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	Newspapers nationwide (USA Today, for example) actually took down their articles based on the Bangor Daily News article (recently cited as a source of allegations), when on May 14th the temporary order was dismissed and withdrawn in the Belfast, Maine, court. The State Police never interviewed Cornell du Houx; their investigation ended on the afternoon of May 11, 2012, as reported on by the Portland Press Herald (not cited in recent unbalanced changes). Rep. Cornell du Houx has no record of any wrongdoing in any court anywhere in America or elsewhere. That fact has been verified by the U.S Navy for his job. Cornell du Houx's main contribution nationally is his leadership in Operation Free, rallying veterans for climate change with the support of the Department of Defense. Cornell du Houx has been under sustained and often libelous attack by political enemies in a highly charged media environment. (The Sun Journal, for example, had to change their false headline recently.) I am going to undo the unbalanced changes to his Misplaced Pages page, but more detractors keep showing up to try to discredit him here. Who has the time for this? I doubt that this kind of sustained personal and political effort against a public servant is something Misplaced Pages can control. A brief check of the repeated attempts to make hay of allegations where articles written in a media frenzy are used without context makes it clear that this will continue. (Even my Talk edit level 3 template warning has been partially deleted and changed.) I recommend that Alexander Cornell du Houx's page be taken down altogether; he has plenty of media already setting the record straight. There are sources for everything stated by me here on his Talk page. But the encyclopedia is no place to distort a person's record by filling space trading words over allegations in a dismissed Temporary Protection Order that the media would not normally give any space to, as TPOs are one-sided by nature, and almost always given on request. (As a matter of procedure, Erin Herbig, Cornell du Houx' fiancée at the time, never bothered to call the police.) Anyway, Misplaced Pages is no place for tabloid politics. (If Alex's detractors used their real names here, it would provide further evidence.) ] (]) 17:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)		Newspapers nationwide (USA Today, for example) actually took down their articles based on the Bangor Daily News article (recently cited as a source of allegations), when on May 14th the temporary order was dismissed and withdrawn in the Belfast, Maine, court. The State Police never interviewed Cornell du Houx; their investigation ended on the afternoon of May 11, 2012, as reported on by the Portland Press Herald (not cited in recent unbalanced changes). Rep. Cornell du Houx has no record of any wrongdoing in any court anywhere in America or elsewhere. That fact has been verified by the U.S Navy for his job. Cornell du Houx's main contribution nationally is his leadership in Operation Free, rallying veterans for climate change with the support of the Department of Defense. Cornell du Houx has been under sustained and often libelous attack by political enemies in a highly charged media environment. (The Sun Journal, for example, had to change their false headline recently.) I am going to undo the unbalanced changes to his Misplaced Pages page, but more detractors keep showing up to try to discredit him here. Who has the time for this? I doubt that this kind of sustained personal and political effort against a public servant is something Misplaced Pages can control. A brief check of the repeated attempts to make hay of allegations where articles written in a media frenzy are used without context makes it clear that this will continue. (Even my Talk edit level 3 template warning has been partially deleted and changed.) I recommend that Alexander Cornell du Houx's page be taken down altogether; he has plenty of media already setting the record straight. There are sources for everything stated by me here on his Talk page. But the encyclopedia is no place to distort a person's record by filling space trading words over allegations in a dismissed Temporary Protection Order that the media would not normally give any space to, as TPOs are one-sided by nature, and almost always given on request. (As a matter of procedure, Erin Herbig, Cornell du Houx' fiancée at the time, never bothered to call the police.) Anyway, Misplaced Pages is no place for tabloid politics. (If Alex's detractors used their real names here, it would provide further evidence.) ] (]) 17:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

			So you are not denying the COI? Please do not delete sourced material. As the father of the article's subject, you are not exactly neutral. The articles on the Bangor Daily News and other Maine daily papers remain up and syndicated via AP. You have a major conflict of interest on this page. Just because you do not agree with the content, doesn't mean the page should be deleted. Ostensibly, when you posted material from his website (against wikipedia's guidelines for neutrality) you did not want it deleted. ] (]) 20:33, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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Stalking Charges

Just returning to Misplaced Pages, but noticed that the same person keeps removing the section on stalking charges from this entry (using BLP), even though these entries cite public news articles. I revised to cite two articles and made it a little shorter than the original, but think this is important to leave in. It's largely why his name is known nationally. Rainbowsprinkles (talk) 03:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Stalking Charges Unfounded Allegations

Recent changes have been reverted, again. Please see: "Removing all or significant parts of a page's content without any reason" http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Vandalism#Warnings Paul Cornell du Houx (talk) 06:17, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

My reasoning for editing was to fix the flow of the article and match more of the biographical pages on wiki/make it neutral. IMHO copying and pasting from the candidates website isn't very neutral. Further, I cited newspaper articles, often paraphrasing or quoting directly from public sources. It is not vandalism - I did cite the charges as alleged and that the order was removed. Further, I think we may have a COI issue here ... Rainbowsprinkles (talk) 14:40, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

As a way forward - I'm happy to paraphrase the current content, but don't think it makes sense the way it is now (without delineating markers). As for the last section that you deleted, I can put in actual quotations from the articles if that is more acceptable. Again, these are publicly sourced articles available via AP and online outlets. I do think there's some language we can negotiate to make this more neutral. Rainbowsprinkles (talk) 14:51, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Major problems with this article

Misplaced Pages has rules which are being broken right and left in this article: please see WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NEUTRAL. Please rework this article to comply with Misplaced Pages's standards else it will be either reduced substantially or else proposed for deletion, thank you.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

It's an unsourced BLP - I've stubbed it. --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:44, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Recommending removal of Alex Cornell du Houx's Misplaced Pages page.

Newspapers nationwide (USA Today, for example) actually took down their articles based on the Bangor Daily News article (recently cited as a source of allegations), when on May 14th the temporary order was dismissed and withdrawn in the Belfast, Maine, court. The State Police never interviewed Cornell du Houx; their investigation ended on the afternoon of May 11, 2012, as reported on by the Portland Press Herald (not cited in recent unbalanced changes). Rep. Cornell du Houx has no record of any wrongdoing in any court anywhere in America or elsewhere. That fact has been verified by the U.S Navy for his job. Cornell du Houx's main contribution nationally is his leadership in Operation Free, rallying veterans for climate change with the support of the Department of Defense. Cornell du Houx has been under sustained and often libelous attack by political enemies in a highly charged media environment. (The Sun Journal, for example, had to change their false headline recently.) I am going to undo the unbalanced changes to his Misplaced Pages page, but more detractors keep showing up to try to discredit him here. Who has the time for this? I doubt that this kind of sustained personal and political effort against a public servant is something Misplaced Pages can control. A brief check of the repeated attempts to make hay of allegations where articles written in a media frenzy are used without context makes it clear that this will continue. (Even my Talk edit level 3 template warning has been partially deleted and changed.) I recommend that Alexander Cornell du Houx's page be taken down altogether; he has plenty of media already setting the record straight. There are sources for everything stated by me here on his Talk page. But the encyclopedia is no place to distort a person's record by filling space trading words over allegations in a dismissed Temporary Protection Order that the media would not normally give any space to, as TPOs are one-sided by nature, and almost always given on request. (As a matter of procedure, Erin Herbig, Cornell du Houx' fiancée at the time, never bothered to call the police.) Anyway, Misplaced Pages is no place for tabloid politics. (If Alex's detractors used their real names here, it would provide further evidence.) Paul Cornell du Houx (talk) 17:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

So you are not denying the COI? Please do not delete sourced material. As the father of the article's subject, you are not exactly neutral. The articles on the Bangor Daily News and other Maine daily papers remain up and syndicated via AP. You have a major conflict of interest on this page. Just because you do not agree with the content, doesn't mean the page should be deleted. Ostensibly, when you posted material from his website (against wikipedia's guidelines for neutrality) you did not want it deleted. Rainbowsprinkles (talk) 20:33, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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