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OK, then, what exactly did you mean when you said ''"I've only been banned for diacritics for a few weeks & already WP:HOCKEY is slipping"''? A reasonable person, I believe, would be justified in concluding that your juxtaposing these two things constituted a reference to the guideline in WP:HOCKEY about avoiding diacritics in players' names. And you were banned by ArbCom, not only from making any edits involving diacritics, but also from "participating in any discussions about the same, '''''anywhere on the English Misplaced Pages'''''" (emphasis mine). "Anywhere on Misplaced Pages" includes talk pages. And any comment, even on your own talk page, which '''''directly or indirectly''''' deals with diacritics is (as Resolute pointed out) not a wise thing for you to be doing now (or, perhaps, ever again). You do have many valuable skills, but in order for us to benefit from your abilities here, you are going to need to let go '''''entirely''''' of this one particular thing, and not even get '''''close''''' to it anymore, or even make people '''''think''''' that you're trying to get close to it again. 23:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC) | OK, then, what exactly did you mean when you said ''"I've only been banned for diacritics for a few weeks & already WP:HOCKEY is slipping"''? A reasonable person, I believe, would be justified in concluding that your juxtaposing these two things constituted a reference to the guideline in WP:HOCKEY about avoiding diacritics in players' names. And you were banned by ArbCom, not only from making any edits involving diacritics, but also from "participating in any discussions about the same, '''''anywhere on the English Misplaced Pages'''''" (emphasis mine). "Anywhere on Misplaced Pages" includes talk pages. And any comment, even on your own talk page, which '''''directly or indirectly''''' deals with diacritics is (as Resolute pointed out) not a wise thing for you to be doing now (or, perhaps, ever again). You do have many valuable skills, but in order for us to benefit from your abilities here, you are going to need to let go '''''entirely''''' of this one particular thing, and not even get '''''close''''' to it anymore, or even make people '''''think''''' that you're trying to get close to it again. 23:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
:I '''was not''' banned from mentioning diacritics on my own talkpage. Also, if somebody added diacritics to my User page, talkpage, sandbox or secondary page, I would remove them without hestitation. If I had contacted ]? you'd have a case, but I didn't. ] (]) 00:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC) | :I '''was not''' banned from mentioning diacritics on my own talkpage. Also, if somebody added diacritics to my User page, talkpage, sandbox or secondary page, I would remove them without hestitation. If I had contacted ]? you'd have a case, but I didn't. ] (]) 00:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Yes you were. ''"GoodDay is indefinitely prohibited from making any edits concerning diacritics, '''or participating in any discussions about the same, anywhere on the English Misplaced Pages.'''"'' - Your user pages are part of the English Misplaced Pages. ]] 00:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC) |
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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).
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"Quebec exemption" on hockey articles
Per User:Resolute's post at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay/Workshop and your post at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey (May 5th), where you mention that there is an exemption for LNAH & QMJHL articles, I hope that it would not cause a conflict if I edited pages like Baie-Comeau Drakkar and others. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 03:38, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- It's not certain that there is an exemption. I'd recommend that you leave the hockey articles to the hockey editors, less it be seen as an attempt to cause disruption. GoodDay (talk) 03:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Except those particular articles aren't just wikiproject hockey articles, they're also wikiproject Quebec articles. So it's not just an "internal" matter for the hockey project, there's overlapping project scope and the established practices of the other project should be considered. Maybe right this moment isn't the best time, but I'll look into the history of the discussions at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey and maybe start a dialog with people there at some point. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Would you wait until the Arbcom case is done? Your bringing it up at WP:HOCKEY, while the case is opened, wouldn't look good. Remember, we've a (recent) history of disagreeing on diacritics. GoodDay (talk) 04:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sure, I would wait. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:52, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Cool. GoodDay (talk) 04:53, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sure, I would wait. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:52, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Would you wait until the Arbcom case is done? Your bringing it up at WP:HOCKEY, while the case is opened, wouldn't look good. Remember, we've a (recent) history of disagreeing on diacritics. GoodDay (talk) 04:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- It is certain there is one. A discussion was had a few months ago about it. It is listed on the main page of WP:HOCKEY. "All North American hockey pages should have player names without diacritics, except where their use is likewise customary (specifically, in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League and the Ligue Nord-Américaine de Hockey)." -DJSasso (talk) 11:30, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Except those particular articles aren't just wikiproject hockey articles, they're also wikiproject Quebec articles. So it's not just an "internal" matter for the hockey project, there's overlapping project scope and the established practices of the other project should be considered. Maybe right this moment isn't the best time, but I'll look into the history of the discussions at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey and maybe start a dialog with people there at some point. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- BTW PT, Djsasso favours diacritics. GoodDay (talk) 13:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Discussion closed
Please note that I have closed the discussion on the evidence talk page as unhelpful and distracting. Please do not use the arbitration case to continue your personal disputes. Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 20:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Acknowledge & in agreement. GoodDay (talk) 20:10, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Endashes, hyphens, and HTML markup
Hi GoodDay. I notice that you have been replacing hyphens with the HTML markup '–
' instead of the actual character '–' (, , , ). I understand that this practice is suboptimal, because wherever possible editors should use the actual character (which can be inserted into the editbox using Misplaced Pages's special characters menu, if your keyboard only supports the typing of hyphens). Don't you think it would be more helpful to insert the proper character in your edits, rather than replacing one suboptimal character with another? I have been told by a knowledgeable editor that two gadgets exist to replace hyphens with a proper en-dash, which you may want to install and use instead:
Regards, AGK 09:28, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'll look into it. But, if it's too much hassle, I'll gnome something else. GoodDay (talk) 10:12, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've looked at both pages & neither make sense to me. Therefore, I'll have to drop changing endashes, hyphens & html markups. GoodDay (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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- I'm not certain, as to how to transfer it to 'My Stuff' page. GoodDay (talk) 10:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Done Daicaregos (talk) 16:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, Dai :) GoodDay (talk) 19:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Congrats GoodDay - fabulous - all those thousands of little edits make the project a better place. Youreallycan 15:17, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was a gnome for years, but just didn't know it. Oddly enough, my 2 topic bans have been beneficial to me. GoodDay (talk) 15:19, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yes - congrats on the arbitration result as well - you are better off out of those diacritics is just a silly wiki nonsense - I noticed the arbs gave you kudos for you contributions and lack of block history - Kudos to you from me as well dude.Youreallycan 15:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks YRC. As for the 2 areas I've been barred from, the project will eventually balance itself out & get back on track. GoodDay (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yes - congrats on the arbitration result as well - you are better off out of those diacritics is just a silly wiki nonsense - I noticed the arbs gave you kudos for you contributions and lack of block history - Kudos to you from me as well dude.Youreallycan 15:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was a gnome for years, but just didn't know it. Oddly enough, my 2 topic bans have been beneficial to me. GoodDay (talk) 15:19, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Congrats GoodDay - fabulous - all those thousands of little edits make the project a better place. Youreallycan 15:17, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, Dai :) GoodDay (talk) 19:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay closed
An arbitration case regarding User:GoodDay has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
- GoodDay is indefinitely prohibited from making any edits concerning diacritics, or participating in any discussions about the same, anywhere on the English Misplaced Pages. This includes converting any diacritical mark to its basic glyph on any article or other page, broadly construed, and any edit that adds an unaccented variation of a name or other word as an alternate form to one with diacritics.
- GoodDay is strongly warned that, in the event of additional violations of Misplaced Pages's conduct policies (especially of the nature recorded in this decision as findings of fact), substantial sanctions, up to a ban from the project, may be imposed without further warning by the Arbitration Committee.
For the Arbitration Committee, Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 08:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Acknowledged. GoodDay (talk) 10:16, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- They need someone to "pick on", I am sorry it was you. "C'est La Vie" ... Take care eh, the Un-Named One. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.69.160.130 (talk) 22:40, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Some baklava for you!
Hello GoodDay I appreciate your edits and corrections on the House of Saud-related articles all the day. So, thank you for your good work. Egeymi (talk) 14:38, 17 June 2012 (UTC) |
No prob. GoodDay (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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- I've reviewed & it's accurate. GoodDay (talk) 00:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Links to common geographical entities
Please note that the style guides say not to do this. I see that you're linking "United States" and "Japan", and wonder what the justification is.
If you have questions about this, please ask me. Tony (talk) 08:00, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Jeepers, I thought by gnoming, I'd be left alone. GoodDay (talk) 10:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've looked through a couple of pages of your contribs, and you really do impressive gnoming work. Thank you indeed! But please, all I propose is that you don't link a country-name or a "people/nationality" term unless it's likely to be unknown to most English-speakers. It's a hard line to draw sometimes, I admit, which is why we need editorial judgement. Somalia, Somali, well I'd appreciate a link there; but not Australians or Americans or French, etc. This issue was resolved some time ago, and linking the common ones is going in the opposite direction of many editors' work. Tony (talk) 11:54, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Cool. GoodDay (talk) 18:17, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've looked through a couple of pages of your contribs, and you really do impressive gnoming work. Thank you indeed! But please, all I propose is that you don't link a country-name or a "people/nationality" term unless it's likely to be unknown to most English-speakers. It's a hard line to draw sometimes, I admit, which is why we need editorial judgement. Somalia, Somali, well I'd appreciate a link there; but not Australians or Americans or French, etc. This issue was resolved some time ago, and linking the common ones is going in the opposite direction of many editors' work. Tony (talk) 11:54, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
WP:HOCKEY
I've only been banned for diacritics for a few weeks & already WP:HOCKEY is slipping at articles like Nashville Predators & Los Angeles Kings :( GoodDay (talk) 19:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. GoodDay (talk) 20:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- This activity appears to constitute a breach of GoodDay's topic ban regarding diacritics. I will be reporting this at WP:AE. — Richwales 21:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- A bit draconian on your part, but go ahead. GoodDay (talk) 21:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- This activity appears to constitute a breach of GoodDay's topic ban regarding diacritics. I will be reporting this at WP:AE. — Richwales 21:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. GoodDay (talk) 20:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Draconian's one word for it, personally I'd go for "pathetic". — JonC 21:17, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- I merely made a statement about WP:HOCKEY & whammo. GoodDay (talk) 21:27, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Some people have too much time on their hands. — JonC 21:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Reckon, I just gotta sit & wait. GoodDay (talk) 21:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you can add your rebuttal here: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#GoodDay, but dude. Topic banned means topic banned. If you're looking for things to gnome about, I can give you some suggestions, but you need to simply forget the issue of diacritics entirely or you're going to fall on your sword fast. Resolute 23:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'd rather be perma-banned, then accept censurship from my own talkpage. For 'bleep' sakes, I made a statement about WP:HOCKEY 'here' & nothing more. GoodDay (talk) 23:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you can add your rebuttal here: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#GoodDay, but dude. Topic banned means topic banned. If you're looking for things to gnome about, I can give you some suggestions, but you need to simply forget the issue of diacritics entirely or you're going to fall on your sword fast. Resolute 23:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Reckon, I just gotta sit & wait. GoodDay (talk) 21:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Some people have too much time on their hands. — JonC 21:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
OK, then, what exactly did you mean when you said "I've only been banned for diacritics for a few weeks & already WP:HOCKEY is slipping"? A reasonable person, I believe, would be justified in concluding that your juxtaposing these two things constituted a reference to the guideline in WP:HOCKEY about avoiding diacritics in players' names. And you were banned by ArbCom, not only from making any edits involving diacritics, but also from "participating in any discussions about the same, anywhere on the English Misplaced Pages" (emphasis mine). "Anywhere on Misplaced Pages" includes talk pages. And any comment, even on your own talk page, which directly or indirectly deals with diacritics is (as Resolute pointed out) not a wise thing for you to be doing now (or, perhaps, ever again). You do have many valuable skills, but in order for us to benefit from your abilities here, you are going to need to let go entirely of this one particular thing, and not even get close to it anymore, or even make people think that you're trying to get close to it again. 23:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- I was not banned from mentioning diacritics on my own talkpage. Also, if somebody added diacritics to my User page, talkpage, sandbox or secondary page, I would remove them without hestitation. If I had contacted HandsomeFella? you'd have a case, but I didn't. GoodDay (talk) 00:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yes you were. "GoodDay is indefinitely prohibited from making any edits concerning diacritics, or participating in any discussions about the same, anywhere on the English Misplaced Pages." - Your user pages are part of the English Misplaced Pages. Resolute 00:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC)