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== Rollback ==

I just read the entire ] guideline and nowhere does it state that "Rollback requires a thorough understanding of ], ] and to some extent ]". The only reasons it gives are:
*"A persistent failure to explain reverts, regardless of the means used", and
*"Editors who edit war may lose the privilege regardless of the means used to edit war".

I am very disappointed with this considering I didn't break either rules. If worried about me havving rollback priveledges, then you should have but me on probation (or something similar), but removing it like ''that'' without any valid reasons is pretty ridiculous. Anyways, I'm hoping this will be amongst my last edits here on WIki. As Status pointed out, an editor once wrote that Misplaced Pages "is home to a community that belittles and harasses its own members for the most idiotic and childish reasons", and TBH, I really couldn't agree more right now. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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ugnazi

Thanks for locking it, but an edit I made regarding the additional attack on Wounded Warriors was not included in the current version. If you click the links in my edit, you'll see that it was completely true and not vandalism. Thanks. --108.2.117.37 (talk) 22:27, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Please

I saw from the past situations that you are neutral, direct, and familiar with ARBMAC. Therefor i am asking for your comment or reaction. For any possible question, proposition or solution, i am here, as i was before. If you doubt anything, ask. --WhiteWriter 21:25, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Commented on ANI - forgot to note it here. Toddst1 (talk) 16:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Nico Kroeker

Good Day! I was just wondering why you deleted Nico Kroeker as a blatant hoax? Many eyes scanned the article and as far as I am aware, this is the first that I've heard that it was a hoax... so was it blatant? Also, there was evidently an ongoing deletion discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Nico_kroeker. Although regardless, consensus appeared to be to delete anyhow. I was just merely curious about the hoax thing because it would mean I missed something - which bothers me! Cheers!!!    Thorncrag  21:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing that to my attention. It was clearly an error on my part. I followed a vandalism report and ended up making a bad block and a bad deletion. I fixed both.Toddst1 (talk) 21:32, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Have a beer and chillax, the cavalry has arrived. I know your pain with regards to this kind of article. Basalisk berate 15:59, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Mmm... Beer.. (hic) Toddst1 (talk) 16:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Cimmorelli Across Multiple Languages

Thank you for your help with the non-notable Cimorelli's. I'm not sure what to do about it, but it looks like they have created articles about themselves on six foreign-language Misplaced Pages sites. I known that for copyright violations, images can be deleted across Wikimedia. I'm not sure if they is away to delete this band across all Misplaced Pages languages. NJ Wine (talk) 16:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Cimorelli on German Misplaced Pages
Cimorelli on French Misplaced Pages
Cimorelli on Spanish Misplaced Pages
Cimorelli on Finnish Misplaced Pages
Cimorelli on Dutch Misplaced Pages
Cimorelli on Turkish Misplaced Pages
Groan. I have no idea how to handle this. What a mess! Toddst1 (talk) 16:47, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I'm Cimorelli's mom, and I must say I was a bit shocked to read this from you, "I have a theory that most of this pablum is placed by this group's mother who is their agent/PR and her buddies." Ouch! I did not start nor ever contribute to this page nor any other Wiki pages, nor do I have any idea who started the Cimorelli page nor any of the foreign language pages. Also, I am not their agent nor their PR person; they are signed with CAA and Universal Island Records (you can find them on the Artist page on Island Records' website). I read the guidelines on musicians being eligible for inclusion here, and one of the qualifications was that they have a song or album that has charted. The CimFam EP, released in Dec 2011, charted internationally in the Top 25 on itunes, and went as high as #6 on the US itunes pop chart and #5 on the Canadian itunes pop chart. It also charted in the Top 20 in places such as Germany, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Australia, Mexico, France, and Belgium, among others. Cimorelli has been on Billboard's Social 50 chart for 30 weeks; this week they are at #16 (2 weeks ago they were #9). They were featured in an article in Billboard Magazine on May 18, 2012, titled, "Ryan Seacrest's Bieber-Off Helps Cimorelli Make Social 50 Chart Gain". Cimorelli is also the most subscribed girl group on youtube right now, with almost 700,000 subscribers. Whatever you guys decide on whether to keep the article or not is obviously up to you, but I did want to clear that up and cite a few things that I think take them out of the "non-notable" category and place them at least slightly above "garage band status". We use Misplaced Pages all the time in looking up producers and writers that we are asked to work with, and we hope that their pages are accurate, and if our page does stay that it will be accurate, too, and without extraneous hype. Thanks for your time. LynCim (talk)LynCim —Preceding undated comment added 04:08, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:LynCim. Toddst1 (talk) 01:57, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
For the record, echanged email with Lyn. All is good. Toddst1 (talk) 12:56, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

User talk:208.118.126.19

Hi, I missed that this as a Webster Academy address. How did you deduce this, please? TerriersFan (talk) 22:10, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

It's clearly a school by that IP's vandalism patterns (literature, historical figures, etc. during school hours). Bigpipe is used by a lot of western Canadian schools as well. It's not much of a leap to deduce that since 2/3 of that ip's edits are to Webber Academy and it geolocates to that area, that it belongs to that school. Toddst1 (talk) 22:19, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! TerriersFan (talk) 22:23, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 Looks like a duck to me. Toddst1 (talk) 00:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

edit war policy

I saw ur mssg on Anupam (talk · contribs)s talk page and was inquisitive check why you posted that message. I find myself in a position where my edits are being reverted continuously without any discussions. How should this be managed ? -Ambar (talk) 14:56, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

See WP:EW. Toddst1 (talk) 18:18, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Don't know if you happen to be watching my talk or not. Statυs (talk) 19:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Chipmunkdavis

Can you please revert Chipmunkdavis on List of heads of state of Eritrea back to the proper title "President of State" as opposed to just "President". This issue has been discussed between me and him countless times, he's freely admitted there are sources showing "President of State" is the proper title, and the only reason he keeps removing it is because he thinks it will "confuse readers", but he's never sufficiently explained how it would confuse anyone. He has removed the title dozens of times for months and months without proper explanation, and it has to stop. Per his own free admission, it's sourced, and it should be used on the article. Fry1989 21:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I am still waiting for a reply. Fry1989 20:47, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
No. Toddst1 (talk) 20:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Courtesy notification

I think you have already noticed it, an IP has started a thread at ANI. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Personal Attacks from user:Toddst1 -- Dianna (talk) 19:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I've just seen the above, I was amused. Just a quick question, if you don't mind! At WP:AFD, how many 'Keeps' would you say are needed to call a WP:SNOW, I'm assuming it varies from time to time depending on the keeps and deletes, but on average? --Chip123456 (talk) 19:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

It's hard to say. There's a good writeup at an ulikeley place: Misplaced Pages:Speedy keep. Is there something you'd like an uninvolved perspective on? Toddst1 (talk) 19:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
To the former, I will take a look at it, thanks! To the latter, no thanks, I was just wondering as I'm trying to get more involved in the process. I have made a few NAC's. If you don't mind, for future purposes, if I need another set of eyes or if I'm unsure, can I come and drop a line?--Chip123456 (talk) 19:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Sure. I'm not promising to have any insight there though. I close so few. Toddst1 (talk) 19:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Are you more involved in speedy deletion?? Your admin deletion stats for deletion are quite high! --Chip123456 (talk) 20:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I've done quite a few. These days I'm usually busy blocking vandals and trolls. Toddst1 (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, probably right. When I'm looking to RB edits, there does seem to be a lot of them about. We are training, actually over at WP:CVUA users to become aware of this to 'crack down' on them. --Chip123456 (talk) 20:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Talk page abuse

Hello.

You may wish to consider disabling talk page access for User talk:94.4.117.83 due to blatant talk page abuse. Thank you. 69.155.141.125 (talk) 20:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Indef full protection?

On Cimorelli, indefinite full protection seems like overkill even against BLP violations. Any chance you could switch it down to a few months (say), and then reapply it if it remains problematic? Indefinite full protection seems very much against the spirit of anyone can edit. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Concur perhaps indefinite semi-protection instead? ♥ Solarra ♥ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 00:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Sure. I've lowered it to semi. That article has been a bit of a cesspool for quite a while and I was shocked to see an established user, Archangel (talk · contribs) (re-)adding unsourced dates of birth about minors. Protection beats handing out blocks any day. Toddst1 (talk) 01:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Todd, that was Anarchangel (talk · contribs) rather than Archangel. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Apologies to Archangel. Thanks Ed. Apologies for my dylsexia. Toddst1 (talk) 04:40, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thanks for keeping a weather eye on 2012 Quebec student protests. I am also keeping it on my watch, so hopefully between us we can keep that fire at a kindle. Tgeairn (talk) 06:24, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Riyas202

User's Bio keeps being removed. Stated reasons for removal are a far reach from User page Guidelines of what is not allowed. Content is within norms for Bio info on a User page. Request independent look by respected non involved admin. Also any comments on civility welcomed. 46.249.56.24 (talk) 02:11, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I haven't weighed in on this. Toddst1 (talk) 03:32, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
I shouldn't have implied that you did.-Jasper Deng (talk) 03:48, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Just for the record...

I thought this was a nice touch of class. Hope it all turned out alright. Basalisk berate 13:56, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Bishonen | talk 14:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC).
Thanks. Lyn and I exchanged email. I think it's cool. Toddst1 (talk) 15:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

IP block

Hi Toddst1,

Through a discussion with another editor, I noticed an 178.128.156.85 (talk · contribs · info · WHOIS) had blatantly vandalised Tito Vilanova. You recently blocked the IP for a period of 2 weeks, due to vandalism. However, it may be worth noting that the IP also vandalised their own talk page by selective re-wording the templates with foul language (as shown in this diff). With that in mind, I'm wondering if their talk page access should also be revoked, or the block increased to indef, as it is clear that the IP has only used the IP for vandalistic purposes, and going off the foul language, shows no intentions of changing their ways once the block expires. Regards, WesleyMouse 18:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

We don't indef IPs (whether we should or not is an interesting discussion). As it is, the two-week block for the first block is pretty hefty. It doesn't seem like the IP vandalized his/her talk page after the block, so removing talk page access would not be appropriate. If that happens, please let me or another admin know. Toddst1 (talk) 18:14, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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Another Statυs (talk) 18:23, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Mark A Wallace

Thanks for your work on Mark A Wallace, the hospital executive. Since there are several articles on people named Mark Wallace, I am considering moving the existing Mark Wallace page to Mark Wallace (business executive) or [[Mark Wallace (lawyer) or Mark Wallace (diplomat), and creating a disambiguation page at Mark Wallace which would include

On the other hand, perhaps Mark Wallace should remain the lawyer/diplomat/business executive and the disambiguation page should be created at Mark Wallace (disambiguation). Your advice would be welcome; if you wish to create the disambiguation page yourself, please go ahead. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 02:06, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I think the DAB page would be appropriate. My €0.02 worth. Toddst1 (talk) 02:23, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

LANA DEL REY FORD MODEL

I wasn't aware of that rule. But how are we supposed to mention that she was a Ford model? It goes with her many personalities before she was famous.--MrIndustry (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

You don't until you have a reliable source per WP:BLP. Toddst1 (talk) 20:24, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki spam

Hi, not sure if this is an issue for ANI or anything can really be done about it, but I noticed some peculiar interwiki activity on Avril Lavigne - page history shows bots adding mass amounts of iwlinks for very obscure language wikis, so I investigated and found all articles were created by the same user, Vitor Mazuco (talk · contribs), and all have exactly the same content: Avril Lavigne is a Canadian singer-songwriter. (with a ref to AllMusic) - in English! The edit summary on creating the articles was "please help me with translation!" Example page history So I know that enwiki has basically no administrative power over other wikis, so I guess there is really nothing for us to do but put up with the spam now and watch them be slowly deleted over the next weeks? Or should I attempt to clean them up myself? Elizium23 (talk) 03:55, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Mark A Wallace Misplaced Pages Page

Every time I make an edit to the Mark A Wallace page it gets deleted. I am using correct and reputable information as well as citing it correctly. Why are my edits being deleted? It is really important that I get his page updated ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revaverma (talkcontribs) 15:44, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Have you read your talk page? Why is it so important that you get a page about him (not his page) updated ASAP? Toddst1 (talk) 16:14, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

World Tomorrow

I'm a bit confused by this edit summary. The link seems to be to the official YouTube channel and therefore not infringing on any copyrights. —Ruud 15:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe you are correct. I've restored it. Toddst1 (talk) 18:30, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Can you do me a favor?

For some reason, nobody is getting what I am talking about. Run the World should not be redirecting to Run the World (Girls), as there is now an article with the exact song title Run the World (song). Run the World (song) should be moved to Run the World. Can you please do this for me? Statυs (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like Run the World should be a WP:DAB page that has links to both Girls and songs. Toddst1 (talk) 20:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Personal attack

With all the respect Toddst, I don't think my comments on User talk:Calvin999 were personal attacks. I think there's a big difference between stating my opinion and accusing and editor of doing something. Till I Go Home 02:25, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Hypnotherapy in childbirth

An article that you have been involved in editing, Hypnotherapy in childbirth , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Lineslarge (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure you got the right guy? Toddst1 (talk) 15:35, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, not very recent, but you did do a series of cleanup edits around this one Lineslarge (talk) 16:12, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Ha! You are correct - I just didn't look back far enough. I had zero memory of editing that article. Thanks. Toddst1 (talk) 17:55, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

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Till I Go Home 01:47, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I've taken it to WP:AN/EW. Till I Go Home 02:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

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  • You still haven't replied, or addressed the issues at the noticeboard. And after all this, the Heidi Montag article still contains the WP:BLP and WP:WWIN violating content it initially had, so nothing's even changed! And accusing Status and me of engaging in a "tag-team" edit-war is bogus. Plus you and gave us warnings for trying to maintain the article, yet the user who broke the WP:3RR didn't even get a warning from you, let alone a block, and he's off the hook. Sorry but I think this needs to be taken to a resolution noticeboard to address the issue. Till I Go Home 03:27, 1 July 2012 (UTC) I'm kind of over this. Question: if I remove some nonsense content from the article, will it be okay or will I get blocked. Till I Go Home 04:01, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Block reduction mail

Thanks for your mail May 29th in reply to my mail and you asked to reply on your talkpage, it was regarding User:Intoronto1125 for whose block reduction I had mailed you.For ethnics and transparency I have to tell you that ,I had discussed this issue with User:JamesBWatson after I mailed but before you replied to me as I have not personally dealt with the user his reply is this and that made me wait for another month before contacting you.He/She is a major contributor with 34000 edits 76% to them to Articlespace and 653 articles all my request was as per WP:AGF can you unblock him or if you are unwilling reduce the block from indefinite to a more reasonable definite one .Unlike in the past when the user was unblocked quickly this he/she has been blocked for 2 months and believe the user will get it.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:13, 1 July 2012 (U

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Special:Contributions/190.199.81.50

This IP user was Hahc21 not noticing that they had logged out. Now, Hahc21 cannot use their main account. Statυs (talk) 02:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Understanding edit warring

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Calvin999

Please read the discussion at Calvin's talk page, where everyone is objecting to it; that's the discussion in question. Nyttend (talk) 20:30, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Status

I closed this SPI investigation as I figured you already knew more than we did and had it under control and didn't really need more venues open on the subject. Just wanted to let you know it exists. If you want it unclosed, just ask. Dennis Brown - © 22:44, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

No, that's cool. The IP is Hahc (confirmed by email) and I've given him/her the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't up to no good. Thanks for the heads up. Toddst1 (talk) 22:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Rollback

I just read the entire WP:Rollback guideline and nowhere does it state that "Rollback requires a thorough understanding of WP:EW, WP:3RR and to some extent WP:BLP". The only reasons it gives are:

  • "A persistent failure to explain reverts, regardless of the means used", and
  • "Editors who edit war may lose the privilege regardless of the means used to edit war".

I am very disappointed with this considering I didn't break either rules. If worried about me havving rollback priveledges, then you should have but me on probation (or something similar), but removing it like that without any valid reasons is pretty ridiculous. Anyways, I'm hoping this will be amongst my last edits here on WIki. As Status pointed out, an editor once wrote that Misplaced Pages "is home to a community that belittles and harasses its own members for the most idiotic and childish reasons", and TBH, I really couldn't agree more right now. Till I Go Home 03:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)