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PTEN

The Prime Time Entertainment Network was just a blanket title for syndicated programming used by Warner Brothers. It was NOT a full-fledged network, even though several stations who carried PTEN-branded programming (like WWOR) eventually joined UPN in 1995. I have corrected this fact. Rollosmokes 17:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
It was not a "blanket title for sydnicated programming" until CC/United Television pull out. The Federal Trade Commission & Federal Communication Commission does not consider a "TV Network" a TV Network untill it offers 15 hours of prime time(note 14) (7 PM to 11 PM) programming. I remember when the WB and UPN where starting up and that the were not offically considered networks. PTEN was structured the same way MyNetworkTV (MNTV) is now, sydnicated arm (20th Television) together with TV Station company consoritium (Fox Station Group). The Neworks prime time hourly offerings: MNTV 12, the CW 13, Fox 15, ABC 22, CBS 22, NBC 22. I remember reference when UPN and the WB were starting up that they were not offical networks as they were below the specified hours but people considered them networks and as far as I know they never exceed 15 hours of programming. So as it stands you would have to remove MNTV, UPN, WB and CW as networks. But I think that most people would consider them as networks, since that was the intent when they were started as the affiliates got the whole programming. Spshu 19:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Rebuttal -- You are a new user, as you claim, so who are you to give me a "warning" about deleting information? You're not an administrator, so don't act like one. Also, don't act as if you're: 1) trying to prove a point and 2) claiming ownership of any and all articles tied in to PTEN so you can prove your point.

The fact is this: Fox, UPN, WB, and CW were and are NETWORKS, despite programming the minimum required prime-time hours as dictated by the FCC. PTEN was NOT A NETWORK. I'm sticking to that, and we can take this debate to the WikiProject Television Stations group for further debate. Rollosmokes 07:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

September 2007

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to WWOR-TV, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. NeutralHomer 14:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am not a new user. Please stop vandalizing my talk page. Spshu 14:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Neither am I...you are vandalising the WWOR-TV page, hence the warning. - NeutralHomer 14:55, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Removing warning against vandalism on your talk page, NeutralHomer; really rich when you have no clue. That is what Rollosmokes did when originally confronted with warnings against his vandalism of multiple pages while he entreated that the discussion should go to the TV Station project talk page. (Perhaps, you should read above what he had to say about that. And effectively YOU now.) Now the both of you refuse to acknowledge the discussion there that PTEN is a network. Spshu 15:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The next time you vandalise any page with by adding PTEN to it without external (meaning information outside of Misplaced Pages) proof, you will be reported to AIV for vandalism and blocked. Simple as that....curb this behaviour now before it costs you. - NeutralHomer 15:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You will stop this now!! The proof is in the archive TV Station discussion that you refuse to read. Spshu 15:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

That is on Misplaced Pages...I said off Misplaced Pages. But I stand by what I said. - NeutralHomer 15:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

...and your comment still indicate that you have not read the previous discussion as it does link to outside sources. Spshu 15:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

....from the Chris-Craft Industries page here on Misplaced Pages: "In the early 1990's, Chris-Craft Television formed an alternative programming consortium, Prime Time Entertainment Network, with other station groups and Warner Bros. Domestic Television that was planned to expand into the fifth television network but fizzled into a syndication brand."

Also, a quick check of many TV Guide websites for the New York area (WWOR), Chicago area (WPWR) and Philly area (WPHL) show that between '93 and '95 all three of those stations were Independent and make no mention of PTEN. - NeutralHomer 15:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, as an administrator and someone who contributed to the PTEN discussion that PTEN is a network. Rollosmokes reverted my restoration of WWOR-TV PTEN affiliation. Then Neutralhomer attacks me as a vandal and refuses to look at the previous discussion that was archived. Now Neturalhomer is making threats to have me banned for his failure to follow the discussion and proof of PTEN's network status. Spshu 15:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Spshu,

Thanks for your note. I've sent NH the external link, and asked him not to give out vandalism warnings to good-faith contributors like yourself. It's clear from the link that PTEN was trying to launch a network. It is also clear they quickly (within a couple of years) failed. I am confident we can establish some sort of agreement about this on WT:TVS. Do not revert these users until we can come to some agreement. Firsfron of Ronchester 16:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Woolworth at Genesee Valley

Are you sure that Woolworth at Genesee Valley Center was replaced with KB Toys and other stores? Everyone I know says it was cut into smaller stores (possibly the Waldenbooks that you mentioned), and that after those smaller stores left, the former Woolworth was turned into Steve & Barry's. 68.188.191.9 12:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Reasonably sure. As I remember when Woolworth closing and I was walking away from Sears, Woolworth was on my right. That would make it on the West side while Steve and Barry's replaced Waldenbooks and a craft store on the opposite side. Spshu 16:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. I'll look into it. By the way, I'm the same person as 68.188.191.9 above; I keep forgetting to log in. TenPoundHammer 18:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I checked with my aunt. I know this is about a month late, but at least now I have an answer. My aunt used to work at the mall in the 1970s, and she's positive that Woolworth was where Steve & Barry's is now. According to her, Waldenbooks was cut up into Waldenbooks and a craft shop and such before Steve & Barry's took the spot. TenPoundHammer 01:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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MastCell reversed deletion. Yah! Spshu 21:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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KFTY and the sale of Clear Channel stations to Newport

You changed the owner of KFTY from Clear Channel to Newport; however, that information is not correct. The sale of the station (and others) from Clear Channel to Newport has not been approved by the FCC, even though Newport has already applied to sell KFTY to LK. The station should still list Clear Channel as its owner, not Newport. Please be more careful and verify your information before adding it to articles. Thanks. dhett 07:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Given that they were already selling stations from the Clear Channel (with no condition information at Broadcast & Cable's website), the FCC website lacking any meaningful info & the sale of the Bluestone stations, it seem that it is likely the Clear Channel were already or soon to be in Newport's possession. Spshu 14:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation revert

You recently reverted my edit that disambiguated Avengers on Demolition Man (comics). I disambiguated the wikilink again to direct it to the Avengers (comics) page instead of the Avengers disambiguation page. It is far better to be directed to the actual page mentioned than to have to go through a disambiguation page to find the page you are looking for. Aspects (talk) 19:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Avengers

Good work on the content regarding the Avengers. Sorry we've gotten off on the wrong foot as it were, but your work regarding much of that content has been quite good and useful. I wish controversial subjects like certain possible members didn't exist, but it seems that sort of thing is, at least now, unavoidable, given the apparent contradictions to date. If and when the Sourcebook is gotten and it is found to verify or not verify a certain party's membership, I do think that some sort of accomodation of it would be required, maybe using a formula like that I proposed on the talk page in question. That sort of statement, indicating that the official view of given storylines may have been changed since the text was first written, would probably be the clearest way out. I do hope you can understand though that as Hiding has said it isn't really that anyone wants to disagree with you or anyone else, it's just that we think we are bound by honor and the policies of wikipedia to acknowledge what the experts say, in this case a recent editor and writer, whether they agree with what was said earlier or not. John Carter (talk) 15:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Historical Political Party Template

Hey I fixed it for you... there was just no metadata template for the Know Nothing party yet (look at its talk page and you'll see what I'm talking about)... that was the problem.

So if you go look at it now it should be fine.

Thanks for letting me know.

-Prezboy1 talk 21:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Defunct-co. template

Hey, great new template -- an informative idea. It needs some tweaking (image to be centered, non-used lines to disappear until they're filled). Do you know how to do this, or can you point me to template code? Thanks! --Tenebrae (talk) 13:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I have general just use what is available. Have made a few templates but images & hidding lines until used is a bit beyond my skills. Links to templates appear at the bottom of the edit this page. Here is the Template:Infobox_Defunct_company. Spshu (talk) 14:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Halo Burger

Thank you for update and clean up on Halo Burger CFBancroft (talk) 05:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Can you go to Halo Burger on Linden Road because of you live that area and take photo of Plague that said "1983 Voted Flint's #1 hamburger by a Flint Journal Newspaper survey" and upload photo snap here so that way other people will see and believe and remove "citation needed" by the way you did wonderful job! CFBancroft (talk) 10:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I notice that you did update two refer on Halo Burger. Thank YOU! CFBancroft (talk) 12:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Founding year

The founding year for Halo Burger, which they clearly indicate on their logo, is 1923. Period. Steelbeard1 (talk) 18:29, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Logos and self source (ie. Haloburger) material are general not accepted as sources. Spshu (talk) 18:51, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

But the history page of the official web site, which I added as a supporting citation, is acceptable as a source as well as journalistic citations which I added as well. Steelbeard1 (talk) 19:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Any thing from the official website is self source as I just pointed out. Are thusly telling me that this source (Gary Flinn (2004-05-21). "A Tasty Part of Flint History". Flinn's Journal. Gary Flinn. http://home.comcast.net/~steelbeard1/flinn052104.htm. Retrieved 2008-05-30.) is false? Which most of the earlier part is based on and the dates I use in the founded dates. Spshu (talk) 19:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I wrote that. I am Gary Flinn. Quoting from my own text from YOUR link: " In 1951, Vernor’s moved the oak barrels from the site and James Vernor II sold the sandwich shop to Bill Thomas, the manager of Kewpee Hamburgs, a downtown Flint fixture since 1923." That should settle things once and for all.

No it does not. As per your article, Thomas did not open Kewpee's in 1923 and did not own that location until 1944 and was not Haloburger until 1967. All in your article. Each change is noted my version. Your are making a mountain out of a mole hill. In this case, Haloburger didn't come full formed as per your article; it was more evoluationary. I don't understand why in the world you don't understand your own article!!!! Spshu (talk) 21:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Changes in ownership do not change the founding year. The name change in 1967 did not affect the fact that the management and food was exactly the same before and after the name change. The sale to Dortch Enterprises after the piece was written does not affect the founding year either. I reported the edit war on Halo Burger's official Facebook page. Steelbeard1 (talk) 21:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

But Thomas did not own Kewpees at all. He just had the rights to use the name; he was a licensee. Just as you would not consider a local franchisee of McDonald's as actually being McDonalds. Ed Adams of Toledo, Ohio owned Kewpee in 1945, not Thomas. Reporting the edit war on Halo Burger's Facebook page is meaningless and anti-wikipedian. Spshu (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Bill Thomas did own the original Harrison Street restaurant which was founded in 1923 and the burger is still called the QP. Who owns the name is secondary to the restaurant itself. The restaurant is what the article is about, not the restaurant's name. Steelbeard1 (talk) 21:33, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

That restaurant no longer exists. Spshu (talk) 21:51, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

But the business still does. My article stated that the staff moved into the new East Court Street Halo Burger location. Steelbeard1 (talk) 00:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure that business still exist as it is in Ohio called Kewpee. But a new location is not that restaurant which is what you claimed above nor is the staff the restaurant. Spshu (talk) 12:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

The original restaurant was FORCED to move because the building was condemned to make wasy for the University of Michigan--Flint campus development. So the staff was moved to the new east side location. Steelbeard1 (talk) 01:20, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

First you state it is about the "original Harrison Street restaurant" then its is about "But the business still does." That is what I am pointing out. You have no clue. Spshu (talk) 13:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

YOU have no clue. The Kewpee article states: The original Flint location changed its name to Bill Thomas' Halo Burger which is still a thriving business, but not at the original location which was torn down in 1979. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:07, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

No, you don't even respond to the point, I made. You say it isn't the business its the restaurant, then you say its the business. Which is it? Then you attack me as clueless. How rich. With this tantrum, I guess I don't know why I ever support your article as an source. You don't even understand your own source, like I point out at Talk:Halo Burger . Spshu (talk) 13:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm talking about both. Halo Burger was founded in 1923 as Kewpee. Kewpee employee Bill Thomas bought the restuarant in 1944 which changed its name in 1967 and was sold by the Thomas family in 2010. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Right then the restaurant started in 1923, Thomas' business that became Haloburger started in 1944 thus the multiple years in the foundation. But, you come out against the business notion then you switch positions back and forth. Spshu (talk) 13:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Compare this to another restaurant chain which evolved. Big Boy Restaurants was originally Bob's Pantry in 1936 and Big Boy is the name of their flagship hamburger. Even though the restaurant chain was officially renamed Big Boy in 2000, the founding year is still 1936. Steelbeard1 (talk) 14:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

• Hi friend. It looks like you're edit warring over trivia in mainspace on the Halo Burger article. Please take it to the talk page and work out your disagreements with the other editor there. Also, be advised that it is not kosher to raise a posse to win an edit war. There are no fundamental, insolvable issues here — just talk to the dude and work it out, okay? Carrite (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Not sure who you are address, me or Steelbeard1. As he directly tried to "raise a posse to win an edit war." starting with User talk:TenPoundHammer#Halo Burger. Also Rich Farmbrough, GrahamHardy, Denisarona. Spshu (talk) 19:13, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

And reports me to HB's Facebook page. Spshu (talk) 20:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

sourcing

Please do not remove valid references from an article. I don't see any reason why you should have to do so. Ten Pound Hammer • 21:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The information in the info box is including in the body of the article, I found some of the editors I work with don't mind them not be recited in the infobox. Spshu (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The present form is just fine, though. Ten Pound Hammer • 22:09, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Rollosmokes

I'll note it there, but really, as long as he's not requesting unblock again it's not relevant. Daniel Case (talk) 16:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Move of Scouting articles

I undid all of your moves. The naming has been discussed within the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Scouting several times; since there a very little sources for English translations of associations' names, the project decided to keep article titles in the original language until there is real use of the English translation. Please see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Scouting/Article names#Main Points. All German associations use multiple translations in their official documents depending on the translator. --jergen (talk) 16:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Articles in the English language Misplaced Pages must be named in English per Misplaced Pages policy: Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions, so the need is for it to be in English to have an article. I see some of the discussion here. Those article use those names, so if the English language names are a problem they should be remove or all English versions should be added to the article. Secondly, selecting one English translation of the name for the article hopefully the most used translation then setting up redirects for the other translations would work.Spshu (talk) 18:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Jergen is right in this, the name must be official or commonly used. If there are multiple equivalents, then the native name shall be used. We don't call sushi vinegared rice ball wrapped in seaweed with some sort of seafood on top. In cases where the name is not commonly translated into English, the native name stays. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

But sushi has been adopted into the English language same as Squash_(plant), Moccasin (footwear) and many other words. Like I pointed out that no one is challenging the translation directly in the individual articles. In the case of Ring deutscher Pfadfinderverbände, German Scout Federation is on its wikipedia page and is used on |its offical website. Spshu (talk) 18:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

And there is a completly different translation in a more recent official English presentation : "Union of German Boy Scout/Girl Guide Associations". Can you decide which to choose? I can't. The same applies for all moved German associations. As for the Estonian Eesti Skautide Ühing there is no translation on its website, so you used an approximate translation - this is unencyclopedic in my eyes.

And you interpretation of the naming policy is strange. It is clearly stated that articles should use the "more commonly recognized" variant, be it either English or the original language. --jergen (talk) 20:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that my interperation of the naming policy is strange. The policy states:

Generally, article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature.

So, I guess you either use WOSM's naming convention or word for word order might make sense too. Spshu (talk) 17:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Do I understand you correctly saying: WOSM is a reliable source, but the German organization using also a second differing translation itself is not reliable? That is quite strange. --jergen (talk) 17:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

In the Germany Language sentence order of the words are not as important as it is in the English language. Secondly for additional translation can be set up as redirects and indicated in the article. I just saying that using WOSM's translation, as most people might find these to be the most easily recognizable translation for the organizations' name as WOSM is a recognized international organization for WOSM's members. None of the other translations would be discounted they would just be used as redirects and indicated in the article. Spshu (talk) 18:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

"In the Germany Language sentence order of the words are not as important as it is in the English language." - This is utter rubbish (excuse my language). Word order has the same importantance as in English.

I'll stop discussing here. If you want to move associations article come ahead and propose an different approach on Misplaced Pages Talk:WikiProject Scouting. You proposal should not only include members of WOSM, but also cover members of WAGGGS as well as the numerous independent organizations. This is not do delay the discussion but to reach more users and to have more input. --jergen (talk) 07:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect as far as the difference between German language and English language in word order -- see: German_language#Word_order. Spshu (talk) 16:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

That applies only within full sentences but I can't see a verb in Ring deutsche Pfadfinderverbände. --jergen (talk) 07:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Adair Tishler

Using a non-free image in the infobox is a clear policy violation. As to whether a free image is possible, Getty images manages to have taken 16 photos of her at public events without stalking her. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Is Getty Images going to give us a photo for the Article? ...... I think not. Second, part of stalking is trying to figure out were she is going to be and these public events generally (I would assume) don't just hand out guest list. Getty Images is just going to be at all these events regardless and probably have arrangement for robe/carpet side positioning which any joe smoe can not get. Third, using a non-free image in the infobox is not a clear policy violation, see Misplaced Pages:NFCC#3. Since it is already used in her Heroes character article, it is as recommend in 7. "One-article minimum. Non-free content is used in at least one article." reducing the likely hood of problems with additional "non-free content". If non-free images are completely a problem then I started remove images and links to images for logos of TV stations, derivied works from else were like flags, etc. I will send them all your way, deal? Spshu (talk) 19:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Then also why have you remove it from the Molly Walker article? Spshu (talk) 19:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

standard official names of townships are: (Charter) Township of Name

Regarding this edit. Is there some evidence for this? The township doesn't appear to use that form. While I have not seen the township charter for Vienna Township, I have looked at others that were available online, and there are some which do not use that form. That is, there are cases where the official charter creating the charter township does not use that form. So unless there is evidence that that is the official name, I don't think it is safe to assume that there is a "standard" official name. older ≠ wiser 21:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Here Vennia Township uses Charter Township of Vienna. Um, no direct evidence of this standard. It is interesting about the official township charters that you have seen. --Quick lookup-- OK, The Charter Township Act 359 of 1947 supports my statement that it is standard for "charter township of ............................". So the charters that do not use that form fail to follow the Act and have it through the act by default, I would guess or were perhaps done before this section was ammended to included said language. Spshu (talk) 21:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks for that. That's interesting. I'll have to see if I can recall where I came across township charters that were styled differently. older ≠ wiser 22:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Naming conventions

I'm not at all sure you have the correct understanding of wiki naming convention. London is not London, Middlesex or New York is not New York, New York. In my opinion duffield should have been left as it was as it was a) first there in wikipedia, b) larger and c) older. Its likely that your area around a road called Duffield Road is named after Duffield near Derby and its 1000 year old name. Can you check your sources for your policy interpretation. Victuallers (talk) 15:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You are citing exceptions to the naming convention. It has to be a notable city like London or New York (which is at New York City as there is the state). See England naming convention page as city/village/town, ceremonial county is consist the correct naming convention.Spshu (talk) 15:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I did look at the conventions and there is no mention of notability that I can see. It says "Where possible, articles on places in the United Kingdom should go under placename."

If I look at what links to the Duffield page then there are about 50 or so links which as far as I can see all point to Duffield in Derbyshire. There are also 5 or six other article that begin Duffield .... these all concern the place in Derbyshire. I suggest that you or I add a disambiguation page. if there are going to be 2 articles or more If you look at how New York or Sheffield have their pages then there is a disambiguation page. This is a bit over the top as Duffield, Michigan does not yet have an article but I guess you are going to write one. If not then a hat note would be sufficient. Obviously it cannot be left as it is Victuallers (talk) 18:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Where possible, articles on places in the United Kingdom should go under placename. Where disambiguation is needed, a different system exists in each of the home nations.

And the general rule:

The general rule is to name an article about a city or town with a name that does not conflict with any other town or concept as city name. The rest of this naming convention contains guidelines about naming the articles where disambiguation is required or specific national conventions. Articles about cities and towns in some countries should be "pre-disambiguated", by having the article named as if there is a name conflict, even if one is not known at the time of writing the article. In these cases, a redirect should usually be created at the primary name, pointing to the new article, until such time as a disambiguation page is actually required.

Thank you I have left Duffield Derbyshire and created a disambigation page as seen at other UK places where there is a name clash. I have left an explanation at Duffield, Derbyshire talk page .... This page used to be at Duffield but was moved to Duffield, Derbyshire when a disambiguation page was created at Duffield. This broke all the existing wiki links. As a compromise I have created a more complete Duffield Disambiguation page at Duffield (disambiguation) and pointed the empty Duffield article at the Duffield, Derbyshire page. This will repair the existing links Victuallers (talk) 14:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

That just fine. Spshu (talk) 15:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Avengers

Thanks for the note. I dropped a note in at WT:CMC. (Emperor (talk) 05:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC))

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Mediation of D-Man's Membership Status

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Talkback

Steve Crossin 09:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Deford, Michigan

Move to Deford, Michigan talk page.

Dayne Walling

I see that you've restarted the Dayne Walling article, now that he has a stronger claim to notability. If you would like any of the information from the previously deleted version, drop a note on my page and I'll get it for you. --Philosopher  05:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Two editors have removed one infobox from the article Lotharingia, and you have the nerve to add two? Both of which do nothing to clarify a complex subject. You are not helping the encyclopedia. Srnec (talk) 20:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

President pro tempore of the United States Senate

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that your edits to President pro tempore of the United States Senate seem to be causing some error messages with the reference section. I can't figure out what exactly you were trying to do. Cheers! meamemg (talk) 21:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

List of Avengers Members

Hello, I know that you have had some issues, with edits made to the List of Avengers members article in the past. I am writing to remind you, that when there is a dispute, proper etiquette is to discuss it on the talk page, before entering into an edit war. Please refer to the talk page, for the consensus that was made, on the reversion of your edits to this article. Fortdj33 (talk) 13:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:United States federal executive departments#"Federal" or "National"?

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:United States federal executive departments#"Federal" or "National"?. —Markles 17:49, 12 January 2010 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

AfD nomination of New United States Football League

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English Name (was: Federation Internationale de l'Automobile)

Hi. I can see why you might think that this is not the most appropriate name for the article, but in my experience it is far more commonly used in English language sources on this topic than the English translation. A Google search (restricted to English language pages) shows a 6 to 1 ratio in favour of "Federation Internationale de l'Automobile" over "International Automobile Federation" (See this vs this). It rises to 10 to 1 if not restricted to English language.

WP:EN does not, as far as I can see, say that articles must be named in the English language. It does say "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources". There must be some, but I can't think of any reliable sources on motorsport that use the English language version.

Cheers 4u1e (talk) 16:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S. There are several active wikiprojects covering this topic - if you're not convinced by my arguments, the most appropriate one to discuss it at is probably WP:MOTOR. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 16:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Google search are not neccessarily consider valid sources, but you should note that the search on International Automobile Federation brings up the FIA website as the first item. Second, an About.com article about the organization uses International Automobile Federation and the article is by Brad Spurgeon, which is identified by About as a journalist "covering Formula 1 for the International Herald Tribune since 1993, and for The New York Times since 1999." Spshu (talk) 16:51, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

No but google searches are valid indicators of how widely terms are used on the internet, which is one indication of how widespread they are generally. Of course the first google result for International Automobile Federation is the FIA site! What else would it be? That tells us nothing about the relative usage of the terms, though. Perhaps more relevant is the fact the english language term does not appear at all at the official website of the FIA's most famous racing category (Formula One), and only four times at the FIA's own (english language) site. That's not the whole story either of course. As I said, some sources do use IAF, but about.com is hardly the most authoritative source in this respect! There's a lot more that could be said, but I'm out of time for the minute. We can continue the discussion later if you wish. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 18:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

• On a similar topic, I undid your move of FIFA for similar reasons. FIFA is clearly the common name for the organization. Please seek consensus before moving articles. Thank you. --John (talk) 21:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
• You also moved Fédération internationale des associations vexillologiques to the English translation of its name. Not a topic I know anything about, but I was curious about all these moves. Turns out the constitution of the FIAV says (para 1): "The name of this association is the Fédération internationale des associations vexillologiques, which is abbreviated as “FIAV.” The official translations of FIAV's name are: International Federation of Vexillological Associations (English);" etc. Now that's official name, not most common usage, but your edit summary said " Move to its correct and official English name". I suggest you move that one back as well, and I'm afraid I have to agree with John that you should talk to others before making changes like this. Certainly in the case of the FIA and FIFA there are plenty of knowledgeable editors who could have contributed to a discussion. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 08:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

There isn't any need for a discussion. It is following the policy as I pointed out 4ule1 so no "cheers" either you follow policy of the Misplaced Pages or you decide not to contribute any more. The FIAV official was attempting to incorrectly used FIA and FIFA as a reason not to follow to policy of English naming. You have not given an alternative prefered English name for FIA or FIFA. John, you have bother to read common name fully as you will find the Foreign names and anglicization. Spshu (talk) 13:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, you can still find them by their French name as a move sets up a forwarding. Also, the FIAV also has an official English name while FIA and FIFA might under some subsection I over looked do to their longer usage and no official English name, FIAV belongs under its official English name. Spshu (talk) 13:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

By the way, John, the common name section you cite indicates that the name of the article should be in the most common ENGLISH name. Spshu (talk) 14:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Which for the example we were talking about is clearly FIFA. There is absolutely a need to discuss potentially controversial moves like this before making them. --John (talk) 18:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Spshu - 'Cheers', in my own personal usage at least, should be read as 'thanks' or 'Best regards' or whatever the locally acceptable signing off phrase would be. My apologies that it appears to have caused offence. None was intended.

I accept that you are following what you believe to be policy, but you are reading something into the guidance that I simply cannot see there. The Foreign names and anglicization link you provide does not say that names must be in the English language. It does say that spelling should follow English language usage (not the same thing), that Latin transliteration should be used (not relevant here) and that "whether and how to translate a foreign name into English, follow English-language usage". Note that it says "whether". As I've explained above, it happens that for the FIA the French language version is the more common English language usage.

Yes, you can still find the articles by their French language names, but you can now still find them by their English language translations, so that makes no odds.

I think where we're differing is that you are reading "most common English language name" to mean most common translation of the name into the English languge, where I would read it (supported I think by all the hints about how to decide whether to translate or not) as the most common name in use in the English language, which could actually be be in German (Reichstag) , Zulu (vuvuzela) or Narn (Spoo, I think), depending on the topic.

If you're not persuaded, then by all means let's discuss this at the appropriate forum, but the relevant communities must be involved for changes like this where (since two experienced editors disagree with you) your interpretation is not obviously the correct one. Best regards :) 4u1e (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, Spshu. I'd like to ask about this move to Seaboard Periodicals, which, as you note, is the formal name of the company. However, under Misplaced Pages naming conventions, we're supposed to use the subject's common name, and this company is routinely referred to as Atlas/Seaboard. Certainly, a change of this magnitude probably shouldn't have been undertaken without discussion on the talk page, for this very reason. Let's please discuss. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I was hoping to have heard from you, since you were editing at the time I posted the above. According to WP:COMMONNAME, we must title articles with the name by which something is commonly known. This company is best known as Atlas/Seaboard. I point to these three examples, both Web-based and from print journalism by an expert source (Comic Book Artist magazine) which turn up among the first Google hits:

• http://atlaschecklist.50webs.com/Atlas_Seaboard_Comics_Index.html

An Unofficial Atlas/Seaboard Checklist

• http://twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/16rovin.html

"Rise & Fall of Rovin's Empire" A candid conversation with Atlas/Seaboard editor Jeff Rovin Conducted by Jon B. Cooke Transcribed by Jon B. Knutson

• In print: "Vengeance, Incorporated: A history of the short-lived comics publisher, Atlas/Seaboard"

by Jon B. Cooke Comic Book Artist #16

I would also say that a move of this magnitude should not have been taken unilaterally, with no discussion whatsoever. Atlas/Seaboard is unquestionably the common name by which this company is known. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

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Nice add with that subhead — "Culture" is indeed distinct from "History." My compliments. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, my. That was rather an unpleasant note you left on my talk page. And I was entirely sincere in my post above. I'm sure there was another way to say "If you bothered to read my edit" at Marvel Entertainment ... especially since there are two articles for Marvel Entertainment.

Regardless: You seem like a very knowledgeable editor when it comes to piercing corporate veils, and I, for one, wholeheartedly welcome someone with this much-needed expertise. I would ask that we all take a breath and realize that we're all on the same side. We won't always agree — no two editors do — but I respect your work; I came out and said so in a specific instance above, when there was no need for me to. Accept a gesture of good faith. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 22:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Spshu,

Thanks for your note on my talk page. I can take a look at the situation, but I'm not sure what you want me to do here. It looks as if there were uncivil accusations from both sides, but the above comment from Tenebrae looks quite kind, and written by someone willing to work with you to improve the article. I do not see very recent discussions anywhere, which is a problem in this type of dispute. Firsfron of Ronchester 06:28, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

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Cadence

I was being very polite and you jumped down my throat. You are a mean person and you do article owning. You do it to other people and you are doing it here. You never want anyone to edit your work. And may I say that you are not a good writer because you writing is convoluted, it doesn't follow a straight line, it leaves things out and you misuse words. Other editors have trouble with you, too, I can see. --Farpointer (talk) 19:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

If you bother to read your talk page, I point out how you destroy the article and did not improve the article. You were not polite at all and you have attacked me again ("mean person" and "you are not a good writer..."). Others have problems with me because I follow the rules and don't just cave for them. --Spshu (talk) 19:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I have just pointed out spelling, style and guideline errors in my edit summary. Just because you can't have your way doesn't mean another editor "destroyed" an article! Can't you at least fix those basic things I point out in the edit summary? And no, owning, which I see you do a lot, isn't following the rules. It's just the opposite. We're supposed to collaborate. But you have an anger problem. I see you jumped down the throat of someone above who was being nice to you. But don't worry about me. I'm staying far away from you.

Just please try to understand that not every word you write is perfect! "loaned $5 million into"? What kind of English usage is that? It's "loaned to" not "loaned into". I know you don't believe it, but there is a lot of bad writing in there just like that. I'm sorry you don't see it. --Farpointer (talk) 20:36, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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Actually, placing something on her (her?) talk page is how things should go, via discussion. I'll go take a look.

Actually, too, I've been painstakingly going through things point by point at the Cadence Industries RfC I called in the hope of you two finding middle ground, and most, not all, but most of her points seem correct. I haven't gotten down to her Pocket Books inclusion yet on the point-by-points, though a cursory glance there mentions Curtis Books. That may well be unrelated to Curtis Magazines and Curtis Circulation; "Curtis" is a common name. In the meantime, why not take a look at the point-by-point and comment (briefly, I would ask, like the comments that are there now), --Tenebrae (talk) 18:30, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm very encouraged by the Cadence Industries RfC so far, and I appreciate your efforts there. As I continue to say, I sincerely believe your familiarity with and knowledge of corporate structure and history makes you a valuable contributor, IMHO. Being able to work with other people is very important as well.

I have just left a note asking User:Farpointer, who has so far stayed away from the discussion, to join it, and I say there that both of you are people of good will and I believe that a better article will come out of both of you working together than either of you working alone. As a journalist, I know I'm always better with a good editor or even copy editor — just another set of eyes to look at something from a fresh perspective. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:53, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Spshu. I've left a note at Farpointer's talk page, urging her to join the discussion at Cadence. Haven't heard anything after a day or two. Maybe if you leave her a neutral, cordial note, it'll help, if she's gotten spooked? It's just a suggestion; I honestly believe the article will be better if the two of you help edit each other. Also: What do you think of the two compromise sentences I've constructed so far? --Tenebrae (talk) 05:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi again, Spshu. Farpointer came to Talk:Cadence Industries, and since everyone seems to agree on the Pocket Books paragraph being wrong, I've gone ahead and taken it out. I've also added the Cadence logo and the Perfect Film & Chemical logo, since those seemed like non-controversial edits. You and I seem to be collaborating well together, and I'm glad of that. What do you think of the points and compromise sentences I've suggested at Talk:Cadence Industries? With genuine regard, --Tenebrae (talk) 23:54, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Except for the fact that the Cadence logo is for the current company with that name in the distribution and assembly of telecom equipment founded in 2007. Not sure how we hand that when the current company's only claim to fame is having the same name as a previously existing company. Spshu (talk) 13:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Wow, great catch. Geez, I feel like a dummy -- I'd gotten that logo from the Comics Alliance article that was footnoted, and didn't check to make sure the Comics Alliance writer knew what he was talking about. I'll take it down immediately. Now this is what I'm talking about — I'm really enjoying this collaboration, and I appreciate your knowledge of corporations. On it! --Tenebrae (talk) 13:31, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Red Circle / Timely

Hi. I'm not sure this is precisely correct. International Catalogue, which makes that statement, says its taking its information from Nevins. But Nevins is referring to Timely Publications, the overall pulp and comics publisher, and not the Timely Comics imprint: "Timely Publications (as Goodman's group had become known; before this it was known as "Red Circle" because of the logo that Goodman had put on his pulp magazines)." And Bellman refers to "a multitude of corporate entities (including Red Circle Comics) all producing the same product," just as Goodman had done with Azimuth, Zenith, etc. under the Atlas Comics imprint.

If you go to the Grand Comics Database, there's no listing for Red Circle as a publisher (except related to Archie Comics decades later) and the only "indicia publisher" paper corp. related to Goodman is a handful of 1950s Atlas comics. And Marvel Comics #1 was published by Timely Publications. (See GCD here), and there was no red circle on any subsequent issues. (See GCD here.) Goodman's pulps have a red circle on their covers, and that's what Nevins is referring to. As for Bellman, as I said, the only Red Circle Comics that Goodman published were a handful of Atlas titles in the 1950s.

I'd like to discuss this with you first before I edit that line. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:15, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

What I'm thinking of, specifically, is to put the Nevins and Bellman quotes and the GCD data into a footnote and only mention Red Circle there, since neither GCD and nor any other standard source that I can find supports that Timely Comics was originally known as Red Circle Comics. These sources includes Les Daniels' Marvel Five Fabulous Decades; Marvel Chronicle; and Peter Sanderson's Marvel Universe. The Daniels book, in particular, notes that Red Circle was only used for the pulps, and even then only "halfheartedly ... when someone would remember to put it on a cover." --Tenebrae (talk) 16:17, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

If you go to the Grand Comics Database (GCDB) and look up the Ultimate imprint/brand for Marvel there you will only see three comics listed there. We both know that there have been more 3 comics in the Ultimate line; heck there has been even more title than 3. So I don't consider the GCDB to be completely reliable. The Michigan State University's Comic Art Collection Reading Room Index does have a Red Circle Magazines listed as a "American comics publisher, a Timely-Marvel imprint" also listing a "Comic Capers. -- New York : Red Circle Magazines, 1944-1946. -- col. ill. ; 26 cm. -- Published no. 1 (Fall 1944)..." Timely only selected as the representative name for Goodman's publishing group as a historian that began to research Marvel's history latched onto it given it being the publisher of Marvel Comics #1 not knowing that Goodman published under a number of corporations. as they used Marvel Group in the Spring 1947, and Atlas Comics in 1944. Spshu (talk) 21:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

As always, you are careful and meticulous and you make an extremely good point about the Ultimate imprint. GCD is correct, though, in saying Marvel Comics #1 was published by Timely Publications; four or five years ago I had the rare privilege of holding a copy of the November printing in my hands and reading the indicia, which gave "Timely Publications".

Since Timely Comics is the common name, and since the exact nature of Red Circle Comics seems uncertain and goes unmentioned in even those three definitive books about Marvel history, what do you think about my putting the Red Circle information, including your new information above, into a footnote explaining all this? Unlike "Timely Publications," which is the common name for the pulp/comics/magazine company, and "Timely Comics", which is the logo brand and that division's common name, "Red Circle Comics/Magazines" seems an imprint or a paper corporation and not an alternate or original name for the comics line. All your information will still be there. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:03, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I didn't disagree with the Marvel Comics #1, I in fact pointed out that is why the comic book historian latched onto the name "Timely". ("Timely only selected as the representative name for Goodman's publishing group as a historian that began to research Marvel's history latched onto it given it being the publisher of Marvel Comics #1 not knowing that Goodman published under a number of corporations.") Look at some covers found on some of the Timely sites, Goodman didn't put any imprint/brand on some of the covers at all. Calling "Red Circle Comics" would seem logical with the common name for Goodman's pulp and other publishing ventures (Red Circle Books/Lion Books) being called Red Circle by historian in a similar situation to selecting Timely as neither were used consistantly by Goodman. I did remove the Marvel section from the Red Circle Comics article do to it being a nonindependent source referenced and the creation of the Red Circle (publishing) article and insertion of "Red Circle Comics" as a alternative name in the Timely Comics article. But back to your suggestion to place it in a foot note go ahead. Spshu (talk) 13:48, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you one better: Given the complexity of the issue, what do you think about my writing this all up as a paragraph within the article itself, at the end of the "Creation" section? The more I look at this, the more complex and interesting this new information that you've uncovered is. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

And wow! Pulpinfo.org that you found is a great site. Finally, someone's untangled the paper-company labyrinth of Goodman's pulps. And it looks like we've fruitfully collaborated, in a back-door way, on Red Circle &mdash: I found and wrote up a lot of the Goodman material you used! See? I knew we'd work well together! --Tenebrae (talk) 15:31, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I've added a new paragraph within the Timely Comics article, containing your Jess Nevins, Richard Paul Hall and Michigan State University findings, as well as official Marvel historian Les Daniels' description of Red Circle. I left out Bellman since most of that page was a mirror the Timely Misplaced Pages article, and unusable as a cite. But as you'll see, that paragraph is virtually all your own information. Let me know what you think. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:54, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I've also put your information at Red Circle (publishing) and added the Red Circle logo in the infobox. I'm dying to get your opinion on these changes. By the way, that great PulpInfo.org site was able to fill in a cite-request tag at Martin Goodman (publisher). Do you think that the pulps listed on his page should also appear at Red Circle (publishing)? They'd be easy enough to copy over. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 01:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I would move the list of pulps over to the Red Circle (publishing) article. I just have not done it as I would want to verify that the list is supportable by the source. I try not to introduce unsourced material into articles I start up. I have verified the list and moved it to Red Circle. Spshu (talk) 18:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Great stuff! I did see the list of his sources at his own talk page; I should probably encourage him to put them up on his Red Circle website. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:32, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Apropos of that, what do you think of moving the Martin Goodman quotes section, which is all about Magazine Management, into the Magazine Management article, which I don't believe existed when they were added to the Goodman article? Since "Quotes" sections have also since been deprecated, they should probably be integrated into the article prose. I've done that kind of integrating before, so it's pretty simple for me. Thoughts? --Tenebrae (talk) 18:50, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Great work at Cadence Industries. I'm very proud of the way we collaborated, and, again, I admire the depth of your research abilities and your knowledge of corporate structure. Those are valuable elements needed at WikiProject Comics. I think I brought writing ability and a fresh eye, and the work we did together helped create a very solid article. I would be happy to work with you anytime, though obviously my range of interest and expertise is primarily in comics-related articles. I do know this: The last time I happened by Nabisco, that corporate article needed a hell of a lot of work. I'm sure you could rescue it.

We've still got a little work to do with Martin Goodman. Let's not lose touch after that. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 22:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

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You might want to take a look at another editor's change to the Marvel Comic infobox. I think you'd know the infobox protocol of "Owner" vs. "Parent" better than I. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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At this point you are being disruptive. You can take it to the talk page or to WP:FILMS if you like, but stop trying to edit war to get your way.

- J Greb (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

At this point you are being disruptive and are causing the edit war to get your way. See Misplaced Pages:Overlink crisis as why not to have too much lapping navboxes (look for the "Morocco had gained 12 separate navboxes". Animated films are covered in another navbox and were link (as is Marvel Animation directly) to in the Marvel Films see also section in my edit. The animate film link takes them to Marvel Animation Section: Animated Marvel Features which has a list of the animated films and the article has the Marvel animated production navbox. Additional there will most likely more Marvel live action films and animated films. If you set such an overlap standard then "overlink crisis" will return. Thus my use of redunate as a reason to remove them. --Spshu (talk) 14:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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I have this other, editor Steelbeard1, has argued over fact of Halo Burger's founding but fails to comprend what any one is saying. The 3RR page always says if it content then go to mediation. He was also aware of his edit warring as going as far as to attempt to enlist others in his edit warring: TenPoundHammer, Rich Farmbrough, GrahamHardy, Denisarona. And reports me to HB's Facebook page.

Because there was content, I posted notices on the various projects/taskforces listed on the talk page. While the newcommers indicated that I was right, they indicted that one only year should be in the infobox as the rest would be in the article. So I devised a compromise to end the repetitive and debunked arguments.

He is now edit warring over the article being move to the Economy of Flint, Michigan instead of the Flint, Michigan Catagory which is basically in as it is a subcat. of Flint, Michigan.

I guess I am at complete loss on how to deal with him. Spshu (talk) 22:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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Pastoral Provision Redirect

Spshu, over at Talk:Anglican Use there is a proposal to revert the redirect to Anglican Use of the Pastoral Provision article. --Bruce Hall (talk) 05:18, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Major and mini-major film studios

I think you should understand more about how the studios work and ownership by conglomerates.

Look at this old link I found before CBS Films was re-established:

• http://www.filmbug.com/studios/

And second, look at the article Major film studio because CBS Films is indeed a mini-major studio among other mini-majors that are listed. Plus, RKO Pictures is still alive and making films. http://www.rko.com

Let me know if you have anymore questions King Shadeed 13:17, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Um, I found that source and is one that I use on the Major film studio article for Mini-majors section. So please actually read the filmbug link. As far as looking at the article to prove the article? Sorry that isn't how it works around here. Spshu (talk) 18:17, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

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