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== Just a bit longer.. ==

I apologize for the delay.. I'd explain why the PD is going to be late, but I guess the only proper response doesn't go to why it's going to be late, just say that it's late. It's going to be this weekend. Thanks for putting up with the delay, and again, I apologize. ] (]) 06:08, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
:Take as long as you like. If you get it "wrong" then a small portion of the community will become quite vocal about how the decisions are "wrong" - See the pending changes RFC arbcom request. ] / ] / ] 08:14, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
::Oh the decision is goign to be wrong. It's just a matter of waiting and seeing what it is and therefore working out who say it is wrong. (See ].)--] (]) 22:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
:::Thanks again. Barring any further issues, like say, my computer becoming sentient and trying to take over humanity, a la ], the decision will be up tonight. ] (]) 06:30, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
:Appreciate the update. <small>]</small> 01:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

== Query ==

With regard to ] -- can a current ArbCom bind a future ArbCom? If the ban is lifted, wouldn't the terms of the unban be subject to ArbCom seated at the time? <small>]</small> 01:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:I think the general answer to your second question is 'yes'. Future committees can discuss and vote on amendment requests of past cases, including those that adjust sanctions against users. For reference, go to the AC Noticeboard, where you will find examples of motions lifting topic bans based on changed user behavior. -- ] (]) 01:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:The answer to your first question is clearly No, Future arbcoms can amend decisions of this and past Arbcoms. Hence blocks and bans are indefinite rather than permanent. '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers''</span> 08:29, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

== Non-article space restriction ==

I don't recall ever disturbing the non-article namespaces prior to or even during this case. What's the rationale for the proposal? Is this preventative or punitive? What problem is this proposed restriction attempting to solve / remedy? --] (]) 01:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

== PD fully protected ==

Folks, if I see another edit war on the proposed decision, people will be blocked. I've fully protected it for a brief period (the arbitrators and clerks may edit through protection). Nobody else should be editing those pages. ] (]) 02:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:Risker, I'm sorry that I had to get involved in that but I feel as though it was necessary for reasons that I'm sure I don't have to explain. I hope you don't think I was out of line editing the page in that very limited circumstance. ]<sup>]</sup></font> 03:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
::That's what clerks are for, Saedon; please leave it to them to manage the page. ] (]) 04:42, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:::Fair enough and will do. ]<sup>]</sup></font> 05:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:::Can Lord Roem? They're not an admin, right? <small>]</small> 10:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

== Image copyright concerns ==

I am confused by the references to image copyright in proposed finding of fact #11 and proposed remedy #7. I asked for (including asking specifically about Commons), but my questions were ignored completely, even after of the drafting Arb. There was no request made for specific examples of copyright concerns, despite the decision being delayed. I'm sure some can be provided if ArbCom wants to see them - do they? ] (]) 03:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

:Yes please. May as well lay this to rest now. Sorry, I've been juggling a large number of things on-wiki so yes it would have been good to have evidence before now. ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:23, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

== Not a big deal, but a little confusing ==

The language in the proposed decisions seems to randomly switch from referring to Fae as "he" and "his" to "they" and "their". Perhaps it could be standardized <s>as "he/his"<s> throughout the PDs? ] (]) 04:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:My preference is to avoid a gendered pronoun to refer to my account on Misplaced Pages. Thanks --] (]) 04:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
::I've adjusted my comment accordingly. ] (]) 06:07, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

==Parallel Universes==
As Arbcom's writ arguably only applies in this Universe and not necessarily the whole Multiverse could "other then those specifically" be replaced with "other than those specifically". Ta '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers''</span> 08:33, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

And as long as you're copyediting, you might want to adjust it to say "sister-site, Wikimedia Commons" in Proposed Principle 11. Currently it says "Misplaced Pages Commons" (although perhaps there is such a thing somewhere in the whole multiverse).&mdash; ] (]) 13:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

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