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I wonder if you would be willing to close out the move proposal RFC at the ] page. You have given some admin support at that article in the past, and I think it would be good for an uninvolved admin to close it out. I don't think it is a very big job, but if you don't have time, that's fine and we can find somebody else. ] (]) 22:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC) I wonder if you would be willing to close out the move proposal RFC at the ] page. You have given some admin support at that article in the past, and I think it would be good for an uninvolved admin to close it out. I don't think it is a very big job, but if you don't have time, that's fine and we can find somebody else. ] (]) 22:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure, I can do it; it may take a bit for me to read through it; I wasn't even aware there was an Rfc there. :-/ So I'm not up to date on it. ]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 01:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC) :Sure, I can do it; it may take a bit for me to read through it; I wasn't even aware there was an Rfc there. :-/ So I'm not up to date on it. ]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 01:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
::That was not a proper RM according to settled provisions at ]. Was it even an advertised RFC? I have posted on the serious impropriety of your closure, Killer; and on your closing comments. See ] on the talkpage. I hope it will not be necessary to take the matter to ].<br>☺<br><font color="blue"><big>N</big><small>oetica</small></font><sup><small>]</small></sup> 02:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi KillerChihuahua! I'm 5115heath. First, Cool profile!!! And 2nd, i was wondering if you could change the picture on the Carnival Sensation page. I would but i cant figure out how to do it. If you do, please change it to a good,recent photo of the ship. THANK YOU!!! -5115heath — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5115heath (talkcontribs) 21:31, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Have you uploaded the picture yet? If not, you need to do so. First, make sure you have the legal rights to do so - if you took the image, then you definitely have the rights, otherwise you will have to make sure the picture is free for our use. See WP:UPI. Then you will need to edit the page, and replace the name of the image there with the name of the new image. There are helpful links in the welcome message on your talk page which will explain how to get help if you get stuck. KillerChihuahua 16:41, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh okay! Yeah i found an image i like and asked the photographer for permission so im waiting for a reply now. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!! :)
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You're welcome. Forward the email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org (for articles or English Misplaced Pages uploads) or permissions-commons@wikimedia.org (for Wikimedia uploads) so we have a record. If you can, have the owner of the image use the form shown at WP:CONSENT; but that exact phrasing is not necessary as long as all the necessary info is in the email. KillerChihuahua 01:01, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.

Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the #wikimedia-office IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 July 2012

A kitten for you!

Now that some time has passed, I wanted to say that I'm sorry if you were offended by what I said and I hope we can put it behind us.

v/r - TP 13:47, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thank you! I am sorry I had not gotten back to you yet... my r/l has been eating all my time! Would much prefer to cuddle cute kitten and hug and make up, thank you!!! Happy puppy. KillerChihuahua 00:05, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Perfect, great, thanks.--v/r - TP 00:50, 2 August 2012 (UTC)



Darwinbish has taught your kitten to bite you shrewdly on the ass. Hopefully that has made your day better. Kittens are cute and have very sharp teeth! Spread the goodness of kittens by giving someone else a bitey kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. little ankle biter.

Help yourself. Feel better.
Um... ok... I hope you get your issues all worked out very soon. Meanwhile, have a cupcake! KillerChihuahua 00:05, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
She doesn't have issues! She's just mean, that's all! darwin 13:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC).

The Signpost: 06 August 2012

AE appeal

Given numerous contributions you have made regarding the subject of 9/11 (, , , , ) and your past involvement in strongly supporting MONGO who was a major fixture in the circumstances of this case (, , }, I do not think you could reasonably describe yourself as being uninvolved.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 05:29, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Commenting on a couple of Afds in 2006, restoring removed content which was possibly page-blanking vandalism, and supporting an administrator whom I (along with many others) feel was hounded and harassed excessively, all of which occurred at most recent two years ago? Nope, not involved. All of which begs the question, why are you here? What do you hope to accomplish by this allegation? The case is closed. I cannot recuse myself even should I agree (which I do not) that I am even peripherally involved. Had I considered myself involved, I would have never expressed an opinion on your AE case in the first place - and that opinion was supporting the decision of another admin, and advising you to cease contentious behavior. Your sour grapes and attempt to frame me as "involved" ex post facto do not raise my hopes that you have taken the advice offered by Seraphimblade to heart at all. Advise you cease such quibbling. KillerChihuahua 05:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Did I give you the impression that I had only that? Indeed, this is a little more compelling: . John's history with MONGO was a direct factor in the case as John filed the case against MONGO that was used to push for my topic ban. You are so many different kinds of involved it is an obvious issue for you to put yourself off as uninvolved, even if the WP:INVOLVED problem were not magnified by an admin who was clearly and unequivocally involved closing the case after your comment.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 06:01, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
I have been on Misplaced Pages 8 years, 1 month and 14 days as of this writing. It is hard to find anyone with any time here with whom I have not interacted, both pro and con, and often both. I ask again: What is your intent here? What is your goal? What do you hope to accomplish? So far you have accused me of being involved. Do you expect me to agree? and if so, what do you think that will accomplish? What, in short, do you want? KillerChihuahua 06:06, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Tis very odd that a few votes in concert with mine 6 years ago would somehow be construed as involved. The oddest thing is that anyone whose supposed editing history is more recent than those Afd comments would know about them. I can't see how edits made 6 years ago could have been dug up in the 1.5 hours which lapsed between when you made your comment at AE and when The Devil's Advocate commented here. But good to hear from you ferocious puppy!--MONGO 06:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
That you "interacted" with someone is not really the issue. I doubt your interactions with other editors are all of this nature. Your message to MONGO on his talk page is not particularly helpful, I might add.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
I'll try again: What.... Do...... You....... Want? KillerChihuahua 14:59, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
I would like you to declare yourself involved, though I don't particularly care what reason you give for declaring yourself involved. Your past interactions with John, who filed the case against MONGO that led to my topic ban, would seem a reasonable basis given additional evidence here: , . Then I would like it if you would re-open the case so an uninvolved admin can review it.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 16:00, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Declined, as I made clear above. KillerChihuahua 17:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
KC, this wouldn't be the first time that The Devil's Advocate found a noticeboard discussion inadequate. He often winds up continuing his appeal on talk pages of the admins involved. If one admin will not reply to his satisfaction, he goes to another. I don't know whether calling this 'pestering' would be too strong. EdJohnston (talk) 16:21, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
I suppose the gist of TDA's argument is the six month ban was either excessive or unjustified. However, there are only two months remaining in the current topic ban so TDA will be able to resume edits by early October. It needs to be noted that TDA was also banned for 30 days from this topic at the end of 2011...and was blocked for evading the ban during that period. This subject is a hotbed area, and most editors have a low pain threshold for those whose primary efforts in that topic are to promote a more fringe view, even if it is done by mere insinuation. I had hoped that the article may someday be rated as a Good Article again. That may be impossible if so much time is wasted dealing with endless and petty AE complaints filed by those that have a history of promoting a more fringe twist in an effort to silence those that disagree with them.--MONGO 16:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Ed, agreed. This is sour grapes, which could be characterized as mild harassment/forum shopping by way of "IDHT"; the case is closed and yet he's pursuing it after the fact on multiple pages.
Mongo: He seems to think if I declare myself, who didn't offer the solution but merely supported it, as "involved" that it will make some kind of difference in the ban. It won't, of course, and I'm not, so fail on two fronts. KillerChihuahua 17:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
I told Tim that he shouldn't close an appeal that directly seeks to lift a sanction he supported. That is just common sense. While I cannot say that declaring your involvement would prevent the same outcome, the reverse is also true. For instance, maybe another admin would have actually commented on the elephant in the room that I was clearly and repeatedly pointing out rather than consistently dodging the question.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 17:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
The Devil's Advocate, I don't think you're going to make any more progress this way. It's clear that KillerChihuahua is not going to undo her comments, nor do I think Tim will undo his close. They disagree with you about the propriety of their actions, and rehashing the point isn't going to change anyone's mind. If you think you've been treated wrongly, I think your time would be better spent going to the committee itself to appeal, and including your concerns that those who handled your appeal were involved. Note that I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with your claims, as I have not read the threads in any real detail, just saying this conversation is going nowhere. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 17:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

(after ec) And you were wrong both times. You were told your "elephant" was irrelevant to your appeal. You seem to have a really bad case of WP:IDHT. Be done, already. I have declined three times now. KillerChihuahua 17:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

adding: Heimstern is quite correct. Your appeal was closed, you are beating a dead horse. You cannot gain anything by harassing me and TimC. KillerChihuahua 17:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

RFC

Hi, I wonder if you would be willing to close out the move proposal RFC at the Men's Rights page. You have given some admin support at that article in the past, and I think it would be good for an uninvolved admin to close it out. I don't think it is a very big job, but if you don't have time, that's fine and we can find somebody else. Slp1 (talk) 22:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I can do it; it may take a bit for me to read through it; I wasn't even aware there was an Rfc there. :-/ So I'm not up to date on it. KillerChihuahua 01:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
That was not a proper RM according to settled provisions at WP:RM. Was it even an advertised RFC? I have posted on the serious impropriety of your closure, Killer; and on your closing comments. See this new section on the talkpage. I hope it will not be necessary to take the matter to WP:ANI.

Noetica 02:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)