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:::: Pearson's key anthropology textbook was published in 1974, not 1964. He also defends the Gates (1948) and Coon (1962, 1965) subspecies (geographical race) divisions: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, Capoid and Australoid. The claim "Pearson condemns those whose minds are stuck in a kind of 19th-century time-warp, when it was believed that mankind could be neatly categorized into four or five distinct geographical races. Pearson points out that the racial reality is that races are clusters of diverse genetic continua, meeting and mixing as we move into contemporary times" is completely bogus, though the rest of what Teddyguyton has written is very good. Pearson has no links to neo-nazism or anti-semitism, these are just added on the page to try and discredit Mr. Pearson by the same crackpot race denialists, the same sort of people have basically posted lies on both Hooton's and Coon's pages trying to discredit them by linking them to racist/political movements. ] (]) 15:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC) :::: Pearson's key anthropology textbook was published in 1974, not 1964. He also defends the Gates (1948) and Coon (1962, 1965) subspecies (geographical race) divisions: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, Capoid and Australoid. The claim "Pearson condemns those whose minds are stuck in a kind of 19th-century time-warp, when it was believed that mankind could be neatly categorized into four or five distinct geographical races. Pearson points out that the racial reality is that races are clusters of diverse genetic continua, meeting and mixing as we move into contemporary times" is completely bogus, though the rest of what Teddyguyton has written is very good. Pearson has no links to neo-nazism or anti-semitism, these are just added on the page to try and discredit Mr. Pearson by the same crackpot race denialists, the same sort of people have basically posted lies on both Hooton's and Coon's pages trying to discredit them by linking them to racist/political movements. ] (]) 15:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::::The racialist work of Hooton and Coon have been discredited since the mid sixties, and while they were both much, much less politically inclined than Pearson they did indeed both advocate to varying extents in the same pro-segregation, pro-African inferiority politics that Pearson does. This is well documented - just like Pearson's close ties to Neonazi and Antisemite organizations.]·] 16:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC) ::::::::The racialist work of Hooton and Coon have been discredited since the mid sixties, and while they were both much, much less politically inclined than Pearson they did indeed both advocate to varying extents in the same pro-segregation, pro-African inferiority politics that Pearson does. This is well documented - just like Pearson's close ties to Neonazi and Antisemite organizations.]·] 16:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::: Those works have not been discredited. Once again, its just you and doug abusing NPOV, and adding pseudoscientific race denialism to articles. See here: metapedia.org/List_of_race_denialist_trolls and metapedia.org/Douglas_Weller. ] (]) 17:03, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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Further reading

I've removed the further reading section as the books are not obviously relevant for the topic (not explicitly about Pearson, although I am aware that they mention him). I don't think they are apt as further reading since they are obviously expressing a specific POV and makes the section look like a coatrack. The books could of course be used as sources - one of them already were for which reason I didn't include it below.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 14:30, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Further reading

  • Kühl, Stefan (2002). The Nazi Connection: Eugenics, American Racism, and German National Socialism. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-514978-4. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |laydate= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |laysummary= ignored (help)
  • Richards, Graham (1997). Race, racism, and psychology: towards a reflexive history. Routledge. ISBN 978-0-415-10141-7. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |laydate= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |laysummary= ignored (help)

NPOV dispute

I made three changes to this article on 6/12, which were promptly removed by one Maunus. They had to do with use of the term "neo-Nazi," which regardless of whether it has been used by others in a similar libelous way is unfounded, unfair, and unsupportable. The allegation that The Northern League and the New Patriot were neo-Nazi is NOT supported by Footnote 7 or any other citation on this page. The term neo-Nazi is used by Maunus and others who seek to denigrate Professor Pearson as a smear word contrary to the Meriam Webster and Misplaced Pages definitions of neo-Nazi. Pearson has never criticized democracy or advocated totalitarianism of any kind (quite the contrary). Maunus uses the header to stress the neo-Nazi smear in connection with minor achievements more than half a century ago, while playing down Pearson's unquestionably solid academic achievements over the past FIFTY years. Maunus' changes are inaccurate and leave the page a far from a balanced summary of Pearson's life and work. To stress the importance of environment, culture and genetic qualities has nothing to do with Nazism -- except in the eyes of those who do not favor those goals and who are too often prone to label those who oppose them as fascists and neo-Nazis.Teddyguyton (talk) 01:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Can you show me a reliable source that suggests that "Neo-Nazi" is not an accurate description of the Northern League and its views? The fact that it is pejorative does not in itself mean that we cannot include it if that is the way most sources refer to it. I think that the way to address the perceived imbalance is to add the material you see missing, not to remove the material you don't like. It is reasonable to include more about his 50 years of scholarship, but I have never seen that described as solid outside of a small ideological circle publishing mostly in journals established by himself. Could you perhaps provide some sources (preferably not affiliated with him or his journals) to show how you propose to include mention of his scholarhship?·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
The Northern League certainly looks like a neo-Nazi organization -- but it would help if we had a good source that says it is. I've restored the passage about the anti-Semitic journal -- there's no question about that one. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 04:43, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
This source quite unequivocally describhes it as a neonazi organization "Bellant, Russ. 1991. Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party. Boston: South End Press."·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I noticed the Wiki article on the Northern League (United Kingdom) says the organization was neo-nazi and was founded by him. IMO if the information is based on reliable secondary sources, and was not an isolated incident in his life (which it does not seem to be), then it is appropriate in the article. The other editor can focus on providing information on his academic work.Coaster92 (talk) 05:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Bellant, Russ. "the Coors connection" - "The Northern League, peppered with veterans of the Third Reich, was a bizarre pagan Nazi group"
  • Marcus, George E. "Cultural producers in perilous states" - ""the Northern League, an international neo-Nazi organization."
  • Seidel, Gill. "The holocaust Denial" - "The Northern League A key figure in WACL, former President of the American chapter, with unmistakable neo-Nazi connections in Western Europe is Roger Pearson."
  • Jackson, John P. "Science For Segregation": "Hans FK Guenther and had extensive ties to the neo- Nazi movement throughout Europe, including the Northern League."·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Sklar, Holly. "Washington's War on Nicaragua" - "The chairman of WACL and head of the US chapter during the late 1970s was Roger Pearson, a well-connected white supremacist, eugenicist and neo-Nazi, "·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Tom Barry & Deb Preusch. "The new right humanitarians" - "Roger Pearson, former president of the World Anti-Communist League with a neo-Nazi past, was a founding member of the foundation's journal Policy Review. "
  • Bohdan Szuchewycz, Jeannette Sloniowski, Bohdan Szuchewycz. Canadian communications: issues in contemporary media and culture" - "It is edited by Roger Pearson, a psychologist who wrote the book Eugenics and Race, founded the neo-Nazi Northern League in 1958, and is a past president of the World Anti-Communist League."·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
More than sufficient. I've restored the relevant material. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 07:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
  • "In 1991, anthropologist Roger Pearson jumped into the fray with what was probably the most comprehensive defense of scientific racism in the United States since 1945". S Kühl. The Nazi connection: eugenics, American racism, and German national socialism. 2002·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:06, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • "Roger Pearson, the Quarterly's editor has been described as being well- connected to influential fascist forces in the US and worldwide and a key player in promoting various racist agendas" RG Newby. The Bell Curve… - American Behavioral Scientist, 1995·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:08, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • "... the work of anthropologist Roger Pearson, who, as the work of many scholars and journalists has established, was a leading neo-Nazi organizer and distributor of extreme racist and antisemitic publications" AS Winston.Review: The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fund
- Journal of the History of Medicine and Allied, 2003·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:10, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • ...Roger Pearson made two unsuccessful post-war attempts to establish a Nazi international society...The Racist Past of the American Psychology Establishment

WH Tucker - The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, 2005·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:12, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

  • ...Willis Carto and Roger Pearson continued after Cox's death to champion Nordic white supremacy in publications such as Truth Seeker and in organizations such as the Northern League....Review of: John P. Jackson Jr., Science for Segregation: Race, Law, and the Case Against Brown v. Board of Education, New York: New York University Press, 2005. Pp. 291. … D Freeman - Law and History Review, 2007 - Cambridge Univ Press·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:13, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • "..."If a nation with a more advanced, more specialized, or in any way superior set of genes mingles with, instead of exterminating, an inferior tribe, then it commits racial suicide."(p. 26)....Pearson, R. (1966). Eugenics and race. London: Clair Press.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:47, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • "It has been said that when a species is reduced to a single subspecies (e.g.. panmixia), it is nearing extinction. Long term evolutionary survival is by way of speciation and this necessarily involves subspeciation. Evolution cannot occur unless "favorable" genes are segregated out from amongst "unfavorable" genetic formulae".....any population that adopts a perverted or dysgenic form of altruism - one which encourages a breeding community to breed disproportionately those of its members who are genetically handicapped rather than from those who are genetically favored, or which aids rival breeding populations to expand while restricting its own birthrate - is unlikely to survive into the definite future (p. 96) . . .The belief that humankind could benefit from being leveled into a single subspecies also flouts the laws of evolution, since evolution is rooted in differentiation (Pearson, R. (1995b). The concept of heredity in Western thought: Part three, the revival of interest in genetics. Mankind Quarterly, 36, 73-103. p. 97)."·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • "With the exception of Pearson, however, none of the above-named who could be classified as anti-black racist eugenicists, could, also, be classified

as antisemites.SL Jacobs "Revisiting Hateful Science: The Nazi “Contribution” to the Journey of Antisemitism. Journal of Hate Studies, 7(1), 47-75·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 22:53, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

He has been described as "one of the most persistent Neo-Nazis in the world" and "one of the foremost Nazi apolgists of America" and "one of the best connected racialists in the world". Bruce Lincoln. 1999. Theorizing Myth: Narrative, Ideology, and Scholarship. University of Chicago Press. p. 122 ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:04, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Please read WP:ONUS. Comments such a s "Can you show me a reliable source that suggests that "Neo-Nazi" is not an accurate description" are not valid to keep as OR/Synthesis. Sources need to claim it as such in a reliable oublication. At any rate, an easy accomodation is to leave the link to the organisation so readers can go there and determine for thmselves. Its pure pov-pushing with the caveats.
"he has been decribed" is the view of one individual. If we were to take that, then we should take pearson's view as fact the same way (which we wont)Lihaas (talk) 12:02, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Nonsense, I have presented more than 20 reliable sources describing him as involved with Neo-nazism - many of them referring to him as a neonazi. It does require sources that contradict that to remove the description. The onus is on whoever wants to contradict 20 reliable academically published sources.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. It's naive to think that the way an organisation describes itself reflects reality. Which is why we use sources, not just the subject. Dougweller (talk) 13:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

association with Carto

The reference to "working together with Wiliis Carto, he published the Anti-semite magazine The New Patriot under the pseudony Stephan Langton" has been removed, because it was falsely documented. The cited source did NOT describe the New Patriot as being "Anti-Semitic" but as "a responsible but penetrating inquiry into every aspect of the Jewish Question." It made no suggestion that the published articles in the New Patriot were false, slanderous, or historically inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddyguyton (talkcontribs) 01:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

The notion that there is "Jewish question" is of course itself anti-semitic.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Need a disambig tag

I hate to even bring this up, but it look like we need a disambig tag for this article. We already have Roger Pearson (literary scholar). What should this article be renamed to? Two options include: "Roger Pearson (anthropologist)" and "Roger Pearson (eugenicist)". Thoughts? Zad68 17:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Let's start by ruling out "Roger Pearson (neo-nazi)" and "Roger Pearson (professor)" (because the other Pearson is also a professor). I think anthropologist is probably the best choice.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Agree with "Roger Pearson (anthropologist)". If no objections, I or somebody will or should go ahead and make the move and set up the disambig page. Zad68 18:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Anthropologist works for me as well. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Name calling

This article, particularly the introductory paragraph, is clearly not intended to inform but to attack and demonize. The contentious labels "anti-semite" and "extreme right" are mere name calling and are in violation of the Misplaced Pages rule against the use of contentious terminology. If editors would stick to the facts, no one would find fault with their articles. However,when they give in to the temptation of name calling--and of citing other such irresponsible name-calling as the so-called "evidence" for their bigotry--they are not engaging in serious scholarship. Such behavior has more in common with the middle-school playground than with the college lecture hall.Teddyguyton (talk) 18:40, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

As has already been explained to you, reliable sources apply those characterizations to him, and a review of the sources available show that those characterizations apply to a significant and notable part of his career output. It would be against Misplaced Pages policy not to use them. If you have issues with the sources themselves, please raise them, or perhaps take them to WP:RSN for a review by uninvolved editors. Saying your fellow editors are engaging in "bigotry" and "middle-school playground" behavior isn't constructive. Zad68 18:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

But I suppose you believe that your insistence on demonizing and besmirching the reputation of a man you do not know and I am certain you have never met IS constructive. A "source" for an emotionally charged word such as "anti-semite" is not a source; it is simply more invective. If you will cease the bigotry and the juvenile name calling, I promise to cease pointing them out to you.Teddyguyton (talk) 18:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

There's absolutely no requirement on Misplaced Pages that only those who have personally met the people who are the subjects of articles can write them. In fact, read WP:COI, you'll see that Misplaced Pages warns against editors personally and/or professionally involved with a subject from editing the articles. From your editing here, it looks like you probably do indeed have a conflict of interest issue and you should read and follow the advice at WP:COI. There is also WP:COIN where we can raise issues about editors who might have a conflict of interest interfering in a disruptive manner with the development of articles.
Misplaced Pages articles reflect what the reliable sources say about their subjects. Writings articles that accurately reflect what the reliable sources say is indeed constructive.
You write "A 'source' for an emotionally charged word such as 'anti-semite' is not a source"--actually we have many articles written about people who are anti-Semites with high-quality, reliable sourcing that describes their subjects as such, and so the articles describe them as such. Check out Henry Ford, Malcolm Ross (school teacher), Henry Hamilton Beamish, Oliver J. Flanagan and many others. If your objection is really to the quality of the sources, utilize WP:RSN. Your other rhetoric is unconstructive. Zad68 19:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Of the four cases you cite, three are not relevant in that they deal with deceased subjects. Misplaced Pages has different rules for the living, as I am sure you know. Of the one living subject, Mr. Malcom Ross, his case, as documented by Misplaced Pages is especially interesting. He sued a cartoonist who had compared him to Joseph Goebbels, and won, on the grounds that he was not a Nazi. The courts agreed and awarded him a judgment. This judgment was reversed on appeal, in which various outside interests involved themselves. However, it was not reversed on the basis that the charge was true, only that it didn't HAVE to be true. Since the slur against Mr. Ross was never affirmed and in fact failed twice to be legally affirmed, his is at best a dubious case to be offered on your behalf.Teddyguyton (talk) 20:14, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Well we're basing our discussion now in Misplaced Pages policy, which is good. Check out WP:BLP: regarding sourcing, the handling of well-sourced content in a BLP article is the same as in a non-BLP article: it stays. It is only the handling of non-well sourced BLP content that might be different. Again, if your issue is with the sources, utilize WP:RSN. Zad68 20:35, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Teddyguyton, are you suggesting that there are no anti-Semites, or that Pearson has never been an anti-Semite? And how do you define anti-Semite? Dougweller (talk) 20:42, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I have rewritten the lead, I have tried my best to use as many different sources available, to avoid "namecalling" and labelling and instead describing actual documented actions, and I have tried to describe also the events that may be considered Pearson's main achievements. The work is complicated by the fact that almost all of the sources that have biographical information about Pearson are highly critical of him, and have a clear bias against him and his ideas. If there are any published sources that provide biographical information from a more sympathetic point of view I would be happy to integrate those. It does not seem that Pearson has ever given many interviews or published memoirs or the like, at least not in sources I have been immediately able to find. If Teddy Guyton or other editors have access to such source I woudl very much like to add them as well.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 21:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the new lead contains numerous errors and untruths. I have deleted it in the hope that Maunus will read the following rebuttal, presented in good faith, and be encouraged to recast his lead and thereby improve the accuracy of the overall article.

It is sheer imagination that Pearson retired from the "University of Southern Mississippi where he is now retired." Pearson went from Mississippi to become Professor and Dean of Academic Affairs and Director of Research at Montana Tech, as already reported in Misplaced Pages. Also, it is nonsense to say that he "set up businesses in South Asia … before the partition of India and Pakistan." This contradicts the Misplaced Pages article itself, which correctly reports that at the time of Partition (1947) Pearson was in the army in Japan. It was years later that he returned to South Asia in the commercial world.

As said before, the Northern League for North European Friendship was neither anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi during the tWO years that Pearson was associated with it, whatever may be alleged against it AFTER Pearson resigned from it (1960). Anti-Semitism and Nazism were illegal in Germany in 1959 when the League held a well-attended international conference in Detmold. This would not have been possible if the organization had been anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi. The five-day Conference was well publicized in the German Press (e.g., Lippische Landeszeitung, 28 Juli 1959 /Der Lokale Teil. “Nordische Liga tagt in Detmold/Teilnehmer aus Zieben Nationen) Voelkerbund Treffen zur Erinnerung an das Jahr 9.") and a function at the Hermanns Denkmal was filmed and broadcast on German television.

None of Pearson's writings published by Willis Carto were "white supremacist and anti-Semitic literature" -- at most they might be described as "White-survivalist," since they lamented the decay of the white race and culture from its former high, creative achievements.

Pearson did NOT found or publish the New Patriot in association with Willis Carto. Pearson founded that journal in association with California Senator Jack Tenney, 16-year Chairman of the California Senate un-American Activities Committee, whose name was on the masthead and who authored well-researched articles for it. It was an objective journal, not "anti-Semitic," and any issue of it will show that it sought to identify individuals--including Jews and non-Jews--who had been active in spreading anti-national, international Marxist and revolutionary activities. As is well known, since the days of Marx, many Jews have been involved in Marxism while others have remained neutral or have opposed it.

It is not accurate to write that "Pearson's anthropological views have been widely rejected as unsupported by contemporary anthropology." Pearson's "Introduction to Anthropology: an Ecological and Evolutionary Approach" was published by the largest scholarly publisher of anthropology texts, Holt Rinehart and Winston (1964), and was widely used for many years as a freshman/sophomore textbook in US universities, including liberal colleges such as Occidental College. His 250,000-word Anthropological Glossary (Krieger Publishing, 1985) was also widely used in universities. His subsequent books and articles were his attempt to draw attention to the reality of heredity as a limiting factor in human behavior, a concept that has been attacked by Marxists and extreme egalitarian idealists raised in the Boasian tradition that still dominates contemporary American social sciences.

Anyone who asserts that Pearson has ever "advocated that the human species consists of biologically different races destined to compete against each other" is clearly unacquainted with his actual writings or with what is known of human evolution. Pearson condemns those whose minds are stuck in a kind of 19th-century time-warp, when it was believed that mankind could be neatly categorized into four or five distinct geographical races. Pearson points out that the racial reality is that races are clusters of diverse genetic continua, meeting and mixing as we move into contemporary times, and that eugenists are concerned that it should desirably be the fittest genes that should be replicated, both within each deme and between demes. Pearson does not write that " are destined to compete with each other in a struggle to survive." He does not see race war as common in human history; more often, it is fratricidal war that is the reality. What he emphasizes is the competition between genes to survive: that the future of man will be shaped by competing demographics, by differential rates of fertility. He sees the highly varied population of Europe and "white race" as having suffered dysgenic trends since at least the beginning of the twentieth century, if not earlier.

The 53-year-old Mankind Quarterly was not founded by Pearson but by Professor Robert Gayre, with the aid of distinguished scholars such as Sir Charles Darwin, R. Ruggles Gates, Henry V. Vallois, and Corrado Geni, with the express purpose of combating the Marxist and Boasian political infiltration of the social sciences.

Neither the Journal of Social, Political and Economic Studies or the Mankind Quarterly are currently published by the Institute for the Study of Man nor are the Scott-Townsend publications. The Institute for the Study of Man is solely concerned with the Journal of Indo-European Studies and non-hereditarian issues.

Pearson did not incorporate "Reverent Moon and former Nazis" into the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). Rev. Moon's organization was already a member years before Pearson joined the WACL and, moreover, admission to membership of WACL was not controlled by Pearson but by vote. (This kind of spurious "linkage" of Professor Pearson to Reverend Moon are an attempt at establishing guilt by association. Maunus and all editors of biographies of controversial persons should be alert to this temptation.) Furthermore, Pearson was not "President" of WACL, but Chairman of NARWACL (the North American region) for several years, and for one year held the rotating position of World Chairman of WACL.

If Maunus will correct his entry, bearing these facts in mind, the article will be greatly improved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddyguyton (talkcontribs) 20:17, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, I have reinstated the lead since it is obviously not all of it that is contested. I cannot do much to take your objections in account untill you support them with sources, I cannot take your word for it, when your word contradicts a considerable amount of expert published sources. Some of your own statements are themselves erroneous, for example the notion that the fact that Pearson's 1964 introduction to anthropology in any way contradicts the fact that his racial views are entirely discredited within anthropology, and was so already at the time it was published. The sources do not mention Tenney in relation to Pearson's involvement with the New Patriot, but describes it as a collaboration between Pearson and Carto. Sources unanimous;y describe the Northern League as Pangermanic and neo-nazi - it would take a very good source to change the description of that. I will change "president" to World Chairman. I will take your word for the fact that JSPES and MQ are no longer published by Institute for the Study of Man, although they clearly were in the past. The little of Pearson's writings I have read clearly belies your assertion that he does is not preoccupied with race war, and I am rather aware of current state of studies in human evolution. Thanks for your comments, although they would be much more useful if they were accompanied by some kind of source that could be verified. It is unclear what are the sources of your knowledge about Pearson - if they are personal acquaintance or experience then I am afraid we cannot use the information that contradicts published sources.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 20:32, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

The context I had added to footnote 3 to help understand the quotation has been deleted. I have added it back because the context is clearly necessary. Please look at the original page in "Eugenics and Race" to see that this quotation has maliciously been quoted out of context Pearson. The quoted passage is a summary of Sir Arthur Keith's philosophy in a section discussing the views of that distinguished British scholar, author of "A New Theory of Human Evolution", which emphasized evolution by group selection, such as the replacement of Neanderthals by Cro-Magnons. It is NOT a statement by Pearson about what Pearson believes or advocates. Distortion by quoting out of context is one of the most common libel techniques and should not be copied by Misplaced Pages when the truth is apparent to anyone with access to the original. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddyguyton (talkcontribs) 23:11, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

The quote is repeated in many works about Pearson, always attributed to him directly. I have ordered the originl from the library to check for myself. I agree that if he is indeed summarizing Sir Arthur Keith's views and not giving his own then we should not quote it as his view. However your comment must be changed since the text is from 1966 and not the 1980s.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:17, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Where have I said it was from the 1980s? If you will look carefully, I said the 1960s.ATeddyguyton (talk) 23:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC) Also, the fact that "many works about Pearson" always make the same mistake is exactly the point I have been making. The "piling on" tendency on the part of Professor Pearson's enemies results in their simply repeating verbatim what they have read elsewhere. In effect, therefore, what appears to be many sources is in fact only one, with a lot of copycats.Teddyguyton (talk) 23:37, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I was able to access an online copy of Race and Eugenics - and it appears you are right he is summarising the view of Sir Arthur Keith - there is little doubt that he agrees with his view, but still it is not proper as a quote intended to describe Pearson's own view. Instead I have found another place in the book in the essay "devolution in action" on page 33 where he quite clearly states that he believes that subspecies are naturally competitors and that interbreeding between superior and inferior groups is therefore harmful to the superior ones.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Also I have added back the detail regarding the REAL co-founder of The New Patriot, Senator Jack Tenney of California. You evidently believed the co-founder's identity was important when you mistakenly thought it was the controversial Willis Carto. Please allow Senator Tenney the credit now. His name was on the masthead of every issue of the The New Patriot, and he contributed a numerous articles to it.Teddyguyton (talk) 23:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I was actually trying to protect the reputation of Tenney, but it appears he is well known for publishing anti-semitic literature so maybe it doesn't matter. We do need a reference for his status as co-founder though.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Pearson's key anthropology textbook was published in 1974, not 1964. He also defends the Gates (1948) and Coon (1962, 1965) subspecies (geographical race) divisions: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, Capoid and Australoid. The claim "Pearson condemns those whose minds are stuck in a kind of 19th-century time-warp, when it was believed that mankind could be neatly categorized into four or five distinct geographical races. Pearson points out that the racial reality is that races are clusters of diverse genetic continua, meeting and mixing as we move into contemporary times" is completely bogus, though the rest of what Teddyguyton has written is very good. Pearson has no links to neo-nazism or anti-semitism, these are just added on the page to try and discredit Mr. Pearson by the same crackpot race denialists, the same sort of people have basically posted lies on both Hooton's and Coon's pages trying to discredit them by linking them to racist/political movements. Onion hotdog (talk) 15:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
The racialist work of Hooton and Coon have been discredited since the mid sixties, and while they were both much, much less politically inclined than Pearson they did indeed both advocate to varying extents in the same pro-segregation, pro-African inferiority politics that Pearson does. This is well documented - just like Pearson's close ties to Neonazi and Antisemite organizations.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Those works have not been discredited. Once again, its just you and doug abusing NPOV, and adding pseudoscientific race denialism to articles. See here: metapedia.org/List_of_race_denialist_trolls and metapedia.org/Douglas_Weller. Onion hotdog (talk) 17:03, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
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