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Thanks

Hi Dianna. Thanks for helping with the daily updates to the drive page and for taking on the lion's shre of checking people's copy edits. It was greatly appreciated. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 09:47, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help. -- Dianna (talk) 18:29, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion request

Do you think you could delete Neccesary and proper clause? It seems like a highly unlikely misspelling, and nothing links to it. I can't quite find a CSD reason that fits, but it seems like taking it to AfD would be overkill. —Torchiest _edits 18:28, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Nah, server space is cheap, and it's getting hits every day. I think it should stay. -- Dianna (talk) 18:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh, but the misspelling is hurting my brain! *ahem* As you say, m'lady. *bowing my way out* —Torchiest _edits 19:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

To edit is to suffer. Worse could happen -- Dianna (talk) 00:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Signatures and moved discussions

Hi Dianna, when you move a thread from one board to another (ANI to AN, for example), make sure that you sign the "moved to" notice on the former board. MiszaBot does not archive any sections without timestamps in them. When you moved the section "About Niemti" from ANI to AN some time ago, you didn't sign the move notice message, so the section has been lingering on the board for five and a half days, far longer than it should, since ANI threads are usually archived after 24 hours of inactivity. My addition of an unsigned notice should allow the thread to be automatically archived soon. Graham87 02:29, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh! Thank you for the advice. -- Dianna (talk) 02:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Admin noticboards

Hi Diannaa. Re: User talk:Electriccatfish2 #WP:AIV. One of the reasons why I don't participate as an admin on these boards is because I feel they have become too much of a playground for wannabe admins. I sometimes look in, and I see the backlog waiting for an admin comment, but I leave well alone although I know I ought to participate. I therefore prefer to work on general help desks that are less contentious. Other admins I know share the same position. Is there anything that can be done about it? --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I dunno. I was seriously thinking of patrolling this board more often myself, though it's not my preferred activity on-wiki. Perhaps something as simple as an edit notice or a set of instructions for non-admin clerking would help, for starters. --

I've been doing some more checking. There seems to be a lot of NAC on admin boards. Not all of it good by any means. Perhaps you're right that for starters an edit notice might do the trick. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You've got a message!

Thanks Chip 07:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for declining my nomination for someone else to have autopatrolled status. Your thoroughness showed problems that I did not spot, perhaps because I was overly impressed by a PhD. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:01, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to have to do it. I hope it does not cost us the editor :( -- Dianna (talk) 01:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Neil Young Sings 'Fresh Prince of Bel-Air'

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The Doors Sing "Reading Rainbow" Theme

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Ben Trulli

Why did you delete my page and saying i didnt prove it doesn't countGeorgeT2008 (talk) 17:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I have replied on your talk page. -- Dianna (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

If you you redo it i can add my proof he existed but only if its undone deletionGeorgeT2008 (talk) 17:44, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I looked for proof, as did several other people. All our articles have to have verifiable reliable sources, and there doesn't seem to be any for this footballer. So what this means is that he is not notable enough, by Misplaced Pages standards, for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Sorry. -- Dianna (talk) 17:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello Diannaa

First of all, sorry for spending your precious time. Upon the following problem weighed on my mind, I decided to offer a solution for Turkish people page, which is semi-protected by you. I also mentioned the matter on Talk page and informed my solution to the related users. I've just removed the two genetic-related paragraphs in the origin section of Turkish people because there is already a page called Genetic history of the Turkish people which is about the genetic studies of Turkish related people, and there is no need to mention the same or similar contributions repetitively in the Turkish people page. So it would be better to go on genetic-related contributions on the another page. If you think my solution and action is wrong, I can revert back the deletion. Sorry for this. Thanks. BozokluAdam (talk) 05:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I think the problem is solved because Jingiby and the 88.254.161.153 didn't make an objection to my advice. The discussion goes on the talk page of the related article Talk:Genetic_history_of_the_Turkish_people#Reviewing_with_a_neutral_point_of_view. Thanks. BozokluAdam (talk) 08:40, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the update. I will read over the material. -- Dianna (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Seemingly Inexaustible Courteous And Civil Patience

I am awarding you one of these, although there is no evidence that they exist and I haven't got the time to make one, but I am confident that you will bear with me until I do. If I do.  pablo 17:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

It's the thought that counts. Thank you very much! -- Dianna (talk) 18:18, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I second the motion as to this barnstar to you, Diannaa. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 19:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Dianna (talk) 21:28, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Me too! -- Somebody better start making the barnstar. Is there a request page? --Greenmaven (talk) 04:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Jack G! -- Dianna (talk) 04:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Please review the FCR article on my sandbox

Hello dear Diannaa,

I am a class mate of the person who recently wrote the False coverage rate article (which you have deleted due to the "Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://astro.temple.edu/~zhaozhg/FCR_JRSS.pdf").

I have helped my friend with some guidelines on how to clean his article from copied materials, and only include text that he wrote (based on the relevant subject mater). The result is quite rough, but might be a decent start for this article.

Can I please ask you to review the current stage of this article on: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Talgalili/sandbox

If you believe this is a reasonable draft, I will put it up live, after wikifying it a bit more.

With regards, Tal Galili (talk) 19:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I have done some pretty thorough spot-checks and this version does not appear to have any copyright concerns. The language used is a lot more technical than is typically seen in Misplaced Pages articles. Footnotes throughout would be better than a list of sources at the bottom of the article. Checking new articles is not an activity that I normally pursue on Misplaced Pages, so I don't know how much my opinion is worth, but I think it would be okay to put it into the encyclopedia. I have taken the liberty of filling in details of the citations for you. Thanks for asking for my input. -- Dianna (talk) 22:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello dear Diannaa,

This has been wonderfully quick of you, thank you!

I agree with your comments fully. Since this article relates to a highly technical term, it would require much more work before it could reach the level needed in order to be extensively clear (even for people who studies statistics). But I guess we have to start somewhere.

I will proceed in getting the article up, and hope my friend (or someone else) would continue developing the article at later stages.

With regards, Tal Galili (talk) 02:13, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Electric Catfish 23:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

It's all good :). Electric Catfish 23:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I read it! Welcome back. Do you want your user-page undeleted? -- Dianna (talk) 23:15, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm really glad to be back here and accepted. I just wanted people to read the part about the warnings. Thanks for the offer to undelete my user page. WTT offered to do it, but can you please do me a favor and do it now? Thanks so much, Electric Catfish 23:17, 5 August 2012 (UTC).

Thanks! Electric Catfish 23:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Now you just have to pick the revision you wish to display. Worm is the best! You are wise to team up with him. -- Dianna (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Who knows, one day, I might have an RFA! Electric Catfish 23:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For all of your great work at WP: AIV this evening! Electric Catfish 00:46, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Dianna (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Another one from the same IP range as the 3 you blocked yesterday

Mind blocking this one? 166.147.120.18 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), see , note the personal attack in the edit summary. Heiro 00:48, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done The proxy check came back negative. I checked the range contributions and worthwhile edits are still being done from the range, so I am not gonna range block. Please continue to report individual IPs and I will block until he tires of the game. Regards, -- Dianna (talk) 02:04, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Right on. Here ya go then, they are back again as 166.147.120.157 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Heiro 01:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done I think their posts should be removed. Blocked users don't get to edit. -- Dianna (talk) 02:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC) And

That would be about half the talk page for that article then, lol.(that might be hyperbole, but I don't think so, go take a quick read) He has been socking there for several years under multiple IPs and and with virtually the same BS argument. This current range is only the latest bout with Marburg72 (talk · contribs).Heiro 02:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I have semi'd the talk page. -- Dianna (talk) 02:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, should slow him down til next time. Heiro 02:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I will watch-list your talk and the talk pages of the other interested editors in case he changes targets. We an use a short range-block as a last resort as well if need be. See you tomorrow. -- Dianna (talk) 02:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

And 166.147.120.29 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is back again , block must have expired. Notice that the edit made inserts uncited WP:FRINGE nonsense about ancient Europeans coming to North American and extracting billions of tons of copper from the Great Lakes. Heiro 22:14, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Those other people on the range are still busily editing articles about airports and other topics, so I will be blocking just the one IP again. -- Dianna (talk) 22:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Fine by me, that is all I assumed would be needed, until he happens to hop again. As I notice them, I will bring them here. I'm not sure if the other IP on that article who originally inserted the material is him or if he is just checking my contribs to mess with me. Heiro 22:42, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I am not able to geolocate the 166 series with the usual tools, so I can't say. The other one was in Virginia. I will jot it down and we can watch for more edits from that area/range. -- Dianna (talk) 22:49, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

It might be, it might not be, no way to tell. Judging from past IPs, the IRL person behind Marburg hops around geographically sometimes, including the St Louis area and the New Orleans area, but I dont remember a Virginia IP being used before. Like I said, if they pop up again I'll bring it here. Thanks for the help, Veritas Busti-rapus, Veritas Benefacere, cheers! Heiro 23:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Back again as 166.147.120.27 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), see where they re-inserted other fringe nonsense into an article sourced to a former Neo Nazi turned new age writer. See Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 128#Frank Collin, aka Frank Joseph as a reliable source at WP:RSN for background. They are definitely now using my contribs history to troll. Heiro 05:20, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

And also as 166.147.120.25 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) here where they removed a named accounts edit from their own talk page because they admitted the information in the above mentioned Adena culture article did not pass RS. Heiro 05:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Sorry I missed your message before I went to work. -- Dianna (talk) 18:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but you missed one, see the message above my last one. Cheers, Heiro 23:33, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Actually I got fed up and laid down a 2-day range block on 166.147.120.0/24. The airport article edits will have to wait. -- Dianna (talk) 23:38, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Shape of my Heart

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Talkback

Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 02:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hello! Please remember to upload a Commons image to Misplaced Pages (and tag it {{uploaded from Commons}}) before transcluding it on the main page. Our cascading protection doesn't extend to Commons, so a vandal can replace the file there (which has occurred on multiple occasions).
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I'll get right on it. -- Dianna (talk) 02:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC) Never mind; I see you have reverted me. The primary author of the article made a post on Wehwalt's page, asking for a different image. I will alert him. -- Dianna (talk) 02:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. To be clear, I reverted not because the image was unprotected, but because it was extremely difficult to discern at thumbnail size. —David Levy 02:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I do understand. You can review Ealdgyth's concerns directly on Wehwalt's page. I am bowing out now. -- Dianna (talk) 02:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I've modified the text to explicitly indicate that the portrait was painted in the 1620s (and noted this in the discussion). —David Levy 02:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Hopefully that will assuage Ealdgyth's concerns. -- Dianna (talk) 02:53, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

July GOCE drive awards.

Hello, Diannaa. I'm here to inquire about the award distribution for our most recent copyediting drive. I've posted a similar question on the talkpage for the drive, but I thought it'd be better to ask one of the coordinators in person. Usually the GOCE drive awards for each participant in a drive are determined and handed out within the first ten days following the drive's closure. Is there something holding up distributing the awards for July? It's been ten days now, and the page for evaluating editors' contributions and assessing what they've earned does not appear to have even been created yet. Like my singing? Ha-la-la-la-la-la-LA-LAAA!!! (talk) 05:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi! As you probably know, I am no longer one of the main coordinators, so I am no longer directly responsible for the awards any more. I will ask user:Stfg. -- Dianna (talk) 05:50, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, very much! I'm sure other participants must be getting concerned as well, by now. :) Like my singing? Ha-la-la-la-la-la-LA-LAAA!!! (talk) 06:16, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Update: A script is being developed that would have done the calculations for us, but it won't be ready anytime soon. Perhaps we can use it for our next drive. Stfg is now doing the calculations manually, and barnstars will be delivered ASAP after that. -- Dianna (talk) 16:04, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey Dianaa - I checked the appropriateness of the Barnstar Awards and the New Rollover Word numbers, and all of these were correct. There were, however, considerable inconsistencies between the leaderboard numbers that Simon used to assign Leaderboard Awards and Simon's spreadsheet-compiled numbers, so I did a recheck and made a manual list of the Top 6 in the Total Articles and Total Words categories for award purposes. All the numbers are on Simons talk page. Let me know what else you need. TTYL :-)

Best regards:

Cliff (a/k/a "Uploadvirus") (talk) 21:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, Cliff. I will check it out. -- Dianna (talk) 22:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 drive barnstars!

		Copy Editor's Barnstar
		For churning out more than 40,000 words in the July 2012 drive, I present you with the official GOCE Award. Excellent work! —Torchiest edits 02:48, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

		Leaderboard Award—5th place, 5k+ Articles
		For completing one 5k article in the July 2012 drive, you have earned the GOCE Silver Star Award. Thanks for your efforts! —Torchiest edits 02:48, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

And another

		The Teamwork Barnstar
		Hi Dianna, thanks for helping with the barnstar preparations yesterday. It's so easy to make mistakes in that task , and I appreciated the checks. Thank you! Simon. --Stfg (talk) 11:56, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Apparently Great Minds Do Think Alike

		The Teamwork Barnstar
		On behalf of the entire Misplaced Pages Community, this award is hereby presented jointly to the team of Stfg, Diannaa, Torchiest, and Allens for their hard work and superb cooperation in planning and executing the highly successful July 2012 Misplaced Pages Backlog Reduction Drive for the Guild of Copy Editors. With very best regards:Cliff (a/k/a "Uploadvirus") (talk) 13:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Dianna (talk) 14:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Unprotect

Hi! You were one of the admins on the recent changes so I'm here to ask you to unprotect this page (she won a silver medal at the Olympics so she meets notability criteria). --Edgars2007 23:00, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- Dianna (talk) 23:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Edgars2007 23:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Ruckearly

I saw your note at WP:AIV; see the note I left at User talk:Stefan64#Ruckearly about more possible sockpuppets here and on other projects. --A. B. 01:11, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the information. -- Dianna (talk) 01:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Independence Day (Pakistan)

Can you semi-protect it? The day falls tomorrow and I'm pretty sure that the vandalism I just reverted will be back as more people start viewing the article. At least, protect it for 3 days. Thanks :) TheSpecialUser  07:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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September drive

Hi Dianna. Would you like to chair the reviewers' group again? --Stfg (talk) 14:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, please take a look at the new drive page, with Torchiest's improvements to the signup procedure. You like? --Stfg (talk) 16:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Wow, so technical! I love it. Yes, I can chair the reviewer's group again, no problem. -- Dianna (talk) 18:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Joan Juliet Buck

Thanks for putting that temporary lock on this article. I just wondered, what did you mean about sourcing from blogs? World Affairs I don't think is a blog but there's a pretty aggressive editor who insists on adding a critique by Michael Totten whom I don't believe to be much of an objective source. I will bring this up to other administrators when I bring this issue up as a dispute but in the meantime if you could clarify how you rationalized the first semi-protected status, I'd appreciate it.--Aichikawa (talk) 16:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

These four websites are blogs:

• http://performa-arts.org/blog/the-prompt-a-night-club/
• http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/vexed-in-venice/
• http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/mrs-assad-duped-her
• http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/bloom-is-finally-off-the-rose-in-the-desert/2012/06/11/gJQAuvygUV_blog.html

The third one in particular (Totten) has some really negative things to say about the subject of the article. WP:BLP calls for a higher standard of sourcing, particularly for negative material added to the BLP. The material was re-added to the article the moment protection wore off and should be removed, again, in my opinion. Reliable sources such as the NY Times and Washington Post have sections of their websites that are actually blogs, so one needs to be cautious when drawing material even from reliable publishers. -- Dianna (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Problems with this edit

I made this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Geraldine_Page&diff=507372092&oldid=506822337 during a recent copy edit drive. I have since learned, by researching other biographical articles at WP, that I wrote the lede incorrectly. I have since made the correction. This correction is not reflected in the enclosed link, as I wanted to show my final edit during the CE drive. As I have been told by an admin any further edits by me would be considered an edit war, I could be banned. I would like your input as I did not remove any references but I did remove some extraneous words. Here is the talk page comments I left with the corresponding comments left by the contributor who disputed my edits. See: ] What is the goal of CE if there will be no support given. As to NPOV, I did nothing to change POV. Based on my extensive writing experience, I have approximately 10 years of paid writing experience and have written two books, I do believe the edits I made were relevant and professional. Please advise what my role in CE as a part of the CE drives is supposed to be. Thank you! Quill and Pen (talk) 18:19, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Quill and Pen. I am unable to comment effectively because your link above doesn't work. If you could fix that so I am looking at the version of the article you are trying to show me, I will have a look later when I get back from banking and the gym. Thanks. -- Dianna (talk) 19:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Here's the most recent change that reflects the rollback: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Geraldine_Page&diff=507372092&oldid=507305861 You can check the page history for my edits. Thanks! Quill and Pen (talk) 19:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. It looks like at least some of your changes have been retained, so that's good. They seem to have their hearts stuck on including that she failed to show up for her performances because she was dead :( I'm agreeing with you that this might be better off omitted, but meh. I am pretty sure I would not edit war over it. You did a lot of good things for the article, so no harm no foul. -- Dianna (talk) 23:01, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Dianna for the support. I'm not sure how tightening the sentences and removing unneeded information is not NPOV but it is...personally when I edit I edit for good writing and DO attempt to incorporate all edits, if possible. I know what it feels like to lose some hard-earned writing as it's happened to me :-) Thanks again! Quill and Pen (talk) 23:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

It's happened to me too, and it's hard to walk away. But I do it all the time. Best wishes, -- Dianna (talk) 23:21, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

This begs the question

Why spend a couple hours editing an article that's going to be slowly reverted. I have enclosed the page history for this aticle: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Desilu_Productions&diff=507471125&oldid=474814445 to show what I mean. Here's a link to the current version: http://en.wikipedia.org/Desilu_Productions. I guess I am a bit frustrated to see my hard work undone. Any response to that one? Thanks! Quill and Pen (talk) 03:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

It's a wiki; anyone can edit; the normal state of the universe is chaos. Systems tend to get more chaotic over time. Stupid arrow of time :) If you invest a lot of effort into an article, just put it on your watch-list. Edits that are egregiously bad can and should be reverted. But don't expect stability on this wiki. -- Dianna (talk) 19:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Diannaa I understand what you are writing about as I've contributed at other wikis. It just seems fruitless to spend hours bring an article up-to-speed and then be threatened with a ban. I have read some information shared by another Admin, and I will make sure to post any comments on the talk page every time I make an edit. I had posted comments on most pages edited, but not all. It just doesn't seem right that I have to step back as I was threatened with a ban. That's all. Quill and Pen (talk) 19:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry you had a bad experience. There's a big difference between a "block" and a "ban". An edit war would likely get you a 24-hour block for a first offence, not a permanent ban. If someone reverts your edit, don't restore it; go immediately to the talk page - per the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. I often check the article history and have a look at the talk page before commencing copy edits on an article if I think there might be issues, but it's not necessary to clear reasonable edits beforehand when doing routine copy edits on articles that are tagged for copy edit with the {{copyedit}} template. -- Dianna (talk) 19:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Diannaa. I do believe used the CE template when working on the article. To me it seems like a fruitless waste of time if CEs are done during the CE drive and later reverted. I am watching another article I worked on, the Desilu one, being slowly reverted back to poor sentences (in fact the same badly written ones as it seems all the edits are being rolled back) so it does make me wonder if there is a need for CE drives. It seems like the edits are ignored. I am not saying I am perfect and my work is perfect, but some of that work should be respected an left in place. Thanks for "listening". I will have to rethink whether it's worth the effort to participate in the GOCE drives as it does not seem to help. Quill and Pen (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

You would be best starting by reading about what Misplaced Pages is. As it is you seem to be approaching it as a dream version of Misplaced Pages that only exists in your head. You don't own the articles, even the ones you contribute to, so stop reverting other contributors edits! It is disrespectful of you to presume that others are unable to improve on your work, especially as it is not of that high a standard. 194.83.172.131 (talk) 13:54, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you take the article from the backlog, or from the requests page, to copy-edit it? My personal approach is to always take articles from the requests page, and I have never had any problem with it. (Except for widely-viewed articles often getting small spurious annoying additions, but that's part of how Misplaced Pages works really.) I guess it works out that way because if something appears on the requests page, it probably means that one of the main editors of that article genuinely wants outside help with it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

As you are an admin

I'm not sure how to report uncivil behavior at WP, but I am asking you to investigate, if appropriate, and take needed action, if appropriate concerning the responses by this unregistered contributor. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/194.83.172.131 Grandpallima (hope that's spelled right) gave a civil response and I am thankful for it. My comments were not meant to be uncivil, but more of questioning nature, as I am trying to figure out if it is worth participating in CE drives based on this past experience. Thank you for "listening" and trying to help. Quill and Pen (talk) 20:03, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I am not going to tell people not to criticise your copy editing. That's beyond the scope of what an administrator should do. The remarks are not very civil, but they're not wildly uncivil either, not even enough to warrant a warning, IMO. What I would do if someone criticised my copy editing is ask for some examples of where my work could be improved. If the criticisms proved to be valid, I could take that info on board to improve my skills. If not valid, then, meh. Also, take into consideration the source of the criticism. Is it coming from someone whose work you respect? or from some random person on the Internet? and then decide how much credence to place in their remarks. Tired now, logging off, -- Dianna (talk) 05:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree there's no need for any administrator action here... but the IP is pushing their luck with comments like "Your writing shows no evidence of you being qualified to do it as a profession". GOCE does not require participants to have specific qualifications, nor to earn their living from writing or copyediting. Quill and Pen should ignore the IP, whose comments seem to be wildly and unnecessarily provocative. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Featured article process and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for Arbitration;
• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, Rschen7754 09:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)