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Re a recent page move.

I see you recently moved "Human genetic diversity: Lewontin's fallacy" (scientific paper) to Human genetic diversity: Lewontin's fallacy. I wonder if you could clarify for me whether you read the extensive discussions on the article talk page before doing so? As recently as August last year, the article name was discussed, , and the result seems clear - the name was appropriate. We should not be suggesting that one proponent in a controversial scientific debate as propagating a 'fallacy', as the title now implies - it violates WP:NPOV. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

No, I did the move in response to a db-move request from Reywas92 (talk), and I evidently did not do enough homework. Give me a little time to read all the arguments and I will move it back unless I see reason not to. (Sigh) There were a hundred (well, seven) redirects to sort out, too. I hate page moves. JohnCD (talk) 17:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:10, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done or rather, undone. Thanks for pointing this out. JohnCD (talk) 23:16, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

And thanks go to you for sorting it out so promptly. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:23, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

The John Cooper School

Thank you, John. From the history, the vandalism occurred from Jh2013 - is that from Cooper's address (74.51.196)?

I updated the page yesterday, in addition to the vandal, so the version that is now up needs updating. Will I be able to go in and update it now from Cooper's address? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deb812 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

User account anonymity is protected except in extreme emergency, so I cannot say whether user Jh2013 was editing from the school, though it seems likely. I have blocked that account indefinitely. 74.51.196.146 is an IP address registered to the school, which another administrator has blocked for two weeks. Since you have been able to edit this talk page, you are evidently still able to edit while logged in. Please use an WP:Edit summary to explain your edit, lest it be taken for more vandalism. JohnCD (talk) 14:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Proof my sandbox

Thanks for all of your help and suggestions with my page, Cooperative Network. I have rewritten some of it, deleted some, and cited more sources. Would you be able to look it over again and see if I have fixed all of the problems with it? I would really appreciate more feedback, so that this article can get published! Thanks!! Ekappelman (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)ekappelman

I will reply on your talk page, probably tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

deleted page

We obviously have got it wrong when listing our business on Misplaced Pages. It would be good if you could offer a clear reason why deleted. If this is the policy you must have a large team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.6.128.234 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages isn't a place for companies, or people, to "list" themselves, it's a project to build a neutral, factual encyclopedia and is not for advertising or promotion of any kind. For that reason, among others, company accounts are not allowed, only individuals, and user pages are anyway not for self-promotion. The place for information about companies is in the main encyclopedia, where there has been an article about Rossi Boots since 2007. Your interest in it is welcome, but please don't edit it directly - read WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest. Make any suggestions on the talk page, and note that anything added needs to be verifiable from a reliable, published source - personal knowledge is not enough. Misplaced Pages has quite a large team, yes: millions of accounts, tens of thousands of active users, a few hundred administrators, all volunteers. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

A10 Tagging

Hi John! Instead of tagging for A10, should I just redirect it into the main article? Thanks, Electric Catfish 16:35, 23 August 2012 (UTC).

Depends whether it seems a useful redirect. That one looked quite a likely mis-spelling. JohnCD (talk) 17:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Electric Catfish 17:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Deleted page Deleting a page i set up

Hi, you deleted a page called Deleting a page i set up created by Sj838 (talk · contribs). I never saw the page but trust your judgment that it falls under G2. I'm assuming that the comment left by Thebestofall007 (talk · contribs) on Sj838's talk page includes a word-for-word copy-paste of the content of that test page. Does it?

The reason I ask is that I'm a little concerned about the possibility that Sj838 is being "hassled by someone who found my details". I see no evidence of on-wiki harassment of this user, and since Sj838 has email enabled I wonder if the claimed harassment is being done via email. This is related to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Inkey Jones. —KuyaBriBri 18:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it was identical. Before deleting it, I went to Sj838's talk page, and saw that Thebestofall had done exactly the right thing when he found that "article": tagged it G2 but copied the content to Sj838's talk and put a "helpme" on it. Sj blanked the relevant page, and another user tagged it G7, but I declined that because it had been edited by several others. It looks a messy situation, but I don't see what we can do to help - if someone has found details, that cat is out of the bag now. I'm afraid this is another person learning the hard way that what you do on the internet can have consequences in real life. JohnCD (talk) 21:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Understood, and thanks for taking the time to look that up. Will advise the user shortly. I noticed that s/he has placed his/her email address on a publicly visible talk page at least once. If s/he wishes to withdraw that, is that oversightable? —KuyaBriBri 22:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I have rev-deleted it. JohnCD (talk) 22:26, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

One more. Thanks again. —KuyaBriBri 22:33, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I've just seen that, but I can't do anything about it because it wasn't reverted or archived for months, so to get rid of it would mean rev-deleting over 40 revisions of a large talk page. It's well buried in the archives, that'll have to do. JohnCD (talk) 22:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

201.230.216.87

Hi, I noticed you recently deleted unneeded pages made by this user. You may have noticed that I posted on the user's talk page that if they continue to do so, they may be blocked from editing. However, another user, User:Shearonink, removed it because he thinks the user has not edited since March 2010 and posted on my talk page saying it was done in error. Please can you let User:Shearonink know that I have done the right thing? Thanks, MadGuy7023 (talk) 16:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done - I explained on your talk page and left Shearonink a talkback tag. JohnCD (talk) 16:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. MadGuy7023 (talk) 16:21, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Has started creating unneeded pages again. MadGuy7023 (talk) 17:44, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Someone else has now started doing so, but this time not with Bold Text. User is 85.98.219.57 MadGuy7023 (talk) 18:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

We are having a cosmopolitan day! Mr. Bold text was in Peru. I have blocked that IP for 31 hours, and (for the second time ever) used Special:Nuke, a weapon of mass destruction that can zap with one click all the recent contributions from an IP or user. The other IP is in Turkey, and his contributions looked as though they were seriously intended, so I left a message saying he needed to register and pointing him to :tr. JohnCD (talk) 19:00, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

How did you find out the person who created pages with bold text was in Peru? And how do you put CSD warning templates on someone's talk page using Twinkle? MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

At the bottom of the "User contributions" page for an IP there are various links, including "WHOIS" which tells you who the IP is registered to; often that is just an ISP, but sometimes it shows it's a school or college, which is useful to know. Further along is "Geolocate" which tells you where the IP is, though once again it's the ISP rather than the actual user, and may not be that accurate - I am in north-west England, on a dynamic IP, and Geolocate puts me anywhere from London to Liverpool. It gives the country, though, and in a big country like Peru or the US the city is probably accurate. Can't help with Twinkle, I've never used it. JohnCD (talk) 19:42, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing my errant revert of MadGuy7023's Warning to that IP-editor. I've apologized on Mad's talkpage but wanted to tell you thanks as well. Shearonink (talk) 18:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries! As you can see above, the warning didn't stop him for long. JohnCD (talk) 19:09, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Permanently delete

Can you permanently delete my account thanks.

--Simbaha1 on World 43 22:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simbaha2 (talk • contribs)

No, I can't - see Misplaced Pages:Courtesy vanishing which tells you how to request that. JohnCD (talk) 22:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Mr.MiketheNintendoGuy - Thanks

He was getting to be a pest. Thanks for the quick action. Appreciate. it. Regards, --Manway 17:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Exacompta

I see what you are saying now. Can I still create a new page for it then? I'll just avoid those types of phrases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SH514 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but it's not just a matter of leaving out a few adjectives (though "leave out adjectives" is always good advice). You must not write as if it is the company making announcements about itself and its products - that's not what an encyclopedia is for. You are not writing for the company, you are writing for Misplaced Pages about the company, from outside. You have to establish Notability by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Read WP:Your first article and User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard. JohnCD (talk) 15:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

re: speedy delete

hey no problem. though the stub need a *lot* of work as its only one line and a link :-) 86.26.57.122 (talk) 20:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I guess this is Gomba. Yes, it's basic, but there's information there - what it is, where it is, population, etc. Much better than nothing. It's generally agreed that any inhabited place that can be found on a reliable map is notable. JohnCD (talk) 20:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Subpage

John, somebody created a subpage of this: User talk:JohnCD/Whydeleted. Cheers, --Guillaume2303 (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll copy it here and answer here. JohnCD (talk) 13:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Jay Venom

Hey its Liam 754, I made this page and I worked hard on it for Jay Venom. He is verified on twitter so when your patrol guy said for his account to be deleted I dont understand why. He said it was because he needed more reliable sources but i had sources on there. Please advise why this account got deleted. I worked hard on it.--Liam754 (talk) 11:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes hi im also a Jay Venom fan and I edited some parts as well and provided references to this article Liam created. Jay is Verified on twitter and being verified on twitter is reliable because only celebrities or people of importance get verified What we can do to keep the article or so it wont get delete if we create a new one? --Jayvenom09 (talk) 11:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it was a nicely-presented article, but Misplaced Pages is quite choosy about who can have articles. WP:MUSICBIO explains what a performer needs to have achieved before having one. Just auditioning for American Idol and being on Twitter is not enough. Good luck with his career, but he's not ready for Misplaced Pages yet. Why not make him a page on Myspace? JohnCD (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

He didnt just audition for American Idol he WAS on the show, He is working with well known artist. He has an album coming out. He is being mentored by Missy Elliott has written music for One Direction up coming album. I mean really Myspace ? Sorry not to sound rude but he is beyond just a myspace artist. --Jayvenom09 (talk) 21:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Not mention his single "Goes On" is already getting air time on radio stations But i read the info we're gonna have to add more " reliable" sources to his page next time Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayvenom09 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

The article said he "made to the next round of auditions to Hollywood week only to get cut from the competition before the live shows". In any case, just being on Idol wouldn't be enough, nor is being mentored by someone famous or having an "album coming out". WP:MUSICBIO is looking for more like two albums actually released by a major label, or a song in the national charts. Just adding more references won't do, you need to wait until his career progresses and you have refs to show he has actually achieved something at the MUSICBIO level. JohnCD (talk) 09:56, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

User:Lithbot

Hi John

Just wanting to get your advice on this user. I actually stumbled across him by accident when I found a sock of User:Trueman31 on the EastEnders page. He has actually reverted the socks edit. From what I can find out this doesn't appear to be anyones bot on Misplaced Pages, looks as if someone is just including "bot" in the name. I'm not sure on what to do though as I'm quite surprised that wasn't picked up when the person registered the account! I was just going to leave it as he's only made about 3 edits in the last month and just watch the account, but then if he's making edits like this one (where he reverted the sock) to Misplaced Pages then I was worried some people would think that this is a genuine bot like User:ClueBot. Advice please?--5 albert square (talk) 01:46, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

If in doubt about a username, you can post at WP:UAA which is where the experts hang out. In this case, though that vandal-revert edit is one that Cluebot might perhaps have done, the user seems (from the user page) to be human, so I think the right course is a welcome and {{uw-username}}, and I have done that. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

...and user has done a CHU to User:LithBrig. No problem. JohnCD (talk) 15:29, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Let Jimmy Wales alone. Good bye, Larry Sanger.

Your deletion of User Page, Creating User:OYCH1961/Fishing islets, is somthing making LOL on Misplaced Pages site since the Misplaced Pages founder was framed. Let Jimmy Wales alone. Good bye, Larry Sanger.