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Kastrioti CoA

From Armorial. The Red-Black version is OR.--Zoupan 13:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Something for you!

The Epic Barnstar
I award you with this in recognition of many valuable contributions to Balkan, especially Serbian and Albanian, history, and for not fearing to enter some very explosive minefields like Skanderbeg. Keep up the good work! Cheers, Constantine 17:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gojko Balšić

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GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

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WikiCup 2012 June newsletter

Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's Minas Gerais igordebraga (submissions), who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's New York City Muboshgu (submissions), with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

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Resolution

Hi there, is there any chance we can work out our differences here without continuing our disagreement on the Albania page. I would love it if we could work together to improve this encyclopaedia. Regards - Ottomanist (talk) 00:17, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Welcome back!

Thank you Antidiskriminator...--Kebeta (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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:Re: New user

Yes, my friend, I am. Praxis Icosahedron (talk) 06:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Brand new as they come.Praxis Icosahedron (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


Disruption

This edit of yours is highly disruptive as you deleted sourced content. That being said as you have received ARBMAC warnings regarding Skanderbeg-related topics, it'd be prudent to avoid such edits. Btw if you can't contribute in English just avoid editing as contributions like men left despot's forces after despot's defeat only lower the article's (already low) quality.--— ZjarriRrethues —  14:44, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Will you please be so kind to present the sourced assertion which I deleted?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 05:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
There's nothing related to NPA regarding comments about proper prose. You removed the alliance with Venice and I let you know about the article in order to avoid any unnecessary discussion afterwards. Of course feel free to add anything that I may neglect to include.--— ZjarriRrethues —  20:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The source says that "none of these figures actually mobilized to help Venice militarily", i.e. there was no alliance with Venice. Your accusation was unjustified. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Stefan Branković

Unresolved

Go ahead and add them. It is possible since he left Serbia, and married Angelina.--Zoupan 08:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Civility Barnstar
For your endless efforts to make wikipedia a friendly place and make other users feel like they have a good colleague (i.e. you) here Alexikoua (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Civility Barnstar
For your endless efforts to make wikipedia a friendly place and make other users feel like they have a good colleague (i.e. you) here Alexikoua (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

George Strez Balšić

Unresolved

George Castriot, surnamed Scanderbeg, king of Albania, p. 20: "But these domestic intrigues were, for a while, interrupted by the weight and importance of foreign affairs ; for war was declared against George, Lord of Misia, commonly called the Despot of Servia. It is said that Amurath was induced by two ..." Is this true? And where exactly did Misia lie, which towns and forts did it have, it would be great if a map was added.--Zoupan 14:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I should have noted that. But what possessions did the Balšić brothers have?--Zoupan 15:09, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I agree. No problem, its just copyediting.
  • Schmitt 2005, p. 167: "Die von den Balsici beherrschten Gebiete zwischen Kruja und der Küste"
  • Gopčević 1914, p. 74: "in Misia(1)" - there is a footnote, but I can't see it.
  • "... fe prigione il Signor Giovanni e il Signor Coico Balsa fratelli e li mando al re Ferrante vecchio in Napoli, chi li tenesse prigioni, e li tolse il stato loro ch'era tra Croia et Alesio, dico il paese della Misia." - no idea what it says
  • "Er nahm die Brüder Giov und Coico Balsa gefangen (seine Schwestersöhne) und schickte sie an den alten König ... sie dieser gefangen halte, und nahm ihr Land weg, welches zwischen Kroja und Alessio lag und Misia ') genannt wurde."
Just received your reply, interesting. Is there not even one map of medieval Albania during the League of Lezhe by any scholar?--Zoupan 15:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Kruje-Shkoder region makes the districts of Shkodër, Pukë, Lezhë, Mirditë, Kurbin possible, and Zaharia held Sati and Dagnum, and Spani held mountains behind Drivasto. In the vicinity, there is a "Mise" and "Myselimi" in Postribë. "Mushan" in Dajç. And some more toponyms which might be connected, but nothing can be known without scholarship. Elsie does not explain where Misia is.--Zoupan 16:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ivan Strez Balšić

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Revolt of 1432

I've been writing for some time an article on the event, so please don't add yet another article with disconnected sentences etc. on the mainspace, but wait for me to finish and then add whatever it is that you think that I haven't written. --— ZjarriRrethues —  00:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you please present a link to the draft which you started in your userspace?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 05:55, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I always work offline and I have written an almost complete article, so please don't add on mainspace your draft, not to mention that there's nothing about it that's not included in what I've already written.--— ZjarriRrethues —  07:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
It is obviously impossible to verify your claim about the draft you started since it is in offwiki space. You expect me to AGF in your case which is not easy because:
  1. your request is unnecessary harsh (so please don't add yet another article with disconnected sentences etc.)
  2. this is not the first time you write me comments like this (i.e. diff). It was described as incivility and you were warned not to engage in further ethno-nationalist tendentious editing ...misrepresenting sources .... in incivility or personal attacks.
  3. you yourself started two articles in the mainspace right after I started drafts in my userspace (link).
Will you please be so kind and reply to my above question which hopefully help me to AGF in your case and respect your request.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
There's nothing related to NPA regarding comments about proper prose. You removed the alliance with Venice and I let you know about the article in order to avoid any unnecessary discussion afterwards. Of course feel free to add anything that I may neglect to include.--— ZjarriRrethues —  20:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The source says that "none of these figures actually mobilized to help Venice militarily", i.e. there was no alliance with Venice. Your accusation was unjustified. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Ankara

Would you care to participate in the discussion concerning the removal of Stefan Lazarevic from the template on the Battle of Ankara article? --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

71.178.108.23 latest additions to the Battle of Ankara would appear to be original research. His sentence, "Also, his role in the battle was differently interpreted: he was commanding right flank or not being seen in commanding role."
  • 14. "History of the Byzantine State", does not mention Stefan Lazarevic, nor does it mention any other commanders under Bayezid and only mentions the battle in passing. This source needs a quote for verification.
  • 15. "The Turkish empire: its growth and decay", by Baron George Shaw-Lefevre Eversley.
1.I am very interested in this Baron George Shaw Levevre Eversley's qualifications.
2.The book does NOT state that Stefan Lazarevic wasn't in command of the left wing. Nor does it state anyone else being in command of the left wing.
3.Copyrighted in 1917, where methodology and historiography come into question.
Odd how The Cambridge Medieval History volumes 1-5, By J.B. Bury, , states Stephen of Serbia was in command of his own troops and formed the left wing. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012

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Toma Raspasani

I was bold and added some refs from the talk page, you should expand with the rest. It could not stay a stub.--Zoupan 20:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 July newsletter

We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees New York City Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

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Discussion concerning IP's edit warring on Battle of Ankara

If you were interested in giving your opinion on the matter. --Defensor Ursa 01:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!!!

A Barnstar! A thanks for you!!!
I wanted to thank you for being one of the few users being patient enough to descuss with me about Religion in Albania for 4 days (unlike with unhelpful users at Religion in Turkey; you could help with that). Sadly, I can't thank you any more than this. Sincerely, 109.92.219.199 (talk) 11:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Religion in … dispute

You probably didn't know, but you're all actually in one dispute. Uncle G (talk) 08:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you, Antid! This means a lot to me! And specially from you! Thanks again! :) --WhiteWriter 17:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for Invitation

Thank you for Invitation in Wikiproject Serbia. --Dalibor Đurić (talk) 16:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you know nominations/Cetinje chronicle

I added the image to the nomination if it is OK? You can revert if you want.--Zoupan 20:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Tomasevich

I don't see how I could be any clearer—whom ever was making that reading was obviously reading my comment tendentiously. Fifelfoo (talk) 07:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

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WikiCup 2012 August newsletter

The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:

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  3. Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
  4. Scotland Casliber (submissions) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
  5. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
  6. New York City Muboshgu (submissions) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
  7. Michigan Dana Boomer (submissions) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
  8. Canada Sasata (submissions) is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.

However, we must also say goodbye to the eight who did not make the final, having fallen at the last hurdle: Russia GreatOrangePumpkin (submissions), England Ealdgyth (submissions), England Calvin999 (submissions), Poland Piotrus (submissions), North Carolina Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), Florida 12george1 (submissions), Cherokee Nation The Bushranger (submissions) and North Macedonia 1111tomica (submissions). We hope to see you all next year.

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September 2012

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pavle Đurišić. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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WP:NPA

This edit contained comment about me. There is a policy which says: Comment on content, not on the contributor.. Please be so kind and comment on the content, not me.----Rereward (talk) 09:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me for butting in here, but what..? That is not a "comment on the contributor" in any meaningful sense, or a comment to which a WP:NPA warning is relevant. (It's certainly no more of a WP:NPA violation than several of your own comments on the same page.) Bishonen | talk 10:25, 5 September 2012 (UTC).
No problem, thank you for helping here. As a newer user, I am all about learning and have been learning much from Antid who gave me this NPA warning, to which my reaction was also "What ..? That was not a comment on the contributor in any meaningful sense or a comment to which a WP:NPA warning seems relevant — But since he is so experienced a user, he must be illustrating both the standard and the method of how to address it." Perhaps you can assist me to understand the difference between his NPA warning and mine? I want to make sure I am a responsible editor. I'm all ears.--Rereward (talk) 10:43, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
No, there's no difference. Antidiskriminator's warning to you wasn't warranted either. (The only difference is that I didn't see that one. :-) ) Bishonen | talk 12:52, 5 September 2012 (UTC).
Thank you. Lessons learned. I acknowledge that neither warning was warranted and will do my part to avoid similar issues in the future. Matter resolved on my end.--Rereward (talk) 13:20, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

This reference gives further evidence of sarcasm and charges of absurdity. Please exercise civility.--Rereward (talk) 20:48, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Rereward, frankly, I think you're focusing too much on things you don't like about the way Antidiskriminator speaks to you. Please try to look past that to whatever point it is that's being made, because I don't find AD's tone any different from what's normal all over this site. It might be agreeable if there was never ever the slightest tinge of sarcasm in talkpage comments and edit summaries, but, well, as long as the comments aren't sneering and unpleasant, it tends to be regarded as acceptable. And if you think AD was sneering at you in the conversation you linked or the edit summary you quoted there, I think you might be overinterpreting his wording. Please think about it. Bishonen | talk 21:35, 5 September 2012 (UTC).
Thanks, Bishonen. Good advice. Antid is clearly brilliant and also incredibly helpful when choosing to answer questions specifically on the discussion pages. Still, do not bite the newcomers is a good idea that will only help Antid to allow others to hear his usually excellent arguments.--Rereward (talk) 22:03, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

September 2012

Your recent editing history at Siege of Shkodra shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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You've been awarded a barnstar. Sort of.

You've unwittingly been a fantastic help to me and I wanted to say thanks. I tried to find a good barnstar for you but the only thing was that silly miscellaneous rainbow barnstar. In your honor I've proposed this barnstar to be created. Keep up the great work.--Rereward (talk) 08:01, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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Military history coordinator election

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Albania history section

Hi, could you revisit this for an opinion ? Thanks. - ☣Tourbillon 10:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Tell Aran DYK

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Re: WikiProject Serbia

Hello,

These are very interesting questions, but they are also hard to answer.

Big number of unassessed articles. Indeed, almost 3,000. Also, quite probably, a sizable number of untagged articles. (). This should be treated like a backlog, really. Article assessment is not a straightforward task, so it is naturally suited to more experienced editors. Plan: find some candidates, give them a tool or two, initiate project-wide discussions whenever something's doubtful, try to generate awareness and interest in the wider circle of editors. And hard work, of course...

Lack of editors who are active in the project. Same problem for WP Croatia, obviously: less than 30 active members. Fortunately, some of them are really outstanding contributors, and I guess this is what compensates for the lack of brute force. No easy solutions here. Plan: identify non-members who contribute within the scope and invite them, and motivate members to contribute more. The members should be aware of each other's work, the project's page should advertise it - this is a powerful motivation.

Introduction of formal assessment procedures. My guess is the less formal the better, especially in the beginning. Whether the project needs e.g. an assessment subpage is anyone's guess, it's hard to say. It's important for members to be aware of assessment process, even if they are themselves not familiar with the mechanism - they could always inquire in the project's talk page ("Hey, I've just written an article about XY, how would you assess it?").

Any other thing you think could help WikiProject Serbia. I like DYKs. (And so do you, apparently...) It is gratifying for the editor, it is good for Misplaced Pages as a very strong generator of above-average quality content, and it is good for the project (content, visibility, cooperation, motivation). DYK collaborations between two or more editors are great. I wish more people did DYKs. GregorB (talk) 14:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

‎Personal information

Not sure what more I can bring, you've already notified another admin who is dealing. GiantSnowman 19:38, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Why me? And what if the editor who you feel has had personal information revealed doesn't agree? i.e. why are you making this request on their behalf? There may be no harm. GiantSnowman 19:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
No problems, glad it's been sorted, let me know if I can help again. GiantSnowman 12:31, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Apology

Apology accepted. There was no personal info there. It was only a joke combining the user and city names.... (I hope the user might have seen that before you intervened in vain. :-) Thanks for your good-will and time. All the best. --E4024 (talk) 20:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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Trois châteaux

Hello. OK, I'll try to do something (I do not promise because of lack of free time), but I need the images of the COAs. Which one are subject of the request? Pozdrav--MacedonianBoy (talk) 09:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


Sources, copyvio, POV

Apart from the outdated sources that you shouldn't have been using either way and the use of out of context quotes from some sources, you've misrepresented almost every quote you've used. As examples I've added the quotes you've used from Buda's work on the talkpage. Also you can't copy almost half a page from Inalcik as that's WP:COPYVIO. Btw the actual info about Pal stops very quickly and from there it reads almost as a copy from Gjon Kastrioti, so that should be trimmed to the essentials.--— ZjarriRrethues —  21:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

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