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October 3

a page deleted

Hi,

I am a new user here. Needed a little help.

A page under the title Tarana Raja Kapoor was deleted on 29 December 2007 by an admin who is no longer active. How can i get the complete information that why was it deleted as I want to write an article on the same title and dont want it to be deleted.

Also can a moderator or volunteer help me with my way further.

Sana.Murri (talk) 21:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sana.Murri, one suggestion of a place to create your article is WP:AFC. There, your article won't be deleted right away, but it might be declined if it isn't ready yet. That gives you a chance to improve it, until it is ready.

Always remember that including good sources for every fact is the way forward - WP:42 and WP:REFB will help you with this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Tarana Raja Kapoor was unsourced and only had a few lines of adoration, sounding like a fan in love. It started "Tarana Raja Kapoor is an extraordinary person, stunning anchor, RJ, a wonderful actress, and a voice-over artist." Just ignore it and try to write a real article at WP:AFC, satisfying Misplaced Pages:Notability (people). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Photo requirements

What do you do when you are an ordinary mortal and you cannot understand the licensing requirements? I quote from "Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion of a photo" ...

"F3. Improper license. Media licensed as "for non-commercial use only" (including non-commercial Creative Commons licenses), "no derivative use", "for Misplaced Pages use only" or "used with permission" may be deleted, unless they comply with the limited standards for the use of non-free content. Files licensed under versions of the GFDL prior to 1.3, without allowing for later versions, may be deleted."

Sheesh. All of the photos I put in an article four years ago were deleted. Can somebody translate the above? It seems like "for Misplaced Pages use only" and "used with permission" are exactly what *should be used in Misplaced Pages. This seems like Twilight Zone. Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 00:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages has a goal of producing reusable content; so with limited exceptions Misplaced Pages accepts only content that permits reuse by anyone for anything, including commercial use and derivative works. —teb728 t c 01:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

(e/c) There is no way to make it truly simple if you want to understand it well, because the details of image use is simply not simple, but I think it might help for you to first understand what is the perfect type of image, rather than seeing a laundry list of the things that we don't want. What we want are images that are in the public domain (not copyright-protected at all), or if copyrighted, that bear a free copyright license that allow free reuse even for commercial purposes with very little restriction. This is what the WP:CC-By-SA license is. As stated at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content: "Misplaced Pages's goal is to be a free content encyclopedia, with free content defined as content that does not bear copyright restrictions on the right to redistribute, study, modify and improve, or otherwise use works for any purpose in any medium, even commercially." So breaking down this list of negatives from the speedy deletion criterion, we don't want images that are:

• "For non-commercial use only": because our standard is for material that can even be reused for commercial purposes, a very non-restrictive copyright license;
• "No derivative use": because making derivative use verboten is highly restrictive on reuse;
• "For Misplaced Pages use only": because this restricts our users from reuse (it means "you can only use it on Misplaced Pages"), and we are all about allowing people to take our content and reuse it;
• "Used with permission: rather similar to the last, this means its use here is specifically permitted, but that's all.

There is a policy we have that allows use of images that are copyrighted in a manner more restrictive than our licenses – even use of fully copyrighted images. It's called Fair Use and is a doctrine which "permits limited use of copyrighted material without acquiring permission from the rights holders." However, all instances of fair use is considered not ideal; we do allow it but only under very strict standards that a media file must meet. Those standards are set forth at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content criteria. Turning to some specifics, File:Bott 2068761571.jpg, for example, was licensed under cc-by-nc-nd which does not allow commercial or derivative use, so it is incompatible with our license. It's possible some of the images that were deleted could meet our standards for fair use, but that a whole nother ball 'o wax; one must provide a fair use rationale for each use of the image and the use must meet the criteria I linked earlier. It is indeed a pain, it is frustrating, but it is necessary for us. The ridiculously widened reach of copyright of the modern age, so much expanded from its roots, is a big part of the problem. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to explain this. Very clear and accessible to a layman. I am going to post a new question directly related to speedy deletion, who is allowed to do this, and how to recover the old usage/copyright information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 16:42, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion for programmers - finding images

I was searching for an image and I tried the following terms in the search box...

• 488824530.jpg
• File:488824530.jpg
• File:Vol 488851659.jpg
• File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg
• Image:Bott 488824530.jpg

Could the programmers at Misplaced Pages make the search process a little more intuitive and forgiving?

Or has this image actually been deleted? In that case, wouldn't it be more helpful to tell the user? And more important, shouldn't old images be preserved (even if not used in an article) so that prior copyrights can be examined?

Last questions: where to put suggestions for Misplaced Pages programmers? Do they read this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs)

File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg was deleted because of a copyright violation. All the intuitive and forgiving programming in the world cannot find an image that does not exist on a website. BTW, you can search for a filename at http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en by entering the file name in the search field and specifying en.wikipedia.org in the domain field. As for "preserving" old images, that depends on why they may have been deleted. Images that have copyright restrictions and not licensed for use by Misplaced Pages cannot be kept for legal reasons. Cresix (talk) 01:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

And to answer your last question, see WP:VPT for adding suggestions for the Misplaced Pages programmers. Dismas| 02:35, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Helpful response, thank you. Cresix, your answer goes to my point that the Misplaced Pages interface should return *something. You must have had a magical way of knowing that 488824530.jpg was deleted. How does a typical user know this? Misplaced Pages must store this information somewhere and it really should be reported to a searcher. I will post this issue to Village pump (technical). By the way, an advanced Google search for "488824530.jpg" in the Misplaced Pages domain returns no results. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs)

At Special:Log/delete you can see whether a specific page or file name has been deleted. Your talk page (linked on "My talk" at top of any page) has links to deletion logs for three deleted files including File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg. If you don't know the precise name then it can be harder to find deletions. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

To PrimeHunter, sorry, another hall of mirrors for me! I visited the Deletion log and could not find the file. I selected Deletion log from the pull down menu and entered "488824530" in the target and other fields. I got "No matching items in log." There must be thousands of records in that log - why no easy way to find a file? This is a replay of my original complaint that the Wilipedia search process is not intuitive.

Another issue is that it is not clear to an ordinary person why the file name sometimes uses a slug and sometimes uses a number. How does an ordinary person know which one to use? I guess I could go to WP:VPT (again) and make a suggestion about all this, but this is not fun any more. I am so far from what I set out to do, blah. 3dimen (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The deletion log was already selected by my link. Enter File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg in the Target field to see . The deletion log requires the precise name. It's not a search feature. You could have found the name in several ways, for example at User talk:3dimen (where you could just have clicked the red links to see the deletion log), or in the article version where you used the file: . If you uploaded a deleted file then you can ask an administrator to find the file name in your deleted edits. Only administrators can see deleted edits (there are legal reasons for this). Or you could have tested each of the suggestions in your first post. File names are chosen by the uploader. It was you who uploaded it 5 May 2008 as "Ap cov 488824530.jpg". The upload form has a field for the target file name so it doesn't have to be the same name as the version on your own computer. See Misplaced Pages:File names if you want to upload other files. I don't know exactly what the upload form said in 2008 but the current Misplaced Pages:File Upload Wizard says:

Please provide a clear, descriptive name by which your file will be known on Misplaced Pages. This name must be unique across the whole of Misplaced Pages, so please make it informative and easy to recognize. It's no problem to use a fairly long name. It may also include spaces, commas and most other punctuation marks. Please also note that file names are case sensitive (with the exception of the first letter). Good: "City of London, skyline from London City Hall, Oct 2008.jpg". Bad: "Skyline.jpg", "DSC0001234.jpg".

PrimeHunter (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I forgot non-admins can also see the name of deleted files uploaded by a user. Here are two ways to get to Special:Log/3dimen: 1) Enter 3dimen in the Performer field at Special:Log. 2) Click "logs" at top of Special:Contributions/3dimen (you get there on "My contributions" at top of any page). You can select "Upload log" if the user has many logs and you only want to see the uploads. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

* Point taken that the names of my photos were not useful. It was four years ago and I thought I had assigned proper names but apparently I hadn't.

* All of the above discussion results in very limited information: basically who deleted the file and why. This is not what I am ultimately looking for. In my original post, I tried to communicate that I want to look at the prior copyrights (meaning the original licensing information that I provided way back then). I feel my hands are tied because this information is apparently not available to me without going to an administrator. I was hoping the Deletion log would provide this but apparently not.

* To be precise, clicking the red link on my user page takes me not to the deletion log, but to a Creating file page, which indicates the page once existed but has been deleted. No links to the original File: page.

* Again, to be precise, looking at a previous version of the article and clicking on the file name only gives me a File Upload Wizard. Again, no links to prior licensing information.

* I must stand by my claim that this is not user friendly. If Misplaced Pages feels they need to delete an image, OK, but just delete the jpg itself and keep the rest of the File: page that was associated with it. The only price Misplaced Pages is going to pay is that a unique file name is used up - no big deal. Also make sure the main search box and the Deletion log "search box" point to this page.

3dimen (talk) 02:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

File pages are editable wiki pages with page histories. Licensing information can be mixed with other things and any user can edit the pages. There have been suggestions to make deleted Misplaced Pages pages visible but I have never heard it about file pages before. See Misplaced Pages:Perennial proposals#Deleted pages should be visible. If it hasn't been requested then there is probably a low demand, and it would cause several problems and complications. I'm an administrator. Below is the content you placed on the three file pages. They were all nominated for deletion with {{db-noncom}} (preview it on any file page to see what it displays there). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:10, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg:

Summary

American Photographer cover photo by Douglas Hopkins. Appears on www.flickr.com/photos/dohop/488824530.

Licensing

This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/CC-BY-3.0Creative Commons Attribution 3.0truetrue This template should only be used on file pages.

File:Vol 488851659.jpg:

Summary

Photo of volcanic eruption by Douglas Hopkins. Used for cover of Harvard magazine. Appears at www.flickr.com/photos/dohop/914692.

Licensing

This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/CC-BY-3.0Creative Commons Attribution 3.0truetrue This template should only be used on file pages.

File:Bott 2068761571.jpg:

Summary

Bottle of fragrance from Douglas Hopkins and Company. Appears at www.flickr.com/photos/dohop/2068761571.

Licensing

This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/CC-BY-3.0Creative Commons Attribution 3.0truetrue This template should only be used on file pages.

Wow, PrimeHunter, thank you. This will be very helpful in getting the photographer to write a permission statement and get the pictures reinstated on the article. I don't mean to come across as a complainer, but there is a problem with the system here. It took three days to get this information. I hope I can get an advocate among the admins to understand and vouch for my idea. IMHO, it is not necessary to remove the File: page when an image is deleted. It seems to me that just the jpg can be replaced with an informational message, so the image can no longer be used. Then all the other information, such as the original license and any templates and the description and the source URL can remain in tact. This system would reduce the load on you admins, as you wouldn't have to dig this up every time, right? I'm not a programmer, but in my mind it doesn't seen that difficult, so I will probably keep banging the drum on this. Best... 3dimen (talk) 17:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You could have gotten the deleted license info right away by asking for it. Your original post only said among other things "shouldn't old images be preserved (even if not used in an article) so that prior copyrights can be examined?". That sounded like a policy discussion to me and not a request. It's very rare for admins to be asked for deleted license info. If file pages were kept then there would be more work in checking whether something should be deleted for legal reasons, monitoring pages for vandalism and other problems, handling when people want to upload a new file with the same name, and other details. Many files are deleted from the English Misplaced Pages because they are moved to Wikimedia Commons with the same name and still displayed with the same url at the English Misplaced Pages. For example File:The Bluebook 18th ed Cover.gif which now displays commons:File:The Bluebook 18th ed Cover.gif. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, thanks for your comments.

* "You could have gotten the deleted license info right away by asking for it." Please try to see it from the user's point of view. That's a little like saying "you could have opened the safe if you knew the combination". It's the first time I have ever had to ask a human for *any content on Misplaced Pages. In fact it seems to run contrary to the philosophy of a wiki, which is "please give me a good search engine and let me find it myself".

* "That sounded like a policy discussion" You're right, and it really still is. In the beginning it was really frustrating to use all the search engine tricks I knew and still not know if the copyright information had been deleted or if it was still there somewhere and the search engine was not cooperating. As an admin, you already know the answer to this, but I didn't.

* "It's very rare for admins to be asked for deleted license info." All I can say is, I'm surprised. If images are taken down for incorrect licensing, I would think that's the first thing the contributor would want to see. Also, please see bullet 1, relating to the unfamiliarity of asking admins for this kind of stuff.

So you can see that keeping the image File: is in keeping with this user's perception of what a wiki should be. Not to drag this out any more. I really do respect the good work you guys do here and appreciate all the help I have gotten. 3dimen (talk) 03:27, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

new editor needs guidance

This new editor: User talk:Anniming seems to need some friendly guidance. They are 3 for 3 on edits made and reverted.

I know there used to be templates for this sort of thing. Please will someone who is current on this add something suitable. Wanderer57 (talk) 02:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 07:47, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Confermation about teacher Name Verra Seekra

Sir

Please let me conferm that mentioned in subject Teacher is still in service to search this respected teacher We are mentioning some Point

1.got tranning in PITAC Lahore Pakistan In Tool engineering Technique

2 engaged In Mechinical Department

From Altaf Mahmood (Manager Design PITAC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.154.102 (talk) 07:59, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I think you may be lost. This website is Misplaced Pages, an online encyclopaedia, and this page is for asking and answering questions about how to use it. It sounds like you're trying to contact a company to give a job reference for somebody. You won't reach them through this page, I'm afraid. - Karenjc 08:43, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Random information visible on article page

Hi,

I added an image to this page: Knut Vollebæk, but the text: ] is visible under the image. Can anyone help me get rid of this?--MP at HCNM (talk) 08:40, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done here. The infobox only requires the bare filename of the image, with no extra formatting. - Karenjc 08:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, also for the reason. Looks great.--MP at HCNM (talk) 09:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Editing of information

Im the head of one of the depertments at JSC MAdneui. Our company info is incorrect and would like to edit it. Also company has changed name so what do I need to make the corrections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.83.137.69 (talk) 11:12, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Please mention on the talk page of the article the correction you would like to make along with sources that support your information. --Anbu121 (talk me) 11:21, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I have moved the page to JSC RMG Copper to reflect the name change, as confirmed by the company's website.--ukexpat (talk) 13:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

ARTICLES IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND TRANSLATION

Is an article written in a specific language on Misplaced Pages always subject to be translated in an other one or the entire process for notability needs to be repeated? I thought it needs only a correct translation to publish from a language to an other until I've read that translator has to submit every article already published in a language to the community of the other language as a "stub"

This means that what is notable in a country can be not notable in another, isn't? And that knowledge changes from place to place, is not all the same?

Thanks in advance for any answers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.7.220.42 (talk) 11:58, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Each Misplaced Pages may have its own guidelines and policies regarding notability, so the presence of an article on one can not be taken as an assurance that it is acceptable elsewhere. We can only provide help with English-language Misplaced Pages issues here though - if you wish to add an article to another Misplaced Pages, you will have to discuss any problems there. AndyTheGrump (talk)

Well, all Wikipedias are basically global. What you need to worry about is the notability guidelines at that specific Misplaced Pages, the most basic of which can be found in the interwiki/language links of WP:N. - Purplewowies (talk) 13:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Any idea for the usage of "stub" to propose a translation from an other language into English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.59.204.8 (talk) 00:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

And what about sources in different languages? How could they has been taken as regular sources if no one can understand the original meaning of it? At the same time, not less important if the most part of community can not understand because written in other languages than English! Anyway, this could be the reason why different wiki-language platforms need to repeat the entire process for notability to verify the meaning of the sources and evaluate their degree of consistencies to be translated.. Anyone can tell me if is there any translator's community that I can talk to?

Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.3.60.92 (talk) 11:29, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Display the archives

I don't know the proper procedure to display the archives on a talk page.

The page is Misplaced Pages talk:Copyright violations

The archive is at: Misplaced Pages talk:Copyright violations/Archive 1--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:51, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done I added an archives box. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 15:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and now I know how to do it.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Question re Dominican Republic

Dominican Republic is a separate country than Dominica both located in the southern Caribbean. Different countries Dominica (The Commonwealth of Dominica) is not The Dominican Republic...Your site redirects Dominica to Dominican Republic is in the "same" country.

Please repair! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.191.83.69 (talk) 16:01, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The article Dominica has a hat note:

Not to be confused with the Dominican Republic.

Where did you see the error?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Factual errors on United States presidential election, 1864

I do not the right numbers so I cannot edit the page to make it sensible. A section of the page is labeled "Results by State".

Here are some mistakes.

The leftmost column says Minnesota gets 4 electoral votes. The inner column credits Lincoln with 9 votes

Ignoring that mistake there are still two sums wrongs based on the listed numbers:

The sum of the numbers reported for the first column is wrong. Given the numbers the tally should be 239.

The tally of the electoral votes as given in the Lincoln column is not 221 but 218. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpcohoon (talk • contribs) 16:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Ruslik_Zero 17:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Questions on speedy deletion

Four years ago I wrote an article on a photographer whose work appeared on the covers of many fashion magazines. I went to a lot of effort to make sure the images met all guidelines. In April the images were removed by Speedy Deletion. Here are my questions...

1) Is it true that only an administrator can perform a speedy deletion and why would it take so long for this to happen?

(Specifically is Nyttend an administrator and how do I determine this? If someone does a speedy deletion, you can understand that I would like to be assured that this person really understands the complex criteria, such as F9 etc.)

2) Now that the images have been deleted, how do I go back and review what the original usage was, so that I can see how it was in violation of F9? These photos were provided and approved by the photographer. I still have copies of the images, but does Misplaced Pages still have the original copyright information that I provided, and where can I find it? If Misplaced Pages deletes this information, for heavens sake... why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 16:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

1) Yes, only people with admin rights can speedy delete files. This can occur at any time; there's no time limit for noticing a problem with a file that brings it under the speedy deletion criteria. Yes, Nyttend is an admin. You can check this easily on their userpage at User:Nyttend, which has an admin userbox with a "verify" link to click.

2) Your next step should be to try asking the deleting admin, ie Nyttend, by leaving a question at User talk:Nyttend. They will have access to details about the deleted files, and should be able to explain how the licences failed to satisfy Misplaced Pages's requirements (and what, if anything, you might be able to do to rectify the problem). - Karenjc 17:12, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

They were deleted because there were licensed as CC-BY-NC-ND, which is not an appropriate license for Misplaced Pages. Only CC-BY-SA or a less restrictive license is allowed. Ruslik_Zero 17:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Karenjc and Ruslik - will follow up with Nyttend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 17:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

In what I assume is just a coincidence, a prospective admin is being asked right now how they would handle a CC-BY-ND license.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:01, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

About template

A40 road (London)

I am struggling to add this to my about template which reads thus: This article is about the A40 in London For the road outside London, see the main A40 road article. For other uses, see A40 road (London) (disambiguation).

I don't want A40 road (London)... which of course appears as a redlink ... but A40 as the disambiguation.

My formatting is this: {{about|the '''A40''' in ]. For the road outside London, see the main ] article}}

From where does the redlink come from? I can't understand how to add what I want to this template.

Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 16:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Postscript

The A40 road article has this ( i.e. not a template):

For other uses, see A40 (disambiguation), for details of the A40 in London, see A40 road (London).

-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

How about {{about|the A40 in ]|the road outside London|A40 road (Great Britain)|other uses|A40 (disambiguation)}} which renders as:

This page is about the A40 in London. For the road outside London, see A40 road (Great Britain). For other uses, see A40 (disambiguation).

or {{about|the A40 in ]|the road outside London|A40 road (Great Britain)|other uses|A40}}

This page is about the A40 in London. For the road outside London, see A40 road (Great Britain). For other uses, see A40. to avoid the redirect.--ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Gosh! That was quick. Thank you for sterling service. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

No problem, happy to help.--ukexpat (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Amado Crowley

I need someone to check if this article is suitable to be added to the exisiting Misplaced Pages page on Amado Crowley. I have tried four times to add the data but it keeps getting deleted. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xentophace (talk • contribs) 18:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

You need to read what you were told in the reply to your previous question at #Adding information to an article above. Read the tutorial, and in particular, follow the link to WP:Referencing for beginners. If you don't yet understand the detail of how to edit, put your suggestions in the talk page for the article, and let other editors consider it. I have deleted the lengthy details from below, because that detail doesn't belong here. David Biddulph (talk) 18:21, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Xeno, you keep pasting this content into the article, but have never provided a shred of evidence that the person you write about had anything whatsoever to do with the man who called himself "Amado Crowley". --Orange Mike | Talk 18:24, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Combining or cross-referencing categories

I recall having read about a tool that allows me to combine two or more Misplaced Pages categories. For example if I want to find all articles categorized as women novelists + people from Winchester + deaths from tuberculosis, how do I proceed? I can't find the tool. Any help is appreciated, and thank you in advance. ---Sluzzelin talk 18:54, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

See WP:CATSCAN.--ukexpat (talk) 19:38, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! ---Sluzzelin talk 00:35, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Question about my User talk page

I was viewing a Misplaced Pages page and I got a message that "userx" had posted something on my User talk page.

1) How did he send me that message, or does it happen automatically when someone posts to your talk page?

2) How do I let him know that I answered his post, or is there a way to do that? 3dimen (talk) 22:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Please Help:Using talk pages.Moxy (talk) 22:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That message automatically is displayed by Misplaced Pages when a new message has been posted to your talk page.

–– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

To tell someone that you've left them a message somewhere other than on their own talk page, you can use the {{talkback}} template. Go to their talk page and enter the code {{talkback|XXXX}}, with XXXX being the page where the message has been left. So in the case you cite, the code would be {{talkback|User talk:3dimen}}. - Karenjc 09:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the clarifications, especially about Talkback. Just tried it and it looks useful. 3dimen (talk) 05:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Trouble setting up an account

On the new accounts page, I entered my proposed username, password, e-mail address, and that horrible "captcha" word. After entering, it comes back with some sort of message about not being able to create the account. I have tried this several times and each time I get a different error message. The last error was "Login error The user account was not created, as we could not confirm its source. Ensure you have cookies enabled, reload this page and try again." After that I got: "Login error Username entered already in use. Please choose a different name."

Is there an easier way to determine whether or not a username has been taken already other than typing in all of the information over and over until it is approved?

Your login page states "Registering a free account takes only a few seconds and has many benefits." This is not true at all.

Frustrated, Jim B — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.160.181 (talk) 23:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

You can search for a user that already has that username. Just go to the search box on the top right of this page, type "User:<whatever username you want>" to see if it's already taken. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:26, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

O.K. Not obvious, but that worked. Thank you very much anonymouse321. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimbwiki (talk • contribs) 23:37, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Great! Welcome to Misplaced Pages! –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:39, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

BTW, I do agree it's not that obvious – I had the same issue :/ –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:42, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Special:ListUsers can also be used to see taken names with a given prefix. Special:Log/newusers shows accounts are created each minute. The account creation form has a link to Misplaced Pages:Request an account for users with problems. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I had never seen the Special:ListUsers page, thanks for showing me. It's hard to believe that there are that many usernames – and sadly most of them have no user page, no talk page, no contributions. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 00:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

{{NUMBEROFUSERS}} returns 48,453,801. This and other large numbers are at Special:Statistics. "Special pages" in the toolbox to the left has links to these pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Help

I write for jill dahne and the information that I copied was from her website which I wrote for her and many other people copied and pasted it for other purposes please reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dina101 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I see the text at http://jilldahne.com/about.html but there is a bigger problem than Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials: The text at Jill Dahne violates several key Misplaced Pages policies and qualifies for Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion#G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. And you have a strong conflict of interest. See Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest. You shouldn't make an article about her. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

October 4

Redirect error

While trying to locate information on an organization I was assigned to, the 360th Tactical Electronics Warfare Squadron, although the search comes up with the proper name, it is redirected to the 970th Airborn Air Controller Squadron, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the 360th TEWS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.42.98 (talk) 00:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Since there is no "real" page called 360th Tactical Electronics Warfare Squadron, you can replace the redirect page with new content. However, I do not know why that redirect is there, considering it's relatively unrelated. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 00:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Please give links or exact titles in the future. There are no articles or redirects by any of the mentioned titles but after searching I found there is a redirect from 360th Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron to 970th Airborne Air Control Squadron. The Air Force Historical Research Agency says at http://www.afhra.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=11935: "Redesignated 360th Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron on 15 Mar 1967. Inactivated on 31 Jul 1973. Redesignated: 970th Airborne Warning and Control Squadron on 18 Sep 1985; 970th Airborne Air Control Squadron on 7 Mar 1996." This is the exact titles used in our articles and the source is considered reliable by Misplaced Pages. Do you have evidence that it is wrong? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

insert ½

When editing, in the "insert" beliw the edit box, you used to be able to pick "symbols" and get fractions such as "½". Now those fraction characters are not there. They are not under insert/math and logic either. Is there a way to get those characters back in the "insert"? Bubba73 05:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Try clicking on "Special characters" above the editing box and click "Symbols". Also, are you using any special editing tools (e.g. wikEd)? –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

That "above the edit box" thing isn't available to people using the standard (as opposed to advanced) toolbar. I used to have the dropdown, but I don't see it this edit. :-/ - Purplewowies (talk) 11:36, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

They were removed from edittools after MediaWiki talk:Edittools#Proposal to remove fractions. Note that Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Fractions says: "The use of the few Unicode symbols available for fractions (such as ½) is discouraged entirely, for accessibility reasons among others." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't see "special characters". When I tried using the advanced editing on Firefox, I don't get the "Insert" stuff at all (see my message 2 or 3 days ago). Bubba73 13:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The main place I use "½" is in chess articles. In chess, a win gets 1 point and a draw gets ½ point. See Berlin_1881_chess_tournament#Masters Tournament, for example. The alternatives (0.5, 1/2, and the frac method) do not seem as good. Bubba73 13:47, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

KURU Family tree in page"Mahabharata" Indian epic

In the "Mahabharat" page of wikipedia there I'can help to expand the Kuru familiy tree by naming more of the ancestor of "Bhima" (one of Pandavas). But, on trying to do so, I am not getting edit option in that page. Please help. The details are:- Bhima got married to Hidimbaa (who was sister of Hidimb) and as result they have son named Ghatotkach, who married Mourwi Clearly know as Ahilavati. And their son named Barbareek (Popularly known as Khatu Shyam Ji). Another; Duryodhana's son's name was Laxman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.0.63.5 (talk) 06:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

That page is semi-protected – only auto-confirmed registered users (users with 4+ days and 10+ edits) can edit that page. I highly recommend that you create an account. Alternatively, you can request a change by putting {{edit semi-protected}} on the article's talk page for another user to do it for you. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 07:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The other point to remember is verifiability; please ensure that you can support your changes by reference to published reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

common phrases and proper names

I am getting copyright issues for common names and phrase.--Kruti338 (talk) 07:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kruti338 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

If you are referring to the phrases identified by the bot in the notice at the top of your article Fleet Management Limited – Ship Management, then my personal feeling is that this may be over-sensitivity of the bot, and that the similarities between the LinkedIn page and your article aren't enough to justify accusations of copyright violation or plagiarism.

What is more worrying, however, is that if you are the Kruti Shah referred to on the LinkedIn page as the Media and Corporate communication Executive of Fleet Management Limited then you seem to have a clear conflict of interest and shouldn't be writing about that company. The article which you have written is written in a promotional manner, rather than encyclopaedic. None of the statements in the article are directly supported by citations to what you have referred to as "references". If you were to continue to edit Misplaced Pages on other topics you would need to read WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:09, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Having looked a bit further to see what independent reliable sources there may be to support the statements in the article, I see that although there may not be strong evidence of copyright violation or plagiarim from the LinkedIn page, there does seem to be such evidence from the company's web pages. Please read WP:Copyvio. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:37, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Article incorrectly indexed in categories

The biography Frieda Zames is incorrectly indexed by first name (under F) instead of surname (under Z) in the relevant categories, I can't see why it's happening or how to fix it. Roger (talk) 12:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Roger. I added {{DEFAULTSORT:Zames, Frieda}} just above the categories, specifying last name, then first name. The purpose of DEFAULTSORT is to specify in one shot how all categories will sort the title of a page. You can also specify the sorting of individual categories by piping them, e.g., ]. See more at WP:SORTKEY. Best regards.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:08, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Resolved Thanks Roger (talk) 12:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Bath Rugby - Past and Present

http://www.bathrugby.com/team/first-fifteen-squad

Carl Fearns is missing from your list. Left Sale on 30.6.11 and joined Bath on 1.7.11. Link above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.222.157.174 (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Carl Fearns is listed at Bath Rugby and {{Bath Rugby squad}} but after some searching I see he was missing at Category:Bath Rugby players. I have added him there. Please link pages you refer to another time. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Navbox options not showing

Hi, I added a tennis tournament to the Template:1974 Commercial Union Assurance Grand Prix navbox but it doesn't show. The tournament is the 1974 Stockholm Open and should show under the 'Grand Prix circuit section' but I can only see 3 tournaments (Paris, Sydney, Tokyo) instead of the 6 that are in the list.--Wolbo (talk) 14:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

There was an extraneous "|Tokyo Outdoor]]" in the template. I've removed it. --ColinFine (talk) 15:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Thx!--Wolbo (talk) 17:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

iPhones and editing

I was told that I could use my iPhone to edit Misplaced Pages using safari yet I seem unable to do so. There are no edit buttons etc. I can only post here because there is a link at the top of the page for a new question. There does not sadly even seem to be a way to answer if there are any replies here. Am I doing something wrong or not doing something I should be doing to enable me to edit articles or take part in discussions on talk pages. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.254.208 (talk) 15:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't have an iPhone but maybe it displays a mobile Misplaced Pages version without edit links by default, and has a Desktop link at the bottom. You can also try to manually enter ?action=edit to the end of a page url. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

A big thank you. Yes, it was on default and it did have a desktop link. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.254.208 (talk) 16:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Printing out a single page from a long article.

15:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)75.23.47.44 (talk)How do I go about printing a single page from a long article without printing the whole article? For example, I wish to print the the section of the article on Henry VIII that lists the wives and issue of the king (near the end of the article itself). Thank you. ----

Nor really a Misplaced Pages question. The answer would depend on your browser and printer. In general I would expect your browser to have a "Print Preview" option, which would allow you to see what pages your required material would be on, then the "Print" option would normally allow you to select a range of page numbers to print. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Or your browser may enable you to mark/select text (for example with mouse-dragging) before going to the print menu and click something to only print the selected text. Which browser is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Changing title to a page or moving the page

I asked about this earlier (see link below), and received helpful replies, including one which suggested that I post a notice of the intended move and wait for replies before moving the page:

I posted notices on the Talk page of the article itself, and on the Project Peerage page, but haven't had any replies, so I'd like to now go ahead with moving the page. However I'm still unclear as to whether that's the only option, i.e. is there any way to simply change the title of the page without actually moving it, or is the only solution to actually move the page if the existing title is incorrect?

One other question. In the earlier discussion it was said that there's a 'Move this page' button at the bottom of the page, but I've checked, and it doesn't seem to be there. NinaGreen (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Nina, it's really just a matter of semantics. Moving a page to a new title is equivalent to renaming the page. For me, the "Move this page" link is both in the set of links down the left hand side (in the "This page" section), and at the bottom just above the search box, but your case may be different if we use different skins. You can alternatively use this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:MovePage&target=John_Neville%2C_1st_Baron_Neville_de_Raby Rojomoke (talk) 16:20, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Nina. Yes, the move option is the only proper way to change the tile of a page, because the history of the page is extremely important for both copyright and other reasons, so it has to be moved to the new title. If you are using the (terrible) default skin (Vector), the move button is hidden but see the image I have posted. If you are fairly certain about the move target, you can be bold but if you want true input, you would make a formal requested move on the talk page. Your note on the talk page is good, but it only captures the attention of people who have the page on their watchlist, whereas a move request will be seen by all people who monitor our centralized page for requesting page moves. So you can modify that talk page note in the form as described below. A bot will take over from there listing the move at the centralized discussion.

== Requested move ==
{{subst:requested move|NewName}} Place here your reasons for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines and providing evidence in support where appropriate.--~~~~

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for your help. I've submitted a move request, and will also check to see which skin the page is using, now that I know about skins.NinaGreen (talk) 17:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Skin is not a page setting but a setting for user accounts at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. A user sees all pages in the same skin – unless you click or make a url containing useskin=... such as http://en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page?useskin=chick. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've now experimented with a few different skins in my user account.NinaGreen (talk) 16:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

inaccurate information posted about me...how can I correct it?

I am the world's fastest reader. There is inaccurate information posted under speed reading about me. I would like to add documentation that proves the inaccuracy.

I had a commercial years ago, and the FTC challenged my claims. People are writing about the challenge, but not the resolution making it appear I was dishonest. We provided the FTC with an efficacy study that proved my program works that they accepted. Your posting mentions they disputed my claims, but leaves out the fact they accepted our study.

I would like to add a link to this study, and state that the dispute was resolved after we submitted a scientific study that proved that our program works. Here is the link to the study: https://s3.amazonaws.com/efficacystudy/FullEfficacyReport.pdf

Our competition has posted this information to discredit me.

Can you please advise me on how to go about providing the efficacy study, and indicating how the dispute was settled using your rules?

Best, Howard Stephen Berg--The World's Fastest Reader — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrreader1 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Am I right in assuming that you are referring to our article Speed reading? It seems to refer to you - and at first glance the sources cited clearly look inappropriate. I think for now I'd best remove any reference to you at all while I look into this. As for the pdf you link, it is actually of no use to us, as we use published material which complies with our sourcing policy (WP:RS), and there is no way to verify a pdf anyway. If you can find anything (e.g. from the media) which confirms what you state, it may be possible to cite this as a source. I think it would be best to centralise any discussions on the article talk page Talk:Speed reading, and I suggest you reply there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:54, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

"Deleted contributions"

What are these (on edit count page)? I've been searching WP to find the answer and failed. I've also looked through the archive here. A couple of the posts I saw seemed to say they are just normal article contribs. which have got deleted (the person asking the question had 900). But I've only got three and I've certainly been reverted more than 3 times! Then I saw another post saying it's revdel'd contributions because of libel, outing, vandalism etc - which alarmed me that I've got more than zero. (And how did the guy with 900 get to that without a community ban?) Anyone explain and/or any admin tell me what my 3 were? DeCausa (talk) 18:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

They are edits that have been deleted, not reverted, i.e. they were edits to articles where the articles were later deleted. In your case one edit was to Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Opposition to the legalisation of abortion and another two were to User talk:67.212.88.26--Jac16888 18:10, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Ah, thanks very much. That's a relief. DeCausa (talk) 18:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Heh, when I was first becoming active in Misplaced Pages, and I saw something about deleted edits, I resolved that my goal would be to have zero, thinking that a deleted edit was an edit later reverted by someone else because it was a bad edit. Now I have hundreds, but I've learned that my original assumption, the same as yours wasn't quite right.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

As you apparently know, deleted edits can only be seen by administrators and don't appear on your user contributions page. By far the most common reason for deleted edits is that the page was later deleted, and that's the case for all your three deleted edits. But revdel'd edits are treated the same way. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:42, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

jAYBIRDS OF aMERICA

Derived from "NAKED AS A JAYBIRD", certain ladies have adopted the name while doing their housework. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.160.24 (talk) 19:33, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. Can we help you with anything regarding Misplaced Pages? --Jayron32 19:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I assume this is a request to add something to an article. I'm guessing the concept isn't notable enough for its own article, but if there are reliable sources stating this, suggest it on Talk:Jaybird Talk:Blue Jay.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:38, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

After looking at blue jay, I'm thinking Naked is the way to go, and since Misplaced Pages is not censored, I'm not going there.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Change to editing page

My editing interface has changed from what it previously was and I am no longer offered the option to insert wiki mark-up from beneath the edit summary or to click to sign my posts. How do I restore the original interface? Ankh.Morpork 23:22, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

It has worked for many to disable "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

October 5

About Editing

How can I use images from other websites? And a question how can a user become administrator? Where will I find the wiki codes? --pratyya (talk) 04:49, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to answer these as best as I can Pratyya. In order: 1) You probably can't use images from other websites at Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages does not normally accept images without a clear provenance, and usually requires that the image is either a) old enough to be in the public domain or b) uploaded directly by the person who created the image. There are exceptions, but they are very complicated. See Misplaced Pages:Non-free content criteria for information on that. 2) To become an administrator, a user has to pass an "election" of sorts at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship. There are no "hard" rules as to what is required to become an admin beyond "very familiar with Misplaced Pages, all of its conventions and rules, etc." If you're too new to know how to become an administrator, you're also too new to be an administrator. Keep working at Misplaced Pages, make lots of good content contributions, and start to be involved in "behind the scenes" work as well, and you can apply when you are ready. 3) Help:Wiki markup covers the full spectrum of "wiki codes". Does all that help answer your questions? --Jayron32 04:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

1. You first have to save the file to your computer, then upload it using the upload file wizard. After you upload it, you can add ] in the place of a page you want to add it to. However, there are very strict copyright standards here, so please read this page before beginning.
2. To become an administrator, you can request it from this page. You may want to read this before you request adminship.
3. Are you talking about wiki markup? If so, this page is a good place to get started.

If you have anymore specific questions, feel free to ask. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

John Ulrich Giesy

I added the death date at http://en.wikipedia.org/John_Ulrich_Giesy and noticed whilst editing that there is information on the EDIT page relating to Otis Kline. I didn't want to remove it, but I don't think it should be there. Collywolly (talk) 06:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

John Ulrich Giesy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

 Fixed It looks like the page creator began with a copy of the Otis Adelbert Kline article, but didn't update the Persondata and Categories at the bottom. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Where should I contest an award of featured article status?

This is what it says on the tin: an article was awarded featured article rank but patently does not deserve it. WP:FAC is run as a one man dominion: one guy calls the the shots and who cares if anyone has a problem? Well I do and one article in particular should be struck down. I admit I haven't been as current as some might expect (I work on oil rigs) but I don't see why that should affect the argument at all. Quantumsilverfish (talk) 06:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

De-listing featured articles is discussed at WP:FAR. Try starting a discussion on the article there. Ks0stm 06:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Detail of "salt" in urdu language

I need help. I was looking for details on the word "Salt" which has a lengthy detail in English language but very short in "Urdu" language. Can I likewise find a detailed information in Urdu. Regards. Muhammad Ahmad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.185.176.231 (talk) 07:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You could read a mechanical Google translation of the English article here. Is that what you want? —teb728 t c 07:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

On This Day 13 October

I want to nominate an entry (Sister Nivedita's death) on October 13's On This Day. How can I do so? Shall I add it directly here: Misplaced Pages:Selected_anniversaries/October? --Tito Dutta ✉ 08:47, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The principles for the choice of entries for "On This Day" are found at each day's talk page e.g. Misplaced Pages talk:Selected anniversaries/October 13 with the FAQ. See in particular "A4: Births and deaths can only be used on centennials, etc. Exceptions can be made if they are directly related to assassinations, executions, natural disasters, civil accidents, genocide/extinction, or other historically significant topics that frequently appear on the Selected Anniversaries pages." On that approach, there is no point in you adding her death to Misplaced Pages:Selected anniversaries/October 13. She is already listed at October 13 and that's the only other place I was going to suggest. Bencherlite 08:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Ya, I just added it in October 13 article. --Tito Dutta ✉ 08:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Libel - Inaccurate entry on Inter City West Coast Entry

The page for Intercity West Coast states that I am one of the three officials suspended at the Department for Transport.

This is untrue and is libellous. Please delete this reference to me from the page.

InterCity West Coast.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.205.93.54 (talk • contribs)

The Telegraph has changed its wording, and the article now reflects that. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

How do I delete my account?

How do I delete my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles.criss (talk • contribs) 13:15, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted but you do have the right to vanish.--ukexpat (talk) 13:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

finding it very difficult to get the page I am creating right

I am finding it very difficult to get the page I am creating right. Misplaced Pages keeps threatening to delete my page even though there are sound references. I am finding it get direct help with creating my page. Is it possible to get 1 on 1 help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisamcgrillis (talk • contribs) 14:13, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Assuming the page in question is Lisa McGrillis, then you need to know that writing autobiographical articles (or contributing to articles about yourself) is very strongly discouraged on Misplaced Pages. The reasons for this are explained at Misplaced Pages:Autobiography. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey there ! I`m Redalert2fan and you might have seen me around "your" article, I do want to help you but you are not responding on your own talk page ((talk) and the article talk page (Talk:Lisa_McGrillis) and we asked some questions there. I recommend you to respond to the question to clarify some stuff. but as I said before I do want to help you. just ask what you want to know on my talk page. ((talk) Redalert2fan (talk) 09:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to respond on my page? I'm finding wikipedia page very difficult to use. Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisamcgrillis (talk • contribs) 15:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

go to your own talkpage and go to the latest section and press edit, then post a reaction under the latest comment Redalert2fan (talk) 16:07, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Porn found on the Morality article

The first link in references section of morality in the media article goes to porn. This is a attack on morality on the media as well as your organization. This is very low blow. Please correct this.

The link is has the name: About Morality in Media at MIM site and points to http://www.moralityinmedia.org/index.htm?aboutUs.htm

Morality in Media (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thank You, Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.120.88.166 (talk) 14:40, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The link goes to a page at the Morality in Media website properly. I suspect that the web page for the organization has been hacked again. (the Misplaced Pages article indicates that it was hacked back in February as well.) You may want to contact the organization to find out if they intend to fix that page, if so, then leave the ref, if not, it should either be designated as a dead link or possibly replaced with an old copy from archive.org.Naraht (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

They've been shut down entirely as of 8:47 CDT. ----Orange Mike | Talk 01:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

The main website is back up; but the link given above is dead. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding a disambiguation page for the name Anne Mortimer

I've been editing this page on Anne Mortimer, Countess of Cambridge:

Anne de Mortimer

On the Talk page of that article someone asked about distinguishing between this Anne Mortimer and the modern British artist and book illustrator, Anne Mortimer. Would this entail creating a stub article on the modern Anne Mortimer, and a disambiguation page? How does one go about creating a disambiguation page? Currently a search for Anne Mortimer automatically redirects to the article on Anne Mortimer, Countess of Cambridge. NinaGreen (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Apparently nobody has yet deemed the artist worth the effort of creating an article about. If you know enough, then create one and title it Anne Mortimer (artist); then put hatnotes on both articles to distinguish them from each other. We don't do disambiguation pages if there are only two notable persons of that name. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I've heard of the artist, and seen some of her work, but I don't know enough about her to create the page, so I'll leave that up to someone who knows more about her. Very useful to learn that there have to be more than two notable persons before a disambiguation page is created. NinaGreen (talk) 17:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a fairly obscure rule (unless you work a lot with dabs). It's also contradictory to the etymology of the word disambiguate; but then, I know better than to commit the etymological fallacy! --Orange Mike | Talk 17:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

endless effort to delete

After reading wike reply, i'm not a child and i'm aware we can't have a page for everyone in the world. yes that's right, i'm not stupid. But when wiki list Kasland on other pages. If he was on Souljaboy's tour ,as wiki shows, then goes on to sell on itunes. And listed on 5 other pages including record release date pages. I'm concerned by the statement from editor ANBU121.. "Its true that Misplaced Pages should ideally be free flow of information. But, accuracy of the information is equally important". I wiki does not consider itself accurate with information it uses on other pages I ask "who at wiki is qualified to edit or judge the creditablity of anyone". This is not an agruement but a valid questioning of the entire wiki network we the puplic support and believe in. Casperjo22 (talk) 02:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages cannot source to itself. We're an encyclopedia, a tertiary source. Some people here are experts on subjects; many are not. We use reliable sources to create reliable articles. We judge the reliability of our sources because an article is only as good as its sources. A source that mentions someone doesn't necessarily prove the notability of that person. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I just looked up the page for KASLAND after buying a song on iTunes. There's a notice his page is under consideration for deletion. Concerned after having purchased Ashland's music and then being told he does not exist. I read the reasons for deletion. They went on forever, every objection the an editor was answered and his objection shown to be false. After looking at the editors page it looks like he's been in violation of wiki rules.

I use wiki to find early life info on individuals I find interesting even if they may have not yet have gold albums. I donate to keep a free flow of info. And if I can look at a wiki page and from there read articles and find interview on the artist. I don't find why there should be a reason to delete his page.

I would like to know why I support a site of free flow information, yet some overzealous editor can endlessly discredit an artist for being young. An artist I went to wiki to find info after purchasing his music. This endless effort by nog, I think is the editor name, does not serve the purpose of a self editing site. Again the artist page is KASLAND. And again I would like to know why continue to donate to an idea that has lost sight of its purpose. Casperjo22 (talk) 20:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Kasland (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch

There aren't reliable sources that prove his notability. I agree with the nomination for deletion. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Its true that Misplaced Pages should ideally be free flow of information. But, accuracy of the information is equally important. That's why there exists many processes and systems, just like the discussion you witnessed. An encyclopedia need not have an article for every person in the world. Misplaced Pages is meant only to reflect and summarize whatever information you could find in reliable sources elsewhere. If a person is not notable by virtue of reliable secondary sources, an article on the person might not be reliable. --Anbu121 (talk me) 20:36, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

this has now peaked my interest in your processes, you reference KASLAND in at least 6 other sites. 3 of which are well known artist. one is a gold disc selling artist. So he is valid on those pages but not on his. Casperjo22 (talk) 02:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

The sources did not prove his notability enough for a stand-alone article. If you can find reliable sources that prove his notability, please feel free to follow the appropriate avenues and stay in line with the policies and guidelines to write an article. WP:YFA and WP:AFC may help you if you have sources and can prove notability. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Hour of last edit

I just read an article that said it was last edited on October 5 (today) at 19:38. Do you use Greenwich Time? 75.5.245.156 (talk) 20:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

All Misplaced Pages time is based on UTC. Dismas| 20:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

But logged in users can set a time zone at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-datetime. This affects times generated by the interface such as your example. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, this gadget can convert other time text (such as date signatures). –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 01:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

American History

Can someone please explain to me the events that led to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand? Here is the link to the article and a picture of Franz Ferdinand: Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylanreed95 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

There is plenty in that article to explain the events leading up to the assassination, starting with the background section. Did you read it? Do you want something more specific? Maproom (talk) 22:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Sybilphd

I can't log in after several tries and it says I did not associate my email with my username, but I did. Now I cant get in! Sybilphd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.185.141 (talk) 22:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

When I go to Special:EmailUser/Sybilphd, I receive a warning message: This user has not specified a valid e-mail address. You created that account several years ago, and you never did anything with it. Why don't you just create a new username? If you still want to use the username "Sybilphd", you won't have to work hard to get it: since the other account has no edits, you could create an account at any other username and then request a username change. You can have your username changed to one that already exists when the existing account has no edits. Nyttend (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Special:Log/Sybilphd shows the account was created 29 May 2007. Are you sure that was you? I wouldn't remember whether I supplied an email address 5 years ago. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

There's also an account User:Sybilphd1 created in October 2011. Did you perhaps create that one instead, when the name you wanted proved to have been taken? It might be worth trying your password on. - Karenjc 10:19, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Removing a deletion tag from an empty category

How does one remove the deletion tag from Category:Unreviewed new articles created via the Article Wizard from October 2012? I'm not going to create an article and ask for review (much less un-review an already-reviewed article!) just to remove the tag. I've looked at {{Monthly cleanup category}}, but that didn't help. Nyttend (talk) 23:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed with . {{Monthly cleanup category}} already tries to determine whether it's the current month and omit the tag in that case, but I guess it uses a string template which fails when the category name is too long. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

October 6

Am I allowed to delete my own post from a Talk page?

The other day I drew the attention of another editor to the fact that what he had written about someone, without any sources, was quite libellous and a breach of WP:BLP.

This editor immediately removed the offending content, so soon after I removed my post, because it now referred to non-existent content.

Unfortunately, by this time, another editor had commented on my post. The first editor insisted on restoring my post because the final post now referred to non-existent content.

A tiny edit skirmish ensued. I gave up.

I can see the logic problem here, but I did not want my post looking silly by referring to non-existent content. Of course, it's still there now, and looks silly.

So, am I entitled to remove a post of my own that no longer makes sense? HiLo48 (talk) 03:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I would just leave a note saying that the problem has been solved. That way people will understand the issue is resolved. If the page is set up to autoarchive by Miszabot, it'll go away on its own anyways. --Jayron32 03:39, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Correct procedure to request additional uninvolved editors take a look at a problematic article

The article has a history of to and fro editing and least one major contributor has been indef blocked for COI promotional editing. Although it has been cleaned up quite lot from when it was purely a puff piece I still think it is far from neutral. Roger (talk) 10:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Letting us know what article you mean would be a good start. Maproom (talk) 12:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I thought there was a specific procedure for such "canvassing". The article is Camus Cognac - don't look at only the article as it is now, take a look at the history too. Thanks. Roger (talk) 13:17, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

There probably is a specific procedure for dealing with "canvassing", I just don't know what it is.

Anyway, I have looked at the article myself. I see three editors, the IP address 62.102.249.36, the single-purpose account User:Misssoleil, and User:Campuscow whose name suggests a Conflict_of_interest, who have been adding the advertising material, User:Athomedia77 who twice blanked the page awaiting "consideration by Camus marketing & legal departments" and has been blocked from editing Misplaced Pages, and a number of experienced editors who have been removing it or toning it down. I have just had a go at this myself, and added the article to my watchlist. Maproom (talk) 10:53, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It's a good feeling when my concerns are validated by someone else. Roger (talk) 11:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of edited information

hello, this is srikanth from warangal(a.p)(india). the previous day i edited some information in wiki of warangal page. but today the edited information is deleted, reasoning that there is no proof for the information added by me. But the entire info which was presented by me is 100% exact one, and i tried to add proof by other informational sources, but there are no web pages or any links about the matter represented by me.... so, please help me.!SRIKANTH9911 (talk) 11:46, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Whether it is 100% true or not is not relevant here - what matters is that it has appeared in a reliable published source. This is called verifiability. If, as you say, there is no published source to confirm the material (on or offline), then it cannot be used in Misplaced Pages. - Karenjc 12:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Srikanth, the main reason your edit was reverted was not lack of proof. It was because the information you added (List of bus services) looked trivial in the context of the article. Misplaced Pages is not a directory. The information could have been summarized in a single sentence by saying that there exists local bus services from warangal to nearby towns. Don't get discouraged by this. As you are from Warangal, you can try to contribute in other areas in which the article lacks like History, Economy. But remember to use reliable sources. --Anbu121 (talk me) 12:37, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

deleting user subpages

Sorry for what I'm sure is a FAQ, but is there a better way of deleting one of your own user subpages than slapping a {{PROD}} tag on it and waiting for an admin to delete it for you? —Steve Summit (talk) 12:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

{{db-author}} should do the job fairly quickly. - Karenjc 12:17, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

{{PROD}} is only for articles. Use {{db-author}} or {{db-u1}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:37, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, both. —Steve Summit (talk) 14:30, 6 October 2012 (UTC) Resolved

Actually {{tl:db-author}} is also meant for articles. To get user pages (such as sandboxes you no longer need) deleted {{tl:db-user}} is the correct tag. Roger (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

{{db-author}} (redirects to {{db-g7}}) is for all namespaces per Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7. {{db-user}} is a redirect to {{db-u1}}. I saw (and deleted) the page Steve tagged. Either tag would have worked in this case. Search the CSD talk archives to see why U1 and G7 aren't merged. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Useful info, thanks. Roger (talk) 17:50, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

About Wiki and for editing knowledge

How to protect or unprotect a page? I want help for the wiki back ground color code. How to delete a page? What are bots or what are their job in wiki?--pratyya (talk) 13:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Only administrators can protect, unprotect and delete pages. See Misplaced Pages:Protection policy, Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection and Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy. Bots are programs making automated or semi-automated edits, usually of a repetitive nature. See Misplaced Pages:Bots. I don't know the default background color code. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

The default skin is Vector. Help:Using colours#Misplaced Pages says: "In the Vector skin, the background colour on all pages is #FFFFFF". PrimeHunter (talk) 13:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Inaccurate data

Within This article: Wealth in the United States

This chart is incorrect. It shows year over year declines in net worth for three years (2000-2003). Using the sited data source there wrer only two yaers and the magnitude of change was an order lower than the author shows.

File:Change in US household wealth 1946-2007.gif — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.114.186 (talk) 13:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

What is your source? We need to see it to make the change.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Breaking up is hard to do

How do I break up a long list of items, listed in 1 column, into 3 or 4 shorter columns?--Doug Coldwell 15:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

A table might help, although tables can be a bit of a pain. See Help:Table If you identify the list in question, we might be able to give more specific advice.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

List in question is List of biblical names.Can it be 3 columns instead of 1? Can you do it using "Template:Multicol". Thanks!--Doug Coldwell 20:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Check if this helps: Template:Div col --Anbu121 (talk me) 15:52, 6 October 2012 (UTC) Yuuuuuuup! Thanks. --Doug Coldwell 19:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Image thought to be copyrighted in the public domain?

Hi there. I was looking through the non-free images that need to be resized when I encountered File:Abieagent073017.jpg. It says the publishing date is sometime in 1917, so I would guess it's in the public domain. I'm not sure what to do about this, and I don't think I'm bold enough to fix this, so I'd just like to notify a more experienced editor who could research this more and take the appropriate action. Sorry if this isn't in the appropriate place. If it isn't, then please post what I should do if I encounter something like this again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Quirky Kitty (talk • contribs) 16:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I have linked the image in your post with ]. A colon in front works for all wikilinks, also category and interlanguage. (No comment on the image itself) PrimeHunter (talk) 17:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The Quirky Kitty (talk) 03:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Article about Udo Kier

There are lots of mistakes in the English article about Udo Kier, also very subjective point of view, no neutral position. For example, it's written that Udo Kier is German actor while he lives and works both in Germany and America since 1991 so he is German and American/Hollywood actor. Also written that he is "known primarily for his work in horror and exploitation movies". Known for whom, I wonder? For horror fans? He did more than 200 films and only very few among them are horror or "exploitation"(by the way, what is "exploitation movie"? it must be "sex exploitation"what is also not true as he did no more than 5-6 films like that). Udo Kier did many serious films. Then there is very offensive quote by the frontman of music band Korn that contains word "fuck" and so on..Then Udo Kier never said that he is homosexual! Is it possible to add him into the "Gay actors" page?? Then he never was "protege" of Fassbinder, it's an old myth, he was discovered in London by another director and did about 10 films before to work with Fassbinder and they were more friends than collegues, Udo did mostly episodes in his films. Then Udo kier play sonly in episodes in Lars von Trier movies after "Europe" film whicj was in early 90s...and many other mistakes! Unfortunatelly, user called "Joshmaul" didn't accept my editing, almost no one change I did. It looks that there is personal hateness towards Udo kier or probably even homophobic. Please help to edite Udo Kier page correctly! For the moment the text of the page based mostly on one old article/review which has nothing to do with reality and was many times disproved by Udo Kier himself in his interviews. I sent links to many interviews with the actor where he says the true about himself but almost nothing was written and accepted by Joshmaul and almost no change done, even in a movie title which I took from IMDB, now there are lots of mistakes! What to do?? Who is "Joshmaul"? Your official editor? How to write true (based on Kier's resent Interviews and IMDB bio) in Wiki????? The interview about his childhood and work with Paul Morrissey (information was not accepted by your editor)

The interview where he talk true about Fassbinder and their relationships! My edits wasn't accepted!

Another interview whre he tells about Fassbinder and how he (Udo Kier) in real came into cinema, about how he made debut!

Almost nothing was accepted by "Joushmaul", he also can't prove am I represent Udo kier or not, and it's not his business at all. i never says that I'm representative myself, I said that some information was passed by his representatives what is true and also it wass their asking to change the article. I can provided you with 50 other articles and interview with Udo Kier which disproved almost all the information in the English wiki article! Besides the article wrote more as a critique that neutral bio and besides the language of it is very poor and even sound as slang..("He has strarred" instead "he played" or "he was in") and so on. Please help!!! Can people edite anything in Wiki or not??? I'm totally into this theme and subject!

This is largely a content dispute. Take it to the talk page and discuss it to reach consensus. But bear in mind:

• Your sources must be reliable (IMDB, for instance, is not.)
• Unsupported accusations of bias and prejudice because someone reverted an edit are unhelpful.
• If you are also editing as User:Playersde, who is currently busy reinserting the removed material back into the article and whose edit summaries resemble some of your arguments above, you need to be careful not to fall foul of Misplaced Pages's rules on using multiple accounts: see WP:SOCK. Discussing and agreeing the new wording would be a better strategy.

_ Karenjc 21:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

You seem to have an incorrect idea of what an exploitation film is: we have an article exploitation film. Also, Misplaced Pages is not censored and it's acceptable to include language such as "fuck" if it's relevant to the topic. And interviews aren't always considered reliable sources: just because somebody says something in an interview, that doesn't mean it's true (even Udo Kier may not always be a reliable source when discussing Udo Kier). You should research these topics so you have a better idea about Misplaced Pages policy and the terms used in the article, and then try and discuss it on the article talk page. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

We don't have "official editors". Just ordinary volunteers. We have administrators who sometimes get involved when things get complicated, as they seem to be in this case, but if you follow the advice above that may not be necessary.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Changing a toolbox link?

Is there any way to make "Upload file" in my toolbox link to Special:Upload or WP:Upload/old instead of the wizard? - Purplewowies (talk) 18:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

This in Special:Mypage/skin.js (your current skin) or Special:Mypage/common.js (all skins) will add a new link "Old upload" above the existing link:

mw.util.addPortletLink(
  'p-tb',
  mw.util.wikiGetlink( 'Misplaced Pages:Upload/old' ),
  'Old upload',
  't-uploadold',
  'Upload files with old form',
   null,
  '#t-upload'
);

You can guess how to get Special:Upload instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Red link should be blue

When copyediting Silvestre de Sousa I tried to wikilink Queen's Vase but couldn't, although the page exists; it links here, and in the edit window of the de Sousa article for the life of me I can't see any extra spaces, misspellings or missing brackets (my usual problems). Although I have much experience with pilot error, this time I can't figure out why it won't work. Any suggestions? Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis (talk) 20:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Please check it now. Some problem with the apostrophe. --Anbu121 (talk me) 20:50, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

You can copy-and-paste the title from the target to ensure a link works. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:09, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much; I never thought to check the apostrophe! All the best, Miniapolis (talk) 13:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Advertising on Misplaced Pages

I'm suddenly seeing ads on Misplaced Pages. One right under the article title, and another right above an article's table of contents. I am NOT happy. I thought Misplaced Pages would never run ads? 98.193.228.251 (talk) 21:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't. What are you seeing? You may want to check your computer for malware/adware. The Computing RefDesk might be able to help you further. - Karenjc

They are not made by Misplaced Pages. See WP:RFAQ#ADS. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

On the last page with ads, the first one was a weight loss ad, and the second was for an online game. I scanned my computer, but didn't find anything. I'll take the question to that RefDesk. Thanks for your help. 98.193.228.251 (talk) 01:32, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

WWE LIST

Is there any list on Misplaced Pages about wrestlers of WWE who have deceased ? 123.201.218.122 (talk) 23:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

User asked the same question that the Ref Desk as well. Should be answered over there. Dismas| 23:13, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

October 7

Templates not wrapping in articles

When I expand a template box like "Batting champions" on Buster Posey's page, the list doesn't wrap on the page, but extends waaay over to the right. This is using Firefox 15.0.1 on Ubuntu. Can I fix this somehow? Thank you for your help.

It looks just fine for me – Safari 6.0.1 on OS X. Sorry, but I don't know what the problem could be. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Everything is fine here too. Firefox 15, Win7. Dismas| 05:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

WP:WikiProject Apple Inc. page is all messed up

Could somebody tell me why all the Misplaced Pages headers/sidebars are tiny and overlapping the page? It only has happened in the last revision, and I can't seem to find anything wrong. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

No idea, but it seems to have been fixed by a purge. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:45, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you – I should have thought of that... –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 06:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Editing

Is there any limit of age in wiki? Is there any thing is counted to become a administrator?Can I upload a file which is modified from a wiki file.How can I (I am not an administrator) can protect my user page from others?--pratyya (talk) 05:41, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

1. For how old you have to be to edit Misplaced Pages? If so, no.
2. There really are no specific requirements, but you might want to read this.
3. What kind of file? A picture or movie? If so, click on the Upload file in the "Toolbox" section on the left side bar.
4. You can't, and you probably shouldn't. But, you can use tools like Twinkle to quickly revert vandalism done to your user page.

–– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:52, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

On #1, a younger editor might find WP:YOUNG of some help. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:06, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Unintentional damaging content while attempting to fix a trivial mistake

I try asking here for i'm new to editing an article and i didn't manage to contact (or even discover) its original authors. The article modified (by me) is the following Dichlorocarbene

I simply noticed a wrong chemical name (dichloroaziridine) for the substance dicholroDIAZIRINE (they are two different substances actually), and I assumed to simply fix it by manually retyping the occurrencies correctly.

For some reason i don't understand, some explanatory text attached to picture is now no longer visible on rendered page, even if i didn't physically cancel it from the source text (perhaps i have corrupted some markup formatting symbol, but i don't know which). I took care not to do that, but it happened nonetheless :-( I dont' know how to contact the authors to apologize or simply inform of this, in order to revert the unwanted change (while keeping the correction). I hope you can give me some advice to solve this problem. Yours sincerely Gatto_Vizzato — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.8.75.145 (talk) 15:06, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think you screwed up any formatting symbol. I can see from this diff that you have changed only the spelling. The explanation of the picture has been formatted as a reference note. It was in the form of a reference note even before you edited the page. Any text between <ref> and </ref> will appear at the bottom of the article in the references section. --Anbu121 (talk me) 15:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but just to clarify, you do mean the note for the diagram captioned "Dichlorocarbene from dichlorodiazirine" that begins "a) Starting from phenol reaction with cyanogen bromide to phenyl cyanate..."? It seems to be displaying ok now. Is it still not working for you? If so, perhaps we need to get the wizards in the basement experts at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical) to have a look, as I can't see how the simple changes you've made should affect the page in such a way. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

deletions of alternate covers

Will inclusions of alternate covers never be allowed on wikipedia? recently I have seen thousands of album covers are deleted, such as this mass deletion (See September 2012 section). Puramyun31 (talk) 17:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

The images you refer to have been deleted because (in the views of the editor recommending deletion and the admin confirming deletion) copyright law forbids Misplaced Pages to use them. I guess we would all like them to be used here, but an organisation as visible as Misplaced Pages can't really get round obeying the law. Maproom (talk) 21:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Burton

I created an article about Graeme Burton in my sandbox. Someone accepted the article but set it up as a redirect. How do I remove the article from my sandbox without destroying the article?Offender9000 18:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Burton was moved to an independent page on August 29. User:Offender9000/sandbox redirects to it. Edit that page (click on the link where it says "(Redirected from User:Offender9000/sandbox)", and delete the text "#REDIRECT Graeme Burton". Rojomoke (talk) 18:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Space before text

In the article Mario Forte the initial letters of each paragraph have been indented by two small spaces. Spaces at the beginning of a line always used to produce a dotted box going off the right hand side of the page, and still does, if I try to replicate this. What is different about this in Mario Forte? (I know the article needs a mass clean-up, but I have not done this, in case it disturbs the formatting) Arjayay (talk) 18:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't see any spaces in the article or the source text. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Neither do I and this "article" is a promo Cv hack job only referenced to the subjects website! Do they even meet WP:GNG? FYI, the article creator and only early editor, — Kouriart (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. CaptainScreebo 19:42, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Always be specific when you report something like this. You say "each paragraph" but I doubt it's all of them. The article has a little variation in the Unicode characters between paragraphs. It's not spaces. Maybe some of the paragraphs are displayed like they have one or two spaces in your browser but not in my Firefox. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

what do i do if ppl change to an unclear verison?

what do i do if ppl change to an unclear verison? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 19:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, first you start by being clear about what article you're talking about and what's with the "unclear" version. CaptainScreebo 19:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

all of them they all got changed and the person say to leave a msg on they talk page but doesnt respond. just changes back to the unclear version — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 20:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean "all of them"? Somebody has changed all 4 million articles? I think not. Please tell us which article(s) you are talking about. --ColinFine (talk) 22:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

He means all of his edits to articles are being reverted to a version he believes is not a clear explanation. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:28, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

He has also asked this question at the Teahouse. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

this problem is still a problem jsut to let anyone that has solutions thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 10:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

If this is an example of what you mean, then I can see the problem. You removed a sourced definition, along with its reference, and replaced it with a simplistic example which is unsourced, inaccurate, and presumably your own work. You may have made the wording simpler, but I'm afraid it did not improve the article's quality or accuracy. I can see similar issues with some of your other edits. Yes, some Misplaced Pages articles are written in complicated technical language, and making these more accessible to a lay reader is a good idea, but not at the expense of accuracy, and certainly not by removing sourced material and replacing it with unsourced material. If your changes to an article are challenged, the next step is to discuss the wording on the article's talk page and try to reach consensus. I see you have discounted the possibility of editing the Simple English Misplaced Pages, but if your interest is in simplifying the language in articles wherever possible, that project might well benefit from your assistance. - Karenjc 11:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

this is impossible to follow, there's so much clutter, im unfollowing this and using this help page anymore, pls just leave a tag on my page or comment so i know someone replied with solutions to this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 11:47, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Categorisation

I find the categorisation help pages utterly incomprehensible. What about "A category page is a page in the "Category:" namespace." Pretty good, hey? Has anyone got any simple guidance where to find how to do this? I don't mean the tags, I mean how to determine what the categories are for my article? Afterbrunel (talk) 20:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages has hundreds of thousands of categories. Misplaced Pages:Categorization#Categorizing pages has some tips on how to find suitable categories for an article. For example, find similar articles and see which categories they are in. For Bristol and Gloucestershire Railway, an obvious article to examine is Bristol and Gloucester Railway. Category:Industrial railways in England also seems suitable for a mineral railway. You can search the category namespace at (use the search box below the big "Search" heading). PrimeHunter (talk) 21:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Your advice is greatly appreciated; but I am not sure it resolves the issue. I went to the link you suggested, and it doesn't tell me how to choose a category. (Incidentally it has separate sections for Categorising Articles and Categorising Pages. This is frankly unintelligible.) You suggest a category for an article I have had a hand in, (thanks!) but why do we select that category particularly? Why not "Transportation in Western Europe", or "Mineral Extraction Ancillary Activities" or "Practical uses for horses" or "The Industrial Revolution in Gloucestershire" or "New transport links opened in 1824"?? After all, I seek the information "Why ... ?" so that I can do it on my own next time.Afterbrunel (talk) 15:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

The main purpose of categories is to group together pages on similar subjects. You should find existing categories and not invent new category names. Existing categories can be found with the mentioned methods. If you try to add a non-existing category like Category:The Industrial Revolution in Gloucestershire instead of for example Category:Rail transport in Gloucestershire then the category link at the bottom of the page will be red and not lead to pages on similar subjects. It's possible to create new categories but there are various guidelines and conventions for this. I don't recommend trying it until you are more familiar with the category system. For example, Category:The Industrial Revolution in Gloucestershire sounds too narrow with insufficient potential for growth with other articles. A search shows there are only two categories in all of Misplaced Pages with "Industrial Revolution" in the name.

Misplaced Pages has many namespaces for pages of different types, for example articles like Bristol and Gloucestershire Railway, user pages like User:PrimeHunter, and help pages like Help:Category. The lead of Misplaced Pages:Categorization#Categorizing pages covers all namespaces. Misplaced Pages:Categorization#Articles is a subsection only covering articles. Later subsections cover some other namespaces. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Another method to find existing categories is to start with a broad category and look for subcategories. For example, Category:Gloucestershire contains Category:History of Gloucestershire, but no further subcategory for the industrial revolution. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

how can you easiely see what is inside an edit, like when you have a reply on help, how can i see if it was for me or not?

how can you easiely see what is inside an edit, like when you have a reply on help, how can i see if it was for me or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 20:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

If a user edits a particular section (in this case – your question), the section will show up on the revision history of the page.

This page discusses the revision page, and look at how the edit summary has →Section title.

–– Anonymouse321 (talk) 21:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, you can turn on Navigation Popups. Go to My Preferences > Gadgets > Browsing > Navigation Popups. Then if the page is on your watch list, you can hover over the link to the diff and see if the change is something that you want to click and investigate. Dismas| 00:02, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

but... that is not easy -- 1) the navigation thing is better but it doesnt help with like the help page, there's so much stuff 2) the teahouse just puts a tag on your page you know — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 10:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

this is impossible to follow, there's so much clutter, im unfollowing this and using this help page anymore, pls just leave a tag on my page or comment so i know someone replied with solutions to this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 11:47, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Statistics

Hello,

I wonder if there is any possbility to get any statistics on how many displays a certain graphic has had that I have submitted?

Here are my contributions: http://commons.wikimedia.org/search/?title=File:Green_Peace_Heart.svg&page=1 http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Peace_button_large.png http://commons.wikimedia.org/search/?title=File:Peace_button.svg&page=1

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.144.98.179 (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

This help page is for the English-language version of Misplaced Pages, and those images are on Commons, so this isn't really the right place to ask. But if you look at those pages you have listed, you will see near the bottom of each a list of the pages which use them. Maproom (talk) 22:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

...and then you can find out how many people have viewed those pages: Misplaced Pages:Pageview statistics. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:39, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Exhilar Innovative Solutions

<<<advertising removed>>> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.217.240.40 (talk) 23:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

What does this have to do with Misplaced Pages? –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

October 8

music &etc

How to find song lyric? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.26.233 (talk) 04:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Google or your favorite search engine. Or the Reference Desk. RudolfRed (talk) 04:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Use a search engine such as Google. When I look for lyrics, I normally start my search with the word "lyrics" followed by whatever I know which might be just a few words of the lyrics or possibly the artist name and song title. But you won't find too many lyrics on Misplaced Pages since they're almost always copyrighted. Dismas| 06:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

And not all of the sites you will find actually have permission to put the song lyrics online. As Misplaced Pages editors, we take pride in the fact that our encyclopedia is free content that anyone can copy and improve. If we discover someone has added copyrighted material (including copyrighted song lyrics) to our site without permission, we quickly remove it unless we are sure our use is legal. We don't even allow linking to the infringing sites. PleaseStand (talk) 06:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

See also Misplaced Pages:Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

CSD log going awol

User:Valenciano/CSD log the last auto addition caused a load of entries to disappear. How to fix? Valenciano (talk) 07:28, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I've restored most of the missing content by undoing the bad edit and re-adding the newest entry. The line describing Visa iskcon didn't get saved, so if you want to remember that you will have to edit it in manually. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Looking for talk page template when F5ing non-free image

Is there a specific talk page template to notify the uploader when F5ing an image? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Orphaned seems fit for this purpose. Klilidiplomus+Talk 08:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:41, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Morgan horse: rendering error

I don't know the right place to report this.

In the article Morgan horse, everything from the last sentence of the third paragraph onwards is rendered in boldface. The tabs at the top ("Edit", "View History", etc.) are also affected. I have checked this in three different browsers. The misrendering starts within the template "14.1 to 15.2 hands (57 to 62 inches, 145 to 157 cm)". There was no problem before the most recent edit, made by ZéroBot. Its edit did not affect that template, or the paragraph containing it; it merely added a category.

I had hoped to fix the problem myself, but I am mystified. Maproom (talk) 08:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I made a null edit to the page and that seems to have fixed it. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 09:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Such a simple tool, such a powerful result. I look forward to finding another opportunity to use it. :-) Maproom (talk) 11:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit an article heading

I have recently created a new article, how do I edit the article heading? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dward348 (talk • contribs) 09:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

The page is called "Jcb insurance services", I would like to change it to "JCB Insurance Services Ltd". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dward348 (talk • contribs) 09:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I have moved it for you. I would point out that as it stands, the article is likely to be deleted, as (among other things) it does not give evidence of the company's notability. Maproom (talk) 09:12, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

... and the previous version of the article had been deleted in August for the same reason, as you were notified on your talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Proceudre for opening a new wiki page for my company.

I want to open a new wiki page for my company. What is the procedure for the same? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.181.149.113 (talk) 10:19, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

You can do that through Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation, but please read this document completely before proceeding. --Anbu121 (talk me) 10:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

See also Misplaced Pages:FAQ/Organizations. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

una america

We are just una america lies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.164.69.81 (talk) 11:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, just una america lies, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. Do you have a question for us about how to use the site or find your way around? - Karenjc

I have other pictures

I have other pictures of Registerd Historic Sites that I would like to upload, however, the upload link to the site(s) is no longer available. How can I upload these figures to the proper historic site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blastoids (talk • contribs) 14:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your uploads seen at commons:Special:Contributions/Blastoids. Submissions for the Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 competition ended September 30 but you are more than welcome to upload additional images outside the competition. Pages at http://commons.wikimedia.org always have an "Upload file" link under "Participate" in the left pane. I didn't participate in the competition but I think you get an upload interface more resembling the competition by instead selecting your country at commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments upload. You can find general information about Commons at commons:Help:Contents, and ask questions at commons:Commons:Help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Deletions by the Uniformed

After being a part of the Wiki community for many years I am finding it more difficult to understand how "Administrators" can use absolute power to delete pages they "feel" are not worthy of Wiki presence. I have been the author of a Wiki presence for a small technically forward software company. I have found that those that deleted the presence have no technical background to make a determination of relevance. The company listing - Stone Bond Technologies - had also gone through editorial review, which I find n=more disturbing in that after the review it was again deleted by people not even associated with the review. This has got to stop as there seem to be a few very power hungry people without perspective and knowledge determining the speech rights of the masses or contributors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.104.60.30 (talk) 14:19, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Stone Bond Technologies where the correct procedure was followed and the consensus reached determined that the article failed to show that the subject met the notability standards for companies. Process on Misplaced Pages is impersonal, your remarks about individual participants in the process are unacceptable. As far as I can see they followed the correct procedure and applied the policies correctly. Roger (talk) 14:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

... also see the declined AFC at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Stone Bond Technologies. It won't have helped that the article was being written by someone with a conflict of intersst, so was written in a promotional manner. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There is no "speech right" on Misplaced Pages, and Misplaced Pages doesn't host "presences" or publish "listings". It's an encyclopaedia, and it contains articles about subjects that are notable. Expert knowledge is not a requirement for editing, because Misplaced Pages is a tertiary source that uses only material that has been previously published in a reliable source. Stone Bond Technologies was first deleted on 25 August, having been proposed for deletion because of its promotional tone and failure to assert notability. It was restored on 13 September when the proposal was contested, and it was then discussed at WP:Articles for deletion. Here is the deletion discussion, which was closed as delete and salt. Any administrator could then delete it as part of their housekeeping duties, and one duly did. Other articles under the title Stone bond technologies have also been deleted as promotional and failing to demonstrate notability in 2007 and 2009. Someone clearly wants there to be a Misplaced Pages article about this company, but appears incapable of producing any sourced evidence that the company satisfies the general notability guideline or the notability criteria for companies. If such evidence is produced, then there can be an article about this company on Misplaced Pages, although it cannot now be recreated without going through the review process. Without it, the article just does not belong on Misplaced Pages. - Karenjc 14:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Unknown account

So, I decided to come back to Misplaced Pages. I had left due to an extremely negative experience with a moderator. When I requested my login details, I was given not one, but two account names! This account, and one named Speedhash1780. Considering that it's against the rules to have more than one account(sockpuppetry), how do I deactivate/delete/remove the other account? NealCruco (talk) 14:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Accounts can be blocked from editing, and be renamed, but not deleted. Special:Contributions/Speedhash1780 shows no edits and Special:Contributions/NealCruco only shows your post here. Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry doesn't disallow having multiple accounts if they are unused for editing (there are other circumstances where it's also permitted). Which account had the negative experience? And does "Unknown account" mean you didn't create one of the linked accounts? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't remember creating Speedhash1780. And I may have had it when I was unregistered, but I was sure it was on this account. NealCruco (talk) 16:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Speedhash1780 was created 14 months ago, see Special:CentralAuth/Speedhash1780. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

creating columns

i am sorry for the silly question, but i am trying to create columns on my talk page, and they work ok, it's just that i get the following "| align="left" valign="top" |" after each one. how can i fix this? thank you! oh, i'm using the col-begin, col-break, and col-end. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Simply a missing hyphen. {{colbegin}} is not the same as {{col-begin}}. I've corrected it for you. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

... and it wasn't on your talk page, but on your user page. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Don't be sorry for asking the question - that is the purpose of this page. Roger (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

seeking information/data on early history of page protection

Hello -- as part of a large-scale study of emergent phenomena in human social systems, I am trying to determine the role of protection/semi-protection in the creation of consensus and the resolution of disputes. I posted this question at the talk page for "Protection Policy" last week, but thought to ask here in case someone might be able to point me to a good resource or contact.

I have been trying to determine the protection status of pages before around 12/2005, when the Protection Logs start providing edit=autoconfirmed/edit=sysop information in the edit summary. Prior to 12/2005 it is hard to determine when a page is edit or move protected, and it is also hard to determine, if it is edit protected, what the level of that protection amounts to (e.g., sysop only, autoconfirmed, etc.) For example, the GWB log shows a number of cases where an editor is listed protecting a page, but examination of the edit history around that time shows that anonymous IPs still are able to edit.

Is there any reliable source of information on what the exact status of a particular page was before 12/2005? Perhaps (e.g.) records might have been kept on a separate server, or may be accessible in ugly but machine-readable form?

Also, is there any reliable source of information as to what a protection meant for users in this period?

Finally, can anyone point me to a good contact for questions of this sort? (Largely technical questions about details of Misplaced Pages policies, and requests for access to archival data on site functioning.)

Many thanks for any help; you may contact me on my talk page, or here, as you please! Dedeo sfi (talk) 15:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki did not have a "semi-protection" feature (which was added in version 1.6) before December 22, 2005. Move protection did exist in MediaWiki 1.4, but that version of the software did not add distinguishing information to the log. Also, pre-1.6 move protection worked differently, applying to the newest 1% of accounts instead of just those created within the last four days. I think the additional ten-edit threshold was added even later. See bugzilla:675, bugzilla:1735, and mw:Special:Code/MediaWiki/12207.

However, I'm not in a position to explain any discrepancy between the protection log (which in fact was originally maintained manually) and the actual article status; you may want to ask further questions at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical), and for open access research, you may request technical support from the Wikimedia Foundation; see m:Research:Committee and m:Research:FAQ. PleaseStand (talk) 20:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this detailed response, PleaseStand; this is very helpful, both directly for the work I'm doing, and as a pointer to additional sources of information. Cheers! Dedeo sfi (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Help with colour tables, with headings

Hi team,

Im trying to create four boxes that are in a block formation. I have tried two and get them fairly even but when i duplicate the code it put them in column order.

they need to be even, top lef, top right, bottom left and bottom right. I am trying to put colour in and its proving difficult.

the blue one on the right looks good, nice and clear, formatted etc, but i cant get the rest

ive looked on the FAQ's but i cant find anything like this. Help!

-- unsigned entry by 80.79.208.19 (talk) 8 October 2012‎

I'm afraid interleaving wiki code for tables with HTML <div>—</div> tags is not a good idea. Not sure if that is a source of your problems, anyway would suggest to try enclosing every <div> entirely in its own table's cell...
Here's my approach:

Hope that would be helpful somehow... --CiaPan (talk) 19:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Covers/Images on Music Pages

When editing music pages there is a box that is on the left with artist information. I am creating an album page for an artist and I cannot figure out how to put the cover/image in it. It always shows up as a website. Is there any directions or tutorials on it because I can't find anything. Thank you, ukiss2ne14lyfe

Images cannot be displayed directly from a url. The image needs to be uploaded to Misplaced Pages. You can use the Misplaced Pages:File Upload Wizard. But please read Misplaced Pages:Image use policy before proceeding. --Anbu121 (talk me) 18:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Inclusion Standards / Reliable Sources

My article was declined by editor Spartaz who is no longer an admin and is therefore unable to help me with my article.

It was declined because I needed to provide two detailed independent reliable sources that discuss the subject in detail.

I included six Misplaced Pages references where my content is quoted and eight Religious Tolerance references where my content is quoted, which I believe fulfills the requirements as per your link to "inclusion standards" and "reliable sources".

Obviously I am missing something. I would appreciate any help in getting this article "Christian Gays" accepted. Thank you.

http://ChristianGays.com (talk) 17:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)ma3ry

Ask Spartaz directly. He can help you with this, because it isn't an administrator action. --Jayron32 18:01, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

One doesn't have to be a Misplaced Pages administrator to review article submissions. By "admin actions", Spartaz is referring to blocking users, deleting or protecting articles, etc., none of which apply in your case. PleaseStand (talk) 18:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

At present the article Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Christian Gays does not contain one single inline reference, and in particular does not reference the multiple independent reliable sources which need to have covered it in depth in order for it to pass the criterion of notability. Without this, the article is not acceptable. --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

changes

I added some material to the Long John Nebel bio, but I can't find out how to "summarize" it... Where and how do I do this? And how do I send this present text? By clicking on "Save Page"? That doesn't make any sense...

I regularly edit my own Misplaced Pages data, with no such problems!

(Just after sending this, I received a note telling me NOT to give my email address...!)

James Randi <e-mail address (Redacted)> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.228.118 (talk) 18:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean an "edit summary"? It gets written in a box that appears below the edit window. You just write a description of what your edit changes. (It appears in the history to help people determine which edit did what without looking at each diff.) The is an option that lets you request to be notified if you forget to enter an edit summary (if you get the warning I believe you can just click save again and it won't warn you a second time.) RJFJR (talk) 18:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

See more at Help:Edit summary. The option RJFJR refers to is only for logged in users. Misplaced Pages uses the same software for articles and discussions so yes, you press "Save page". We give help for most matters in public so others can see the discussion and contribute to it. I think we give ample warning about the email issue. The top of this help desk says: "Do not provide your email address or any other contact information. Answers will be provided on this page only." The top of the edit window also says in red: "do not provide your email address or any other contact details". The first time you press "Save page" with an email address you see this message which includes: "If you still wish to continue with your edit, you may hit "Save page" again below, and it will be submitted as is." Your email address was saved so you must have hit Save page again without removing the address. Another editor removed it. This is a very public page and an email address here can cause problems such as spammers sending you junk mail. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Deleting Empty Pages

Hello Wikipedian,

I would like to know why the charts in the NATO phonetic alphabet article Nato phonetic alphabet have so many empty pages print in the printed version. Is there any way you or the user can delete them and still have the pages numbered correctly?

GT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtingreenbelt (talk • contribs) 19:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

If you have Internet Explorer then see Help:Printable#Blank pages in Internet Explorer. There may still be issues with some pages. Can you try another browser? The print preview may reveal in advance whether you will get blank pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Are Op-Eds OR?

I'm having a discussion with two more experienced editors in which I'm told that an Op-Ed piece, labeled by the newspaper as "opinion," written by a founder of the group being written about and an advisory board member of the same group, is not OR. If I'm correct in believing that primary sources, as authors, constitute incorporation of OR, how does one go about getting the matter settled properly? The discussion is at the NORNB under Second Vermont Republic. Thanks. Vttor (talk) 19:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Facts, opinions, and ideas that have previously been published in reliable sources (including primary sources) are not original research in themselves. Original research arises when Misplaced Pages editors combine or synthesize the information to form new facts, opinions, or ideas, which Misplaced Pages policy forbids. In the case you mentioned, a Misplaced Pages editor had observed that another source quoted the op-ed yet did not specifically cite it. The editor did not cite a published source to back up his observation, which is original research. You should find (and cite) a reliable source that actually makes the comparison or help build a consensus for separately mentioning (or even not mentioning) Sanford's arguments, which is what Carolmooredc proposed. You may wish to refer to WP:PRIMARY. PleaseStand (talk) 21:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

My book seems to be frozen

My Book The Sacredness of Being seems to be frozen. Please advise Fred wage--Fredwage (talk) 20:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I see you are editing both User:Fredwage/Books/The Sacredness of Being and Book:The Sacredness of Being. What do you mean by "frozen"? Does it stop at some point when you click one of the download links? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

About the donation I made.

Hi. I recently tried to donate 5 dollar to wikipedia. During the process, it said that wikipedia cannot accept my credit card as donation. So I was like 'maybe next time'. But when I checked my transaction record, it said that I donated to Misplaced Pages when 5 dollar was deducted. I was wondering if you guys got the donation. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.202.203 (talk) 22:02, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

This Help Desk is monitored by editors who are volunteers. You need to contact the Wikimedia Foundation to check whether the donation was received. Thank you for your donations. --Anbu121 (talk me) 22:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Winster.com

The deletion log for Talk:Winster.com says it is for regrettably inappropriate use of the talk page. How can I retrieve the deleted page, and how can I find out what was inappropriate about it? Ddrhl (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

You need to contact the administrator who deleted it, DragonflySixtyseven in this case. --Anbu121 (talk me) 22:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Annotated picture

Hi, what is the technique used to create the annotations at

http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Volcanoes_Panorama_at_Lanzarote.jpg

?

86.160.83.247 (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Please see Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator. --Anbu121 (talk me) 23:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Check this page out. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. 86.160.83.247 (talk) 00:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

October 9

Correcting an error on the "Portal:Australian cars" page

The above page includes an image of a Holden LJ Torana incorrectly captioned as a Holden LC Torana. I have tried to correct this without success. What's the secret please? GTHO (talk) 02:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Many portal pages have randomly changing elements. When you saw it at Portal:Australian cars you could probably have clicked a small "edit" link in the corner of the box where it was displayed. Are you referring to Portal:Australian cars/Selected picture/31? PrimeHunter (talk) 03:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

That's the one! Now fixed. Thanks. GTHO (talk) 02:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Image and Unblocking

How to unblock a blocked account? Can I use image from another website by getting permission from that site?--pratyya (talk) 03:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

How to unblock a blocked account depends on why the account got blocked. If the account was blocked for disruptive editing, the owner would have to convince admins that if the block was lifted, the disruptive editing would end. We might be able to reply more specifically if you said what the block was about.

Since Misplaced Pages has a goal of producing reusable content, we don’t accept permission for use only on Misplaced Pages. But if the copyright owner is willing to permission for reuse by anyone for anything, see WP:COPYREQ for how to handle that permission. —teb728 t c 04:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

It's worth noting that the "other website" often does not, in fact, hold the copyright to the image and may itself be using the image in violation of copyright. In such a case, any "permission" from the people behind the site is useless. Deor (talk) 14:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The block is about uploading non-free file --pratyya (talk) 08:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

When an account is blocked, the templates used by the blocking admin normally contain instructions to the user on how to request an unblock. See Misplaced Pages:APPEAL, which explains the process in detail. - Karenjc 10:03, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Need help with article List of states in the Holy Roman Empire

Hi all, I have added a comment in the talk page of this article but a lot of similar comments have gone unsanswered. Basically I don't understand what the article is about. It begins with a general understanding of History and states but then moves to topics related to nazism etc. Can someone read this article and explain to me more about the topiv, please? -Wikishagnik (talk) 04:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't see anything about Naziism. The page looks fine, and the tagbombing you've done doesn't seem justified here. The page itself is an introduction to the list: there were quite literally many thousands of states in the HRE as taken over the total 800+ year history of it, and the page lays out what those states were in general terms: the actual list has been split off into alphabetical subpages because it would be too unweildy to keep in one place, so you can find the actual lists at pages like List of states in the Holy Roman Empire (A) and following; those are navigable from the box at the top of the article you linked. --Jayron32 04:41, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

OH!!! I get your confusion. You're confusing the Holy Roman Empire with the Roman Empire. I get it. The Holy Roman Empire was an entity that existed in Central Europe (essentially Modern Germany extended out a few hundred miles in all directions) from the late 10th to the 19th century AD. It has no real historical connection to the Roman Empire which existed from AD 27 - late 5th century (in the west) or - late 15th century (in the East). They're two completely unrelated entities. In the early years, the Holy Roman Empire acted like any other feudal kingdom in Europe: It was basically the Kingdom of Germany (and other states, I know, it also controlled Northern Italy, Bohemia, Provence, etc. But it was always a German state in its hierarchy). As time went on, a series of events reduced the Empire to a purely nominal existences, the supposed "vassals" that made up the Empire became effectively independent states. --Jayron32 04:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Understood, however isn't the article deviating too much from the topic? The MOS (WP:MOS) gives a very simple idea of what a list should be. Shouldn't this article be split into seperate articles for the list, glossary, philosophy etc. listed in the page? -Wikishagnik (talk) 05:08, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

If the list were short enough for one page, shouldn't any relevant glossary be on the same page?

The "philosophy" section, as you call it, addresses (perhaps too obliquely) the question of what belongs on the list. Because of the vague and changing nature of the Empire, disagreements are inevitable over what to count as member states. It would be misleading not to discuss such questions. —Tamfang (talk) 05:35, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Can I use a public domain picture in wikipedia?

Hello. I'm Heewon Cho, an editor of a publishing company in South Korea. I have read the FAQ about copyright, but still have a question. We are now preparing to translate and publish a book originally written in USA, and the original book contains an image that is from Misplaced Pages.

The publishing company in USA(InterVarsity Press) says that since the image is public domain(its copyright has expired in the United States), they just informed Wekipedia that they are going to use the image in their book.

So can we use the image also in the translated book? the image is 'The Incredulity of Saint Thomas(Caravaggio)' File:Caravaggio incredulity.jpg

We are always grateful for your amazing information.

We will wait for your answer then. Have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.85.252.114 (talk) 06:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

It is indeed in the public domain - most likely worldwide, I'm not aware of any country that has 400+ year copyright terms - so you can use it freely. Roger (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

"Brant House" difficulties

I recently created a page for Brant House as something was required to bring together several disparate articles mentioned this so-called author.. When looking for references to this "House name" I found that 2 pages relating to Ace Books, List of Ace titles in first DGS series and List of Ace single volumes have similar content, but do not exactly cover the same ground. I don't know how to deal with this. Furthermore, I am not sure where to go with the Brant House article as my "references" are the other pages at Misplaced Pages that I have referred to amd I don't know what categories, etc. to apply to the article.Collywolly (talk) 07:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Eshmunazar Article - Font Problem

I contacted the Misplaced Pages E-mail address to "Report a Problem." They said it was probably a "browser problem" and could best be helped by you. See Misplaced Pages "Eshmunazar" Article; scroll down to "Original Inscription" supposedly in Phoenician script. My screen shows hundreds of little boxes instead of characters for the 34 line Inscription. I am in Munich, Germany. A colleague in the USA gets the same results. The correct inscription facimile is contained in the Spanish cross reference (in blue)at the bottom of the Misplaced Pages Article: after clicking on that you are in a .pdf document in Spanish -- just scroll on down to page 13. And, "voila," there is what should be up in the "Original Inscription" section. Now how to get it there, legally ?Franklin Paladin (talk) 08:27, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

It looks good to me. Most likely you (and your colleague) don't have a font installed that has the relevant range of Unicode (10900 – 1091B). Try Quivira. —Tamfang (talk) 08:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I downloaded Quivira and passed it over to the Font file C:Windows/Fonts and it's verifiedas being in there but no success on the Boxes.Franklin Paladin (talk) 09:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The string "Original Inscription" only occurs in the section Eshmunazar#Hebrew transcription which displays fine for me. If you refer to Eshmunazar#Original Phoenician text (the last section before references; the section heading may be hidden behind File:Eshmunazar transcription.pdf), then it's also boxes for me. Here is the first line:

1. 𐤁𐤉𐤓𐤇 𐤁𐤋 𐤁𐤔𐤍𐤕 𐤏𐤎𐤓 𐤅𐤀𐤓𐤁𐤏 14 𐤋𐤌𐤋𐤊𐤉 𐤌𐤋𐤊 𐤀𐤔𐤌𐤍𐤏𐤆𐤓 𐤌𐤋𐤊 𐤑𐤃𐤍𐤌

I haven't tried to download a font which can display it but see Help:Special characters#Ancient scripts. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Dear Prime Hunter. As usual, you are "right on" and have displayed the area that I and my colleague are having trouble with. I had downloaded a Quivira 3.8 file of 1.6 MB and at his stated 10,343 characters the file I downloaded seems a bit small to contain so many Fonts. I'm still up a tree. My computer is only 1 year old --- a H-P Presario CQ56 --- I can't imagine why your Esmunazar Article uses a font that the majority of Computer users does not have (unless they download it). I followed all the suggested links Help:Special characters#Ancient scripts and get boxes there as well as in the Misplaced Pages Phoenician Article as well as in the Unicode section of commercial Fonts available from Alan what's his name I'll try Google Chrome. But, what next Coach? Franklin Paladin (talk) 14:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I tried using Google Chrome as my browser but to no avail -- still boxes 80.226.24.9 (talk) 14:35, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I fired up my character map and switched to Unicode to search for an individual numbered character - again no dice - it, would you believe it ?(the prompt mask) limits you to 4 digits in Unicodes -- five (5) digit codes have been out on the streets for years ! Franklin Paladin (talk) 14:47, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The article is about an ancient Phoenician inscription so it seems natural to include it in Phoenician even if most browsers cannot display it. They can still see it in several other languages. People who actually know Phoenician can probably also display it in their browser. And unlike an image, the text is available for copy-pasting. You can for example copy-paste to the "Characters" field at http://rishida.net/tools/conversion/ and click "View names". This will give you images and names of the characters. The bottom of Phoenician alphabet says it has a link to a Unicode Phoenician font. I have no use for it and will not experiment with it PrimeHunter (talk) 15:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Dear Prime Hunter. Thanks for your help and endless patience. I have now downloaded and installed 3 different Fonts each including their version of Phoenician. One even includes a keyboard layout in the ZIP file. All to no avail because when in get in Misplaced Pages, I can't call up the Character map and my browser won't interpret the code of each box. Well no matter, I already have a facimile(.pdf) of the inscription in question in an hourglass shape (as on the top of the sarcophagus)and would offer to paste it into your article, except it's so old that it's Copyright and permission to use would be questionable. It matches exactly the the correct inscription facimile as contained in the Spanish cross reference (in blue) at the bottom of the Misplaced Pages Article, so I know it's authentic. End of Topic and tips. Thanks for the lift.Franklin Paladin (talk) 16:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Mobile wikipedia

I am experiencing a problem using wikipedia on mobile phones. I am now only getting subject headings which when selected do not open up the relevant text. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.144.73 (talk) 09:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Try asking at the Village Pump. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 13:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Failed to donate

I tried to donate- but this came on the screen when I entered my security code " Not Found The requested object does not exist on this server. The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it." Sorry! I do wish to support Wiki.You are doing a fantastic job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Launderette (talk • contribs) 09:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your support. I hope you were at the domain https://donate.wikimedia.org where donations are made. This help desk is manned by volunteer editors without inside access to the donation system. There is an email address at https://wikimediafoundation.org/Problems_donating/en. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Concerning 'Notes' (or 'References') section in article

When citing the same references several times, how do I avoid the automated reference generator making the references as a new one?

Ex.

==Header==
Writing about the topic Writing about the topic Writing about the topic <ref>ABCD<ref/> ... ... ...
==New header==
Writing about the topic Writing about the topic Writing about the topic <ref>ABCD<ref/>
... ... ...
==References==
1 ABCD
2 ABCD

Article for which helpo is needed: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Henrik_Wen%C3%B8e&action=edit

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesperbp (talk • contribs) 10:34, 9 October 2012‎

You can read about this at WP:REFNAME. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I usually run the WP:REFLINKS tool. It also takes bare URL references and applies properly formatted cite templates. Roger (talk) 11:25, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

LAN connection facilities not available

I would like to inform you about LAN connection facilities ,which is not available in two system i.e. Desk 1 and Desk 3. So kindly,send me the contact person detail for rectification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.56.254.114 (talk) 11:03, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 PrimeHunter (talk) 11:06, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Rijeka Tourist Board - problems editing article on the City of Rijeka

Dear Sir/Madam, we are writing to you in relation to Misplaced Pages's article on the City of Rijeka (Rijeka). As Rijeka Tourist Board we are trying to keep online information on Rijeka as accurate and up to date as possible. We tried to add some new information in the current article on two occasions, but after some time the text we entered got rejected. We succeeded to do the same thing on WikiTravel article on Rijeka, but had no luck on Misplaced Pages. The message we received is that our edits were promotional in tone and highly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. We guess the main problems were links made to our webpage, but our intention was not to promote the page itself, but to provide more quality information on Rijeka. Although the article is excellently written and really informative, we tried to add more information on Rijeka's main sights, because that section is deficient compared to others. Also, we would like to change main link to the website that now leads to Rijeka's City pages, which is oriented more on citizens of Rijeka (with city councils, municipal institutions etc.), and put the one that leads to Rijeka Tourist Board pages (http://www.tz-rijeka.hr/en/), which are more suitable and informative for visitors. We would like to ask for your assistance on this matter. Thank you in advance for your reply. Kind regards, Rijeka Tourist Board Karolinarijecka (talk) 12:23, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

You have been warned about not making these alterations. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a tourist guidebook nor a tool to lure visitors. Your conflict of interest seems to have blinded you to this. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Because of your conflict of interest, you should request changes by posting on the article's talk page rather than editing the article directly. Other users will review your requests to see if they comply with policy and guidelines. Please also take a look at WP:BESTCOI and WP:BFAQ. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 13:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

wrong date (1948 should be 1848) - Gustave Kahnt

Gustave Kahnt (1848–1923) was a Luxembourg composer and conductor of German origin.

Born in on 7 October 1948 in Berlin, Kahnt was naturalized as a Luxembourger in 1890. From 1881–1909 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.217.37.115 (talk) 12:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Rojomoke (talk) 12:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Non-editable Misplaced Pages Pages

I have seen some pages on Misplaced Pages that are editable and some are not. What are some topics that are non-editable on Misplaced Pages? How do we know that the information provided on the page is relevant or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.37.27 (talk) 13:00, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Some pages on Misplaced Pages are protected, meaning that they cannot be edited by unregistered users (or, in some cases, non-admin users). This is usually done in cases where multiple unregistered users have been vandalising the article, and blocking them individually will not suffice to prevent the damage. Protected articles usually have a small padlock icon in the top right. If you find such a page and want to change something, the correct approach is to post your request on the article's talkpage and tag it with {{edit request}}. Another editor who can edit the page can then change it for you if they agree. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:05, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

However the edit will count as a contribution for that editor who actually made it, not for the one who requested it... CiaPan (talk) 13:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

If you want to suggest an edit to an article with no "Edit" tab then click the "View source" tab instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

- to see what the actual wiki markup says. The proposed edit still needs to go on the talk page. The attribution is not in the article history but is still on the talk page. In many cases the actual edit though will be slightly different than what had been proposed. Apteva (talk) 16:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

If you click the "View source" tab then you get information about page protection and instructions for submitting an edit request including a direct link to do it with a preloaded template. It's the easiest way to do it. Some editors think the tab should simply be named "Edit" even for users who cannot edit the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:00, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

So there are no specific banned/restricted topics that are non-editable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.63.254 (talk) 17:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Only those specific articles which, to prevent vandalism or other disruption, have been locked down. But there's no topic-wide restrictions in place: such decisions are done on an article-by-article basis, and only in such a manner as to stop actual disruption. If there's an article you are trying to edit, but cannot, you can request that it be unprotected at WP:RFPP in the appropriate section. Some protections may be lifted if it is clear that they are no longer warranted. --Jayron32 18:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Submitting Translation

How can I submit a translation of a wikipedia page/article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sapha AbdAllah (talk • contribs) 14:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

From and to which language? See Misplaced Pages:Translation and Misplaced Pages:Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

facebook shortcuts

it would be great to add social media links!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.189.67.126 (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

If you mean a way to easily share an article on Facebook or other sites then:

Template:HD/share

PrimeHunter (talk) 15:02, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

See also here for why this isn't included by default. --Colapeninsula (talk) 22:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Article Title Changed When Accepted

Hello.

I created an article entitled, "Socioscientific Issues." When it was accepted this week, it was changed to "Socio-scientific issues."

Is there a way to correct this? The correct title is two words (no hyphen) and both are capitalized. I don't seem to be able to edit the title.

Thanks very much.

samiscienceSamiscience (talk) 14:55, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The creator does not have a special right to control the title of an article. No one "owns" an article. Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (capitalization) says: "Do not capitalize the second or subsequent words in an article title, unless the title is a proper noun." Your heading here also has unusual capitalization for Misplaced Pages. A Google search shows it's both common to write socio-scientific with and without a hyphen. See for example a Google Scholar search "Socio-scientific+issues". Misplaced Pages:Moving a page explains how to change a title but it seems your suggested title should go through Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

You will need to discuss this at Talk:Socio-scientific issues. We don't tend to capitalize topic names just to facilitate the creation of yet another TLA. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

How to italicized article titles

Hi. I've been trying to italicized the titles of these two articles (1 and 2), as per WP:ITALICTITLE, but I can't seem to get the hang of it. I've tried using Template:Italic title and DISPLAYTITLE but it doesn't seem to be working. Any suggestions? Thanks. WWETrishMickiefan (talk) 15:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. I am not sure why italic title did not work, but Displaytitle did {{DISPLAYTITLE:''The Naked Truth'' (Lil' Kim album)}} Apteva (talk) 16:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The album infobox is coded to render the title in italics automatically so I don't know why it's not working properly in this article - maybe the ' in the disambiguation parentheses is foiling the template coding. I have asked at Template talk:Infobox album#Italic title redux.--ukexpat (talk) 16:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Dennis Stratton - Ex member of Iron Maiden

Dennis Stratton's Date of Birth is incorrect the correct date is today 09th October 1952 not 9th November 1952 please update — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.210.255 (talk) 16:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

This source says 9th November. Do you have a reliable source for your claim? --Anbu121 (talk me) 16:41, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I have changed the entry based on this reliable source. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Change main Photo

How can I change the main photo on the page entry and does it need to be hosted on another site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GilliKeiko (talk • contribs) 17:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Which page are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing you mean the first photo in some Misplaced Pages article. The answer to your second question is no, it may not be hosted on another site: Misplaced Pages will not show pictures unless they have been uploaded to the same language Misplaced Pages, or to Wikimedia Commons. If you wish to replace the picture in an article by another one, you need to verify that the copyright status of the image you want to use is suitable, upload it, and edit the page to refer to the new image. See WP:Uploading images. --ColinFine (talk) 18:48, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Worth Mitchell

In a self written article, this person state he invested in my husbands project and that he owed my husbands plane that he was killed in. These and other lies are in an article on Wikibin. I would love to have them deleted, this is slandering my husbands good name. I don't want to go to court, but I do feel it is important to my family and our healing that it be removed. I realize that he can say what ever he wishes, but if something in the article refers to someone else and is not true, then its only fair it be removed Laura Manning — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.110.173.189 (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but we have nothing to do with Wikibin, whose purpose is to preserve the things we have discarded or removed from Misplaced Pages. You will have to contact Wikibin directly yourself. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

It may not be relevant, but Misplaced Pages does not approve of self-written articles. That may be why the article was removed from here. Maproom (talk) 20:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I have now read the article on Wikibin. As Orangemike said, there is nothing anyone here can do about its presence there. But I would like to point out that any intelligent person, reading that article, will realise that its writer lacks all credibility. Maproom (talk) 21:12, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I have received an email saying that I wrote a wiki page on myself. Which I didn't.

Hi - I have received an email saying that I have written a wiki page on myself. I didn't. I wrote it about my friend. The message said that the page may well be deleted. How can I contact back to explain that I'm not writing about myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GwendolynneB (talk • contribs) 23:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

First the issue of not writing about yourself is moot if your friend still doesn't pass WP:NOTABILITY but that is assuming your friend is non-notable or not famous, if so you may try to reply to the address in the email and/or start a discussion on the articles delete talk section. Hope this helps! Marketdiamond (talk) 00:03, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I assume the article concerned is the one at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Gwendolynne Burkin. If so, and you are not Gwendolynne Burkin, the username you have chosen is contrary to our Misplaced Pages:Username policy in that it implies you are someone else - the real Gwendolynne Burkin. If you wish to continue editing Misplaced Pages, you will have to change your username: see the 'Changing your username' section in the policy. Looking at the proposed article though, I suspect that doing this will be more trouble than it is worth, in there appears to be little possibility that an article on Gwendolynne Burkin could be justified under the Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) guidelines, even if the necessary sources could be found. I suggest that you read the WP:CREATIVE section of the guidelines, and then ask yourself whether sufficient credible third-party published sources could be found to meet the criteria. If there aren't, your friend will not unfortunately merit an article in Misplaced Pages. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:27, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

(ec) Yes, I was about to say the same thing. Your username implies that you are the same person. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that you did indeed write an article about yourself. See Misplaced Pages:Autobiography; writing about yourself is strongly discouraged.

Also, please read and understand Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest regardless of who you are, because you clearly have a conflict of interest. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:29, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

October 10

Resubmitted entry twice. 1st time forgot to make changes. 2nd time after changes

The article I wrote was rejected because the language read like an advertisement. I changed the language and resubmitted. However, before I made the changes I mistakenly resubmitted before I made the corrections. My submission was denied based on the fact that no changes were made but the 2nd time I submitted the article the changes had been made. Article in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Orient.wiki/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orient.wiki (talk • contribs) 00:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

You have made only small changes since mid-September, as far as I can tell; are you about to make more edits? When you are ready to submit the draft again, add this code to the top: {{subst:submit}} and then save the page. That will add it to the queue for review. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Contents box

I've been editing this page, and have a question about the Contents box:

Earl of Devon

I added an image to the page, and I'm not certain whether this caused the problem or not, but the Contents box now spills a long way down the left side of the page, leaving a lot of blank space beside it on the right hand side of the page. Is there a way I can fix this? NinaGreen (talk) 00:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

It seems to be a fairly common problem where articles have a longish contents list - see say Elvis Presley or Julian Assange for articles with a similar effect. I suspect that it may be a consequence of having to allow for varying-width displays - if the content box took up most of the width, having text running along the side would look very odd, so it is probably better to keep the space to the right empty. You could try asking the wizards in the basement over at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical) though - they may know more. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! If it's a common problem, I can live with it. :-) NinaGreen (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

One thing you can do is find an object to fill the space. If you append an image or some appropriate template to the lead section of an article, it will occupy space to the right of the table of contents. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:26, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Help with edit

Hey, How can I add a new photo for Edmonton Alberta? Where do I go in edit? Please advise Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dastyle 88 (talk • contribs) 01:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

You should go to the appropriate article, click on edit and place an expression like:

]

...in the appropriate place, and then click "preview changes." This will show you about where the image will be, in the form of a red link. Then click on the redlink (preferably in a different tab or window), and the upload wizard will guide you from there. Once you have successfully uploaded it, then go back to the original tab and click "preview changes again. This should reveal what the thing will look like. Adjust the location of the expression, and the image size (the number immediately before "px"). When you are satisfied, click "save."

(Remember to always sign discussion with ~~~~)

Greg Bard (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Help with parcer functions in a template

Greetings,

I am trying to create a template that provides links to reference resources based on the name of the Misplaced Pages article. I have a functional one that will link to a general search, but there are more appropriate, and specific resources for this. My limitation, is that these external websites do not have straightforward urls. I am looking for a way to use "magic words" and/or parcer functions, etcetera. Fortunately, I have been in communication with the PhilPapers website and they have revealed to me that their urls can be constructed as follows:

1. Take the Misplaced Pages title
   
2. Remove all diacritics
   
3. Convert to lowercase
   
4. Replace all characters that are not letters, numbers, or hyphens by hyphens
   

This is my initial attempt:

• User:Gregbard/philosophy_refs/lc

Can someone point me in the right direction?Greg Bard (talk) 02:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

What is currently not working with the template you have right now? –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

The links that it provides do not accomplish the four steps I mentioned. Instead, the urls it produces have a lot of junk in them, like the "replace" function. In any case such a template as is, would not work if placed under external links in, for instance, John Locke.Greg Bard (talk) 04:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I've tried some things to it with no avail. :( –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the effort. I can tell you that the "PAGENAMEE" with the extra "E" isn't a typo. It makes the output continuous (rather than with spaces.)Greg Bard (talk) 06:20, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, I put the "E" back. Anyway, the problem is that the replace function won't parse and instead gets added on to the url itself. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

There is no such #replace parser function. A template cannot do what you want with the current software. It may become possible in 2013 with mw:Lua. The right encoding must be added as a parameter to the template, for example by a bot if somebody will add the task. I'm not aware of any current source template like {{Find sources}} which does this. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

To clarify: #replace is from the StringFunctions MediaWiki extension, which is not enabled on any Wikimedia site. System administrators decided long ago not to deploy that extension, instead favoring the more flexible Lua scripting approach that is currently under development. At least for now, the relevant portion of the URL should be specified as a template parameter, which will also help keep our article titles independent of their category system. As PrimeHunter mentioned, the conversion could instead be implemented as part of a bot that adds the template to articles. PleaseStand (talk) 12:51, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you PrimeHunter and PleaseStand. I am an AutoWikiBrowser user, so there is hope. However I do find it unfortunate that this can't be worked out on the template itself. Be well, Greg Bard (talk) 22:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Pending deletion and user problem

Hello,

I have two problems.

First, I'm a registered user and confirmed my email address and yet I can't upload images.

Second, I have added a book that I have just read. It is a great book and the distributor said it will likely become a best-seller is the sale hold. Destined for Oblivion: As Nature Intended is the title. But it is pending deletion after I collected all the data, references and wrote text. Non-notable author / book it says. Stephen King was a no body at one point, too and I see tons of books and authors listed that are totally unremarkable. This book as a full website, trailer, interviews and is available everywhere I looked... How to fight the deletion?

Please help me.

Thanks, Professor David Gibbs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profgibby (talk • contribs) 03:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

First, in order to upload images to Misplaced Pages, you must be WP:Autoconfirmed. If the image is free licensed, however, you can upload to Wikimedia Commons with no such restriction.

Second, see WP:NBOOK for the "notability" standard for books. If and when the book becomes notable, somebody can write an article about it. —teb728 t c 04:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

First: It's the image on the cover of the book. It's a royalty free image as per the official website. Second: I have read the notability, it's rather subjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dotnhack (talk • contribs) 06:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Read Free license. It is not about royalties but rather about permission to use without restriction. The publisher is very unlikely to allow the cover to be used by anyone for anything; so you will have to wait until your account is four days old before you can upload.

The only references in the Destined for Oblivion article are to the book itself. So there is no independent reliable sourcing whatever to support any claim of notability for the book, and there is nothing subjective about that. —teb728 t c 07:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

(ec)The notability standard is not subjective at all, it is designed specifically to render the opinions of the article writers (that's you, me and everyone else here) irrelevant. We require there to be independent third party published sources about the subject. In the case of books that usually means sources such as reviews in the mainstream press. The book itself is only a source for it's own content, it cannot support any claim of notability. You should also read WP:UPANDCOMING. Roger (talk) 08:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Stephen King was a nobody at one point - and if Misplaced Pages had been around then, he would not have had an article in it. Once he became notable - because reliable independent sources had written about him - he could have an article. --ColinFine (talk) 08:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

History link deported into javascript hell

I found today that the button has been deported into some messy java menu. Which preference do I set to have it back as a direct link? I find this "improvement" really annoying. Existing javascript(s) also cause "busy" problems with the browser. Electron9 (talk) 05:56, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Which skin do you have at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? Have you recently changed something in your preferences? Do you view Misplaced Pages with a larger font or more narrow window than usually? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Default, ie haven't changed anything. So programmers of wikipedia have changed the menu. Electron9 (talk) 23:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

It's not that simple. The default skin is Vector which has a tab saying "View history", not "history". What does your link say? In Vector, if the "Talk" and "Read" tab come too close together then the "View history" tab may be moved to a drop-down box. This can for example happen if you increase the font size (try Ctrl+0 to reset it), or use a narrow window, or view a page with more tabs than usual. Talk pages and some other pages like this one has a "New section" tab. Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets has the option: Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+". Does that help? There are other ways to reduce the width of tabs if you still have too little room. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

It's very simple, it worked, now it doesn't. It's correct the name now is "view history" and Ctrl+0 didn't change anything. The preference tab didn't fix the problem either. I have contributed a lot over the years. I think the people responsible for the javascripts cause less valuable input to wikipedia to be made. It's counterproductive. Electron9 (talk) 12:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Nationalisation of Northern Rock

There is an obscenity in the second line of this entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.181.248.252 (talk) 06:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Looks like the automated bots picked it up and removed it: . Thanks for being diligent. In the future, if you see obvious vandalism like this, you can just go ahead and remove it. No one here complains if you fix things that are broken. --Jayron32 06:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

pictures

Hi How do i align images on a page so they are staggered to the left and right ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybaaudi (talk • contribs) 08:33, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

You can just add |left or |right to the image. For example, ]. For more information please see Help:Wiki_markup#Images --Anbu121 (talk me) 09:16, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I think you mean WP:WIKIMARKUP#Images. Dismas| 09:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)Thanks, fixed it now--Anbu121 (talk me) 09:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Upload a picture

I want to upload a picture to an article but it won't let me. Why? Iowafromiowa (talk) 10:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Your account is not autoconfirmed yet so you cannot upload images directly to the English Misplaced Pages. If the image license allows it then you can still start the upload here but upload it to Wikimedia Commons and use it in a Misplaced Pages article. Where is the image from and where do you want to use it?

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• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Misplaced Pages or Wikimedia Commons, add ] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40 PrimeHunter (talk) 11:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I want to upload a picture from the Official website of the Prime Minister of Canada, do you know under what license does it lie? and secondly, how do I autoconfirm my account? Thank you indeed very much. Iowafromiowa (talk) 11:59, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I copied your latest post from my talk page. Continue a discussion here by clicking the "edit" link to the right of the section heading. You already have more than 10 edits so your account will automatically be autoconfirmed 4 days (precisely 96 hours) after the account creation seen at Special:Log/Iowafromiowa. Please give a link to the page where the image is, and say which article you want to use it in. Misplaced Pages allows commercial reuse of our content so http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/notices.asp#Copyright does not sound promising. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

wrong rules for classification cant be edited

The rules for 2012–13 F.C. Internazionale Milano season Serie A classification is wrong...

the is rules for classification: 1st points; 2nd head-to-head points; 3rd head-to-head goal difference; 4th head-to-head goals scored; 5th goal difference; 6th number of goals scored. as can see it at 2012-13 Serie A

while its listed at 2012–13 F.C. Internazionale Milano season Rules for classification: 1) points; 2) goal difference; 3) number of goals scored.

and i cant find a way to fix it !

Adnan 10 October —Preceding undated comment added 10:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

It appears this edit has fixed it by adding hth=yes to the template which produces the text. See the documentation of the hth parameter at Template:Fb cl footer. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you i didnt know that . AdnanTalk 5.54 10 october 2012 (UTC)

Artin Dadyan Pasha

Hi, theres more information then just him being the secretary of ottoman empire I can provide.

as the great grand daughter of Yervant Dadyan Pasha I wold like to show everyone who dadyan family really is!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.216.198.178 (talk • contribs)

1) remember, we need verifable material published in neutral, reliable sources

2) your obvious conflict of interest can potentially be a problem, especially if you do not respect our neutral point-of-view policy. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

OrangeMike makes a good point, Misplaced Pages is always interested in more reliable sourced encyclopedic content for articles however on some items that could be contested as point of view it may be better to discuss on that articles talk page first and await feedback and suggestions on how to post it in the article. Thanks for your continued contributions! Marketdiamond (talk) 04:28, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

organization of prohibition chemical weapon.

History of organization of prohibition chemical weapon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.70.113 (talk) 16:24, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Does chemical weapon help?--ukexpat (talk) 16:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Help regarding FGFC820 article

FGFC820 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Ok so I copied the bio from fgfc820.com but I refrenced and sited it, is that still not allowed even when you cited it? --Supreme Overlord 16:39, 10 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chance.purvis (talk • contribs)

In short, no. You cannot copy-paste, or even lightly paraphrase material subject to copyright, unless it has a free license. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

... and you would also need independent reliable sources to support the information in the article, and to demonstrate the notability of the subject. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Jain University

The article named "Jain University" has a problem. There seems to be an image in the article, but its not showing up. I am a student of this university and I tried to upload an image of my own, but it did not accept it. So if you could either remove the image or add one, it would be a lot of help Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilip437 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Simple correction. The file name was File:Jain University Campus.jpeg, and you had forgotten the extension and just used File:Jain University Campus. Sorted now. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Tsalas

I created a show called: Star Trek Bridge Commander (TV Series). When I make and post an article about it on Misplaced Pages, It gets deleted. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsalas10 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Please read the comments on your talk page. The article was deleted twice as a test page, once because you put nothing onto it, and once because you've repeatedly been creating it despite deletion. Misplaced Pages isn't for things made up one day, including DVD series that are available from the creator's family. Nyttend (talk) 20:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

You created the show? It's likely not notable enough for inclusion. See WP:Notability. Since you had a hand in making it, see WP:Conflict of interest as well. Dismas| 20:01, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Spam link help

What's the link that we give people when they complain about Misplaced Pages having in-text advertising links? I know that this isn't WP:RD/C, but we get enough misguided questions here that I expect this to be the best place to go. Nyttend (talk) 19:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Are you looking for {{HD/Ads}} ? -- John of Reading (talk) 19:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Moreover, what's wrong with Tsalas' contributions? I clicked it to help answer his question above, and I was surprised to see that one of the bullets went nowhere; is this perhaps caused by the same malware that's producing the spam links on my browser? Nyttend (talk) 19:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that was the template in question; thanks for the help. Nyttend (talk) 19:55, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I too can see the empty bullet, but I am sure that my PC doesn't have any malware --Anbu121 (talk me) 20:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

{{HD/Ads}} was based on WP:RFAQ#ADS. Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Bizarre edit history and bugzilla:39062 are about other cases of empty bullets in contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Starting a new account to avoid hounding

Is throwing in my account and starting again with a new one a legitimate way to avoid being wikihounded by another editor? If not what are the other options that are available? Dlv999 (talk) 20:27, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Clean start. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for your troubles, it may be wiser to retain your username and report any activity by the editor you feel is "hounding" you to administrators etc. There are protocols and levels of notification you may use to report anything that makes you uncomfortable at Misplaced Pages. Best of luck. Marketdiamond (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Also creating a new account would likely not stop the hounding if you continue editing the same articles and places you were editing with the prior account. Marketdiamond gave good advice. WP:ANI is the appropriate venue to report these problems. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Please delete copyvios

Please delete Dooman River, it is a full copyvio from http://catalogue.globalfilm.org/new-releases/now-playing/dooman-river.html/ . Please check the other articles of User:Eholderm, there seem to be more copyvios. And please make your rules to delete articles simpler. I have no idea how it works. --188.101.9.245 (talk) 22:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

marked. thanks. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 22:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

For future reference, you can put the template {{db-copyvio|url=sourceurl}} at the top of any article that's a copyright violation, replacing sourceurl with the link to the copyrighted page. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

My photos

Why do my photos I add to Edmonton Alberta page keeping getting taken off???? They are mine and the ones on the Edmonton page were ugly. How can I get my photos to stay?

Thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dastyle 88 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Here are two things I think might be issues:

1) According to the revision history, apparently other editors seem to think the photos are not in the right location. Have you checked that the location where you are placing them is the correct place?

2) Are you sure your photos have been properly marked as free (your own work being released for anyone to use) on Commons?

Also, you might want to discuss about these photos on the talk page before adding them.

Finally, please remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~).

Hope this helps,

–– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 05:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Anonymouse321 makes a great point, unfortunately with something as specific as a certain file or edit (or deletion) the best HD can do is advise to politely contact that editor on their talk page, or deletion log or on the articles talk page as to the reasons/justifications for their actions so that you may better work out any differences or clear up any confusion. To answer your "why" beyond pointing you there would be to speculate. Marketdiamond (talk) 08:36, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Beltracchi Wolfgang wiki page external links.

Since a few days I am treying to remove the beltracchi-project link. Because this project does not exist any more since the September 1th. 2012

Regardes Beltracchi

Hi, Welcome to the Helpdesk! (Please take a moment to press the ~ 4 times in order to leave your signature and talk page for reference!) Your question/request is a bit confusing, might you be referring to the hyperlink on this: Wolfgang_Beltracchi#Notes_and_references list? I also see that there is a German language wiki article, does it also have a similar issue? Thanks. Marketdiamond (talk) 08:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

You should discuss your proposed changes on the article talk page, Talk:Wolfgang_Beltracchi. Your username suggests you are the subject of the article (or someone closely connected with him. If you are, you are strongly discouraged from editing article directly; please read WP:COI. —teb728 t c 10:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Repeated Selected Article, Selected Picture, Dou You Know and News

Hi,

It is my daily habit to come to office and visit news website and wikipedia and see Main page and above stated portals like (Technology, Science (Physics, Chemistry, Biology), History and rarely Arts) for about 7 years.

I have notices that "Selected Article, Selected Picture, Dou You Know and News" gets repeated very often and infact I have seen same content more than 10 times. I have read them all and want to know more. Hence, It will be good if people like us gets new everyday without repetition. Offcource you can have links for most favourite or most popular if you wish people should know them since I feel that posting them on regular basis you want users to know these topics.

Also on some portals like Biology the contents does not change for long period of time. It is frustrating to see same page everyday. You have millions of information to give to us.

I hope you got my feelings that I want to convey.

Thanks and Regards, Vikash Anand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.191.35.22 (talk) 11:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so (i.e. selected articles (i.e. featured articles) etc get repeated). Can you mention an article or two which ha(s/ve) been repeated! --Tito Dutta ✉ 11:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Vikash refers to the portal pages linked at the top right of the main page, for example Portal:Technology. The editors of each portal can make different choices. Portal pages have a limited amount of selected content and many of them switch randomly between it each time the portal page is rerendered by our software. A reader can rerender Portal:Technology by clicking "View new selections below (purge)". Portal pages get far less attention from both readers and editors than Main Page. For example, Portal:Technology gets around 2,000 daily page views where Main Page gets 8,000,000. Portal:Biology only gets 300. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Infobox theatre group

I used this infobox in few article, in those articles the code is working fine, right now I need to use this once again, but I can't see anything in Template:Infobox theatre group. Did they try to merge/redirect it to Template infobox organization? Confused!--Tito Dutta ✉ 11:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

If you try to edit the template you'll see that it is a wrapper for Template:infobox organization, and this is what the documentation page says, but I think it might be clearer if the parameters were explained on the documentation page as they used to be. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

WP:SPI or WP:AE

Note I'm not giving explicit details to avoid any drama here.

At a controversial topic, an IP user is suspected of being a sockpuppet of a user who is, topic banned, restricted to one account and prohibited from editing anonymously. The suspicions have not been investigated or tested to my knowledge, but several users have mooted them in the ongoing page move discussion.

Should the first step be to WP:SPI to see if the anonymous user is a sockpuppet of the topic-banned user or to WP:AE to report the suspected breaches of restrictions without evidence from SPI? Thryduulf (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain ArbCom members have CheckUser access, so WP:AE would get the attention of someone who BOTH knows the background of the case and can look into it. They deal with things like this a lot, so bringing it to their attention may be the best way to handle it. --Jayron32 13:55, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

1. cf.[http://www.bizarremag.com/film-and-music/interviews/127/udo_kier.html
2. cf.[http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/11559/1/20-qas-udo-kier
3. cf.[http://daily.greencine.com/archives/008113.html#more

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