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Retired This user is no longer active on Misplaced Pages.A Ban is NOT a Block
A Ban is not a block. But, if you break the imposed sanction you could be. You could just agree to the sactions, still "retire" (temporarily) and communicate with a mentor about ways to avoid editing when there is a conflict. There is a mentor program at Misplaced Pages. This is what I did and whether my mentor knew it or not, he helped.--Amadscientist (talk) 13:34, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- The number 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything, calculated by an enormous supercomputer over a period of 7.5 million years........unfortunately no one remembers what the question was.--Amadscientist (talk) 14:13, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is a lot like the Criminal Justice System in the UK, it tries so hard to be fair to the offender it often punishes the victim instead. I don't confuse the law with justice, nor do I respect it anymore and I've really lost any respect I had left for the project. As you pointed out, this isn't a hassle free environment but those making it unpleasant keep getting away with it. I mean really why do we bother, you might as well let the bastards get their own way. Wee Curry Monster talk 16:36, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- The question is "What do you get if you multiply 9 x 6?" Ans: 42. I like Douglas Adams but Kafka is better at understanding wikipedia, its Kafkaesque when they invent a crime to charge you with when you didn't break the rules.
- Unroll your towel. Take a break. Everyone needs a rest now and then. A temp ban is not the end of the world.--Amadscientist (talk) 22:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- The question is "What do you get if you multiply 9 x 6?" Ans: 42. I like Douglas Adams but Kafka is better at understanding wikipedia, its Kafkaesque when they invent a crime to charge you with when you didn't break the rules.
Well, this is just fucking stupid. You just had to walk away from the ANI and let it wind down (like we used to do at WQA), but that's gone because it "wasn't effective." Now the so-called "Civil POV" pushers win and we've lost a decent content editor. Hopefully the retirement is temporary. Nobody Ent 17:46, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Rest, then come back
Wee, I know you are tired of the one year harassment and of the verdict at the ANI. I hope you will rest and then come back very soon. Many other good editors have become discouraged and found a short rest results in reconsideration and a comeback as an editor. I hope this happens with you.
Misplaced Pages is far from perfect and I think that many editors consider retirement at one time or another. Most of them are temporarily exhausted by the various injustices and come back. You are an important content editor and Misplaced Pages cannot afford to lose editors like you. Troublemakers are aplenty but good editors are rare and leaving at an alarming rate.
Rest, then come back. Misplaced Pages needs you. Mugginsx (talk) 17:58, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- WCM, I concur with Mug, Nobody and the mad scientist on this one, you should have just walked away and let someone handle it. All you had to do was to trust that things would be taken care of and that other concerned but uninvolved Admin(s) would come up with a better solution to help with the problem, instead of you fighting a lonely battle against a tag-team, eh? Anyway, a short break would do you some good to clear up your mind and I really hope to see you back here again, soon. Cheers and best. --Dave 01:45, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- You are right, Muggins, when you say that Misplaced Pages cannot afford to lose editors like Curry Monster. But at the same time it's driving editors like Curry Monster away by refusing to back them when they find themselves fighting to ensure that articles respect basic core policies that are supposed to be part of the encyclopædia's values.
- Curry Monster has been fundamental to the development of Falklands articles over the course of the last five years and has played a crucial role in maintaining their neutrality. He's given an huge amount to this project, and his expertise combined with the value he puts on neutrality will be nigh-on impossible for the encyclopædia to replace. The fact that someone seriously proposed topic-banning him from Falklands topics is a massive slap in the face. Basically, it's a message that all the effort that he's put into the project is not just not valued, but actually considered a problem! Should we really be surprised by his reaction? I'm not.
- It shouldn't be a matter of walking away from ANI and letting it wind down. If that's the best possible outcome in a case like this, then that demonstrates quite how far Misplaced Pages has lost control of its disruptive editors. And it's not like this is the first time we've had a similar failure by ANI to back those who seek to uphold policy, even in the Falklands arena. Not by a long shout.
- Misplaced Pages is rapidly losing its good content editors. In this particular fiasco, I think we've seen a pretty good illustration of why. Kahastok talk 17:32, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- I do not understand at all the way that ANI ] was closed. Among other things, there is a massive strikethrough which I cannot attribute to any editor in the the edit history at time of closing. It was all very strange. I did the "partial" strikethrough insofar as my conversation with Amadscientist but it was very small and did not include the Massive Strikethrough which no one had the right to do to my mind and within my understand of Misplaced Pages guidelines.
- I think it is also insulting to offer Wee a Topic ban when he spent years doing such extremely fine work on those articles. That is wiki for you sometimes - treat the good editors like trash and the trash like good editors. Mugginsx (talk) 18:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated, but I'm not putting as much effort in. I will remain effectively retired but may pop in from time to time. Wee Curry Monster talk 13:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
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