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: There is little doubt that those two are the same person. A quick survey of their wikignoming style, which constitutes most of their edits is convincing enough. Also Bernolákovcina edited only for a few days in Jan 2011 and Curb Chain started in April of that year, so it's not exactly socking. The more serious question is proving that Shaz0t and Curb Chain are the same user; these two overlap in time and Shaz0t was used as ] account. ] (]) 13:52, 29 November 2012 (UTC) | : There is little doubt that those two are the same person. A quick survey of their wikignoming style, which constitutes most of their edits is convincing enough. Also Bernolákovcina edited only for a few days in Jan 2011 and Curb Chain started in April of that year, so it's not exactly socking. The more serious question is proving that Shaz0t and Curb Chain are the same user; these two overlap in time and Shaz0t was used as ] account. ] (]) 13:52, 29 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
* '''Comment''' The constitute edits on different areas of the respective articles, with a ''minimum'' time between edits of 86 days - that means that if CC and Berno are the same person, that person used their sock account to return to a mere 4 articles after ''nearly three months'' in order to make a completely unrelated edit. That doesn't seem like the behaviour of a sockpuppeteer to me. The are even fewer - no article overlap at all, and although the nearest edits are only a week apart, they concern entirely unrelated disagreements with ] on BMK's talkpage. The "similarities" (spurious deletions, use of WP:SYNTH) pointed out above have very dissimilar edit summaries and concern different issues. Looking over the evidence above, I personally don't see any connection between the three accounts mentioned. ] ]‍] 14:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC) | * '''Comment''' The constitute edits on different areas of the respective articles, with a ''minimum'' time between edits of 86 days - that means that if CC and Berno are the same person, that person used their sock account to return to a mere 4 articles after ''nearly three months'' in order to make a completely unrelated edit. That doesn't seem like the behaviour of a sockpuppeteer to me. The are even fewer - no article overlap at all, and although the nearest edits are only a week apart, they concern entirely unrelated disagreements with ] on BMK's talkpage. The "similarities" (spurious deletions, use of WP:SYNTH) pointed out above have very dissimilar edit summaries and concern different issues. Looking over the evidence above, I personally don't see any connection between the three accounts mentioned. ] ]‍] 14:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
* '''Comment''' This is nothing but a malicious effort on Tijfo098's part to retaliate for Curb Chain having raised issues regarding Tijfo098's wiki-friend at ANI. As I pointed out there, this is a new low for Misplaced Pages, and should be closed without further consideration. --] (]) 18:11, 29 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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29 November 2012
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Curb Chain has recently exhibited behavior highly similar to the indef-blocked troll account, most notably deleting sourced material on spurious grounds—a signature action of Shaz0t. Another striking overlap is the recent sustained attack by Curb Chain against User:Beyond My Ken; Shaz0t also targeted BMK.
- Diffs of spurious deletions by Curb Chain: . Attacks on BMK .
- Diffs of spurious deletions by Shaz0t: . Attacks on BMK Tijfo098 (talk) 10:06, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Also both accounts spuriously invoke WP:SYNTH to delete well-referenced and not-SYNTH material. Curb Chain Shaz0t. Tijfo098 (talk) 10:57, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Note that the suspected previous (but probably not the first) account of Curb Chain, User:Bernolákovčina, also had a strong conflict with BMK at User_talk:Bernolákovčina#Previous_accounts. Tijfo098 (talk) 10:36, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
In October Curb Chain deleted stuff about drug testing because he personally did not have access to some science journals e.g. (there are more like that) in violation of WP:PAYWALL. Also he deemed Quest Diagnostics unreliable about drug testing, which is a highly questionable judgement. Note the interest of Shaz0t in deleting material about drugs as well . Tijfo098 (talk) 11:42, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
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Bernolákovčina had relatively few edits but I do see some overlap:
- Namespace Main
- Namespace Misplaced Pages
- Namespace Template talk
I don't know if the non-overlap between Curb Chain's edit to Khuzestan Plain and Bernolákovčina's 10 edits to Politics of Khuzestan Province means anything.
67.119.3.105 (talk) 10:55, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- There is little doubt that those two are the same person. A quick survey of their wikignoming style, which constitutes most of their edits is convincing enough. Also Bernolákovcina edited only for a few days in Jan 2011 and Curb Chain started in April of that year, so it's not exactly socking. The more serious question is proving that Shaz0t and Curb Chain are the same user; these two overlap in time and Shaz0t was used as WP:BADHAND account. Tijfo098 (talk) 13:52, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Comment The "overlaps" with Bernolákovčina constitute edits on different areas of the respective articles, with a minimum time between edits of 86 days - that means that if CC and Berno are the same person, that person used their sock account to return to a mere 4 articles after nearly three months in order to make a completely unrelated edit. That doesn't seem like the behaviour of a sockpuppeteer to me. The interactions between CC and Shaz0t are even fewer - no article overlap at all, and although the nearest edits are only a week apart, they concern entirely unrelated disagreements with User:Beyond My Ken on BMK's talkpage. The "similarities" (spurious deletions, use of WP:SYNTH) pointed out above have very dissimilar edit summaries and concern different issues. Looking over the evidence above, I personally don't see any connection between the three accounts mentioned. Yunshui 雲水 14:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Comment This is nothing but a malicious effort on Tijfo098's part to retaliate for Curb Chain having raised issues regarding Tijfo098's wiki-friend at ANI. As I pointed out there, this is a new low for Misplaced Pages, and should be closed without further consideration. --Drmargi (talk) 18:11, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
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