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For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/༆/Archive.

Please note that a case was originally opened under Tobias Conradi (talk · contribs) but has been moved to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/༆. Future cases should be placed under Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/༆.

Prior SSP or RFCU cases may exist for this user:

16 December 2012

– An SPI clerk has endorsed a request for CheckUser. A checkuser will shortly review the case.

Suspected sockpuppets

User:NVanMinh was opened 23:37, 15 December 2012. Almost every post is a criticism or attack against me. It's obviously somebody who has a grudge, not somebody who just started editing yesterday. The most likely suspect is User:༆. Kauffner (talk) 05:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

  • Comment - Let it be said that I am not Kauffner's biggest fan. I was the one who first stumbled across the pattern of IP edits under Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner/Archive. I also suspect that NVanMinh has edited before. In particular, there was an IP comment Kauffner deleted from his Talk page some months back which bears some of the same style. But then one editor who edits as an IP and another is somewhat the pot calling the kettle black.
However I don't think for a moment that NVanMinh is User:Yig Mgo (that is what that User talk:༆ Tibetan caret as a User symbol is that appears like a little torch, or as a ☐ ballot box if you have older fonts like the PC at my gym). NVanMinh's English is (sorry YigMgo) evidently better than YigMgo's, enough to pick up on sarcasm; NVanMinh understands wp templates, YigMgo doesn't (again sorry YigMgo), NVanMinh is clued up about the capitalization issue, YigMgo isn't particularly - despite having also agreed with Dr Blofeld as we all have. Most significantly NVanMinh doesn't seem at all aware of the history of the last 6 months re Kauffner's stripping of the WikiProject Vietnam pages of Vietnamese spelling titles which YigMgo has followed every step, NVanMinh hasn't picked up on despite it being under his/her face. My impression is that NVanMinh has returned to en.wp from some earlier history about capitalization having missed the ongoing soap opera of Kauffner's circa 1,400x article moves against the Vietnamese alphabet.
There is evidently a medium sized list of vi.wp editors, occasional visitors to en.wp WikiProject Vietnam, who have objected to various aspects of Kauffner's editing over the last 2 years. A better coincidence than 2 editors agreeing with Dr Blofeld is needed before disposing of local Vietnamese participation in WP:VN in this manner. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
My reason for linking NVanMinh and ༆ was this diff, where they seem to be collaborating. But it is true that the writing style is not the same. There is no history of controversy about capitalization in the project prior to the discussion that began on Dec. 12, so that doesn't narrow it down. NVanMinh obviously has an editing history of some kind, and there must be a reason why he is not telling us what it is. The issue of the page moves I made last year was dealt with on ANI a long time ago. I expect IIO to continue to forum shop the matter for years to come. Kauffner (talk) 14:50, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
"There is no history of controversy about capitalization in the project prior to the discussion that began on Dec. 12" - obviously another attempt to deceive the readers, see http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Vietnam&diff=528276298&oldid=528263189#Capitalization_for_province_names . NVanMinh (talk) 15:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
  •  Clerk endorsed it is blatantly obvious that NVanMinh did not start editing yesterday. Their immediate familiarity with categories and templates such as {{catmain}}, wikiprojects and their familiarity with Kauffner's history is evidence enough of that. It seems that this edit by ༆ along with by NVanMinh is evidence enough to draw a link between the two and warrant a check. Kauffner, please note in future cases that it is useful to provide diffs showing that the two accounts corroborate each other. Simply saying "What kind of person keeps track of another users' capitalization activity from last year? I think we both know the answer to that." does not count as evidence and results in me either having to put the case on hold until evidence is provided, or having to trawl through the contributions myself. Many thanks, Spitfire 09:35, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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