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* ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Heinz Baked Beans}}''' – Per my comments in the earlier section, the "Beanz" seems to be a cute piece of labelling rather than an official rename of the product that has been adopted by the press and public as a ]. Google News and Books search still return "Heinz Baked Beans" in far greater weight than "Heinz Baked Beanz". ] (]) 09:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Heinz Baked Beans}}''' – Per my comments in the earlier section, the "Beanz" seems to be a cute piece of labelling rather than an official rename of the product that has been adopted by the press and public as a ]. Google News and Books search still return "Heinz Baked Beans" in far greater weight than "Heinz Baked Beanz". ] (]) 09:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

⚫ * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Georg Klein (composer)}}''' – There are several people named Georg Klein. The others by that name each have a page called "Georg Klein" followed by their profession. I suggest the same pattern is followed for this person, and that the page should be linked to from the disambiguation page. — ] (] • ]) 21:52, December 20, 2012 (UTC)*'''Oppose move''' There are several articles already on people named ], but I can't see any articles on '''Georg''' Klein other than this one. If you know of other notable people named Georg Klein, then please write articles about them. Until then, there's no need to ] this one. Thanks, ] (]) 08:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


* ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Textbooks of the Palestinian National Authority}}''' – This article just covers textbooks issued by the ] for use in ] A and B of the ]. Presumably Area C uses the same textbooks as Israel. ] (]) 07:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Textbooks of the Palestinian National Authority}}''' – This article just covers textbooks issued by the ] for use in ] A and B of the ]. Presumably Area C uses the same textbooks as Israel. ] (]) 07:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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* ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Georg Klein (biologist)}}''' – His first name is misspelled; It is Georg, not George--] (]) 22:33, 20 December 2012 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Georg Klein (biologist)}}''' – His first name is misspelled; It is Georg, not George--] (]) 22:33, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

⚫ * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Georg Klein (composer)}}''' – There are several people named Georg Klein. The others by that name each have a page called "Georg Klein" followed by their profession. I suggest the same pattern is followed for this person, and that the page should be linked to from the disambiguation page. — ] (] • ]) 21:52, 20 December 2012 (UTC)‎


* ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Misplaced Pages:WikiProject LGBT studies/Person}}''' – As far as I know, none of the WikiProjects with task forces use that title "Task forces" in this way, for example: ] or ], but also, there is a possibility to move it to ], like ] or ]. The current title is maybe creating a problem with the Class-categories with the {{tl|Category class}} template (e.g. how it looks -> ]; who it should looks -> ]). I will request the categories to be moved to a proper name at CFD as well. ].<sup>]</sup> Grammatically incorrect? '''Correct it!''' ] 21:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Misplaced Pages:WikiProject LGBT studies/Person}}''' – As far as I know, none of the WikiProjects with task forces use that title "Task forces" in this way, for example: ] or ], but also, there is a possibility to move it to ], like ] or ]. The current title is maybe creating a problem with the Class-categories with the {{tl|Category class}} template (e.g. how it looks -> ]; who it should looks -> ]). I will request the categories to be moved to a proper name at CFD as well. ].<sup>]</sup> Grammatically incorrect? '''Correct it!''' ] 21:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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* ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Abdullah Al-Sharbatly}}''' – Common name for Saudi people ] (]) 14:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Abdullah Al-Sharbatly}}''' – Common name for Saudi people ] (]) 14:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


* ''(])'' – '''] → ?''' – Two editors have recently tried to move this article from "Lake Eyre" to "Kati Thanda-Lake Eyre", the lake's new official name. I would prefer to start a discussion rather than continue effectively move warring. I don't really have a strong opinion on the issue, but obviously the official name is not always the ]. Particularly in this case, I don't think "Kati Thanda" is recognised to the same extent that "Lake Eyre" is by the Australian (and general) public, and thus "Lake Eyre" would be the most appropriate name currently. I would further note that ] is rather uncommmon in Australia, and when it occurs one name is likely to be more recognisable (e.g. "Uluru / Ayers Rock" is the official name, "Uluru" is what Misplaced Pages's article is titled). <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' – 11:02, Thursday December 20, 2012 (])</small>*'''Oppose''' per ] the article should be here, with redirects from ] and ]. When I was growing up Ayers Rock was the common name but in recent years Uluru has become more common. The same thing might happen here and one day "Kati Thanda" might be the common name, but that's not the case now. A google search for "Kati Thanda" returns 3,360 results while "Lake Eyre" returns 654,000. Page view statistics for Kati Thanda show 28 views today and nothing previously. Kati Thanda-Lake Eyre returns 69 views today, and nothing previously. Lake Eyre returns 8,661 views in the last 30 days, and 8,890 last month. nuff said. --<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#fee72c 0em 0em 0.8em,gold -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">] (])</font> 11:20, 20 December 2012 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → ?''' – Two editors have recently tried to move this article from "Lake Eyre" to "Kati Thanda-Lake Eyre", the lake's new official name. I would prefer to start a discussion rather than continue effectively move warring. I don't really have a strong opinion on the issue, but obviously the official name is not always the ]. Particularly in this case, I don't think "Kati Thanda" is recognised to the same extent that "Lake Eyre" is by the Australian (and general) public, and thus "Lake Eyre" would be the most appropriate name currently. I would further note that ] is rather uncommmon in Australia, and when it occurs one name is likely to be more recognisable (e.g. "Uluru / Ayers Rock" is the official name, "Uluru" is what Misplaced Pages's article is titled). <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' – 11:02, Thursday December 20, 2012 (])</small> – 11:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


* ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Battle of Hermannstadt}}''' – the German name is more common in English sources:Google Books results:1442 Hunyadi Hermannstadt 1442 Hunyadi Szeben Hermannstadt was the center of the autonomous region of Königsboden, lived by German-speaking ]] (]) 10:28, 20 December 2012 (UTC) * ''(])'' – '''] → {{no redirect|Battle of Hermannstadt}}''' – the German name is more common in English sources:Google Books results:1442 Hunyadi Hermannstadt 1442 Hunyadi Szeben Hermannstadt was the center of the autonomous region of Königsboden, lived by German-speaking ]] (]) 10:28, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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December 23, 2012

December 22, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Kindai Eiga Kyokai → Kindai Eiga Kyōkai – Article was originally created under the macron-spelling, but was moved shortly afterward under the rationale that DVD covers apparently give a non-macronned spelling. However, the company's official website states "Copyright © 2001-2012 KINDAI EIGA KYOUKAI All rights Reserved" spells their name with a u. Both of these spellings are apparently official, and are based on the Hepburn romanization system. Misplaced Pages policy is that when there is a lack of consistency in official sources, we should use the macronned spelling, which is the standard Hepburn spelling. elvenscout742 (talk) 16:29, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Bebe stores → Bebe Stores – The official spelling is "bebe stores", but on Misplaced Pages, "Bebe Stores" must be used, since MOS:TM states the following: "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official," as long as this is a style already in use, rather than inventing a new one". Indeed, "Bebe Stores" is already in use, as can be seen here and here. Trinitresque (talk) 02:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

December 21, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Handball → Handball (disambiguation) – Team Handball, being an Olympic sport of international significance, is by and large the most popular and most known form of handball, and thus satisfies WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Admittedly, this is the first time that I encounter the term "team handball" as a disambiguator. All other uses of the word are either local (minor national sports) or historical. I find it strange that I haven't found any previous RMs for this, and that my assertion hasn't been tested thus far; there was some discussion and back and forth moves/redirects above, but the context is unclear. Well, here we go now to find a consensus. No such user (talk) 09:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

December 20, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Lake Eyre → ? – Two editors have recently tried to move this article from "Lake Eyre" to "Kati Thanda-Lake Eyre", the lake's new official name. I would prefer to start a discussion rather than continue effectively move warring. I don't really have a strong opinion on the issue, but obviously the official name is not always the common name. Particularly in this case, I don't think "Kati Thanda" is recognised to the same extent that "Lake Eyre" is by the Australian (and general) public, and thus "Lake Eyre" would be the most appropriate name currently. I would further note that dual naming is rather uncommmon in Australia, and when it occurs one name is likely to be more recognisable (e.g. "Uluru / Ayers Rock" is the official name, "Uluru" is what Misplaced Pages's article is titled). IgnorantArmies – 11:02, Thursday December 20, 2012 (UTC) – 11:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

December 19, 2012

  • (Discuss) – MS Pride of Calais → ? – * The ship was renamed to MS Ostend Spirit on 19/12/12. However a page with that already exists. 2013harry 16:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

December 18, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Tofu skin → Yuba – Yuba (a Japanese word) is the standard name for this soyfood product the United States and Canada. It is used by all the companies that manufacture yuba in the United States. None of those companies use the term "Tofu skin." I have just finished writing a lengthy scholarly book on the subject, which contains 733 references (mostly in English) - cited on this page - and the term "Tofu skin" appeared only twice in all of the references to that book. The term "Tofu skin" was coined by the writer of a recent Asian cookbook. Using Ngram viewer to compare yuba skin,yuba will demonstrate clearly that the term "tofu skin" is a recently coined and rarely used term - unlike yuba. Moreover yuba has nothing to do with tofu! It is not the skin of tofu and is not made from the skin of tofu. I consider it to be a confusing term that certainly should not be the title of a wikipedia page. Who might object to the name yuba? Perhaps people of Chinese culture who refer to yuba as "beancurd skin." I believe this term is less popular than yuba because is is (1) Unappetizing. (2) Longer than yuba, (3) Inaccurate - again, yuba has nothing to do with tofu except that both are made from soymilk. BillShurts (talk) 19:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

December 17, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Nosocomial infection → Hospital-acquired infection – I propose that the title of this article be changed from "Nosocomial infection" to "Hospital-acquired infection" per WP:COMMONNAME. Here is the article's current traffic, which is currently 33,000 people per month making it popular enough to assume that non-specialists from the general public are coming here for information. Because non-specialists are the primary readership, and because most of the content of this article is non-technical, I think that this article should use the non-specialist term. Thoughts? Relisted. BDD (talk) 21:56, 17 December 2012 (UTC) Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

December 16, 2012

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  • (Discuss) – AT&T → AT&T (2005) – Rationale is explained in the section above. In short, neither the 1885 or 2005 AT&T can be considered primary topic, as most people view AT&T both as a current gargantuan corporation and as a very old corporation. Yet, disambiguation is a poor solution as well. So, I wrote up a WP:DABCONCEPT article about the various AT&Ts and the complex history and feel that this should be what people see when they visit AT&T. For the individual companies, disambiguation with the year they first used the AT&T name is the best way. Relisted. BDD (talk) 20:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC) Ego White Tray (talk) 04:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Perth Agreement → ? – The explanatory notes published with the Succession to the Crown Bill refer to the 2011 proposals as the "Perth agreement". Since the title of this article is quite unwieldy I'd like to propose that it be changed to Perth Agreement of 2011 or Perth Agreement on the royal succession. 68.171.231.80 (talk) 15:46, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – The White Bird → L'Oiseau Blanc – The name, L'Oiseau Blanc is the actual name of the aircraft, and so appears as such in both contemporary (period) and current literature sources. The present title, "The White Bird" is a translation of the name that is only present in a minority of worldwide sources as the predominate title.In determining which of several alternative names to be the most frequently used as the title for this article, a review of the usage of major international organizations, major English-language media outlets, quality encyclopedias, major aeronautic bodies and authoritative journals indicates that L'Oiseau Blanc appears most frequently to a total of 180,000 sources that includes both American and other reference sources. When the translation is included in a title search for "single" use, only 54,000 sources are indicated. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:04, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Norwegian Second Division → 2. Divisjon (Norway) – I originally moved the article to "2. Divisjon" on the basis of the sources at the article, but it was reverted. In proposing this formal RM I have modified the proposal so that the "Norway" qualifier is added in brackets, in order to make it clearer. The proposed new article title better reflects the references to this league, and follows the higher levels (Tippeligaen, Adeccoligaen), which already have Norwegian-language titles. I believe there's no justification for the current made-up name. Eldumpo (talk) 18:46, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Ronald Gora → Ron Gora – "Ron Gora" is the name by which the subject was most commonly known during this competition swimming career. However, the page cannot be moved without the assistance of an administrator because someone has locked this page and the existing redirect "Ron Gora." There is not conflict except for the redirect that should be the article title per WP:COMMONNAME. Thanks. Relisted. BDD (talk) 18:42, 12 December 2012 (UTC) Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:53, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – FR-V → Fujitsu FR-V – I propose moving this article over its redirect Fujitsu FR-V in order to streamline it with other articles of microprocessors including the vendor name. FR-V should continue to exist as a redirect to the article in the new location (at least for now, see below).Reasoning: Most other microprocessor, microcontroller and signal processor articles in Misplaced Pages (actually most products of any kind) include the corresponding company name as the product code is often used for many different products of different companies. FR-V is one of the few exceptions in the processor category, and it is a particularly short and ambiguous one as well. We already have articles on two "FR-V"s, the Honda FR-V and the Fujitsu FR-V, and there are more articles under this name in other-language-Wikipedias, so it is likely that we will have more articles under this abbreviation in the future. For example, the ISO-3166-2 code for the French Rhône-Alpes is FR-V as well. As per WP:CRITERIA, the title should meet the following five criteria: Recognizability, naturalness, precision, conciseness, and consistency. The current title does not meet the two criteria of precision and consistency, whereas the proposed new title fulfills all five criteria. Relisted. BDD (talk) 18:27, 12 December 2012 (UTC) --Matthiaspaul (talk) 00:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Eugene Francis Kinkead → Eugene F. Kinkead – This page was moved about a week ago after a move proposal in which no one commented. The user who proposed the move is currently prohibited from making moves without first using the requested move process after they were have found to repeatedly ignore the basic rules of ] in an ANI discussion. While this specific move did use the proper process, the rationale was blatantly false and misleading. While the three pages linked in this article may use the subjects full name, Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) that these always do so regardless of what the subject is best known by. A google news archive search shows that almost all (and maybe even all) coverage of the congressman used the middle initial. Indeed, even the full name loving New York Times does not seem to go with the full middle name. While it may sound like I'm assuming bad faith here, it's hard to understand how an editor, who has been in numerous conflicts and has been reprimanded before for weaseling around common name requirements, could possibly find that the "bulk of references" available for this article use the name he proposed. Yaksar (let's chat) 09:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Alan K. Simpson → Alan Simpson – I'm really proposing two separate steps here: # moving Alan K. Simpson to Alan Simpson per WP:Commonname::* A Google news search for the past month brings up over 25 pages with the term "Alan Simpson" (of which only a couple or so seemed to not refer to the senator) and 2 pages with the term "Alan K. Simpson". The same disparity seems to exist in archive searches (I picked 1990 at random, and included the term "Wyoming" just to be safe).::*The official press release from the White House naming Simpson Co-Chairperson of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (certainly his most notable recent position), which I find to be a good example of the most formal level of coverage, does not use the middle initial.::*For his credited roles and published work he does not seem to include K.# making the page for this senator the WP:Primary Topic::*During the (basically) randomly chosen month of March 2011 (I didn't want to pick a recent date when views could be potentially biased by coverage of Simpson associated with the recent election) the senator's page received 18682 views. The closest runner-up from the names on the disambiguation page had only 259 during the same period.::*The senator's article has over 200 incoming links, while the others don't seem to have more than 10 (if even).:::*Note There seem to be a fair amount of incoming links to the page Galton and Simpson, although this is still at a level much lower than the senator's (and additionally many of these links seem to have come through the "Galton" redirect). Regardless, given that the pair seem to be best known by the current title using only their last names, there's not really any argument that this page would be the "Alan Simpson" primary topic.::*The third factor pointing to a primary topic, google searches, is discussed above.Thanks! -- Yaksar (let's chat) 02:57, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Arunachala → Annamalai – It is my understanding that the hill is more renowned by the Tamil name Thiruvannamalai (Thiru + Annamalai). The term Arunachala returns more results in Google because the term Arunachala may refer to the hill or the deity Arunachala(Arunachaleshwarar is the name of the deity Shiva of the Annamaliyar temple often called Arunachala) or to some extent also alludes to the Indian state with a similar name - Arunachal Pradesh. The name Arunachala is more often used to refer the deity and not the hill by the locals. I suggest that the move from Annamalai Hill to Arunachala be reverted on the basis that the term Annamalai unambiguously refers the hill whilst the term Arunachala is ambiguous. In an unrelated example, the Tirumala temple's historical tamil name is Thirumalai, but it is referred to in Misplaced Pages by its local language(telugu) name - TirumalaMoreover, I hate to judge the names by Google result count but because it was projected as the cause for the initial move I am projecting this. As of now, Google comes back with {| |- | | Results Count | | Search Term|-| 943,000 | Annamalai |-| 705,000 | Arunachala |-| 672,000| Annamalai hills|-| 140,000 | Arunachala hills|}Mr.Falcon (talk) 23:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Michael Mastro → Bankruptcy and extradition of Michael Mastro – This article was created as The Bankruptcy and extradition of Michael Mastro on October 24, 2012. The same day it was renamed to Michael Mastro with edit summary, "This article should be about the person, with the bankruptcy/extradition as a section of that article". That reasoning seems faulty to me. It makes no sense to name an article about one aspect of someone's life after the person rather than after the aspect. Now, if this person's entire life is notable and this article is about that, then it makes sense to make this into a biography named after him, the subject. But if the subject is only the bankruptcy and extradition, then it's really about that, and not about his entire life, so I think the title should reflect that. But it's obviously a controversial issue (see above), hence this proposal. What do you think? Relisted. BDD (talk) 19:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC) --Born2cycle (talk) 18:49, 13 November 2012 (UTC) Removed "The" from proposed title. --Born2cycle (talk) 00:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Sun-Sentinel → Sun Sentinel – I closed the above discussion removing "South Florida" from the title but not acting on removing the hyphenation. Obviously dissatisfied with this, the requester unilaterally moved the talk page and then made an "uncontroversial" technical request to move the article to make an end run around the close, which was surprisingly acted upon even though I dropped a note at the technical request indicating what was going on. Anyway, let's not focus on the conduct here but the merits. Should the page be moved to Sun Sentinel or not?

    Though Tenebrae noted that the Newspaper's website appears to drop the hyphen, the physical printed newspaper normally hyphenates "Sun-Sentinel", which you can see from a Google images showing pages from the print edition. Examples: , , , . It appears they may have recently started dropping the space and the hyphen, using a stylized camel case "SunSentinel" () and I did find a recent use by the newspaper with the space but without the hyphen: , so it's not perfectly clear cut what the newspaper itself uses. However, as I noted, the vast majority of reliable third party sources shown through a Google Book search use the hyphen. Given that I am making this request for consensus but think the current title should remain as I closed it, with the hyphen, it would avoid confusion if comments were prefixed with "keep hyphen" or "remove hyphen" or something similar, rather than "support" or "oppose".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:12, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

  • (Discuss) – Maldivian language → Dhivehi language – Dhivehi is the word referred to the language Maldivians speak and the official language of government of Maldives, Dhivehi is the language of Maldives spoken by Maldivians, Dhivehi is the common and official name referred to the language used by Maldivians, Maldivian is not referred or recognised as a language.Article 11 of the constitution states: The national Language of Maldives is Dhivehi language.See Dhivehi language used in local news eg: http://www.haveeru.com.mv/dhivehi/ (Look for definition of Maldivianhttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/Maldivian) AtefAadd (talk) 08:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Yan'ans on Literature and Art → Yan'an Forum – This article seems to be have its priorities in reverse and was not written by someone very familiar with the topic. This article should not be about Mao's speeches (not speech, there was more than one) at the Yan'an Forum which is what 延安文藝座談會 is typically translated as, but should simply be titled the Yan'an Forum where Mao gave his notable speeches about the course arts and literature should take in the PRC later published as "Talks at the Yan'an Forum of Literature and Art" and not "Yan'an Talks on Literature and Art" which is itself a mistranslation of the supposed Chinese title of the page 在延安文藝座談會上的講話.It was a forum, where over 100 people spoke, not simply Mao, yet there is no article for this on wikipedia yet. The article furthermore gives no context. The Yan'an Forum was a vital part of the Yan'an Rectification Campaign which is not mentioned until the end of the article and no connection between the two is established. A move to the Yan'an Forum on Literature and Art or Yan'an Forum on Arts and Literature would be equally acceptable. -Devin Ronis (d.s.ronis) (talk) 04:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Moravia-Silesia → Moravian-Silesian Region – Recently all Czech region articles were moved to have the word "Region" removed (South Bohemian Region → South Bohemia) or parenthesised (Zlín Region → Zlín (region)). I moved the ones named after cities back immediately as they were uncontroversial (Zlín is a city, not a region), but I though I'd bring the others here for discussion.Miďonek (talk · contribs) correctly observed that "South Moravia" and "South Moravian Region" mean slightly different things - the first refers to a historical territory (Jižní Morava) and the second to an administrative unit Jihomoravský kraj, which doesn't encompass the historical territory of South Moravia.My personal stance is that "Moravian-Silesian Region" is a preferable title, because "Moravia-Silesia" is not a historical territory (it is made up of parts of North Moravia and Czech Silesia) and the name is used by sources and is used by the administration itself. Also I think "Vysočina Region" is preferable to "Vysočina (region)" per WP:NATURAL - only use brackets if necessary. The other three I'm more or less neutral on, but if we keep them at their current titles we'll need to write the articles about the administrative areas AND the historic areas and point out the differences. - filelakeshoe 09:06, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Tales of Moonlight and Rain → Ugetsu Monogatari – The work appears to be known primarily by its Japanese name even in reliable English sources. Several sources cited in this article, including Washburn and Takata, clearly prefer Ugetsu. Google Scholar search indicates 556 hits for "Ugetsu Monogatari" and only 126 for "Tales of Moonlight and Rain". Google Books search was less lopsided, with "Tales of Moonlight and Rain" coming out on top (20,100>12,700). This indicates that while Tales of Moonlight and Rain is the most common English translation of the title as used in non-academic literature (i.e., translations for the general public), scholarly sources generally prefer to leave the title untranslated. I can speculate that this is because Ugetsu can be translated several ways, and while in recent years "Moonlight and Rain" has become favoured, it is not the only possible translation. UNESCO have used the more literal Tales of the Moon and the Rain, and other translations exist. Because the title does not literally/directly refer to the content of the stories, it has been interpreted several ways, and so the Misplaced Pages article's title choosing to support one translation may violate NPOV. elvenscout742 (talk) 06:55, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Template:Islamophobia → Template:Anti-Islamic sentiment – I do realise that much discussing has been done regarding this issue, but I think it right to bring it up again. I propose, once more, a renaming of this template to "Anti-Islamic sentiment". The key point I want to bring up is that the sheer controversy over the naming of this template should be enough to justify its renaming.Here's in response to those allusions to the antisemitism template, which the community won't rename to "Anti-Jewish sentiment". The fact is, the word "antisemitism" spurs no controversy over its political inclination. The content of the heated debates over the (twice) proposed deletion of the Islamophobia template clearly indicate that the term is at least controversial. An uncontroversial alternative would be as descriptive and would be better conformant to the neutral point of view.It is irrelevant to mention that the term Islamophobia is the most widely accepted term (whether or not it really is). If an equally descriptive, but uncontroversial (and in my opinion less politically inclined) term is possible, why not adopt it?The controversy over the term often comes from its roots. Some will point out that the suffix "phobia" means "an irrational fear of". Others will argue that the term is quite old and has somewhat lost it's relation to its lexical sense. The latter argument is just wrong. The term is consistently and almost exclusively used to describe (presumptively) unfounded anti-Islamic sentiment from a critical (read non-neutral) point of view. To state the irrationality of one's views against Islam is opinion based. To simply say that one has views against Islam is fact based (when they do, of course).There seems to be controversy over the inclusion of Jihad Watch in the template's listings. Why does this need be? Why do we have to use scholarly opinions as proxies for our deciding of what should be in our list, especially when factual based unbiased alternatives are possible? Changing the template's name to "Anti-Islamic sentiment" would allow us to group under a same listing all organisations and events expressing such sentiment, regardless of debates' outcome on whether it is either justified or irrational.--Nicolas Perrault III (talk) 23:03, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – List of ghost ships → Ghost ship – The "List of" doesn't belong at this title for the simple reason that there is no article titled "Ghost ship". This is one of those combined article/list pages which has some elements of article, some of list, some of set index. But, without a separate article called Ghost ship, there is no reason for this to be titled as a list. Ego White Tray (talk) 13:52, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Template:Cquote → Template:Centered pull quote – Something has to be done about rampant abuse of this thing. Years after the fact has been raised that this template is rampantly abused in thousands of articles, and raised again and then again (few templates have been narrowly TfD'd this many times), nothing been done to remedy the situation. It has simply gotten worse, with more and more and more articles every day abusing this as a block quotation template, and no one paying any attention at all to the template's own documentation saying "don't do that". The idea "{{cquote}} means block quotation" is demonstrably embedded, incorrectly but irreparably, into the Misplaced Pages psyche. I think the only solution at this point is to come up with a list of the 1% or so of pages that actually properly use this as a pull quote template, move this to, say, {{centered pull quote}}, and if we really need a short version {{cpquote}} as a redir, and then redirect {{cquote}} to {{quote}} after updating the small percentage of legit uses to call {{centered pull quote}}. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 15:23, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – 2-Methoxymethyl salvinorin B → Salvinorin B methoxymethyl ether – As I have noted in two papers on these compounds: "Although MOM-SB has been referred to as “2-methoxymethyl-salvinorin B”, this implies that the substituent is attached at C-2. The compound could be termed 2-O-methoxymethylsalvinorin B, but the simpler “salvinorin B methoxymethyl ether” is also unambiguous, and thus preferred under IUPAC recommendations to omit redundant locants." and similarly "... the incorrect name `2-methoxymethylsalvinorin B′, implying that the substituent is directly attached to C2, should be avoided." Although the incorrect name has appeared in several papers by non-chemists, no-one has attempted to defend it. Misplaced Pages could play a useful role in promoting the correct name. Tamunro (talk) 14:40, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Jacob Zeitlin → Jake Zeitlin – -- to explain why I thought this page should be re-named. Basically, it's because, as I understand it, Misplaced Pages biographical pages are supposed to be titled with the name under which a person was most commonly known or referred to. In Zeitlin's case, as far as I know *nobody* ever called him "Jacob," although his birth name was Jacob Israel Zeitlin. I do note that the Dictionary of American Antiquarian Book Dealers has him as ZEITLIN, Jacob "Jake", but UCLA Special Collections uses "Jake Zeitlin Papers" as the official name for his archives, and similarly the subject entry for his UCLA Oral History interview is under "Zeitlin, Jake." I'm pretty sure that his own writings (magazine articles and such) were by-lined "Jake" also, although I haven't done a thorough check on this. Will stop writing now, since I'm not even 100% you'll see this! Bookbuzzard (talk) 00:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – History of WWE NXT → WWE NXT – Basically, based on the discussion right above this one, the article "WWE NXT" was split up by user Kerbymanuel in a way that other editors such as myself and K.O. didn't agree with. The main article WWE NXT was moved to History of WWE NXT, carrying half of the information while the old page WWE NXT was replaced with the other half of the information. After discussion with K.O. we determined that the two separate articles were not neccessary, so I re-merged the article manually (actually restored it how it was before it was split up) but it seems that the new "WWE NXT" didn't have the edit history of the old one. Then I managed to bungle the moving of pages here and there. I'd hope an admin can help move this current page with the long edit history to WWE NXT, and delete the pages History of WWE NXT, WE NXT and Misplaced Pages: WWE NXT. --Relisted Cúchullain /c 03:39, 22 November 2012 (UTC)Starship.paint (talk) 10:00, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Don't Rush (song) → Don't Rush – This is the only article by the title "Don't Rush" and therefore should be at the non-disambiguated location. The dab page at Don't Rush was created prior to Clarkson's song being released, but that information about the two songs with links to the albums could be be kept in a hatnote at the top of Clarkson's song's article. Aspects (talk) 01:30, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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