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Follow up

Hi Ed. Just wanted to let you know as a follow up from our prior edit-warring, that Cantaloupe2 and I have gotten into another dispute on the PRSA article, which is currently pending GA review. I followed your advice and started a DRN string early in the dispute. Unlike previously, Cantaloupe's position is quite reasonable and I'm hopeful we can discuss it and compromise. Corporate 01:04, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Message received. But now that your account has been renamed shouldn't you be using CorporateM as a signature? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:47, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I would prefer to just go by Corporate in my signature, but if that's not kosher I'll change it. Corporate 15:40, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

There is already a User:Corporate on the English Misplaced Pages (who was not usurped) and you don't want to be confused with him. You asked for a change of user name so you should probably follow through. EdJohnston (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done

I think the dispute with Cantaloupe is resolved for now. User:CorporateM 21:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Ed, it has become pretty clear that I will need to get an IBAN with Cantaloupe2, who is still hounding me and being disruptive in my works-in-progress that I am bringing up to GA. I see that he exhibits similar harassment and stalking behavior with quite a few other editors and I am not expecting it to be fixed any other way.

What do I need to do to make this happen? He already demonstrated obvious ABF behavior by vandalizing Crashplan and the Hounding is without a doubt. I don't honestly believe that he thinks he is improving Misplaced Pages when he marks the New York Times as "better source needed" or jumps on my articles instead of waiting for a GA reviewer. CorporateM (Talk) 20:07, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I'd need to see a better case than the one you've provided here. Recently you made this edit. This takes out a reviewer comment, saying that it took over four hours for him to back up 321 megabytes. While forum posts are not usable, some of these comments were from a a reviewer for Techworld. Many people realize that online backup services are slow, so this is something that our readers may care about. You also are claiming 'vandalism'. In my experience many charges of vandalism are not correct, when the parties are having a content dispute. EdJohnston (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm.... I didn't notice that aspect of my revert, because I was just auto-reverting the personal blog he was adding to antagonize me. I had added myself through the request edit system "but the worst performer in archiving an entire system drive, which took almost five days." Regardless of whether he sometimes (by chance) has a reasonable POV, aren't there rules against stalking people? I mean I don't contest that we could probably find a better source for PRSA's publications, but I do find it disruptive that he is following me around and deleting my content faster than I can get a GA review. It seems like the only way to avoid his harassment is to be a perfect editor, because if I make even the smallest mistake he will be looking over my shoulder ready to pounce on it. Isn't that the point of Hounding? CorporateM (Talk) 20:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Just an FYI - we are at the edit-warring board again.

Appeal to the permanent block of User:Kuebie

EdJohnston, I would like to appeal to the permanent block of Kuebie by you regarding his or her actions on Pure blood theory of Korea, now merged to Korean ethnic nationalism. First, I would like to mention that I am currently involved in an ANI notice involving two editors, one of whom made the ANI notice that resulted in the block of Kuebie, and another of whom was involved in edit warring with Kuebie. Both these editors are currently involved in edit warring with myself "coincidentally" on all articles I am currently involved in. Second, I would like to state that Pure blood theory of Korea was a very repulsive article to Korean editors including myself, therefore I understand the emotional context under which Kuebie had behaved. I myself have been unable to make much contributions to the article at the time due to its repulsiveness and improper context. Nevertheless, I have made some edits. After couple of month in my absence and without my knowledge, Benlisquare, Quigley and Kubie were engaging in edit wars involving some of my edits. The "previous version" Quigley presented in the ANI notice is my own version, with a minor edit to spelling by another editor. In the next edit, this has been reverted by a series of edtis by an anonymous editor and Hwkwon. These reverts were not presented as the "previous version" by Quigley in the ANI notice. This has been reverted by Kuebie, the first revert presented by Quigley. This was reverted by Benlisquare, claiming my edits to be "poorly sourced". This lead to a partial second revert by Kuebie, presented as the second revert. This was then reverted by Quigley. This lead another revert by Kuebie, presented as the third revert. Then this was reverted by Quigley again, claiming that it is the "consensus version" despite the lack of consensus. This was reverted by Kuebie, reasoning that it is not the "consensus version", and presented as the fourth revert. Please review the "previous version" presented in the ANI notice and the fourth revert version by Kuebie. The only difference are two edits on Confucianism and the case of Kim Ilsung, both of which were my additions, one removed by an anonymous editor and another removed by Hkwon. I would like to appeal that these reverts were made in the course of edit warring, in which both parties are guilty of, and made under false pretenses in the ANI noticeboard. The "previous version" was practically that of my own, and I find the reverts made by Benlisquare and Quigley were made without consensus. This edit warring was done in my absence and without my knowledge. After this has come to my attention, I have engaged with Benlisquare in faithful discussions regarding the relevance of the contested material. For these reasons, I appeal to the unblock of Kuebie on the basis of this one particular incident, where both parties were edit warring, and the case was presented under false pretenses. I will not defend prior actions by Kuebie before this incident, but I ask that you review and judge upon this one particular incident. Cydevil38 (talk) 11:14, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

• Kuebie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

This is a block from August 2011. It is a conventional indef block that can be lifted by any admin. Kuebie was interested in the history of Korea, and he seemed to be determined to keep reverting to his own POV indefinitely. The problem was not one single event but a long-time pattern. He managed to get blocked by eight different administrators. I don't see an unblock as being likely unless he follows the steps of WP:GAB and makes a proper unblock request on his own talk page. He should explain what he intends to do differently in the future. We don't usually accept one person asking for unblock of someone else unless the block itself was a mistake. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 14:36, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Winter Wonderland

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.

Happy Holidays to you and yours. ```Buster Seven Talk 15:54, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

123brianbrain

Hey Ed, looks like we combined forces to block and notify User talk:123brianbrain, but didn't quite match! I was thinking indef, but I'll defer to you on the block time - feel free to change it! Dreadstar ☥ 04:49, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Indef is better, it just didn't occur to me. You are welcome to add whatever block notice you prefer. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Cool, I've added the notice. Dreadstar ☥ 04:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

And, happy holidays to you! Dreadstar ☥ 04:55, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks like Velebit, smells like Velebit...

Hi EdJohnston, Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. refers.

Talk back

Season's tidings!

To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 23:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Sock puppets

I believe these two editors are sock puppet accounts of one another. Is there a way to find out for sure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/216.106.111.168

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/99.248.114.33

Evildoer187 (talk) 04:10, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Also, I would like to know if there's a way to hide my talk page history from other users. User Ubikwit seems to be monitoring it and using allegations others have posted on my page as a means to discredit me. I am thinking of filing another complaint against him, but I'm not sure yet.Evildoer187 (talk) 05:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

..

Seasons greetings to you and yours
Dougweller (talk) 14:04, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Questions to an uninvolved admin

Is this not WP:CANVASSING. Will it have a sanction or not? (+ Admins do not have a responsibility to CU an IP that certainly is some user's sock, as may be understood so clearly in its first day edits?) Will you be kind enough to take this matter in your hands? Season's greetings. --E4024 (talk) 20:56, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ed. The anonymous user came to my talk to ask my advice. Please see from the links I provide that the above user failed to WP:AGF and he gave the newcomer threatening messages on their talkpage implying sockpuppetry and threatening section titles like "Never forget". By the way Best of the Season to you and yours. Take care. Δρ.Κ.  21:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

• 94.46.15.18 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Per http://94.46.15.18/ this computer is running a web server. Web servers are blocked as though they were open proxies, so I've blocked this IP for six months. The use of a web server is a technique for hiding the real IP you are editing from. This IP was previously blocked two months by Procseebot. The IP is returning right after the expiry of their previous block. EdJohnston (talk) 00:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. And another question: The IP has appeared suddenly and contributed to the split discussion at Cyprus article. I believe their edits should be cleared from there not to confuse the user who will close that request. No? Could you do something for that also? --E4024 (talk) 12:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ed, Could you please also check the 14.0.208.42 (talk · contribs), 14.0.208.51 (talk · contribs), 14.0.208.97 (talk · contribs), 14.0.208.113 (talk · contribs) is this also an open proxy? . Thank you 23x2 _φ 12:42, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The user who contributes from 14.0.208.* seems to be trying to cover his tracks and he is hopping IPs quickly. Unless you can find evidence of edit warring or improper behavior, I don't see any action that can be taken at present. I notice you also asked User talk:Elockid and he didn't notice any proxies. The IPs are from Hong Kong. He is interested in both Taiwan and Cyprus. He contributed (without any embarrassment) using three different IPs in a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Hong Kong#Concern over edits. EdJohnston (talk) 00:20, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Advice

Soon after Nableezy and I had a disagreement at Talk:Operation Pillar of Defense#Maan News regarding a newspaper that prints vile antisemitic slurs such as Jews across the world are cowards, a nation of agitators, and are slaves worthy of punishment, Nableezy proceeded to nominate my sandbox for speedy deletion. I do not appreciate this malicious hounding. Ankh.Morpork 21:57, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Um, that "sandbox" (quotes because that very obviously is not related to any article work) showed up in a google search for "سوسن نجيب عبد الحليم", which I searched for after you repeatedly brought up a completely irrelevant point on an articles talk page. You copied an entire article from another website, and then removed the speedy deletion nomination (a violation of the rules that is explicitly noted on the tag you removed) from an unambiguous copyright violation. That you follow the violation of both the law and Misplaced Pages policy with the unsubstantiated personal attack that maliciously hounded you is, well, kind of funny. nableezy - 22:01, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

That you consider a newspaper that prints vicious antisemitic vitriol a reliable source is far from humerous.Ankh.Morpork 22:08, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I have taken this to ANI. Ankh.Morpork 22:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Editing restrictions

Esoglou has again violated his editing restrictions. When is something going to be done about this? LoveMonkey (talk) 19:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

The editing restrictions on you and Esoglou are still on the books in WP:RESTRICT, but I have dropped out of enforcing them. Is there an actual dispute at Fourth Council of Constantinople (Eastern Orthodox)? The article contains both Eastern and Western elements, so it's not clear how to handle it. Would you prefer that the rule was interpreted so that neither of you could edit there? EdJohnston (talk) 20:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Help Please

The User:Nymf makes all undo what I edit in Misplaced Pages Article. I need help please. He undo all just annoy me. Without reference or without reason.

examples:

for example a new picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/Paul_Walker

list of Albanian americans delete he withot references and grounds. http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_Albanian_Americans

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Arta,_Greece&action=history

from older revision: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Jim_Belushi&oldid=530122564

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Belushi&oldid=530035768

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Masiela_Lusha&action=history

it can not go on like this.

Yours truly User:Anthony.al

Hello Anthony.al. I looked at your recent edit history, which is full of conflicts about Albania:

• Anthony.al (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

It looks like User:Qwyrxian has already given you some advice, which I think you should follow. It appears that you've been edit warring at Jim Belushi. If your edits are nationalistic or badly sourced you risk being sanctioned. In your entire history on Misplaced Pages it looks like you have never posted on an article talk page. Nationalistic edits about Albania and people of Albanian descent risk getting a warning under WP:ARBMAC. EdJohnston (talk) 01:28, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

User:Bidgee

Ed, please look at this report if you haven't already done so. I last blocked the editor on November 5. Their post-block behavior and the post-block wrangling by several admins, including me, wasn't pretty. Here is that discussion before it was removed by Bidgee - I believe it's fairly complete. Honestly, until I looked at the history, I didn't even remember the brouhaha from November.

Do you think I'm involved? I don't believe so as all of that was in an administrative context, and if we were to become involved just because an editor attacked us after a block, that would improperly cramp our ability to act. Still, I thought I'd ask your view.

Even if not involved, I haven't decided whether I will take any action on the report.

Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

• WP:AN3#User:Bidgee reported by User:EdChem (Result: Not blocked)
• Tony Greig (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Looks like User:Tariqabjotu has already closed the complaint with no action. If the reverts continue, I guess we will have a new ball game. The submitter did not ask for a block. Bigbee has 47,000 edits and he makes a large number of style fixes. A war sometimes occurs when the subject of the article is recently deceased. Still, it appeared to be five reverts. I don't think you became involved due to the previous case, but 3RR cases are usually closed by a one-admin decision. It would be sensible to not close two cases in a row involving the same person when the close might be disputable. EdJohnston (talk) 16:19, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Ed, glad I came here. Have a great new year!--Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Enough is enough

I am expecting some help from uninvolved admins, as humans and users, first of all, to stop certain BAD FAITH POV imposition to WP articles. You warned me about a silly edit on a silly issue in this area (which I had told you, before the warning, that you could revert) and now the same users who are trying to turn this to their national (and nationalist) WP, one of them with a pic of a so-called monument to ASALA terrorists (until I complained to an admin) another sending insults to my TP are making a Criminal Court of themselves and putting sentence to open cases in Turkish justice. Were you who told me the other day something like "it was good to have people like me (aka Turks) who could bring whatsoever positive to WP"; soon there will be none of those people left here... Who would like to be in a place receiving this treatment? Will this loss of contributors make WP better? (I came here to work and am working several hours a day, and could make only ONE short article until now, trying to stop WP from destruction all the rest of the time!) Have a good year; and it's in your hands not to be disturbed by me any more: Do nothing. --E4024 (talk) 21:56, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

"until I complained to an admin" I would like to see your complains. Also my user page content isn't your business. (Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks) especially when you're making it a discussion topic. And please explain what kind of insults did User:Proudbolsahye make on your talk page.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 22:07, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Can anyone tell me what this is about? EdJohnston (talk) 22:24, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for semi-protecting Hungarian occupation of Bačka and Baranja. That should help alleviate some of the nonsense... Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 02:57, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Inquiry

I cannot help but feel that several editors are monitoring my contributions and my talk page history. I honestly don't care who does it, or why? I don't feel comfortable having eyes on me at all times. Is there anything I can do to make it stop?Evildoer187 (talk) 12:33, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

If you want to edit in a highly contentious area, probably this is how you have to live. There are areas of the encyclopedia which are much quieter. EdJohnston (talk) 21:23, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Please help against vandalism

Hello dear Edjohnston,

as a user i have a problem, and i hope you can help me. I have uploaded a map, which is made by Professor M. Izady, Columbia University, USA. This map is describing the linguistic composition of middle east. And I have added that to wikipedia (Article: kurd ) or ( kurdish language ), in all languages in wikipedia. But a turkish fascist user, who hates kurds, delated my map. I did “undo” but now my commons picture ( the map ) is removed “becoz of licenzing”. I think, it is done by the same fascist user ( takabeg ):

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Takabeg

And now I don’t know what I can do against this vandalism. Here you see my scientifical source and the link to Professor Dr. Izady’s work in Columbia University.

http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/maps.shtml

http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/maps/Mid_East_Linguistic_lg.jpg

example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Kurdish_language

I thank you for your help and info. Best regards, Sagapane (talk) 19:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

From the page at I am guessing that a map which you uploaded at Commons was deleted there due to lack of copyright permission. I don't understand why you are asking me for 'help against vandalism', especially when you are referring to other editors as 'fascists'. Please be aware that administrators can take action against people who seem to be editing in support of their nationalist cause. EdJohnston (talk) 21:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

thank you for your answer, but columbia university allowd non commercial using of maps as scientifal source.

this person has no right to delete. the map was the same which you see here:

http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/maps/Mid_East_Linguistic_lg.jpg

thank you, Sagapane (talk) 23:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

The person who did the deletion is a Commons administrator. Permission for non-commercial use is not enough. The map bears a copyright notice showing M. Izadi as the owner. He would have to release the map under CC-BY-SA for it to be used in Misplaced Pages. EdJohnston (talk) 00:17, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

thank you for explain, he will do that, I will send a message to him again. Sagapane (talk) 19:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Tiggerjay (talk) 20:16, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

HPotato

Hi Ed and sorry for the trouble but somehow HPotato (talk · contribs) does not appear blocked. Best regards. Δρ.Κ.  22:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 23:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Ed. Take care. Δρ.Κ.  00:07, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Assistance

Hi Ed. Could I trouble you for a little assistance in a matter upon which you recently commented? My request that we bury the hatchet was met with this coupled with this. Apparently he would rather institute a "voluntary" article ban on me, and also insists that an off-topic tirade about a fellow editor (instead of edits) remain on an article Talk page -- an action that serves no useful purpose, and appears intended only to antagonize, complete with a challenge/dare that I do something about it. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 02:14, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

The comment in question is as follows:

"Xenophrenic, I strongly suggest that you voluntarily withdraw from editing this article. I do not believe that you are capable of editing it with a neutral point of view, and I am quite certain that your interpretation of Misplaced Pages's policies is incorrect."

Xenophrenic decided to edit the above comments to remove my criticism and has engaged in an edit war in an attempt to keep the comments out. I consider this to be vandalism of my comments and have treated it accordingly.

Please note that Xenophrenic has a habit of mixing his comments in with his reverts, so it may look like there is additional material being reverted. I have been reinserting his comments after rolling back the vandalism. Occasionally he reverts again while I was cutting and pasting, but it looks like I was always able to make it so that I was only removing the vandalism of other people's comments.

The "request that we bury the hatchet" was accompanied by persistent vandalism and edit warring. Apparently burying the hatchet requires that I accept vandalism of my comments. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Day Celebration and Mini-Conference in NYC Saturday Feb 23

You are invited to celebrate Misplaced Pages Day and the 12th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at Misplaced Pages Day NYC on Saturday February 23, 2013 at New York University; sign up for Misplaced Pages Day NYC here, or at bit.ly/wikidaynyu. Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues!

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!--Pharos (talk) 01:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Zappa thing - again

Hi Ed, re this: Please have a look at recent contributions Special:Contributions/Mmlov. I won't touch anything and will not report the user again. I'll leave that up to you, so to speak. Happy 2013, by the way! Cheers - DVdm (talk) 11:24, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I've semiprotected Frank Zappa and notified Mmlov again. Let me know if the problem continues. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 18:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Question

Am I about to be topic banned, or banned altogether from Misplaced Pages? I've noticed that some editors are in favor of this. I support the IBAN, but not the topic ban. My personal belief is that I will be able to work on these topics better once the IBAN is in place, as I will no longer feel as though I am being monitored relentlessly. Furthermore, my editing history will show you that I am more than happy to concede when it is clear that consensus is against me. Thank you.Evildoer187 (talk) 18:11, 2 January 2013 (UTC)