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Does this belong in the article? Enigma 18:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Title of this article

Note: The following discussion is moved here from my talk page. It is more appropriate here. I think that reverting to either the original title "Suffolk County Police Department (New York)" or EEng's suggested "Suffolk County (New York) Police Department" would be preferable. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

There is currently no other articles by the title "Suffolk County Police Department". It is entirely unnecessary to disambiguate the one in New York as such. The same goes for Suffolk County Sheriff's Office. Disambiguating it, but leaving the only redirect to it, is entirely unnecessary. Also, the English articles are at Suffolk Constabulary, not "County Police Department".—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

The reuse in state after state of names like Suffolk, Norfolk, Middlesex is so prevalent that the chance of their being another Suffolk County, with a Police (instead of the usual Sheriff's) Department is far from negligible. Why wait until there's a conflict and then do a confusing move? The article should be Suffolk County (New York) Police Department. EEng (talk) 02:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

But there is no other article with a similar title. Why bother disambiguating in the first place when it's the only one with that name?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there is no other article with the same title. However, if there is another "Suffolk County Police Department" in existence then it might cause confusion, whether or not there is an article with that title. Even in the case of a county "Suffolk" in which the local police force is not called the police "department", as in England, it is perfectly easy for someone to think that is the county being referred to. In this situation it seems to me that the disambiguation can do no harm, and may possibly sometimes avoid misunderstanding. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there's no other article... yet! But as already explained there's a reasonable likelihood there's another S.C.P.D. somewhere. wp:PLACE#Disambiguation is on point: "In some cases (as with most U.S. towns) it is conventional to add such a tag even when it is not strictly needed for disambiguation purposes" (but follow the link for a fuller explanation). The article on the county itself is Suffolk_County,_New_York and it's entirely logical for titles of articles on its administrative accessories to follow suit. Does Suffok Co., NY have a fire department? If so its article will need a digambuating qualifier, because there appears to be a "Suffolk County Fire Department" in Virginia. Why fuss around with a patchwork of special cases? What's the big deal? (Whether the parenthetical (New York) goes within the title, or at its end, I suspect is specified somewhere e.g. wp:PLACE.) EEng (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Reading the above discussion it is clear that there is no consensus for the change. In addition to this, there were two procedural faults in the way the page was renamed: (1) There was admin-shopping. That is to say, the move was requested, rejected by an administrator, and then requested again, in the hope that another administrator would do it. This practice of trying successive admins until you get one who does what you want is not considered acceptable. (2) The article was tagged with {{db-move}}. This tag asserts that the move is non-controversial, but the tag was re-added after the tag had already been declined by an administrator. In this situation it is impossible that the tagging could be thought to be "non-controversial", and so it should not have been used. This issue was discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Law Enforcement, and the disambiguation was added as a result of that discussion. Anyone wishing to revert that change should discuss it first. For all these reasons the article should be moved back to the disambiguated version. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. There are no other articles on Misplaced Pages with the title "Suffolk County Police Department". Therefore, there should be no disambiguation on this page simply because this refers to the Suffolk County of New York.—Ryulong (琉竜) 07:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

The red highlight on the map on upper right of article is inaccurate.

The red highlighted map is supposed to be identifying the area of Suffolk County on Long Island, NY. But in reality it's identifying only half of the county. I recommend that the map shown on wikipedia page Suffolk_County,_New_York be used. Blackslax (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

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