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Portal:Judaism/New article announcements

That's a good idea! I will make sure to add new articles to the announcement page. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 13:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Saints Wikiproject

I noted that you have been contributing to articles about saints. I invite you to join the WikiProject Saints. You can sign up on the page and add the following userbox to your user page: {{User Saints WikiProject}}.

Thanks! --evrik 18:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

AFAIR

what does it mean? elizmr 20:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes they are nice colors. I stole them from you! (THANKS) elizmr 20:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Jewish history portal

Still there are some articles that belong neither to Israel nor Judaism, e.g. Shanghai ghetto. Do you think we need Portal:Jewish history and Portal:Jewish history/New article announcements?

Yeah, I think that would be a good idea. Some articles (such as a bio of a famous rabbi) might fall under "Judaism" and "Jewish history" but they could easily be listed under both categories (by the same token, an article could fall under "Judaism" and "Israel" or "Israel" and "Jewish history" Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 23:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I made a couple of adjustments (added a "Members" section, a couple of new articles, and a few sample categories). Should we a do an "Article of the week/month" section? I'd be happy to help with updating it but I'm not an expert on formatting. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 14:23, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

bloger

Sorry if I offended you as I looked at your profile I see that you are a religious Jew and I understand that you are a Zionist supporter and you have all rights to be defended.

The group True Torah Jews is a completely independent group and with no affiliation to any other anti-Zionist group

I will put the info in the page True Torah Jews but I will take the word fringe out because the group is far from fringe. Bloger 23:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Please practice what you preach!!

If my or your beliefs do not matter why did you conclude without having any knowledge that this is a fringe group??

The only reason I can think you did so is because you did put your personal belief into it.

The article I wrote is neutral because it gives facts, and doesn’t take sides like if they are right or not.

Please define what you mean by fringe if you want me to show you why I think its not fringe

Bloger 00:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

You’re right on that point I really don’t know I just assumed because you sounded offended

Bloger 00:29, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

True Torah Jews

How can you ask me to be neutral (which I am B.T.W. at least in my writing) when you are so obviously the apposite.

You edited the page to True Torah Jews and slanted the info so that the group looks bad.

Firstly, you probably looked at there web site, and all you found is that they claim the holocaust is the fault of the Zionists?!

The sites # 1 goal obviously is to educate the public that authentic rabbis that were world-renowned and universally accepted to be the biggest torah scholars among the orthodox Jewish leadership were apposed to Zionism.

The sites # 2 goal is to educate people that support Zionism out of concern for the safety of the Jewish people that not only has it not made the Jewish people safer, but to the contrary, it made the Jewish people less safe in Israel and around the world.

The # 3 goal is to educate people why Zionism is against the torah.

And yes it also clams that the Zionist ambushed the rescue efforts made by some during the holocaust, thinking that the brutality of the holocaust would help them in there course of establishing a Jewish state which it did.

Those are the facts that everyone with an open mind – no mater what your feelings are towards Zionism - sees when he looks at the site. Nevertheless, all you found was that they say the holocaust is the fault of the Zionists and that they participate in anti Israel public campaigns, isn’t that being biased?? Moreover, you edit pages in the wikipidia according to your biased holdings, only to bash me for not being even handed, when all I reported were only the facts??

Secondly, the group was not severely criticized as you claim, the reference you site, is against the Neturei Karta group, although they used the name True Torah Nazis changing it from True Torah Jews that’s probably because just like you they can’t - or don’t want - to differentiate between the two groups, that aren’t affiliated in any way.

Thirdly, as I said the group is not fringe in any way, one small proof to that is that I know for a fact that in the satmar synagogues a fundraising appeal is made each and every year for True Torah Jews ,I think that a group like satmar with its 100,000 members participating in its financial well being gives legitimacy to a group, at least to the extend not to be called fringe

Bloger 20:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I will put a copy of this post on the discussion page for people to decide for themselves

You are an administrator and stronger than me in that respect so I guess you don’t have to comply with rule WP:3RR since you overruled it today

Bloger 23:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I wasn’t going to put the entire page back I was going to correct your page instead but someone redirected it to Neturei Karta and since I don’t have any other version I put mine back

Bloger 17:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

True Torah Jews is non profit as you can verify here

Your acusation than “The group blames the Holocaust on Zionism and Zionist leadership” is false, it instead it claims that the Zionist leadership “ambushed rescue efforts” made by some during the holocaust, thinking that the more brutal the holocaust was going to be the more it would help them in there course of establishing a Jewish state, which is completely different from “blaming the Holocaust” on Zionism and Zionist leadership.

The group was never severely criticized, as were other anti Zionist groups.

The group does not participate in protest together with Arab’s like the Neturei Karta, it only participates in protest backed by there rabbis.

And as I said before I think that a group with support of 100,000 people sarmar isn’t fringe

Bloger 18:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Shanghai ghetto, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Ten Commandments

The "Ten Commandments Spoiler" is still adding his tag. Since it runs a fine line between vandalism and content dispute I can no longer correct the article as I will go 3RR in doing so. As it is, the anon with the "spoiled" agenda has now gone 5RR trying to prove his point. Any thoughts? Thanks and take care! Anger22 23:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Deleting Image:Coolness.jpg

Hi Humus sapiens. On May 10, 2006 you deleted Image:Coolness.jpg, providing "obscene image" as the deletion comment. The criteria for speedy image deletion say nothing of an image's content. I would like to know why you did not follow procedure and tag the image with {{nsd}} or list it at IfD. Thanks. ~MDD4696 14:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Hebrew spelling, other stuff

Hi, while you have not been involved in Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (Hebrew), you did edit many Israel-related articles and seem to be interested in it, so please check out Talk:List of Egged bus lines. We are having a dispute over 2 issues: Hebrew transliateration/interpretation of Misplaced Pages policy regarding it, and something that relates to the subject of the article (if you know about it, feel free to comment as well). Thanks. -- Template:Country data flagicon Ynhockey 20:35, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Makhir

made a small adjustment. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 04:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

True Torah Jews

Hi, I posted a defense of the article True Torah Jews, I would like to ask you to be so kind and read it, and than rethink your position on deletion.

Bloger 00:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Makhir of Narbonne, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

White Supremacy

I disagree that what I did on the "White Supremacy" page is vandalism. What I added is a FACT.

Palestine Children's Relief Fund

Let me preface this by the fact that I have no interest in this article one way or another. We have received a complaint at the Wikimedia foundation (see OTRS regarding certain POV pushing of this article and accusations of ownership. I reviewed the article and could see no relevant reason to include Charities accused of ties to terrorism, regardless of the information in the prior paragraph.

The inclusion of this link appears to be specifically designed to lead the reader to a preordained conclusion, and should be considered POV. Please reconsider your revert of this. I have no desire to become embroiled in an article dispute about this, or bring this up for RFC. Misplaced Pages is not a forum for making points. Bastique▼voir 19:57, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention. This, as you know, is a sensitive issue with very strong viewpoints on both sides. Because of the email we recieved, I have brought this to the attention of the m:OTRS committee and we'll be working to try to help bring this article to a healthy medium. Topics involving ongoing conflicts require objective viewpoints. Bastique▼voir 20:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

User Threatens Over Removal of link to Porn

Would you take a look at the postings at the end of my home page by user User:Gooverup? He placed a link on the Maria Sharapova page to supposedly nude pictures of her. I removed it and placed a level one vandalism note on his talk page. I'm not sure but it looks like a physical threat to me. User:Rekalov has just reverted it, after he restored it.

I'd appreciate some intervention, if you feel it's warrented, or if another admin doesn't get there first. --CTSWyneken 16:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)