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Catalan mythology

I've never actually been involved in any mythological articles, and I don't remember why I created the redirect. I suspect that I typed "Catalan mythology" into the search box, discovered that it didn't exist, and created a redirect to the existing Catalan myths and legends article, to help people find the existing article. I would have no objection to you moving Catalan myths and legends to Catalan mythology; I don't know anything about how those articles are usually named. Good luck! -- Creidieki 22:18, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Guess who

Go on, guess. Plasticbagparachute 20:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm here only for peaceful purposes, but i suggest you look at donncha's page Plasticbagparachute 22:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey Ian, how do I revert changes made to my page by certain shrews? Plasticbagparachute 14:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your post on the Falun Gong Talk Page

Friend, I read you post on the Falun Gong talk page. The page was locked after a great deal of vandalism and there is a lot of such material and non-facutal stuff inside. I request your help in editing the article. And also with the page : Falun Gong Teachings

You may also get to better understand the cultivation system of Falun Dafa from the website www.falundafa.org Thanks. Dilip rajeev 11:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

On Swastika

I understand that Hitler appropriated the ancient Symbol for his use.. You may aprreciate my edit better if you see the last version:"The Falun emblem is the symbol of the Falun Gong. According to Li “this Falun emblem is the miniature of the universe.” The central character is the Chinese 卍, wàn. Unfortunately, the similarity to the Nazi Hakenkreuz provokes relapse in schizophrenics, who perceive spurious connections."  :)

The Swastika is an ancient symbol that appears in many traditions from the mayan, the mesopotamian, The Greek to the The indus Valley Civilization ( which according to the theories of present day anthropology was wiped out in the "Aryan" Invasion ):

Infact a lot of what the texts on anthropolgy tell is far from accurate. We have enough evidence to completely re-write the books on anthropolgy. The swastika is not an invention of any religion or culture. Gautama Buddha didnt take the Symbol from Hinduism. This is because they consider the Dharma to be some form of speculative philosophy and theory taken from old texts... The ancient scriptures of vedic India solemnly affirm that the Dharma is not specualtve Philosophy. The Buddhist Scriptures tell us:

" The Dhamma is not a speculative philosophy, but is the Universal Law found through enlightenment and is preached precisely. "

I'd be glad if you could contribute to the article... Falun Dafa is an ancient cultivation practice ( direct translation of the Chinese Term Xiu Lian ), a Great Way (Dafa) of the Buddha School ( pls dont confuse with the relgion of Buddhism). You may get to understand the cultivation system of Falun Dafa from the page www.falundafa.org . Thank you.

Dilip rajeev 11:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Berties Oratory Skills

Hi Elevenscout, I was the author of the sentence that you removed as vandalism. I have added my response to Talk:Bertie Ahern, can you take a look and let me know if you can change your mind. -- Rye1967 00:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi there...not sure if this was you logged out... :-) --HappyCamper 20:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Is that right? Are all those IPs vandalism edits then in the page history? --HappyCamper 20:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm...well, it sure looks like it. I'm going to semi-protect the page. It seems to be the best solution, given that the vandalism is chronic. Cheers! --HappyCamper 20:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Consider yourself armed with an admin on your side :-) I'll do my best to make sure these accounts act in accordance with Misplaced Pages's established policies and best practises. After all, we are here because we want to write a good encyclopedia! Vandalism edits are contrary to that cause. Just come by and leave a message whenever you feel like it, and I'll take the time to look into things for you. See you around! --HappyCamper 20:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi there - I think a few months should be plenty so I've lifted it. I'll check up every now and then. Let me know if you have questions. --HappyCamper 02:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Huh

Why did you vandalize a fellow user's user page? --D-Day) 20:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

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Laozi

You seem to have missed the evidence that I gave; I listed a number of books on philosophy, Asian philosophy, and Chinese philosophy (in order of specificity); the spelling used was overwhelmingly "Laozi".

Ah, I've just found my comment in the Talk page archive:

A quick and unscientific survey of fairly recent reference books to hand, plus some Web-based texts:

• Laozi

1. Companion Encyclopedia of Asian Philosophy (edd Carr & Mahalingam)
2. A Companion to World Philosophies (edd Deutsch & Bontekoe)
3. A Companion to the Philosophers (ed. Arrington)
4. Eastern Philosophy: Key readings (ed. Leaman)
5. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
6. Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
7. Chad Hansen's Philosophy Pages

• Lao-zi

1. One Hundred Philosophers (Peter J. King}

"Lao Zi" doesn't appear anywhere, and "Laozi" is the clear front runner. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

You say: "It seems to me that none of the references you give are sources specifically devoted to him - only "encyclopedias of philosophy" and the like". True — but Misplaced Pages is also not a specialised work, but a general encyclopædia, so these references are particularly relevant. As I said in my original comment (from which the figures above are taken), there's no single answer to the question "which transliteration is more common?", as different transliterations will be common in different fields. We need to decide which field is most appropriate for our purposes.

Note that "reliability" doesn't really come into it; the various transliterations are equally correct — they're all attempt to capture in the Roman alphabet the sound of the Chinese by applying a set of conventions, and they're all bound to fail (for example, in so far as there isn't a single Chinese pronunciation across time and geography). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message; I'm still unclear, though, why you think that specialised works are more likely to use the more generally-used and popular transliteration than general, more popular works. As things stand, we're in line with the two main on-line philosophy encyclopædias and most of the on-line Chinese-philosophy sites, as well as some – at least – of the printed translations and other specialised texts (e.g. The Classic of the Way and Virtue: A New Translation of the "Tao-te Ching" of Laozi as Interpreted by Wang Bi transl. Richard John Lynn and The Daodejing of Laozi transl. Philip J. Ivanhoe ). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Yo!

Hiya Ian. Dan. Ooer... I was a wondering... You put Antoku Tennō into yo thar hero list for "bravery". However, it appears he was drowned with by and with his grandmother at the age of 6.

If I get drowned by a relative sometime soon can I be in the list too?

Pweez!

Oh btw, how'd you do in japanese, fool! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dantastic (talk • contribs)

Your edit to Culture of India

Hi, can you explain this this edit of yours to the abovenamed article? You have not entitled us to an edit summary, unlike my edit. Please acknowledge this message. Thanks and regards, --Nearly Headless Nick 12:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help; and er... Happy Birthday. :) --Nearly Headless Nick 13:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Genpei War

I'd like to go ahead and expand the Genpei War article, based on inspiration from the entire sections present in the French version that were absent in the English version. Are you back from your two-week hiatus? I don't want to step in and do too much before you've had a chance to go in and do what you wanted to... LordAmeth 00:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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Lafcadio Hearn

Regarding this edit to the Lafcadio Hearn article: Although Lafcadio Hearn is largely forgotten in the West, he is still remember and respected by the Japanese for his books collecting Japanese legends and ghost tales. Therefore I am restoring the phrase "to the Japanese" to the intro of the article. 10:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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What is origin of this  ? Nasz 10:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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Sinn Féin

The name is sometimes translated as in different books as 'ourselves alone' or 'we alone' this is incorrect, as it means 'ourselves' or 'we ourselves' this is a translation from Irish Gaelic to English, so the text in the article is correct.--padraig3uk 22:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

In English they may mean the same, but in the article we are refering to different sources ie books that mis-translate the meaning from Irish to English, so in that context the wording is correct.--padraig3uk 14:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

THE Swordsman

i'm sorry Elvenscout742, the DVD cover uploaded has such poor resolution i couldn't see the "The" and mistook "Swordsman" to be the original title. i will move the article back to its original title and upload a DVD cover art with a slightly better resolution. Thanks for the heads-up! --Plastictv 04:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

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Chronic Vandal Magnet

Seriously, dude, if your userpage is for real I think you need to pay closer attention to it. There's some pretty foul stuff there. One option is to ask an admin to protect it, but I think a better solution would be for you to read WP:NOT#MYSPACE and take some action on that yourself. Just sayin'... (anonymous here, because, well, yeah.) --69.19.14.19 22:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Double check...

A lot of vandalism has crept in. I removed all of it I think - just double check at your convenience: --HappyCamper 04:32, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Done. I think we'll keep it this way. --HappyCamper 22:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Please let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for helping out! ···日本穣 08:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello mate, can you help me please

Its about a Chinese girl who becomes an assassin but runs away. She eventually finds a girl but is intercepted on the road by 3 or 4 soldiers. After killing them, she returns back to her adopted home to find out theres been a battle and a deranged white haired bloke is the sole survivor. After killing him, she discovers one of her mates has also survived and the both of them swear revenge on the Chinese Lord responsible which happens in the sequal.--SGCommand (talk • contribs) 17:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, thats the one!--SGCommand (talk • contribs) 09:52, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

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Han (state)

"shares Chinese characters" implies the name of the said state is only written the same. The State of Han and South Korea are both written and pronounced the same in Chinese and I therefore do not see how it would confuse speakers of other East Asian languages. Thanks for the concern however. If it is confusing to you, I would be happy to explain any of your questions. Hanfresco 06:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

which shares the same name - I changed it to that..but it sounds rather awkward. perhaps which shares the same name in East Asian languages? Hanfresco 00:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Or which shares the same name in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. I have no clue of use in Mongolian you see. Hanfresco 00:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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Nihon Shoki

I think you mis-construed the reference to 660 BC. The gravamen of this section explains that what was once assumed to be "fact" is now believed to be mythical. Your mis-reading suggests that this paragraph was not written well enough, but I don't quite see how an in-line citation will help. What did you have in mind? Maybe I'm the one who's missing the point?

As I understand it, in 1872, the Meiji government proclaimed that February 11, 660 BC in the Gregorian calendar would be considered the foundation day of Japan. This mythical date was commemorated in the holiday Kigensetsu ("Era Day") from 1872 to 1948. The concept was resurrected in 1966 as the national holiday Kenkoku Kinen no hi ("National Foundation Day").

• See ...Rimmer, Thomas et al. (2005). The Columbia Anthology of Modern Japanese Literature, p. 555 n1.
• See also National Foundation Day and Emperor Jimmu

How would you propose we might improve this section of Nihon Shoki? --Ooperhoofd (talk) 19:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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In fact, even though I'm not an expert in French or American literature, I have already heard of 2/3 of those literary movements. All of them pre-date the starting point you and Mr. Woodward give for "modern tanka prose" in English. And none of the articles give the impression that they were written by a single editor with an agenda, based exclusively on obscure primary sources. elvenscout742 (talk) 16:48, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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"Narihara"

Sorry. I screwed up, didn't I? :( -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 06:03, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

You misspelled one name. It's no big deal! :D

I said "Wow" because that article came up in a search for "Narihara", which is a recurring misspelling of that person's name. I was shocked at the prevalence of the spelling online (60,000 hits on Google) and had just come from creating redirects for it to the proper article. I was not trying to make fun of any particular Misplaced Pages editor. :)

elvenscout742 (talk) 06:06, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Maybe I should clarify. I saw your redirect creation with the edit summary of how common that misspelling was, and realise that I've been a part of it. It's quite a silly mistake that I made, and I found it quite funny and ironic that I'm not the only one. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Google "Jeffrey Woodward" Narihara for more information. And that guy has had dozens of articles and books published, including some that get cited on Misplaced Pages. elvenscout742 (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

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Several years ago, I uploaded a photo of myself here for my user page. I have not used it there in over two years, and I don't intend to ever use it again. However, since it is also on my Facebook page, it is an indirect link to my real-world identity, and would like it deleted. However, the criteria for speedy deletion mention an "article" to which a single user was the only notable contributor and that user requests its removal in good faith, but nothing about an "image". Can anyone help me?

I'll tag it for speedy deletion immediately if someone can tell me.

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For future reference, {{db-author}} corresponds to WP:CSD#G7 and applies to any kind of page. Your request here is good enough - I have deleted it for you. JohnCD (talk) 16:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

A thousand thanks to you!! :D elvenscout742 (talk) 16:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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You may well be right. Though we may not necessarily be talking about exactly the same type of case, I think the principles of WP:ROPE are probably worth applying here too. If the article is deleted, you might find that the editors in question simply give up and go away. If not, and they start editing disruptively, I can only imagine others will come down on them hard without the need for you to take any action. So let's just give them enough rope to hang themselves if they are determined to do so.

Besides which, given you involvement so far, any first strike-style action in anticipation of what they might do would probably be considered a bit pointy. Regardless of how "accurate" it might be, you'd probably be best leaving it alone for now. Stalwart111 (talk) 00:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Have responded here. elvenscout742 (talk) 00:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I get what you mean. Yeah - I think you could, but it might just be worth waiting until after consensus has been reached at the AFD. That way you can make your changes with more impunity; citing the community consensus that the links/sources/assertions do not meet WP standards/guidelines. Otherwise you run the risk that your edits look to be pre-empting the closure of that AFD - even if we know in advance what the result is likely to be. On the other hand, you are free to be bold and make the changes in the interests of a better encyclopaedia. The risk you run is that they could be reverted by someone citing the fact that community consensus is still unclear. For what it's worth, my advice would be to wait, let the AFD run its course and then implement the consensus by making the edits, even if it means a bit of questionable material stays in for a few days. Stalwart111 (talk) 02:15, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

That's rather nice of you - thanks! Stalwart111 (talk) 00:40, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Interests

Hi! It seems that we have similar interests (Japanese art/history). Perhaps we could work together on an article someday or share resources or something (some of the stuff I have access to I listed here). Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you need anything of it or if I can be of any other help with an article. I also have access to questia, credo references and highbeam. BTW, I recently wrote Fujiwara no Hirotsugu Rebellion which I hope to nominate at WP:GAN at some point. It would be good if somebody who knows about the topic could have a second look at it. Also I did not include any Japanese sources such as those listed on top of User:Bamse/Fujiwara_no_Hirotsugu_Rebellion (after "RS:"). If you have the time to take a look or even to expand the article with info from the Japanese sources that would be great, if not that's fine as well. No worries. bamse (talk) 09:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Stupid targeted advertising

Just see what getting involved with prosimetra has done! Now I'm getting ads for Amazon's Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetry and Poetics page showing up on various Web sites. :-) Deor (talk) 14:27, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I wish Misplaced Pages had a Facebook-style "Like!" function LOL elvenscout742 (talk) 15:24, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Personal Remarks

I’ve read your long note on my user talk page, have fairly weighed your words there and have now deleted your comment. Please do not view my personal page as one more platform for pursuing your personal disagreements with me. You’ve found ample space elsewhere to do that. And do feel free, of course, to delete this note in turn. Civility is a two-way street. Tristan noir (talk) 06:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I posted that as a warning that if you continue to make ridiculous personal attacks against me in order to advance your personal agenda on the Misplaced Pages articles that cover classical Japanese literature, I intend to take my case to the ptb in Misplaced Pages. It was not a personal attack, but a friendly warning. It would have been inappropriate for me to post such a warning anywhere other than your user page. Please do not view your user talk page as a "personal page" that belongs to you. It is for discussion of Misplaced Pages content, just as much as anywhere else on this website. elvenscout742 (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Blanking on Ni-Oh AfD

I take it your blanking of much of the debate was inadvertent? You may want to refactor your comments without blanking. Thanks! Qworty (talk) 08:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: More spam

Sorry it's taken me a few days to get back to you. Re: the AFD; they generally run for 7 days and are then either relisted or closed with a result. Since you posted the note to me there has been a few other comments and a good consensus seems to be building so I would just let it run its course. Has run a few days over but an admin will get to it eventually. Re: the other articles. I think it is very clear (at least it should be to most regular WP editors) that the editor in question has exhibited all the behaviour of someone simply WP:NOTHERE to build WP. Unfortunately, though, I think its time just to give him some WP:ROPE and let some other editors deal with him for a while. Rather than trying to stop every bad edit, maybe just let him go for a bit. Let him spam away for a few days and build evidence against himself. The problem with your being constantly vigilant is that he hasn't been given the chance to really do the damage he clearly wants to do. As a result, other editors assume good faith and defend his right to have all the rope he pleases. I know it might be immidiately contrary to the best interests of WP, but letting him spam away with impunity for a while will show him for what he really is. The alternative is that he will see that his current attitude is blatantly contrary to productive WP editing and he will see the error of his ways and will show some restraint or lose interest in spamming WP with WP:FRINGE rubbish. Let him do his thing and let a couple of admins experience the personal attacks he resorts to when reprimanded for his questionable conduct. He won't last long. Stalwart111 (talk) 01:31, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

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Renku

Hi Elvenscout. I'm curious as to your thinking regarding this edit to the Renku article. I was inclined to do a partial revert, but thought it might be useful (and more civil) to pick your brains first. I agree with your removal of Lisheanu; and Simply Haiku, though it continues at another url, no longer publishes renku. But why did you remove the Journal of Renga and Renku? It's a substantial print periodical, including heavyweights such as Horton, Drake and so on, and is the only journal in the west devoted to the genre. Several of the items you left in are trivial by comparison. In your summary, you mentioned, "Darlington Richards is expecting to publish a THIRD issue sometime NEXT YEAR". It's an annual publication, so I don't really grasp the relevance of this comment. Thanks for any explanation. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 12:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I've copied this conversation to Talk:Renku as it is of relevance to the article and may be of interest to other editors. I've added a further comment, to which I'd appreciate your reaction. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 20:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Elvenscout742. Thanks for your message on my talk page. I have replied there. JamesBWatson (talk)

MfD nomination of User:Elvenscout742/Jeffrey Woodward critique

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closure

I've never closed an AfD before and probably broke a rule but figured since you withdrew it would save some time to close with a speedy keep. If you want to revert no problem I can undo it. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 06:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Email

Thanks--I figured the first one easily enough, and the second one is a name that I had come across myself so you confirmed my suspicion. Not that it really matters much, it just means we need to keep an eye on the article. Drmies (talk) 15:15, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: TN's behaviour

Hi, sorry it took me a couple of days to get back to you. Rather than any other route (too many and you'll be accused of forum shopping) I proposed a solution at WP:ANI. I think it has the potential to stop the drama between you and TN and get you both working on some productive editing in totally unrelated areas. You can see my suggestion there.

It will mean you both need to find some other area(s) to contribute if you wish to continue contributing to Misplaced Pages productively.

Can I strongly suggest that if you are going to respond to my suggestion, you limit your response to a simple indication of acceptance or not and a brief explanation of your position. You have a right of reply (of course) but I would counsel you to limit your reply to an actual reply to my proposal (as opposed to any further criticism of TN). Please do not feel you must accept my proposal because I suggested it or because it is the only one that has been suggested. You need to make your own decision and decide for yourself. But I made it in good faith, in an attempt to get everyone to move on. Cheers, Stalwart111 23:25, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Move protocol - RM Glossary of literary terms

Elvenscout742 - Nothing wrong with the move of this article, but you should close the Requested Move discussion with the {{subst:RM top}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} templates so the discussion is removed from the RM summary page. When you don't close the discussion, it will stay in the backlog and it can be confusing to find an open discussion on an article that's already been moved. You can find the complete set of RM closing instructions at: WP:RMCI. Thanks --Mike Cline (talk)

Articles for deletion is badly formatted

Your proposal for deletion "Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Assassination of Tomomitsu Taminato" is incorrectly formatted somehow and it is not showing up correctly: (it appears here) JoshuSasori (talk) 02:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Film titles and a strong request to please read sources, policy documents before editing and request to read what I have written before responding

Please can you stick to the MOS:FILM conventions for film titles? It's particularly unfortunate that you chose to add this title since it is the English title of a 1980 film based on the play. Is it too much trouble for you to read things or check things before you start editing? It is a lot of work for me to keep on responding when you keep on refusing to read policy documents and refuse to read what I have written in response to you. I politely request you to (a) read what I have written before responding to me (b) read the Misplaced Pages policy documents before making claims about what they say. Thanks. JoshuSasori (talk) 15:29, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

As I have already posted on your talk page, WP:UE states that we should provide a gloss for foreign terms that are unfamiliar to English-speaking readers. Additionally, MOS:FILM does not mention anything about foreign film titles except to redirect the reader to Misplaced Pages:NCF#Foreign-language films, which clearly states:

If the film was released in the English-speaking world under its native title, use that throughout the article, but include an English translation in brackets after the first use. Do not put the English title in bold, as this is not an 'official' title. If the native title contains characters not in the Latin alphabet, such as syllabaries or Chinese characters, treat the romanization as the common title and include the native alphabet and any other transliterations.

My edit to the article in question was entirely in line with this guideline. elvenscout742 (talk) 15:37, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

My Darling is a Foreigner

See Talk:My Darling Is a Foreigner (manga) - I found evidence that it was published in North America WhisperToMe (talk) 19:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the licensing of Tolkien's later works

Hello, We had a discussion a little while ago on the talk page of the Hobbit AUJ. I don't suppose it matters terribly much any more, as the discussion seems to have moved on and much of the introductory section of that Article seems to have settled down. Nevertheless, I thought you might be interested in reading this article on Christopher Tolkien's attitude towards the use of his father's works for the big screen, and why he refuses to license those works not sold in 1969. Also, this incredibly rare interview with Christopher himself sheds a little more light on the matter. I hope you had a pleasant New Year. Wishing you all the very best for 2013. Michael --Mja58 (talk) 12:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Ugetsu

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To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Sorry, I'll try to be good from now on. But I would still appreciate if the other users involved in the dispute would consider WP:AGF, WP:NPA and WP:V before accusing me of violating WP:3RR. elvenscout742 (talk) 04:05, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Saito

In case you're not watching it, I did make a suggestion after closing the withdrawn move request at Talk:Saito. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Apology

Apology accepted and I apologize for mine. Ribbet32 (talk) 23:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

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Please tidy up your edit

Please tidy up this edit by adding an = sign between "url" and the url. Also please add a title. If you examine Ugetsu as of your recent edit, you will note that your added citation caused a large piece of red text to appear in the references. Also, please note this is a primary source, and it does not directly support the claim that the film is in the public domain. That is a conclusion you have drawn from the low price. It would be better to use a secondary source which actually clearly says that the film is in the public domain, if you can find one. Thanks. JoshuSasori (talk) 01:46, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

It's not my claim -- it comes from Japanese Misplaced Pages. And the WP:BURDEN here is on you to prove that the film is not in the public domain, if the only general release DVD of the film widely available in Japan is the one released by the company with no connection to the film, which specializes in publishing super-cheap DVDs of public domain films. Also, please remember that Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project. If you think an edit I have made is "messy", you are perfectly free to "tidy it up" yourself. But please remember that "tidying up" does not mean blankly reverting my edit just because you don't like it. WP:WNF elvenscout742 (talk) 02:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN says that the burden is on the editor who adds material, not on the editor who removes material. JoshuSasori (talk) 02:27, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I already have provided a source -- the super-cheap public domain DVD itself. You need to either provide a valid explanation for the source not being reliable, or find a better source that says something different for whatever reason. Also, please remember that WP:EXCEPTIONAL says you need a good source to indicate that the super-cheap public domain DVD manufacturer is illegally printing DVDs of a film that is not in the public domain. elvenscout742 (talk) 02:41, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I am not making any claim about the DVDs. The following are supported by your reference: The DVDs exist. They are cheap. They are publicly advertised. The following other facts, we know: The film was released in 1953. The director died in 1956. It is reasonable to come to the conclusion that the films are in the public domain. However, that is a conclusion, not something which is directly supported by the evidence. You need to provide evidence to support your conclusion. I do not need to provide evidence to remove your conclusion. Thanks. JoshuSasori (talk) 02:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

The cheap DVDs are cheap because they are public domain DVDs. elvenscout742 (talk) 03:08, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Why do a peer review

The reason to do a peer review is to get feedback on an article. It's pretty good when it works, which is not always. We need to get some interest from a good person. They will go over the article and find points where it needs attention (e.g. referencing, bad writing, etc.) The problem is that a lot of peer reviews go unanswered. I'm not really aware of any particular edits you have made to Ugetsu which changed the article substantially, so I don't think it is going to affect what you have written particularly. JoshuSasori (talk) 04:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:RESTRICT

Elvenscout, I thought that it was quite clear that there was an interaction ban between you and Tristan noir. You violated that ban by a. making this edit that violates letter and spirit of the ban; and b. making this edit to an article where Tristan was the last editor. Given the ban, you (both of you) should be extra careful and monitor the history of an article you wish to work on, especially since both of you work in the same area. Please consider this a warning: I will have to block you next time you violate the ban, and so can any other admin. If it turns out that Tristan is also violating the ban, you can let me know on my talk page, which is a free zone, so to speak, where both of you may speak your mind--but not to each other. Drmies (talk) 15:36, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

• Actually, I had forgotten that Tristan Noir had edited that page. But it seems he hasn't made a single edit to Misplaced Pages in well over a month, except to inform you that I "violated" this "ban". I didn't interact with him, all I did was edit a page that he happened to have edited a significant amount of time ago -- I don't see how this violates an interaction ban, and your warning to me effectively means that Tristan Noir "owns" every article he has ever edited. I have edited a few articles since he stopped editing that he had previously been involved in, including renga and haiga, but why was this a problem? I didn't remove anything he had added to any of these articles? It seems that he is not interested in editing Misplaced Pages, and just watched a sleeper bomb he had laid in an article I was interested in, so that the next time I edited it he could "tell on me". elvenscout742 (talk) 00:35, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Elvenscout, I can't judge Tristan's intent, nor do I wish to. If they haven't edited that many pages, good for you. On the bright side, that means that the rest of Misplaced Pages, most of our 4 million+ pages are there for you to edit, and that you "own" every article you ever edited. The interaction ban states you all will not be editing articles the other has worked on, and that's all there is to it, I'm afraid. I'm not going to go through your contributions to see where you intersect, but Tristan's complaint was valid given the ban, esp. since that edit in your user space is made in a section where you're ragging on him. I could delete that entire page, and I do wonder why, given your interaction ban, you're preparing something where you're making some serious accusations. Seriously, the way out is to drop this thing like a hot potato. If you like you may file a thread at WP:AN to have the interaction ban modified, but I give you little chance that such a proposal will be successful, a month after the first ban was enacted. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 00:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the page you are referring to had absolutely nothing to do with the user in question. One other user, who has been harassing me on numerous articles, went through my edit history and found that I had a prior dispute, and, assuming that I was in the wrong, posted a notice about me in his user space. I see now that he has deleted that page, so my page is also redundant. However, I was merely adding clarification to a completely separate issue. I really don't see how responding to a user who has gone through my entire edit history and rooted out every negative interaction I have had with another user qualifies as violating an interaction ban with that other user. Plus, it should be pointed out that I volunteered to have the "interaction ban" imposed on myself with a particular aim in mind. The user made the same action. And while I have not interacted with the user at all, that user has apparently been monitoring all of my edits and when I did something that might remotely be considered a violation immediately went onto your talk page and posted about me. Who was really violating the interaction ban here?? elvenscout742 (talk) 03:39, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, here's the deal: I just noticed that the user in question has been blocked indefinitely for making what looked like a personal threat, so my response page is no longer necessary. However, the parts pertaining to my dispute with that user are still relevant, because if he gets unblocked, in the future, he may continue making accusations against me and harassing me across those various articles. Therefore, I will delete the section of my page relating to the user I am not supposed to be interacting with, and I would like to request that you expunge the past versions of the page up to the edit I am about to make. elvenscout742 (talk) 03:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Please delete up to and including this edit. I also just now noticed that since the the user in question had his own page of accusations against me deleted, it might appear that I had posted two separate remarks about the user I am not interacting with. In reality, both were quotes, and my prose was only a short response. elvenscout742 (talk) 03:55, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Elvenscout, one thread on one talk page is enough. I know that that user page was not primarily about Tristan, but that's beside the point: the point is you are not to discuss them. Simple. The rest is just not that interesting to anyone but you and maybe the other parties; if there is something wrong, it needs to be handled through the appropriate channels but it has nothing to do with your ban. That you proposed it, I remember it well and that's great, but you should have realized that it came with restrictions, and you ran into one of those restrictions now. As for the delete request, I have no intention of deleting the previous versions etc; you removed the offending text, great. Time to move on. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 04:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I did just see the talk page of that "other editor": I had been looking over their edits and that is a righteous block, in my opinion. Drmies (talk) 04:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Wait, I just checked Misplaced Pages:Interaction ban, and in fact it specifically states that myself and the user in question are allowed make edits to the same articles as long as we do not interact. I never agreed to simply give up all rights to ever edit an article to which the user had made edits (and certainly not if those edits were made well over a month earlier). Just because he/she was "the last editor" is insignificant -- my edits had no impact on his/her edits, and there was no direct interaction, at least until that user contacted an administrator about me. I never violated any interaction ban, and I take back whatever prior admission I may have made to doing so. elvenscout742 (talk) 06:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not that interested in what IBAN says. Please explain to me what is not clear about this: "No talking on each others' talk pages, no commenting on each other anywhere, no editing an article that the other party has been working on, et cetera." (I cite from Misplaced Pages:Editing restrictions, where the conclusion of the ANI thread is cited.) Now, your edits to Travelers of a Hundred Ages and The Great Mirror have something in common: they follow edits by Tristan noir, and you have never edited these article before. It is not much of a stretch to call that hounding; it certainly seems clear that your revelation about WP:IBAN has led you to believe that you are free to follow Tristan around. You are not. That you may not like know what you agreed to earlier is immaterial, though you are free to ask at WP:AN to get it scrapped or modified--24 hours from now at the earliest.

Elvenscout, you have in fact violated the letter and the spirit of the ban. You should have known better. You could have asked me. You could have picked a million other articles to edit. I'm going to block you for violating the ban, especially since some of those edits are recent and I have no reason to think there won't be more of them. Drmies (talk) 05:42, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

The letter and the spirit of the ban was that we not interact with each other. I (unknowingly) edited one article that that user had not touched in almost two months, after that user had been almost completely inactive for the same amount of time. That user was apparently monitoring my edits to see when I would "violate the ban" by editing the page, but nowhere was it ever said that I was not allowed do so. That user was thus violating the spirit of the ban by following me, and attempting to "get me in trouble" by "telling on me". The only interaction between myself and that user was instigated by that user, therefore it is completely unfair that I should take the fall here.

I admit that in the past day or so I have edited a couple more pages that that user has edited: but so what? There was no interaction, and I had in fact just recently edited related articles on rekishi monogatari, Heian literature and so on, which that user had never touched.

elvenscout742 (talk) 06:07, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Response to rhetorical edit summary, just because

I just happened to see your edit summary; I know it was rhetorical but I actually remember the conversation when they were making these pseudo-namespaces (though can't locate it), so I thought I'd swing by anyway. Best memory: Yes it is technically inconsistent, and that was discussed, but it was thought that it was still fairly intuitive and easy to remember with the "W" standing for Misplaced Pages and "T" for talk, and it's just more efficient over millions of who-knows how-many-repetitions over years to use two letters rather than three. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=I was never told that ] did not apply here, and blocking me is in itself a much greater violation of the spirit of ], and blocking me in light of this is unfair. I was never "disruptive" on any of the articles concerned, nor anywhere else on Misplaced Pages. Drmies said during our last interaction that this was known. 2 months ago I accepted a '''voluntary''' ban on interacting with User:Tristan noir, on the condition that he did the same. Then not long ago I edited an article that I was not aware Tristan had already edited '''two months earlier'''. Tristan noir then immediately complained to User:Drmies (in his first edit since accepting the interaction ban) about me. ] is quite clear that I am allowed edit articles that Tristan noir had previously edited, as long as there is no direct interaction. The interaction ban, '''as User:Drmies worded it''', made reference to "not editing an article the other had been working on", but otherwise did not mention differing in any way from IBAN. I ''hardly'' think editing an article that Tristan noir had made some changes to two months earlier (before apparently retiring from Misplaced Pages) qualifies as "editing an article the other has been working on", though. Drmies, when Tristan noir complained to him, unilaterally imposed much harsher restrictions on me, apparently for no reason other than that Tristan noir asked him too. Once these restrictions had been made, Tristan noir suddenly became "active" on Misplaced Pages again, making (mostly minor) edits to numerous articles in my area of interest (classical Japanese literature). It seems he did this in order to "claim" those articles and prevent me from ever editing them, as demonstrated by his immediately going back to Drmies and essentially requesting this block, solely because I violated his ownership claims to those articles. Unlike Tristan noir, I have never engaged in disruptive behaviour on Misplaced Pages, and the '''interaction ban''' that was placed on me was only done because '''I ASKED FOR IT''', primarily to get Tristan noir to stop ] me and to slow his posting of ] and ] to numerous poetry articles. Therefore, it seems entirely unreasonable for one administrator to unilaterally '''impose''' a stricter ban on me when I have not in fact done anything wrong. It is also inappropriate for me to get blocked for violating this unreasonable imposition. I am aware that this block is only for 24 hours and is not much of an imposition, but given the context it is clear that Tristan noir violated the interaction ban first by following my edits closely and complaining ''immediately'' when I made an entirely benign edit. If anyone gets blocked, it should be Tristan noir. ] (]) 08:30, 30 January 2013 (UTC) |3 = ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=I was never told that ] did not apply here, and blocking me is in itself a much greater violation of the spirit of ], and blocking me in light of this is unfair. I was never "disruptive" on any of the articles concerned, nor anywhere else on Misplaced Pages. Drmies said during our last interaction that this was known. 2 months ago I accepted a '''voluntary''' ban on interacting with User:Tristan noir, on the condition that he did the same. Then not long ago I edited an article that I was not aware Tristan had already edited '''two months earlier'''. Tristan noir then immediately complained to User:Drmies (in his first edit since accepting the interaction ban) about me. ] is quite clear that I am allowed edit articles that Tristan noir had previously edited, as long as there is no direct interaction. The interaction ban, '''as User:Drmies worded it''', made reference to "not editing an article the other had been working on", but otherwise did not mention differing in any way from IBAN. I ''hardly'' think editing an article that Tristan noir had made some changes to two months earlier (before apparently retiring from Misplaced Pages) qualifies as "editing an article the other has been working on", though. Drmies, when Tristan noir complained to him, unilaterally imposed much harsher restrictions on me, apparently for no reason other than that Tristan noir asked him too. Once these restrictions had been made, Tristan noir suddenly became "active" on Misplaced Pages again, making (mostly minor) edits to numerous articles in my area of interest (classical Japanese literature). It seems he did this in order to "claim" those articles and prevent me from ever editing them, as demonstrated by his immediately going back to Drmies and essentially requesting this block, solely because I violated his ownership claims to those articles. Unlike Tristan noir, I have never engaged in disruptive behaviour on Misplaced Pages, and the '''interaction ban''' that was placed on me was only done because '''I ASKED FOR IT''', primarily to get Tristan noir to stop ] me and to slow his posting of ] and ] to numerous poetry articles. Therefore, it seems entirely unreasonable for one administrator to unilaterally '''impose''' a stricter ban on me when I have not in fact done anything wrong. It is also inappropriate for me to get blocked for violating this unreasonable imposition. I am aware that this block is only for 24 hours and is not much of an imposition, but given the context it is clear that Tristan noir violated the interaction ban first by following my edits closely and complaining ''immediately'' when I made an entirely benign edit. If anyone gets blocked, it should be Tristan noir. ] (]) 08:30, 30 January 2013 (UTC) |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=I was never told that ] did not apply here, and blocking me is in itself a much greater violation of the spirit of ], and blocking me in light of this is unfair. I was never "disruptive" on any of the articles concerned, nor anywhere else on Misplaced Pages. Drmies said during our last interaction that this was known. 2 months ago I accepted a '''voluntary''' ban on interacting with User:Tristan noir, on the condition that he did the same. Then not long ago I edited an article that I was not aware Tristan had already edited '''two months earlier'''. Tristan noir then immediately complained to User:Drmies (in his first edit since accepting the interaction ban) about me. ] is quite clear that I am allowed edit articles that Tristan noir had previously edited, as long as there is no direct interaction. The interaction ban, '''as User:Drmies worded it''', made reference to "not editing an article the other had been working on", but otherwise did not mention differing in any way from IBAN. I ''hardly'' think editing an article that Tristan noir had made some changes to two months earlier (before apparently retiring from Misplaced Pages) qualifies as "editing an article the other has been working on", though. Drmies, when Tristan noir complained to him, unilaterally imposed much harsher restrictions on me, apparently for no reason other than that Tristan noir asked him too. Once these restrictions had been made, Tristan noir suddenly became "active" on Misplaced Pages again, making (mostly minor) edits to numerous articles in my area of interest (classical Japanese literature). It seems he did this in order to "claim" those articles and prevent me from ever editing them, as demonstrated by his immediately going back to Drmies and essentially requesting this block, solely because I violated his ownership claims to those articles. Unlike Tristan noir, I have never engaged in disruptive behaviour on Misplaced Pages, and the '''interaction ban''' that was placed on me was only done because '''I ASKED FOR IT''', primarily to get Tristan noir to stop ] me and to slow his posting of ] and ] to numerous poetry articles. Therefore, it seems entirely unreasonable for one administrator to unilaterally '''impose''' a stricter ban on me when I have not in fact done anything wrong. It is also inappropriate for me to get blocked for violating this unreasonable imposition. I am aware that this block is only for 24 hours and is not much of an imposition, but given the context it is clear that Tristan noir violated the interaction ban first by following my edits closely and complaining ''immediately'' when I made an entirely benign edit. If anyone gets blocked, it should be Tristan noir. ] (]) 08:30, 30 January 2013 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

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