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May 6

'I suspect, based on your question'

The language: "I suspect, based on your question ..." is frequently used in response to questions that are not about how to use Misplaced Pages but about general knowledge. Is there a template that substitutes that language? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC) ~

It's from {{Astray}}. Like many other templates intended for subsitution, it leaves its name as a comment in the source: <!-- Template:Astray -->. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Userboxes

I want to put userboxes on my user page. What page are the userboxes on? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:06, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

You can start on Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/Gallery. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:29, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

The gallery is more useful than the category of categories. Thanks. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:30, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

The entire collection is available at Category:Userboxes. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:02, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. The entire category of categories is so large that it is difficult to navigate, but I will just muddle along. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Language Template for Article Talk Page

Where are the templates that can be put on article talk pages to specify what national version of English should be used for an article? (I am not referring to an article about a place or a historical event associated with a country or a biography, because in those the language should usually be obvious.) Robert McClenon (talk) 00:11, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Category:Varieties of English templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Relatively straightforward. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

User talk deletion

I'm incredibly confused on whether or not this is in the help section so I apologize if it is. A while back I left my wikipedia account up and a friend went on it and posted obscene things and of course they were removed, but I don't want them showing up in my user talk page or my contributions tab. Can you please explain how I can have my user talk contributions deleted in a simple way? Or if I can delete the individual contributions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haharyne (talk • contribs) 01:25, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I have deleted the revision. Only admins have the ability to see it now. GB fan 01:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Wrong photograph

Hello! My name is S.D. Perry, I'm a writer, and some nice person created a Wiki page for me. However, the photograph that appears on the page is NOT ME. I have no idea who it is. I would be happy to submit a picture, if you like, but either way, the picture on my Wiki page should be removed.

Thank you for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.186.85 (talk) 02:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Which article are you referring to? I don't see any photo at S. D. Perry RudolfRed (talk) 02:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo shown to the right of a Google search on S. D. Perry? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Misplaced Pages" to indicate that particular text was copied from Misplaced Pages. An image and other text before or after the Misplaced Pages excerpt can be from sources completely unrelated to Misplaced Pages. We have no control over how Google presents our information. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:32, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

If PrimeHunter is correct and that is the photo you mean, clicking on it takes you to shelfari.com. You need to talk to them. Rojomoke (talk) 05:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

As Google's Knowledge Graph appears to be resulting in a lot of questions at the Help Desk I have just created a new standard response template, based on PrimeHunter's response above. You can find it at {{HD/GKG}}. As with all HD response templates, it should be substituted.--ukexpat (talk) 15:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Problem with Template:Infobox rail line on New Haven Line

Looking at New Haven Line, it appears that {{Infobox rail line}} is supposed to appear on the page, but the infobox is not showing up there. The only sign of the infobox I see is the words Template:Infobox above the first paragraph of text. Can anyone help figure out why the infobox is not displaying properly? Thanks. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• Update: I figured out that what was causing the infobox to malfunction was the following line in the infobox:

map= {{infobox rdt|New Haven Line map|navbar=1}}

I removed that line and the infobox showed up again. However, this removal means that the route map is gone from the infobox. Is there any way to have the infobox and include the route map within it too? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

When I tried adding it back in, I got a message "Warning: Template include size is too large. Some templates will not be included.". So that5 is the reason for the problem. I don't know if there's anything you can do about it though: perhaps put the route map separate from the infobox? --ColinFine (talk) 10:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

User:Original beauty 1/sandbox

Hey this site was about me and is the first thing that comes up when you look up my name, I don't know who wrote it but it was really accurate and pretty mean. I removed the content but could you please remove the webpage as it keeps coming up as the first search link. Thanks so much 198.151.130.129 (talk) 05:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• The page has been deleted from Misplaced Pages. I don't know if anything can be done about cached copies of the page as it used to be showing up in search results, but they should eventually disappear. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Bodhtree

Hi, I have created my page several times but it is getting deleted, can u please share some useful points how to create a new page and edit the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.72.66.222 (talk) 06:31, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sandbox is a public page where new users can experiment with editing - anything you do there will quickly be overwritten by others so it's not a suitable place to draft articles. See Misplaced Pages:Your first article for instructions on creating a new article, and Help:Editing for editing tips. Please note that Misplaced Pages already has an article about Search engine optimization - any additional content or improvements on the subject would go into the existing article rather than a new one. - Karenjc 08:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Task force without WikiProject

Is it okay to create a task force that is not attached to a WikiProject? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 09:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

While there's certainly no rule against it, I don't think it would be properly called a "task force" in that case. WP:TASKFORCE says that a task force is a "non-independent subgroup of a larger WikiProject," so I think a parent WikiProject is a necessary condition for calling something a task force, and thus whatever it is that you're interested in creating would likely go by a different name. What is it exactly that you want to create? Sophus Bie 10:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, that's a bit of a longer story. I am an NFCC enforcer and perform a task to identify and deal with 10c violations as outlined at User:Toshio Yamaguchi/NFCC task. That task was originally supposed to be performed by a bot. Unfortunately, that bot never materialized (not due to lack of consensus for such a bot I think, but because nobody coded it). After that was clear, I took over the bots task myself and I am performing the task as outlined on that page. However, the number of violations is huge and I my progress is rather slow, so I would definitely appreciate any helping hands on that task. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 10:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Also, I do not have an estimate of many people would be interested in joining that task force (not too many I guess). Many of the NFCC patrollers (including myself) are active at WP:NFCR. However, bringing all 10c violations there is not possible, because there are too many of them and NFCR is already backlogged. I personally only bring NFCC#8 vios there or cases where I suspect the file shouldn't be tagged as NFC at all and the task I perform is supposed to handle the 10c violations without bringing them to NFCR. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 10:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Aha! That's a lot of work for one person; I can see why you'd want to organize a group to work on it. I think what you want to create would be called a WikiProject proper, à la Misplaced Pages:Typo Team, for example. No one says that WikiProjects have to be centered around broad topics, after all. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Council/Directory/Wikipedia lists all sorts of projects dedicated to very specific tasks. Sophus Bie 12:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Mhm, I would have to think about how to go about that, since I already tried to establish a WikiProject for that purpose and failed. It's definitely an extremely sensitive area. On the other hand, I've experienced few problems with performing this task so far. So a coordinated effort might be viable as long as each participant tries not to act like a brainless bot and tries to follow the rules for the task. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 13:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, that's a bummer. If you do decide to attempt the creation again, I noticed that User:Sven_Manguard, who seemed to be your main opposition, wrote, "Thinking about supporting it this time around." at the bottom of the page, so perhaps you'll have more success with a second try? Sophus Bie 14:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I won't support or oppose any efforts. I've moved away active NFCC enforcement because I find the whole of non-free content soul-crushing, so I'm not going to support it, but if Toshio has been able to do it uncontroversially for all this time, I'm not going to oppose it either. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:36, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

My bio taken down

You used to have an accurate bio on me lacking the fact I am a high time FAA Blue seal Private Pilot. Somebody took it down and put up careful slander. Please restore correct version with above addition. Also May 16 1996 cover page of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL above the fold had my picture and said I was #5 national Talk Host. Chuck Harder 174.131.120.2 (talk) 11:36, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

You seem to be referring to Chuck Harder, which was deleted after Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Chuck Harder. Please raise this at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review (see the instructions at the top of that page). Given the Articles for deletion discussion with 3 keep and 2 delete votes I think there is a chance that the page might be restored. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 11:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Entry for GlobalCollect

My company's page, GlobalCollect, was deleted almost five years ago for overtly commercial text. I fully understand and respect Misplaced Pages guidelines, but it can't have been the intention for the company to have received a "lifetime ban". How can APPROPRIATE content on the company be re-added to Misplaced Pages? Many thanks.

Crosebrook (talk) 12:42, 6 May 2013 (UTC)CRosebrook

No, it was never a ban: it was a statement that that particular article, at that time, was unsuitable and could not be rescued. Assuming that your company satisfies the criteria for notability, it may have an article; but you are strongly discouraged from writing one, because of your conflict of interest (which easily leads to such promotional language even when you think you are being neutral). Have a look at WP:ORG, and then if you think the company is notable, I suggest you make a request at WP:Requested articles. --ColinFine (talk) 14:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

View other user's watchlists

i am obviously able to share my watchlist with others (www.mediawiki.org/Manual:Watchlist) I have researched quite a bit, but didnt find how to exactly do that. Two questions: (1) How can I actually share my wathclist (2) How can I access or at leat see another user's watchlist? sry, if this is argued somewhere in lenght, but I didn't get it... Krit777 (talk) 12:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krit777 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

In Special:Preferences, under "Advanced options" there's a field called "Watchlist token". Filling in this field with a secret key will generate an RSS feed for your watchlist. Anyone who knows the key in this field will be able to read your watchlist, so share that key with whomever you want to see your watchlist. You can't see other people's watchlists unless they share their key with you. Hope this helps. Sophus Bie 12:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

thx, that helps. One more question: If I have this key, where do I enter it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krit777 (talk • contribs) 13:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Please see the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Syndication#Watchlist feed with token. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Reply on TALk

Could you please tell me how I can respond to messages I receive on TALK. Could you please assist with uploading an image of an artist whose bio I created. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Papasart (talk • contribs) 14:02, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

The messages should be signed so there should be a link to the talk page of the editor who left it. If you leave your message on their talk page they will see it. (They may also watch your talk page for a response but that is less certain.) If it isn't signed you can check the history tab for your talk page to see who has edited it. Does this help? RJFJR (talk) 17:11, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Questions for reserch

I am asking for reserch purposes WHO CREATED OR PUBLISH WIKIPEDIA, WHAT IS THE WEBSITE URL, That is all thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.147.7.10 (talk) 15:31, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

You can read about it at History of Misplaced Pages and WP:ABOUT. It's currently published by Wikimedia Foundation. RudolfRed (talk) 15:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

If you are asking about citing Misplaced Pages, see Misplaced Pages:Citing Misplaced Pages.--ukexpat (talk) 15:45, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

You may also find the following articles helpful:

• Misplaced Pages
• URL

I would also recommend using fewer capital letters. It can be interpreted as shouting.

Yaris678 (talk) 16:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

trying to put in references

Hi,

I am having problems correctly formatting my references. What am I doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina munteanu (talk • contribs) 15:31, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Have you taken a look at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and Misplaced Pages:Citation templates? Taking a quick look at your most recent edits, it looks like your problem is thus: the <ref>this is a reference</ref> must go above the {{reflist}} on the page, or it won't work properly. Sophus Bie 15:45, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Why are Little Barrier Island and Richard Evans (British author) watched so often?

I just found Misplaced Pages:Database_reports/Most-watched_pages. Most entries at the top of the list are obvious. But how about Little Barrier Island (rank 16) and Richard Evans (British author) (rank 22)? Does anyone has a theory about this? --Zulu55en (talk) 14:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I have no actual idea, but I have a guess. My guess is that there were edit wars on these articles in the past, and that Requests for Comments were publicized, and a large number of users watched these pages. That is a guess. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

It’s clear now: Talk:Little Barrier Island#Why is this the most watched page on Misplaced Pages? and moving of the Introduction talk page to Richard Evans (British author) and back afterwards, so all the watchers of the Introduction page – which at the moment is the second most watched page here with 16562 watchers and surely had thousands of watchers already in 2007, when the article has been created – were automatically transfered to the new article. --Geitost 17:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Strange errors in a cite

Please take a look at reference #68 on West Wetlands Park (Yuma, AZ) - it cites a United States Geological Survey (USGS) publication and from what I can make out it is supposed to have a very specific format but I have no idea where to find relevant guidance. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Heya, looks to me that the META tags from the source page got copy/pasted into the ref. I, as a layperson, interpret the meta tags to be the USGS's requirements for displaying information on the USGS website. It doesn't look relevant to us and could probably be deleted from the reference. What do you think? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:21, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the sanity check - I suspected it was an error by the Reflinks tool. I've fixed it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Resubmitting a declined page

Dear Wiki reviewers, i have edited an entry for Philip Awadalla, a geneticist-I can`t upload it for review though. Can you please help. Thanks you User:Cag-anjos/sandbox S Cag-anjos (talk) 18:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

You accidentally deleted the AFC review template, I put it back for you. The template contains "When you are ready to resubmit, click here." that's what you need to do. However, you need to fix two of the references before you submit it again as they have become broken. BTW the page has been moved to Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Philip Awadalla, your sandbox now contains only a redirect. The article does not prove the subject's notability - all your sources are by the subject but notability requires that you use sources about him. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cag-anjos, I have made some changes to Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Philip Awadalla so it now cites some independent sources. Edit it further if you like and then re-submit the article. Yaris678 (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Richard A. Hellman

Dear Sir/Madam:

I am writing to ask your advice on how to fix the following situation. It has come to our attention that the UNEP logo and name are being inappropriately used in a Misplaced Pages article on Richard A. Hellman (Richard A. Hellman). Richard A. Hellman has been using UNEP's logo without our authorization, in violation of UN rules, and has been associating himself with a defunct group known as “Friends of UNEP” which has not existed for many decades. Through using this false affiliation, he has associated himself with UNEP while making statements that do not align with UNEP’s and the UN’s views. Since Richard A. Hellman is not authorized to use UNEP’s name and logo, or to claim, imply or suggest in any manner to represent UNEP or its views, we ask your help in removing the logo, and all references to "Friends of UNEP" from the Misplaced Pages article. I look forward to your advice. Many thanks and kind regards, Regional Director United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.105.109.178 (talk) 19:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I have removed the logo from that article per the non-free content criteria. --ukexpat (talk) 20:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Just to clarify, it's UNEP, USA that hasn't existed for several decades, and you'd like us to clarify that in the article? Was there any press coverage of the UNEP USA closure/ceasation? Was it succeeded by the UNEP Regional Office of North America? -- Zanimum (talk) 22:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm new to all this. I wanted to report a delete article about a place that still exists.

The wiki article regarding Mohawk Correctional Facility in Rome, NY is deleted for some reason. The facility still exists, I worked there VERY recently. They are currently expanding. The confusion may be due to a 911 mandated address change. Their current address is: Mohawk Correctional Facility 6514 Rt. 26 P.O. Box 8450 Rome, New York 13440 (315) 339-5232 (Oneida County) (Inmate Mail: P.O. Box 8451) Source:

Thanks Dave — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.12.27.67 (talk) 20:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• Mohawk Correctional Facility was deleted in 2005: the content was a single name. --  Gadget850 20:55, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

A new article might be in order. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:20, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

The Wiki "China Pyramids" Information is False

The China Pyramids were built by "White People" as the Tariam Mummies prove they are not tombs of Asians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.160.131 (talk) 22:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't know the subject but I don't see a connection between the Tarim mummies and the Chinese pyramids. It appears the mummies were found around 2000 km from the pyramids, in an area controlled by other people. If you have a reliable source and aren't making up your own theory then you can post to Talk:Chinese pyramids. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Twitter: original post of tweet

In the article Friday (Rebecca Black song), there's mention made of a tweet deeming it the "worst video ever made?" There are references in the articles to news articles mentioning this tweet. Along with those YouTube Trends and Mashable articles, I cite the original tweet. While I didn't try to defend it in the failed FAC, someone raised it as an issue. Is there any way to link to the original tweet, without it being deemed an improper reference? -- Zanimum (talk) 22:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Why link to the original tweet? Just use a reliable secondary source. I suggest:

<ref>{{cite news|newspaper=]|last=Baldwin|first=Stephen|title=Five things you need to know about Rebecca Black’s Friday|url=http://arts.nationalpost.com/2011/03/17/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-rebecca-blacks-friday/|date=March 17, 2011}}</ref>

Note, though, that the lead section of an article is for summarizing content in the body of the article, so there's a problem here with this rather significant detail being only in the lead. It can be only in the body in full, with a summary in the lead, but not the other way around. Note also that usually when you source something in the body of an article, you don't need the citation in the lead, but that is not the case with quotations, which must always be sourced with an inline citation, even if repeated. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit

How do I turn off the tabs in the mobile edition? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattPackwood (talk • contribs) 23:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Try asking at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Did the edit section links move?

I'm used to seeing the edit links for sections on the right side of the page. They're appearing left now, near the section headers. Is this a browswer glitch or did they move? Is there a setting to put them back? RudolfRed (talk) 23:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

They indeed moved. I don't remember where, but a few days ago I saw a notification that the devs were going to do this. Deor (talk) 00:14, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Here's where I saw it: Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Section edit links are migrating westwards. A way to move them back to the right is given here. Deor (talk) 00:23, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation and the link. I can't find the preference setting mentioned there. RudolfRed (talk) 00:39, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

As I understand it, you have to go to (or create) Special:Mypage/common.css and then add the line

span.mw-editsection { float:right; }

to that page. I haven't tried it yet, but I'll probably do so eventually, when I get tired of continually "reaching" for section-edit links in the wrong place. Deor (talk) 00:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I've put them back where they belong - on the right margin. Why are the WMF code writers so busy lately, are they just fiddling around out of boredom or have they really never heard of the "don't fix what ain't broke" principle? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:29, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

My Default language - English. What happened to it?

I've always BEEN a USA American. Misplaced Pages has always spoken to me in my language until two months ago when I VISITED Nicaragua. Now I'm back. When I am logged in - my profile KNOWS that I only speak English - yet it persists in presenting in Spanish until I 'cambiar' the language. Please help to change the language for ME permanently to English. 'Mucho Gusto', Rix Dobbs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rixdobbs (talk • contribs) 00:50, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm very unclear what exactly you are experiencing but I thought maybe the default language on your web browser has been set to Spanish? If this is possibly the issue, this page has information on changing your default language setting on a number of different browsers. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Have you tried basic browser maintenance, such as clearing your browser history, cache, cookies, active logins, etc? Does the problem exist when you log in via a different browser, or a different computer? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Is there a place where I can view all the background fill colors?

QM400032 (talk) 00:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)QM400032 (talk) 19:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Help:Using colours?--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:31, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

May 7

page needs to be verified

Hi

i have created a page for Lou Sticca

I have included several reputable references but the page still has a box on it saying it is flagged for deletion.

could you please advise why the references have not been verified yet or what i can do

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonsticca (talk • contribs) 01:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the "flagged for deletion" box as you have indeed added reliable sources that mention Lou Sticca. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:44, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

The high five salute

I just heard that Dusty Baker was the original person to institute the high five. I always thought it was Glenn Burke who played for the Alburque Dukes in 1975-77 and was called up to the Dodgers where played in 1978 and then was traded to the A's and then became ill and never played again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.198.2.161 (talk) 01:17, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. There's an ESPN article here about the high five you might find interesting and our encyclopedia article on the gesture has quite a bit of material about the origins. Anyway, what isn't clear from your post is your reason for telling us this. Is there something we can help you with related to using Misplaced Pages?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:39, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, some problem !!

• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Nurtuan
• Nurtuan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

hi there some problem, with our page!!

we find one specialist who create a wikipedia article for young singer! Everything was good, but now, Misplaced Pages wanna delete our page?!!!

dont know why!!

could u help to use, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JanneDal (talk • contribs) 01:41, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Per the AfD page you linked: the article creator is a banned spammer, the page is overly promotional, and the notability of the subject is not established. RudolfRed (talk) 03:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

To explain a bit more what the deletion discussion and RudolfRed are saying: Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, not a directory or website host. It has articles about subjects not people's pages (or listings or profiles), and promotion and advertising of any kind is strictly forbidden. This means that articles are acceptable only if they cover subjects which are notable, which means that other reliable sources have already written about them; and the article must refer to those sources to show that the subject has been noted. It also means that the content must be written in a neutral way; and because of that, it is difficult for somebody closely connected with the subject to write a satisfactory article, and they are discouraged from trying.

There are only two references in the current article, and neither of them looks to be a reliable source (the information probably comes from the singer himself). In order to prevent deletion, you will need to find the reliable sources I have mentioned to, and reference them in the article. Actually, I don't agree with the point in the nomination that the language is promotional: I don't think it is, but the article does contain a lot of unreferenced detail which should not appear unreferenced in an article about a living person.

If you can find the required references, the best solution might be to ask an administrator to userfy the article, so you can work on it in your sandbox and improve it. But if there are no such reliable references yet, then there cannot be an article on Nurtuan at present. --ColinFine (talk) 09:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Article Creation Help

Hello there,

I work as an intern for the band Bestfriends. This specific article page has been in creation for a while:Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation/Bestfriends

Is there any possible way to speed up the process? What else would I need to help create the article? Any help would be much appreciated.

--Mitchel-Noble (talk) 03:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Notability (music) and expect a bunch of COI comments as well. I find that User:CorporateM/How WP:COI would read if I wrote it puts in a friendly nutshell.--Canoe1967 (talk) 03:29, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

There are 735 pending submissions for articles to be created. All you can do is be patient. RudolfRed (talk) 03:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

That's true, but neither Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation/Bestfriends nor Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Bestfriends are currently submitted for review, so being patient is not going to help.

I would suggest reading WP:42 and WP:REFB carefully, improving one or other of those pages using that information, and then putting {{subst:submit}} at the top of it to submit it for review. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:38, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

And also read WP:There is no deadline. If you are in a hurry, this suggests that you might be interested in the page for promotional reasons rather than to improve Misplaced Pages. --ColinFine (talk) 09:23, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

We want to Give our organization's details in wiki.

Dear sir/Madam, I am president of Banglabhashi Yuva Chatra Parishad, Asom(B.Y.C.P.). We form a organization on 23.03.2013.Please contact us for details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.212.97.37 (talk) 08:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

If your organisation has only formed recently, it is unlikely that it meets our inclusion requirements for companies and organisations. Once a degree of coverage has arisen in reliable sources, we will be able to have an article about BYCP. Misplaced Pages is not a news service; we aggregate pre-existing information from other published sources, rather than publishing original information. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:28, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

All Google hits for the phrase "Banglabhashi Yuva Chatra Parishad" are to Facebook, with the exception of this topic. So it has clearly not yet achieved notability. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Pingala

Heading added by --ColinFine (talk) 12:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

This is with reference to the information about Pingala

In the section: Combinatorics There is a sentence : Pingala's work also contains'the Fibonacci number, called mātrāmeru, and now known as the Gopala–Hemachandra number.

Its the other way round. Pingala existed before Fabonacci. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.84.184.140 (talk) 12:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

It is not saying anything about primacy. It is saying that the thing known in English as the Fibonacci number was described previously in Pingala's work. --ColinFine (talk) 12:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. One of Fibonacci's greatest influences in European mathematics was the popularization of another Indian invention, what are commonly known as Arabic numerals but are really Indian numerals. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:59, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Citation Templates Protected

I'm sure I've toggled something because the citation templates are protected on my account at the moment. I am just working an article up in the sandbox. Any suggestion to get them working again?

Sidpickle (talk) 12:32, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

The templates found at Misplaced Pages:Citation_templates are generally always protected, due to their frequent use. However, that just means that there will be no changes to the templates themselves; you can use them regardless of whether or not they are protected. Taking a look at User:Sidpickle/sandbox, they seem to be working fine when you use them. Sophus Bie 13:17, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

They still do not respond when I click to open a fresh one. They did work when I started the article. Could just be a corruption. I'll work round it. Thanks for looking at it for me. Sidpickle (talk) 17:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

You need to be very careful with the syntax, one little error and they won't work.--ukexpat (talk) 17:12, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

It isn't clear to me what it means to "open a fresh one". What does that mean?

I don't see anything terribly wrong with your citations except how you've used |page=. Oddly enough, that parameter is for page numbers. Anything other than page numbers corrupts the citation's WP:COinS metadata. There is a parameter for chapters, |chapter=, which should have the chapter's title.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:33, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

When I try to open the citation template for say web it does nothing. I think it may be a local setting my end now that I have thought about it. I just fiddled with the browser settings to see if this has sorted it.

Thanks again for looking into the issue.

Sidpickle (talk) 18:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Are you talking about one of the buttons on the editing window tool bar? If you are, then it isn't a citation problem but a toolbar problem.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I cannot use the template on any article in Misplaced Pages (I discovered), not just the sandbox. Either from the toolbar at the top or the drop down list at the bottom. Sidpickle (talk) 08:58, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Clinton Park.

There are two disambiguation pages for Clinton Park:

https://en.wikipedia.org/Clinton_Park_%28disambiguation https://en.wikipedia.org/Clinton_Park_%28disambiguation%29

There is also something wrong with the entries for the section on the neighborhood park in Clinton Park, Houston.

I would appreciate it if some clever editor would straighten out this situation. There should be only one disambguation page, and there should be a link to the neighborhood park in Houston.--DThomsen8 (talk) 14:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Clinton Park (disambiguation and Clinton Park (disambiguation) are both redirects to Clinton Park. The first could reasonably be deleted as nothing links to it, but the mantra is that "redirects are cheap". What are you saying is wrong with Clinton Park, Houston? - David Biddulph (talk) 15:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I now see that someone has changed the link for the park in Houston since your question. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Everything seems to be correct, now.--DThomsen8 (talk) 20:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Infobox disaster

Please fix Baghmara, India. 184.149.138.18 (talk) 14:32, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. But it is also back to being about a town in Meghalaya state. If there is another town of this name in Assam state, we need a separate article. Rmhermen (talk) 14:48, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Dealing with Hostile Posts

CipherCloud (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The company CipherCloud seems to be the victim of a negative social media campaign. The company's Misplaced Pages page is now evidently part of this campaign. Because it's so easy to create a Misplaced Pages account, anyone can quickly remove any information they like - industry recognition, a list of company leadership, and any other information that's factual and unbiased but positive, and make broad-sweeping claims to hurt the company's credibility.

Certainly, the company can monitor this, and make changes while citing the reasons for them, but are there any other tactics available? What we're seeing here is not in the spirit of what Misplaced Pages was created to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IDigAwards (talk • contribs) 14:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm one of the people who edited CipherCloud page and removed your edits. As noted in the history of the article, it was substantially written by Allen Pogorzelski, Sr. Director of Marketing at CipherCloud. It had an "Advert" template when I first saw it. I tried to improve it a bit by removing unsourced claims. I also removed the "Leadership" section. Your username is IDigAwards and your only contribution, before you started edit war, was adding another advertising-like section to this article with the comment "CipherCloud has won some important awards that seem to be missing", adding non-notable awards. I suspect a sockpuppet account. If you have any relationship to the article subject, please stop editing the article. Dchestnykh (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment. There may be a conflict of interest here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:15, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

And IDigAwards is a dodgy user name too.--ukexpat (talk) 15:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

: A request for page protection might be in order. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:04, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

EDIT: After looking at the article, it appears that there are a number of issues with the quality of its content. Jargon, promotional language, etc. That there are other editors attempting to conform the article to WP:MOS and other Misplaced Pages guidelines doesn't mean there is a negative social media campaign active. Misplaced Pages is foremost an encyclopedia, and not an indiscriminate collection of information. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

• I don't think IDigAwards should be telling us what Misplaced Pages was created to do. It wasn't created to be the Yellow Pages with color pictures. There is no campaign, there is no conspiracy, there is no cabal. I don't see the need for protection yet, personally, but I do think that IDigAwards should be careful in both their edits and their accusations. If three different people tell you you're wrong, you could be victim of a social media attack campaign, or it could be that you were wrong. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

In response to this question, at least one more editor (probably several) has put CipherCloud on his watchlist and will help to protect it from being used for promotion. Maproom (talk) 19:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Blooming (Botany)

i want to write on this subject at the hebrew wikipedia, there is a similar page in english at this topic? how there isn't article about it? Cheshin61 (talk) 14:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

In the English-language Misplaced Pages, this topic is covered at Flower#Flowering transition. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:00, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

thank you orange mike, this is helpfull. Cheshin61 (talk) 20:50, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Submission for Handyman Matters

Hello,

I submitted an entry regarding the franchise organization, Handyman Matters Franchise Company (HMFC), on April 9th, 2013. Is this entry still being reviewed in the Misplaced Pages queue? Thanks for any information you can provide.BenWaymire (talk) 16:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Which user name did you use when you submitted the draft - you only have one contribution using this user name, and that is your question here. Alternatively, do you recall where you created the draft - at WP:AFC, in a user sub-page? Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Editing a page that has speedy deletion removed

Hi all,

I want to contribute to an article Payne (company) but I'm concerned that it may get nominated for speedy deletion as it was already nominated several months ago. Even though speedy deletion was removed I'm concerned that any contribution I make even with valid citations may mean its deletion.

As speedy deletion has been removed, does this mean that it will not get nominated again, and can only instead be reverted back to the state after speedy deletion was removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tauqsouth (talk • contribs) 19:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

If the page meets the criteria, it can be nominated again, but I wouldn't expect that to happen. It would probably get reverted back to a good version, or nominated through the normal (non-speedy) deletion process. Unless you have a conflict of interest, you should be bold and make the changes you want to. See WP:BRD for more details. RudolfRed (talk) 19:44, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I think this is not correct. If a speedy nomination has been declined (by someone other than the article creator), it may not be renominated. It must go through PROD or AFD. (I swear this was a policy somewhere, but I cannot find it now.) Gaijin42 (talk) 19:49, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Its party of the CSD template, but I cannot find it in a policy. One way or another that is a discrepancy that should be resolved. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

If you want to contribute to the article and don't want your contribution to be lost by deletion, you can watch-list it, and if it is nominated for deletion by any of the deletion processes, you will be notified.

If you have an affiliation with the company, please see the conflict of interest policy. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:55, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

(ec) WP:SPEEDY says "A page is only eligible for speedy deletion if all of its revisions are also eligible.", so you're right. If there is a good version of the page, it can't be speedy'd. RudolfRed (talk) 19:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Add a company to Misplaced Pages

What steps to I need to take to add a local, but national, company to Misplaced Pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.128.0.178 (talk) 19:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Start by reading WP:42 and perhaps WP:Your first article, and then go to WP:AFC. Also, if you want to use existing articles about other companies as examples, make sure you are looking at ones that are at least listed as Good Articles. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Also, if you have an affiliation with the company, please read the conflict of interest policy. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Concerns regarding recent username announcement

My username on the English Misplaced Pages is "Neelix" and I am afraid that, because of the recent announcement about unifying accounts, I will lose my username. I am by far the most active user named "Neelix" across the various Wikimedia projects. As far as I know, there have only been a handful of edits made under that name on Wikimedia projects other than the English Misplaced Pages. On all projects other than the English Misplaced Pages, my username is "Ambassador Neelix". Is it possible for me to have a unified account across all Wikimedia projects under the name "Neelix"? If so, who would I approach about making this happen? Neelix (talk) 20:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

The process is at WP:USURP. What announcement are you talking about? Do you have a link? RudolfRed (talk) 20:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

From Misplaced Pages Signpost/2013-04-29/Technology report:

• SUL finalization announced: In an email to the wikitech-ambassadors list, staff member James Forrester announced the plans to convert all accounts into global ones, regardless of conflicts. Discussion is underway at the bureaucrats' noticeboard, and on Meta-Wiki.

--  Gadget850 20:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Resolving a conflict tag

The articles treaty and foreign policy of the United States have been tagged as being in conflict with each other for more than a year. I placed an article content Request for Comments tag on the talk page for treaty. The comment was made on the talk page that it was a good idea to get the conflict resolved, but the question was whether an RFC was the way to do that. Opinions? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Tamara Nora Holder

I recently created a page for Tamara Nora Holder, but it should be Tamara Holder. How can I change to the correct. more widely used name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladybug2 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

A link would help, on this occasion I've added it for you. You need to have been here three days and made four edits (autoconfirmed, in other words) to be able to move pages.  Done Well, that's weird. It's been salted so it can't be created. If you ask at WP:RFPP they will unprotect it for you and maybe even move it for you as well.--Launchballer 22:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

The article was deleted and salted because there was consensus that it was promotional and involved a conflict of interest. If you are requesting to have the article restored, you will probably need to explain that you are a neutral third party. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:33, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Pages keeps getting deleted

I am trying to create a page and it keeps getting deleted saying it has been copied from LinkedIn. I have access to all this information, but if I cite anything it says it's a promotional page, so I have changed the content and now it is being deleted again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ally D3 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

This must be about Data3 limited, it's the only article you have ever contributed to. As it stands, the article is far too promotional, with sentences like "The Directors of PCA knew this heralded a new era for computing." It provides no evidence that the company is notable. And it says that the company "provides .. solutions" – this is evidence that it was written by a marketing person who doesn't know what the company actually does. Maproom (talk) 06:11, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:CORP, WP:PROMOTION and WP:NPOV. If you then decide that the company meets the requirements of notability, I advise you to follow WP:YFA and start working on the article in a sandbox. --ColinFine (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

May 8

Update to Page

Here is another link to Sprint Car Racer Andy Cobb's Page. Several people from the racing scene have been attempting to get him placed on here as he competes with the likes of other drivers who have a page here like Buzzie Reutimann, David Steele, David Reutimann, Tony Stewart and more. Here is an article written about his transition into Sprint Cars from Late Models and Boats. Please consider this and activate his page submission.

http://www.hoseheads.com/richard.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.156.9.3 (talk) 00:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

There is no article on the English Misplaced Pages titled Andy Cobb, please provide us with a link to the page you are referring to. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:05, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

This is being provided as more content in attempt to get the page request for Auto Racer Andy Cobb published, several people from the community have submitted requests to have a page posted for this race driver however keep getting messages that there is no verifiable links to prove the drivers existance. This link is being provided for that. The page is not yet active and we would like it to be. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.201.156.63 (talk) 18:54, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

editing questions

Don't know who created the page about me (Marjorie Heins), but there's an error (date of birth) in the first line and there's no way I can see to edit that. Advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margeheins (talk • contribs) 02:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Try clicking Edit at the top of the page, near "View History". --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Help with headline of my new article

Hello. I made a bit of a goof with the heading of my latest article. This should be Royal Nova Scotia Regiment, but the last three words are not capitalized. If anyone could fix this, I'd appreciate. http://en.wikipedia.org/Royal_nova_scotia_regiment — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wreck Smurfy (talk • contribs) 03:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixed by Gemaddog7. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:08, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Copying from ectomuscle's website

Hi, the articles we added were deleted. One stating that we copied info from ectomuscle's website. I actually own this site and have full copyright approval.

I did not understand why they were deleted as the reasons referred to for the other post were not applicable?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by EctoMedia (talk • contribs) 06:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Of course, with your 'full copyright approval' you can copy the contents, BUT... the contents is still copyrighted. And Misplaced Pages is not copyrighted—see the note below the edit box, where you entered the text:

By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL.

So placing your material on Misplaced Pages is a copyright violation, because it releases copyrighted material into non–© domain. --CiaPan (talk) 06:41, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Also, your name 'EctoMedia' suggests that you are associated with the subject of the article. Please read about Misplaced Pages'a conflict of interest policy before you do anything else here. Maproom (talk) 10:17, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Just to add (I was the deleting admin), although a bot highlighted a copyright issue, the main reason I deleted Ectomuscle was that it was an obvious advertisement, so the page would not be restored even if the copyright issue was resolved. January (talk) 10:41, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

If you wish to donate copyrighted material, see Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:12, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

But also be aware that material from an organisation's website is almost never appropriate for an encyclopaedia article, as it will usually be promotional in tone and not supported by references. For similar reasons, people closely connected with a subject are strongly discouraged from editing articles about the subject. Please read WP:NPOV and WP:COI. --ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

uploading a pic.

How can I upload a picture into a page I created 5 days ago with 11 edits that should have been confirmed, but it says I have not yet? What is the way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayatollah Mohammad Reza Nekunam (talk • contribs) 06:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

You were unable to upload a picture because you have made only four edits with this account - you may have been logged out when you made the other edits. I see that your user page has since been deleted as unambiguous advertising. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:37, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Problems getting pages to load

Since about 20:00 on May 6 (UTC) I've had major problems getting any Wikimedia pages to load. Even when they do, most of them don't load properly. The issue seems to be that something or other from bits.wikimedia.org doesn't reach me (or does so extremely slowly) and as a result the whole page essentially fails to load. I've managed to make a few edits (like this one) through persistence, luck and reloading all pages in Private Browsing mode (which helps... a bit) but it isn't much fun.

Has anybody else had similar problems, and can they be solved by something at my end? (In case that matters, I'm using Mozilla Firefox 20.0.1.) Sideways713 (talk) 08:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Lookingat , it looks like that have been having problems over the past week - not sure it it is related though... 13:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Now very suddenly working again. I didn't change anything. Sideways713 (talk) 15:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Kakazai

It’s disappointing that an edit by the writer concerning `Kalal’ origins of Kakazais as described by Sir Denzil Ibbetson (PUNJAB CASTES, Page 325) is being repeatedly cut out by your concerned person. Something personal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.29.211.10 (talk) 09:06, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

You were nicely asked by the editor to discuss your edits on the article's talk page. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 09:11, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Suspect Medical article

hi, can someone review this medical treatment page please? User:Bella-doctor/Micro-Chinese Medicine Osmotherapy

I'm a member of a health board that persistently have spammers promoting this treatment. On the face of it there are four or five companies but when you look at the detail you realise it is only one. And it uses google and hotmail contact e-mail addresses.

The only other google hit for the various terms they give are the page above. It seems to have no references, just claims of how great it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.149.106 (talk) 09:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

That's actually a user page, not an article. The edtior created it in May 2011 hasn't been back since then. However, even though it's a user page, I don't know if that type of content is allowed. But there's no doubt that a more experienced editor will see this and tell you soon. 76.189.109.155 (talk) 09:18, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

It's definitely still a violation of multiple policies whether on talk page or an article. See Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not#Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox or means of promotion. Hopefully someone can sort/delete it soon ツ Jenova20 09:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

I have deleted the page as it was an abandoned copy of the content of the page deleted at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Micro-Chinese Medicine Osmotherapy.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:16, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

See, I knew a great editor would take care of this. Three cheers for Fuhghettaboutit! 76.189.109.155 (talk) 21:17, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

:-) Much appreciated--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

facebook page called about babies

Where the hell do you people get off giving information to this page, and where the hell do you think you get the right to steal photos from other peoples facebook pages and put on this about babies facebook page. There are a lot of peoples pictures that have been stolen and a lot of people who want to know why. As wikipedia is mentioned as a source on this page, you have a lot to answer for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.216.0.59 (talk) 09:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

You appear to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way that Facebook reuses content from Misplaced Pages. Facebook, like any other website, is free to use content from Misplaced Pages articles, provided (amongst other things) that they attribute Misplaced Pages as a source. That is likely what has happened here; they've used some of the writing from an article on one of their pages. If there are photos from Facebook that are being misused on Facebook then this has nothing to do with Misplaced Pages; the photos are not stored on Misplaced Pages's servers nor were they ever stored here. You should contact Facebook about that. Now if there are photos being misused on Misplaced Pages articles on this website then we can do something about that, but that does not appear to be the case here. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 09:50, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

If you are aware of a picture which is being used on Misplaced Pages without its owner's permission, tell us, and it will be removed. But if you just refer to "this page" without saying what page you mean, there's nothing we can do. And if it's a Facebook page you are complaining about, please complain to Facebook, not to Misplaced Pages. Maproom (talk) 10:09, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Misplaced Pages—such use complies with Misplaced Pages policies on reuse of content. We at Misplaced Pages have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. --  Gadget850 11:15, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

It may be even more benign that this.

Many people are aware that when doing a Google search, a box shows up on the right, with some information, often from Misplaced Pages, and an image, often from Misplaced Pages. However, the image is often form some other place. The text is labelled as from Misplaced Pages, the image is not labeled, and people jump to the conclusion that the image came from Misplaced Pages. At OTRS, we deal with issues like this every day, where people complain that Misplaced Pages has the wrong image.

Facebook has launched something similar, call Graph search (See Facebook announcement, see Misplaced Pages coverage). While I haven't yet seen it in action, OTRS volunteers received an alert today thay people might be complaining about images from Misplaced Pages, even though those images might not be from Misplaced Pages.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:00, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Addendum. The images might also be from Misplaced Pages, but as responses above note, if it was properly added to Misplaced Pages with a free license (i.e. not a fair use) then Facebook is allowed to use it. It isn't the case that Misplaced Pages has given it to them, it is here to be used by anyone, including Facebook.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:08, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps it's time someone from WMF (perhaps His Jimboness himself) had a "serious chat" with the people who run Facebook because their sloppy attribution of material is causing real damage to our reputation. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:33, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

new article

I have just written an article about Bronisława Wieniawa-Długoszowska about 15 minutes ago and it disappeared! I had edited several times but not pressed the save button it was in a sandbox, a special one for writing biographies can anybody help?? Gervasevernon (talk) 14:23, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

You didn't write a new article in a sandbox, but edited the existing article, at Bolesław Wieniawa-Długoszowski. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Business Listings

Why are some businesses allowed to post history and number employees and general information about the company but others are not.This includes our hobby shop that my wife and I own located Olathe, Kansas.Example Tower Hobbies,Boca Hobbies they are listed but when I post about our company I get Blackballed what is up with that? Thanks Jim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pronitro1 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, first off, it wasn't that the company was allowed to write it, it was that an editor wrote the material. It was allowed to be kept because of what Misplaced Pages calls notability which is described at Misplaced Pages:Notability (organizations and companies) and has to do with whether we can verify the information in reliable sources. I assure you it is nothing personal. RJFJR (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

And also note that Misplaced Pages is not a directory. It does not have "business listings", it has articles about notable subjects.--ukexpat (talk) 15:08, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Also note that just because another page exists that appears very similar to one that is deleted in no way implies that the deletion was improper or unfairly handled. For any problem you encounter in an article and which which goes against our policies and guidelines, you will see many other articles with the same problem, not yet addressed. This occurs because of the decentralized way in which content is added and reviewed. Please see by way of analogy What about article x?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:06, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Mistake in information regarding Priyanka deSouza the most recently added Rhodes Scholar in the List of Rhodes Scholars article

It has recently been brought to my attention that my name appears in the 'List of Rhodes Scholars' wiki page. I would like to point out that I am not the first Rhodes Scholar from IIT Bombay. Ravish Tiwari from IITB won the scholarship earlier. I am the second from my institute to be awarded this scholarship. Please correct this in List of Rhodes Scholars — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.97.79 (talk) 16:29, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 18:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Google search question

Hi, why my articles(joscardozo wiki is not available)in not showing on the google search or why it is like USER/JOSCARDOZO. What I have to do to get my wiki on the wikipedia, please help.

User:Joscardozo/sandbox

REGARDS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joscardozo (talk • contribs) 16:34, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

You had created, and have now blanked, a user subpage not an article. By default user subpages are not indexed by Google.--ukexpat (talk) 18:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, there are a few issues here: 1) Misplaced Pages is not a social networking site or a repository for vanity articles. People who are the subject of articles must meet our notability guidelines. Are you someone who has achieved acclaim in his field of expertise? Are newspapers writing about you? Did you take an iconic photograph that made you the subject of international attention? That sort of thing. 2) Individuals who meet the notability requirements are discouraged from writing about themselves, as this would present a conflict of interest. 3) In order for the article you wrote in your user space to become an actual article, you'd need to submit it to articles for creation. However, based on what I'm seeing in your article (which you blanked from your sandbox today]), it suffers from a lack of any references. If reliable sources aren't reporting on you, and if there are no references in your article, it is going to get deleted ASAP. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Help:CS1 errors#Unknown parameter |????= ignored

See Misplaced Pages:Help desk/Archives/2013 April 29#Help:CS1 errors#Unknown parameter |????= ignored

There have now been three templates that I am aware have suffered from this problem (one that did not exist prior to the move to the Lua-based CS1 engine):

• {{Cite ODNB}} fixed by user:Dragons flight
• {{Cite DNBIE}} (problem lies in the page= and pages= parameters)
• {{Cite Notitia Parliamentaria}} (problem also lines in the page= and pages= parameters)

While these can be fixed relatively easily as was done with ODNB, it does complicate the code in those templates -- and while I appreciate that the current checking in the new core is superior to the previous code -- I think it would be helpful if an extra parameter was created that did nothing but silently swallow any information passed by that parameter. It would allow the current code to work with just a parameter name change, and it would be a useful feature as it can be used to reduce the complexity of code in any "wrapper template" that calls {{cite encyclopedia}} or similar.

It is good practice when calling a template to only pass in the parameters that are required as passing in parameters with an empty value can cause problems in templates if the person who writes the code is unaware of the problems and does not code accordingly.

Up to now calling a template and passing in an unknown parameter was handled silently which was a useful way to write simple code to protect against the problems of valid parameters being passed in with a null value. (see Help talk:Template/Archive 3#parameters in templates passed into templates tested and failing mw:Help:Parser functions in templates and mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions )

Adding an extra parameter that did nothing but silently swallow any information passed by that parameter would allow this new interface to closer to backwardly compatible with the previous interface and help keep the interface to the templates {{cite xyz}} closer to other templates that preform the same sort of reference function (there are a lot of them and more created all the time). -- PBS (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps WP:VPT is the best place for this?--ukexpat (talk) 17:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

I am happy to discuss it anywhere. Is that the best place to do so? -- PBS (talk) 12:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I fixed the other two examples you gave, though I used a different strategy than the first time. Personally, I'm not really sold on the utility of HIDE_PARAMETER, though I might be convinced. Dragons flight (talk) 18:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks I could have fixed them, but wanted to use them as examples as to how best to fix them (where in the code is the best place to do it), and fixing the immediate problem was not what I wanted to raise. BTW the parameter does not have to be called "HIDE_PARAMETER". I simply used that name because it was used in an example I saw, and thought it a reasonable self documenting name. Your solution to the page parameter can be generalised for any single parameter (assuming that cite ... does what the box says and empty parameters are ignored)

|prmtr-name={{#if:{{{prmtr-name|}}}|lead string {{{prmtr-name'|}}} post string }}

--PBS (talk) 12:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure we have been here before. HIDE_PARAMETER is an overcomplex solution. You could easily change

|{{#if:{{{last|}}} |last |HIDE_PARAMETER}}={{{last|}}}

to

|{{#if:{{{last|}}}|last={{{last|}}}}}

But, this is not needed with the new templates. Just use |last={{{last|}}}}}. Try it. --  Gadget850 00:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I do not think "|{{#if:{{{last|}}}|last={{{last|}}}}}" will works as you suggest it does. Here is an example of a template "{{wrapper template 1}}":

         
         This is wrapper template 1: <!--
          -->
         {{cite encyclopedia
         |{{#if:{{{title|}}}|title={{{title|}}}}}
         }}
         

         
         This is wrapper template 2:  <!--
          -->
         {{cite encyclopedia
         |title={{{title|}}}
         |title={{{wstitle|}}}
         }}
         

         
         This is wrapper template 2:  <!--
          -->
         {{cite encyclopedia
         |{{#if:{{{title|}}}    |title  |DUMMY_PARAMETER}}={{{title|}}}
         |{{#if:{{{wstitle|}}}  |title  |DUMMY_PARAMETER}}={{{wstitle|}}}
         }}
         

This is wrapper template 1: <!--
-->{{cite encyclopedia
 |title={{{title|}}}
}}

{{User:Gadget850/1}}

{{User:Gadget850/1|title=FRED}}

     {{wrapper 1
      |wstitle=FRED
      }}

     {{wrapper 1
      |title=
      |wstitle=FRED
      }}

     This is wrapper template 2: {{wrapper 1
      |title={{{title|}}}
      |wstitle={{{wstitle|}}}
      }}

      
      This is wrapper template 2: {{wrapper 1
      |{{#if:{{{title|}}}    |title   |HIDDEN_PARAMETER}}={{{title|}}}
      |{{#if:{{{wstitle|}}}  |wstitle |HIDDEN_PARAMETER}}={{{wstitle|}}}
      }}

addOnloadHook(function () {
   addPortletLink("p-tb", "http://commons.wikimedia.org/Main_Page", "Commons")
});

So you have {{Superman}}

and {{Superman/adversaries}}Template:Superman/adversaries

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