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It went unnoticed, but it's a serious problem with someone putting Nazi references into articles. It went unnoticed, but it's a serious problem with someone putting Nazi references into articles.
--] (]) 08:39, 11 May 2013 (UTC) --] (]) 08:39, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
:As your RSN thread was structured in such a way that it strongly directed uninvolved editors to conclude that the source was 'Nazi', I don't have any confidence in the results of that discussion I'm afraid. RSN threads should lay out the basic details, and seek genuinely fresh opinions. I'm unfamiliar with these source and don't speak Polish or German so I can't undertake my own assessment. As such, I'm not willing to follow up on this by sanctioning that editor. Regards, ] (]) 10:11, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

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Fortress of Mimoyecques FA nomination

Thank you for your help with the featured article nomination of Blockhaus d'Éperlecques. I thought you might like to know that I've nominated a related article, Fortress of Mimoyecques, for consideration as a featured article. If you have any comments on the nomination, please leave them on Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Fortress of Mimoyecques/archive1. Prioryman (talk) 09:10, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know - I'll provide some comments on the nomination later this week. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:43, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Please revert your recent edit on Samson

Nick,

The section where you removed my edit is absolutely awful in its current form as it proposes an insane conspiratorial idea that Israel will destroy the world. But some people have been arguing to keep it. If it remains it needs to be clear that this is not Israeli foreign policy but rather the opinions of some experts and the rantings of some lunatics.

Zuchinni one (talk) 06:50, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

No, I'm not going to restore that unreferenced material in which you attacked the reputations of various people. Please see WP:BLP. Nick-D (talk) 06:56, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
I did not attack anyone, nor would I. But that entire section is trash as it stands and it needs to be clear who is saying these things. I am happy to find another wording that you find less offensive, but I can't stand seeing people promote conspiracy trash on wikipedia as if it was the official foreign policy of a nation. Zuchinni one (talk) 06:58, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Please find reliable sources which argue the opposite then and use them to add material to the article - please see WP:NPOV and WP:V. Nick-D (talk) 07:03, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
See the talk page ... the first portion of my edit was a restatement of previously referenced material in the article which I did forget to re-reference ... the second portion was simply a statement to clarify that the rest of the section did not reflect Israel's offical foreign policy. Neither is POV or orginal research ... but I do admit that I forgot to put in the references. Zuchinni one (talk) 07:09, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Let's not run two discussions in parallel. Nick-D (talk) 07:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Look Nick, your an admin, a huge contributor to military history here, and in general I respect you and think that you are trying to make wikipedia great. I think that I am going to refrain from participating in the debate about this article for a little while. I made some mistakes and did not handle things as best I could. This is mostly because I feel so frustrated about something that appears to me to be obvious.
This article starts out talking about nuclear deterrence in a very reasonable way ... and it discusses what is basically a MAD scenario of deterrence quite well. And then turns into something that implies Israel has a secret agenda to destroy any who oppose it or possibly even the world by creating a nuclear winter. Those ideas come from fine sources ... and people speculate about stuff like this all the time. Its RS enough to be in wikipedia, but it should NOT be presented as if it were real foreign policy rather than guesswork, imagination, and wild conjecture.
You're a good admin ... make this page right. I'm recusing myself from it. Zuchinni one (talk) 07:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Admins have no extra say on the content of articles. As noted above, if you're aware of reliable sources which provide different accounts of Israel's nuclear strategy, please use them as references. Nick-D (talk) 07:40, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
No but you do have a say in making sure that articles follow Misplaced Pages guidelines and present information in an NPOV manner. As far as references that present a different view ... the rest of the article is full of them. They don't mention that Israel does not want to destroy the world, because they are not written as a response to that ... rather they just talk about actual policy. Zuchinni one (talk) 07:46, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

ARA Belgrano

Hi Nick, I've left a message at Talk:ARA_General_Belgrano#Ombudsman_statement explaining the re-addition of the ombudsman statement you removed from the Legal Controversy section to the Aftermath section. Please stop by when you have the time and tell me what you think. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

The Landing at Nassau Bay

Hello Nick—

And Happy New Year. I see that you are the original author of the Landing at Nassau Bay. One of the recommended readings is Morison's Battle of the Atlantic Volume. Is that your intent? Seems like the wrong ocean. ☺ JMOprof (talk) 14:18, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I think you've gotten me confused with Newm30 (talk · contribs) - I've never edited that article. I have read that volume of Morison's history, however, and it's definitely not the right one - the correct volume is Breaking the Bismarks Barrier. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:16, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Nick. Thank you. I apologize for my confusion. You did create its talk page, but that's just not the same thing. I clicked on the history of the wrong tab. ☹ I should've been clued in when there were no more edits ☺ I'll make the edit. JMOprof (talk) 13:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Best wishes for the New Year!
Wishing you and yours a joyous, healthful, and productive 2013!

Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my retirement as FAC delegate this year, and apologies for the false alarm of my first—and hopefully last—retirement; the well wishes extended me were most kind, but I decided to return, re-committed, when another blocked sock was revealed as one of the factors aggravating the FA pages this year.

Maintaining standards in featured content requires vigilance, dedication and knowledge of people like you, who are needed; reviews are always welcome at FAC, FAR and TFA requests. Somehow, somehow we never ever seem to do nothin' completely nice and easy, but here's hoping that 2013 will see a peaceful road ahead and a return to the quality and comaraderie that defines the FA process, with the help of many dedicated Wikipedians!

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:58, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy, and happy new year to you as well :) Nick-D (talk) 06:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year from Aotearoa!!

Talk:Belgian Army#Requested move - would you kindly consider providing some input at this RM? Buckshot06 (talk) 00:50, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for No. 78 Squadron RAAF

Updated DYK queryOn 6 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article No. 78 Squadron RAAF, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that No. 78 Squadron RAAF took part in the last major air battle between the Royal Australian Air Force and Japanese air units during World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/No. 78 Squadron RAAF. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Demba Ba

Hello Nick, can you take a look at this situation. It's been going on quite sometime & nobody has made an intervention. Regards ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 05:41, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Done. Cheers, Nick-D (talk) 05:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much, now I can get some sleep. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 05:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Australian National University Classics Museum

Updated DYK queryOn 7 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Australian National University Classics Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a bronze head once owned by the Roman emperor Augustus was stolen from the Australian National University Classics Museum in 2004? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Australian National University Classics Museum. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Australian Army in World War II

Gday Nick. The review for this article is here Talk:Australian Army in World War II/GA1‎. This really has been a collobrative effort between a number of editors, including yourself. Indeed if I recall correctly I believe you actually started the article originally. So if you're interested your involvement in the review would be most welcome. Thanks again. Anotherclown (talk) 13:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I've enjoyed working on this article, and will help out with the GA review. Hopefully we can also take the article to at least A class status. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:29, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
G'day, Nick, do you have any objections to the article being nominated for A-class this weekend? Sorry to rush you, but I'm heading away for six-seven weeks in February, so I'd like to try to get this one through ACR before then. In some ways this has become the defacto Milhist COTM for January... Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 21:29, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
No, not at all. I'll have a go at the POW section today to give it more of an Army focus, but other than that it's good to go. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 21:54, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Sure, I will look to nom tomorrow, then. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 21:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Rapier (missile) and Malaysian Army

It was in Malaysian service, but with the Royal Malaysian Air Force. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Nick-D (talk) 09:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

File problem on Commons

Hello Nick,

I recently created a new version of this file: . But since it had been transferred to Commons I didn't have the permission to overwrite it so asked AustralianRupert to do it for me. He has had a go but the changes don't seem to display and neither he nor I can get it to work. I was just wondering if you had any Common's expertise and if you could work out the problem? Essentially the changes were to add B Coy, 6 RAR (minus). Either the 00:03, 12 January 2013, 00:14, 12 January 2013 and 00:17, 12 January 2013 now look right, just not the current version. I suspect this might be a cache problem but have tried purging and it did nothing. Maybe it might come good of its own accord? Any assistance or advice you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Anotherclown (talk) 01:33, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

The truely weird thing is it displays fine in the thumbnail on my User page, but not in the article. And not when you click on the thumbnail... I'm stumped... Anotherclown (talk) 01:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
I just had a go at reverting to the 00:17, 12 January 2013 version, but that didn't work for me either. I'd suggest seeking help from the admins/experts at Commons - I presume that it's some kind of cache or coordination issue. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 01:46, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Will do - I appreciate you trying. Thanks again. Anotherclown (talk) 02:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Fixed now, apparently its an issue that will fix itself in time but you can "trick" it into displaying by changing the image to a non-standard size. Anotherclown (talk) 09:43, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

2012 tour of She Has a Name

Hi Nick,

Thank you for your comments on the 2012 tour of She Has a Name FAC. If you would be willing to weigh in on Sandy's recommendation to rename the article, your thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 20:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Jamrud(finale)

I have responded to Devanampriya's demand that I and Takabeg answer questions concerning the battle. I have no interest in his interpretation of the battle nor will I be adding other results to the template even though they are clearly backed by university sources. I do not see any edit warring starting since Denampriya has what he wants in the result section of the template. Not until Devanampriya can be held accountable for his original research and suppressing/mitigating of other university sources, will the article be edited with sources other than those permitted by him. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

You may wish to pursue dispute resolution using the procedure outlined at WP:DR then. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
I have filed here. Hopefully I did it right. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

October to December 2012 Milhist Peer, A-class and FAC reviews

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By order of the Military History WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted contributions to the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured Article Candidate reviews for the period Oct-Dec 2012, I am delighted to award you the WikiChevrons. AustralianRupert (talk) 09:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Nick-D (talk) 09:58, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Jamrud

Hi, i contacted you regarding the change made by IP to Battle of Jamrud while there is no consensus yet and matter is under dispute resolution. Thanks Theman244 (talk) 23:35, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - I've just blocked that account. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Theman244 is a POV-pusher and a sockmaster who removed scholarly sources from the article and you Nick-D wrongfully blocked an IP address. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.124.43 (talk) 11:20, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
No, I blocked an edit warrior. Nick-D (talk) 01:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Mediterranean, Middle East and African theatres of World War II

Hi Nick,

I saw that you reverted Tempaccount040812 name change of this article back in December due to lack of consensus etc. Due to Staberinde's recent comments on the talkpage, I have started looking at various ways to improve the article. One of them is, I think the name needs to be changed. My proposal, which has so far not been responded to on the talkpage, is to rename it either Mediterranean Theatre of War or the Mediterranean and Middle East Theatre (which would include the dropping of Madagascar and the east Africa fighting from the article, per Staberinde's comments, my own agreement, and how the official histories describe the fighting. Thus 'Africa' would become somewhat redundant). The names come from the American and the British official histories, respectfully, of the theatre. I have not been able to find out what, if, the Germans and Italians named the theatre. The German official history is termed "The Mediterranean, South-East Europe, and North Africa 1939-1942" and I have not been able to find if there is an Italian history.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 02:17, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Gaba p again

Sorry but he seems bent on disruption and has started a thread on WP:ANI, I would be grateful if you could comment. Wee Curry Monster talk 16:08, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

"I do care if you undo my actions without first discussing the matter with me"

Believe it or not, others feel that way too.—Chowbok 00:17, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:The Second World War (book series). Nick-D (talk) 00:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the speedy addition of a cite. My concern is with the phrase "reserve powers of the Crown", which seems to be included more for the purposes of obscuring meaning than anything else. We should be as precise as possible, and if there is indeed a good link describing the prerogative powers of the monarch as "reserve powers of the Crown", then I'll have no objection to you equating the two. Thing is, I can't find anything that's an really good source. This description, from the Parliamentary Library looks to be a solid source for the Governor-General's reserve powers, but it is quite distinct from the prerogative powers of the monarch. Further discussion on the article talk page, please. I really just wanted to let you know that I wasn't having a go at you personally by asking for a further cite. The one you provided is excellent, it just doesn't support the precise wording in the article. --Pete (talk) 03:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

I added a citation to that effect while you were typing that message ;) Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:24, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

CA 52

I've answered your comments, when you get a chance. --Rschen7754 05:44, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For your work on Boeing C-17 Globemaster III in Australian service -- Ushau97 (talk) 10:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Nick-D (talk) 11:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Boeing C-17 Globemaster III in Australian service

Gday again Nick. I think there may be a copy/paste error in the MILHIST assessment on the talk page. Or did I miss it at ACR? Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 12:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Whoops! I copied and pasted the tags from the F/A-18 in Australian service article and missed deleting that field. At least I didn't declare it a FA as I've done in the past through similar dumbness. Thanks for letting me know (especially so politely!). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
No worries at all - I was sure that was the reason. Another very interesting article too BTW, I'm enjoying this series. Anotherclown (talk) 22:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you - I'm really enjoying writing these articles. Nick-D (talk) 23:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Abbott

I've replied on my talk page. --Yeti Hunter (talk) 08:13, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013

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Holocaust train France Section

Hello Nick-D and a Happy New Year. I have now finished the more complete version of the "France" section within Holocaust train#Modern day legacy that I had promised late last year and posted this at Talk:Holocaust_train#Inaccuracies_in_Modern_day_legacy:_France. I hope you are available to provide your input. Thanks, Jerry M. Ray (talk) 21:41, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Jerry - I'll give that material a look. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy Australia Day! Thank you for contributing to Australian content!

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Thank you for your contributions on English Misplaced Pages that have helped improve Australian related content. :D It is very much appreciated. :D Enjoy your Australia Day and please continue your good work! Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Nick-D (talk) 01:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Military camouflage

Hi Nick-D, thanks for your prod, I wasn't ignoring you but missed the un-transcluded comments. Have fixed that and responded to everything (and the other reviewers). Hope it's looking better now... Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the note. I'm about to knock off for the evening, and will check your responses tomorrow. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 11:30, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


Someone is placing blocks on my talk page with your name on it

Strange. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:09, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

See below, and feel free to add a trout. I must have 'blocked' dozens if not hundreds of editors! Nick-D (talk) 21:54, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Half-trout

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

(Well, half of one... kinda grosser, if you think about it.)

You're sharing this trout with Parishan (talk · contribs), for inadvertently "blocking" everyone accused of edit-warring withiin the last 9 hours . No worries, and clearly this is about as honest a mistake as there is, but, to paraphrase National Treasure, someone's gotta go to jail get trouted. — PinkAmpers& 20:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I sure deserve that! I wonder why I did it? (I wasn't even editing while drunk or crazy!). Thanks for the note. I'll now throw myself at the mercy of WP:ANI. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 21:53, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hyphenating ship classes

Hi Nick-D, I noticed you reverted Anzac-class frigate. I have also noted a number of changes to hyphenate all classes of warships in RAN service e.g Paluma-class survey motor launch, Leeuwin-class survey vessel, etc. Not sure if we need to raise this higher. Editors are doing this apparently to meet WP:NC-SHIPS. Regards Newm30 (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've just left a note on the talk page of the editor who moved the articles to that effect. It's not in line with WP:COMMONNAME, which is a policy and trumps what looks like a rather wrong-headed guideline. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:14, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Proper English requires a hyphen for compound adjectives and the WP:Ships naming convention reflects that. COMMONNAME isn't applicable as I've seen the hyphen used and not for ship class names in published books and the navies themselves. There have been several lengthy discussions on WT:SHIPS over the issue.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:01, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
It's not applied to Australian warships in any Australian source I'm aware of (most obviously, the Royal Australian Navy's website). It's also not used in the American-published The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World. It does appear to be used in Jane's Fighting Ships though based on the online edition. Maybe its used by other countries, but these are effectively made-up titles when applied to Australian warships, and it doesn't seem appropriate to me to apply them. Nick-D (talk) 00:15, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The hyphen seems to be less used in more recent books, but I'd be curious to see how the WW2-era classes are referred to in books on the RAN published throughout the Anglosphere. Don't know if I'd buy off on an exception solely for Australian classes.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Not sure, but the hyphen looks unfamiliar to me. The RAN doesn't use the hyphen in its articles on historic warships (see and as a couple of examples selected at random). Nick-D (talk) 00:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The RAN is using proper grammar as the hyphen only comes into play when the noun is modified by a compound adjective, i.e. Bathurst-class minesweeper or 15-inch shell. If the word class is the noun in that phrase, then no hyphen is needed, i.e. "The Bathurst class were built..."--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:33, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Also, it'd be nice to have a common naming convention across all of Misplaced Pages's ships... Ed  06:29, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't see why, to be honest, unless there's a common naming convention across the English speaking world. Checking my references on the RAN indicate that the use of hyphens in class names is fairly rare. WP:ENGVAR seems to apply here, at a minimum. Nick-D (talk) 06:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Why? Because we're a global encyclopedia, and we like to have relatively consistent naming conventions. ;-) I don't see the big hassle here either, but if it's grammatically correct, I don't see a clear need to not do it. But that's just me. Ed  06:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I rather like diversity in articles myself. Nick-D (talk) 07:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
  • I hate the odd-looking and both commonname/commonsense violatinghyphen additions as much as you do, but, much as happened with the en (or was it em?) dash being forced through on dates in aircraft-by-decade categories, there reached a point where it wasn't worth arguing anymore about. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Apparently this would be a good time to update Misplaced Pages:NC-SHIPS#Naming_articles_about_ship_classes, which I was following regarding my moves. Plus other members are also moving templates plus other articles and also correcting text. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 07:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Did I open a can of worms? The world is a diverse place and sometimes an encyclopeadia cannot cater for every diversity. Regards Newm30 (talk) 03:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Note that I've started a discussion of this at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ships/Archive 36#Hyphenating Royal Australian Navy classes Nick-D (talk) 23:49, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Discussion on the AFT5 Request for Comment

Hey Nick-D - this is to notify you that there is a discussion starting on the Article Feedback RfC talkpage that has ramifications for the RfC itself. Your input is much appreciated :). Thanks! and apologies if I've missed anyone Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

KFC

Ok, I've responded to your KFC comments. Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/KFC/archive1 Farrtj (talk) 23:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Gallipoli Campaign improvements

Hi!

I was wondering if you would be interested in helping me improve the Gallipoli Campaign article towards being a good article nominee?

I outlined a list of things i feel are preventing its nomination as a good article.

If not i understand.

Thanks! Retrolord (talk) 03:46, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Retrolord, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. World War I isn't my strong point, and I don't have many references on the Gallipoli campaign so my capacity to help out isn't huge. If you'd like some help to work on developing this article to good article status, you could post a message at: Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Military history (you may also want to sign up as a member of the project :) ). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Request_to_revoke_Wikipedia:Administrators.27_noticeboard.2FIncidentArchive706.23Two_topic_bans_for_TonyTheTiger

Just so you're aware, an FPC thread you were in got linked from there, and is being somewhat discussed. Adam Cuerden 21:18, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Nick-D (talk) 22:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Jamrud

They are still editwarring. And accusations of sockpuppetry are being made on the talk page. Darkness Shines (talk) 21:57, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any edit warring, and there clearly is some sockpuppetry going on (I'm pretty sure that the latest round of edit warring before I protected the article included an editor who'd logged out in an attempt to not be identified and sanctioned for this; I don't have a clue who this was though). Nick-D (talk) 22:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

References

Hi! I was wondering if you would be able to tell me the procedure in Wikiproject Military History on citing online sources in articles. Is it acceptable for me to use online references inplace of books?

Thanks! Retrolord (talk) 08:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Online works are perfectly fine, as long as they meet the criteria for reliable sources. Please see Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources and Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources (history) for guidance. If your unsure if a source meets the criteria I'd be happy to provide comments, or you can ask for advice at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Request assesment

Well, i didn't know whom or where to ask, and because of this, i though i should come back to you for an assessment of INS Jyoti (A58). Thanks! --Anir1uph | talk | contrib 12:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, If you're looking for a good article assessment, that needs to run through the formal GA process (eg, WP:GAN). From a quick look at the article, it seems in good shape, though information on her 2002 and 2012 activities is missing and the material on her activities in some of the other years is pretty thin. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! I will try to improve those. Anir1uph | talk | contrib 15:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Joint Task Force Impenetrable Jargon

You may or may not be pleased to know it probably was copy-and-pasted (can I used hyphens, since this isn't an Aussie warship ;), but not from the internet, a NATO official document seems more likely. When they put up the command website they may use exactly the same wording. Buckshot06 (talk) 06:39, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

That's something to look forward to then! ;) Nick-D (talk) 06:44, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Hint

Take a look at this and then check out the history of this. Cheers! Delicious carbuncle (talk) 04:05, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

What a coincidence! Blocked and deleted. Thanks for the note. Nick-D (talk) 10:15, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm puzzled

You have "been around" for a while, and thus I have sought your opinion on more than one occassion. Hence, I'm rather puzzled by two of your recent edits and/or the accompanying edit comments.

  • remove unnessessary honorifics from the infobox
    • a) "unnessessary" sounds like your POV. I was under the impression that WP:I just don't like it was a totally inadequate reason for removing good faith edits. Please explain.
    • b) "unnecessary". The whole of wikipedia is "unnecessary". Do you intend to remove the whole of wikipedia? I expect not. Therefore, what is your explanation for deciding that this small piece, rather than anything else, is "unnecessary"?
  • an article already exists on that topic - Yes, it does. Why is that a reason for removing a link to it? Logic suggests that if it didn't exist, you couldn't link to it. And vice versa, the fact that the article does exist may, along with other factors, be reasons to link to it. I'm sorry, but I just don't understand why the fact that "an article already exists on that topic" is a reason to delete a link to it. Do you think you could explain that to me please?

Thanks in advance. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:18, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Why the confrontational approach to uncontroversial changes? Nick-D (talk) 10:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I think I must be missing something, because that is exactly the reason that I am trying to politely ask you to explain yourself - i.e. it appears to me that you are taking / have taken a confrontational / aggressive / dismissive tone, and you have made zero attempts to explain your reasons. Again, it is your POV surfacing when you say they are "uncontroversial changes". You are making zero attempt to understand why I'm asking, or even what I'm asking - you are just making a confrontational / aggressive / dismissive reply containing no information. Also, I'm seeing no evidence of you "assuming good faith", either.
I repeat: I'm rather puzzled by your approach; it doesn't seem to be consistent with what I have come to expect from you.
Hence, again, do you think you could explain this to me please? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:38, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
By-the-way: I have no desire to sour what I consider to be our good working relationship. It's just that - I'm puzzled. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:38, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but you're really coming across as over the top here - I do respond to questions which don't include suggestions that I'm trying to trash Misplaced Pages! To answer your questions: I removed those honorifics from the infobox per what I understand the usual convention; the honorifics aren't normally included in the names for these people in when they're discussed books and articles (eg, David Hurley is normally called 'General David Hurley' in newspapers and the like, and Stephen Smith only gets 'The Hon.' in official-type documents) and don't appear in the body of the article, and so aren't needed in this infobox. I removed the links to the new article as the old article it duplicates more or less exactly was already linked (in the infobox in the ADF article and in the other article whether the editor replaced the link to the old article), and has much more content than the new article. I've suggested to the editor who created the new article that they merge the two. Nick-D (talk) 10:59, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining your rationale by answering a number of questions I didn't ask. I had absolutely no doubt you had a rationale, and that it would be reasonable. That wasn't my point. Nor my intent.
Sorry, but you're really coming across as over the top here - Really? Are you sure you are reading what I wrote, rather than responding to what you think I wrote? Similarly, I'm totally puzzled as to how you can conclude from "Do you intend to remove the whole of wikipedia? I expect not." that I'm suggesting you are "trying to trash Misplaced Pages". Again, it seems like you are responding to what you think I wrote, rather than what I actually did write.
To cross the "t"s and dot the "i"s, please note that I am 'not (and was not) complaining about what you did. What I did was tell you I'm puzzled by the reasons you have stated for doing what you have done.
Now that you have stated and explained the reasons for doing what you did, I'm even more puzzled by your edit summary explanations - the edit summary explanations seem to bear little or no correlation with the actual reasons you state for making the edits.
So, if I am correct in concluding that the reasons you stated in the edit summary were NOT the actual reasons for your edits, then I am no longer puzzled. I hope that clarifies my intent, and my puzzle. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:26, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Registration?

This user thinks that registration should be required to edit articles.
I noticed this userbox on your user page, and never having noticed it before, I thought about it. I find that despite wikipedia's expressed intent, I agree with the sentiment. Do you know if there is any "user-group" or "discussion page" on this topic? If not, can you suggest how I might go about identifying one? (I don't think I'm up to trying to establish one yet!) Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I don't think there is. Ceasing IP editing is regularly proposed, but the Wikimedia Foundation (and many editors) is strongly opposed to making such a change. The edit filters help a lot though. Nick-D (talk) 10:59, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) There was a signifcant movement once to require Sign In To Edit; I stumbled across the page, but have never been able to find it again (gentlemen, start your conspiracy theories!); it involved a petition, heavily backed by editors who actually work in the trenches, that was sent up to WMFs ivory tower - where it got utterly lolno'd. Unfortunatly the only way SITE is ever going to be required is if we have another nasty kerfuffle like the one that ended the ability of IPs to start new articles. - The Bushranger One ping only 11:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Interesting. Does that mean that we need to start a nasty kerfuffle?  ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 11:29, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. Any time this is pushed, tell me. Buckshot06 (talk) 05:05, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

OK. I'm starting to get annoyed enough about IP vandals that I'm considering actually doing something about it. My problem is: What?

The list of 'Pages that link to "Template:User anti-anon"' contains well over 500 entries, so there's a decent sized initial "target audience". (Or at least I hope there is!)
Any advice on how to proceed? Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:VPP is probably the appropriate forum to propose this, though its a Perennial proposal. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:09, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
  • WP:PERENNIAL: This is a list of things that are frequently proposed on Misplaced Pages, and have been rejected by the community several times in the past. It should be noted that merely listing something on this page does not mean it will never happen, but that it has been discussed before and never met consensus. Consensus can change, and some proposals which remained on this page for a long time have finally been proposed in a way which reached consensus, but you should address rebuttals raised in the past if you make a proposal along these lines. If you feel you would still like to do one of these proposals, then raise it at the Misplaced Pages:Village pump.
  • Misplaced Pages:Perennial_proposals#Prohibit_anonymous_users_from_editing
Hmmmmm. Thanks for that. It sounds like I'd be embarking on a crusade to flog dead horses. Or am I being too pesimistic? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:06, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of DistrictBuilder article

Hello sir! Good day! Just gonna ask a question, why was the article deleted? --AR E N Z O Y 1 6At a l k 13:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Yep, - see the 'Hint' thread above. The article was created by a blocked editor, and was a continuation of the spamming which lead to the block. There's no need to call me sir by the way! Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:50, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Updated "Holocaust train" Draft

Hello, Nick-D. Thanks for commenting on my suggested update for the Holocaust train article. I thought your feedback was good, so I have revised it to add more about the U.S. controversy and replied to explain Marrus's writings on the Toulouse case. Please let me know what you think, when you are able. Thanks, Jerry M. Ray (talk) 23:45, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Re- Battle of Jamrud

Hi, Nick

Three IP's tried to revert the edits on Battle of Jamrud. I am sure these reverts are done by same person. You said page will be protected for one month, but it's actually not. There is still discussion going on. These three IPs are 182.177.74.223 (which was blocked by you for one week and no activity thereafter), 182.177.124.43, and 182.177.79.242 and last two of them are from very nearby location. Can you please look into this matter. Thanks Theman244 (talk) 02:01, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - I'm not sure why the protection didn't stick - I must have stuffed up when I applied it. It's protected now. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:13, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit assistance

Hi, I have added the costs to Operation Astute, but I am having some problems with the formatting. Would you be able to have a look and see if you can see what is wrong with it? The Australian Red Man (talk) 09:32, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, you were missing the |} needed to finish off the table - I've just added this. Great work with adding this information (and mastering the not-very-good coding for the tables), and welcome to Misplaced Pages. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:49, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Cheers for the help with the editing. The Australian Red Man (talk) 11:06, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
No worries - thank you for creating this article. Nick-D (talk) 22:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Oz Military Categories

Good heavens you're quick off the mark! Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 23:17, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured_picture_candidates/HMS_Hood_2

I apologise for not getting the restoration done in time for the original nomination, but it's done now. Adam Cuerden 23:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Adam. Nick-D (talk) 10:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

3RR at AK-103

Hi Nick, I just noticed a 3RR violation by two different editors at AK-103. Both editors performed 4 reverts. In the meantime, I should point out that the two sources being added by Special:Contributions/Theoccupiedkashmir are invalid and look like they're plagiarized from Misplaced Pages, so it was probably correct for the other editor to remove them. ROG5728 (talk) 19:10, 12 February 2013 (UTC) "(talk page stalker)Actually only TOK is over 3RR; the other editor is at three reverts, but not beyond (yet). - The Bushranger One ping only 00:43, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

At the risk of stepping on The Bushranger's toes, I've just blocked both those editors for 24 hours as 1) G PViB (talk · contribs) was edit warring without any attempt to discuss the matter and 2) Theoccupiedkashmir (talk · contribs) was edit warring without any serious effort to discuss the matter and continued edit warring by re-adding the material with a tag stating that it needs a citation. I have no objection at all at either editor being unblocked early if they provide a commitment to knock this off or demonstrate that they've since read WP:EDITWAR. Cheers, Nick-D (talk) 10:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Notification of discussion

A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman (talk) 22:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Request for clarification about a block

Hello, Nick-D. Three days ago, you blocked RussHawk for BLP violations. He made an unblock request, denying having made BLP violations. I declined the request, because it was abundantly clear that you were right, and he had made BLP violations. However, it seemed to me that he did not understand what the issues with his editing were, so I took the trouble to explain to him why he was guilty of BLP violations, and also what some other problems with his editing are. He responded to this by making another unblock request, accompanied by a long and detailed post, in which he explained his thinking. It seemed to me that he now showed a clear understanding of what had been wrong with his editing, and that he was not likely to do the same again, so I unblocked him. (I did consider consulting you first, but it seemed to me that what I was doing was not actually over-riding your decision, but making an independent decision in a different situation, as the circumstances had changed, and the reason for the block no longer applied. Nevertheless, if I had known about your note above beginning "As a note to my fellow administrators..." I probably would have consulted you, as you evidently have a stronger desire to be consulted than many admins. If you think I was wrong not to consult you, then I hope you can accept my apologies.)


Anyway, some of the things that RussHawk wrote, both before and after the unblock, led me to look further into the history, and I found two facts which seemed surprising, and I would like to hear you view about them. Firstly, I was surprised to see that you had blocked the user without his having received any warning or explanation as to what was wrong with his edits. Normally, blocking without warning is reserved for the most extreme cases, way beyond what seems to be the case here, and I wonder why you chose to do so this time. Secondly, the problematic editing was on the article Andrew Laming, which you have edited many times, and one of RussHawk's edits was even a revert of a revert you made. This seems to me to make you involved, and it seems at best questionable for you to block an editor in such a case, where you were in dispute with him, albeit on a small scale. Please note that I am not questioning your reverting, as the content you removed was clearly a BLP violation, and you were right to remove it: I am questioning only your blocking of an editor under such circumstances, rather than seeking an independent administrator.

I hope you can clarify for me why you took the action you took, and also whether you still think you were right to do so, and if so why. I am particularly struck by the fact that once he had received an explanation of what the problems were, he understood, and accepted that what he had done was unacceptable, which suggests that he might well have mended his ways if he had just been given a friendly explanation, rather than being bitten with a completely unexpected block. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi James, I concur with the unblock, and as this was pretty straightforward there's no real need to have consulted me. I'm not seeing the controversial aspect of blocking someone whose only editing since October 2011 had been to add material to the article of a living public figure calling them a racist though, and don't think that you're correct about the 'involved' aspect. I had posted a longer response to you, but I've just removed it as it was written while tired and cranky from a rather busy-but-dumb day at work; it's obviously available in this page's history, but I'd ask that you ignore it as it's long winded and cranky. I'll post something a bit longer than this, and hopefully rather civil, tomorrow. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 11:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
As a shorter, and hopefully more civil and coherent, version of what I wrote yesterday: 1) I'm not 'involved' as virtually all my contributions to that article have been with my admin hat on (it was an unwatched BLP which had been turned into spam for this guy which I cleaned up and then watched; I always vote for the other side of Australian politics, so there are no political motivations here - quite the opposite in fact) 2) the edit of mine which RussHawk reverted was removing a flagrant BLP violation (eg, the 'racist' material) so I'm not sure why you find me responding to this to be at all problematic 3) the block was imposed as RussHawk was essentially a BLP-violation only account given the pattern of his or her editing: it's pretty obvious that you can't go around calling people 'racist' anywhere, and doing so was his or her only purpose for returning to Misplaced Pages after more than a year away 4) given that RussHawk was quoting WP:BLP to justify calling this guy 'racist' in his or her initial unblock requests shortly after being blocked, I don't at all agree that a warning would have been productive and think that this actually supports my decision to go straight to a block - which per the usual arrangements can be lifted once the editor commits to stop their behaviour 5) all of the above is entirely in accordance with WP:BLPREMOVE. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:06, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks very much for that clarification. I do accept most of what you say, but I don't agree with all of it. I fully agree that the editing was a "flagrant BLP violation", and that reverting was right, and I attempted to make it clear that I was not questioning that, and that my query was only about the block. I have not checked every one of your edits to the article, but I am willing to accept that they were done in an administrative capacity. I still think, though, that there was no good reason for not giving a warning first: the worst that could have resulted was that there would have been one more unacceptable edit to revert before blocking, and the best was that the user would have got the message. Even if you thought the former was vastly more likely than the latter, no significant harm could have resulted by giving him a chance. You say "I don't at all agree that a warning would have been productive", but the point is that neither you nor I knows whether it would or not. In the absence of positive evidence, we are obliged to assume good faith, which is what you are patently not doing: you are asserting that you believe that a warning would not have worked, for which you have no evidence other than your assumption. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, in my experience politically motivated BLP-violation only accounts do not respond to warnings of any sort, and this editor's initial response to the block is a pretty typical result of such warnings - eg, they're ignored or it is argued that policy somehow supports the abuse they're trying to include in the article. I'm not going to assume good faith about someone who thinks its OK to use Misplaced Pages as a platform to repeatedly call a public figure a racist as they're clearly not acting in good faith. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:56, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Book you might be interested in

T.B. Millar, 'Australia's Defence,' Second Edition, Melbourne University Press, 1969. SBN 522 83917 7 (note pre ISBNs). Is here on my desk. Have been meaning to ask you about it. Do you want it? - if so I will try and figure out how to send it over. Buckshot06 (talk) 03:14, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I think that I already have a copy of that book - if not, the local libraries have it. Thanks for thinking of me though. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

References

Hi Nick-D.... I am working on the references u asked. For Battle of Farhadgerd one reference is -> it is spelled differently in this book but on Misplaced Pages the city is spelled Farhad-gerd instead of Farhad-jird. Thats common when writing eastern names in English you get various spellings in books. Also is helpful for the battles' references you are looking for.

Battle of Chapakchur -> and

--Awaisius (talk) 12:08, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Andrew Laming

Had left a comment on the article talk page. Maybe you should have read that first before you accused me of unconstructive editing. Hughesdarren (talk) 09:52, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. Nick-D (talk) 10:05, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

A major problem with the Laming page is the disruptive editing from his supporters (or staff? - one IP address is in the Australian Parliamentary Library). It is essentially censorship. Is this editing not "politically motivated"?RussHawk (talk) 12:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I suspect that it is, but it can't be proven - if you look through the history of the article, it was heavily spammy at one point. Thanks for pointing out the Australian Parliamentary Library IP though this could be a public servant playing with the article during their lunch break for all we know... Nick-D (talk) 22:56, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Request clarification/advice on how to name ship-class articles

At Bristol-class interceptor craft, two editors Trappist the monk and Oldag07 made two different edits for displaying the article name. Can you advice which is a more appropriate version, as i am confused which is the correct edit. See diff. Or guide me to the relevant policy page. Thanks a lot! Anir1uph | talk | contrib 13:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Basically, it depends on if the class is named after the lead ship of the class or not. For instance, the Template:Sclass-s - as the lead ship is USS Kitty Hawk, the class name is italicised. The Tribal-class destroyer, on the other hand, is not italicised, as the lead ship is HMS Afridi - the class is named after the naming scheme used for the class, not the lead vessel. In the case of the Bristol class, as the class is built by Bristol Boats, I presume that this means the class is named for the builder, not whatever the Indian Coast Guard named the first boat, so it shoudn't be italicised. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the fantastic explanation! :) I'l keep this in mind. Anir1uph | talk | contrib 18:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for that Bushranger :) Nick-D (talk) 09:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations!

The Military history A-Class medal with oak leaves
On behalf of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, I'm pleased to award you the A-Class Medal with Oak Leaves for your work on McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet in Australian service, McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II in Australian service, and just to break the pattern, Australian Army during World War II. Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Nick-D (talk) 22:54, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Patton ACR

I think I've responded to all of the comments you posted there. Let me know if there's anything else I should fix. —Ed! 13:07, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:MOS

Hi Nick, could you take a look at this user's edits? I've warned him twice, but he has continued to apply thumbnail settings and/or large images in infoboxes across dozens of different articles (no communication from him either). Obviously, per the MOS, we don't use the thumbnail setting in infoboxes, and we don't use large images there either. This is what he's done in all of his edits. I also warned two other IPs that apparently belong to this same editor: User talk:121.54.44.159 and User talk:121.54.44.178. ROG5728 (talk) 05:44, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

See also this new user account, which was apparently created by the same person. ROG5728 (talk) 04:50, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#New_Zealand_Army_article

You aware of this? Buckshot06 (talk) 07:56, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Would you like to comment here at all: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Admin_threats? Buckshot06 (talk) 08:02, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
I've just commented there. ANI seems back to being a train wreck... While you obviously need to take part in the discussion, you're not going to be able to make all those people happy, as you seem to be the bad admin who must be punished for today. Nick-D (talk) 09:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Very much appreciated - thanks for your comments. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
No worries at all. The show seems to have moved on today (some other admin is copping it no doubt). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:08, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Australian Flying Corps

Updated DYK queryOn 24 February 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Australian Flying Corps, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Australia had its own Flying Corps during World War I? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Australian Flying Corps. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013

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KFC

I have responded to your comment Farrtj (talk) 15:20, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Request for your assistance

Hi Nick,

Thanks very much for your earlier help on the FAC review of Fortress of Mimoyecques and my other related FACs. I wonder if I could ask you to look at my most recent FAC, Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/History of Gibraltar/archive1? It has a very heavy military history slant to it (not surprising given the history involved) so it might be something that you would be interested in. If you have any comments, they would be most welcome. Prioryman (talk) 21:55, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure - I'll post a review over the weekend. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:59, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Great, thanks very much. I'll look forward to seeing your comments. Prioryman (talk) 08:26, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Nick, just letting you know that I've tackled all of your comments and am awaiting your feedback on any remaining issues. Prioryman (talk) 08:38, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Whoops, I was waiting for you to address the final point on the current state of the economy, and missed that you'd done so. I've just supported - keep up the great work. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:30, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Request for admin assistance

Hi Nick. Could you please use your magic wand to delete a page from my user space (or tell me how to do it myself). The page is here - Nick Thorne 07:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Nick, I've just deleted that page for you. Unfortunately non-admins can't delete their own user pages, so the best way to get rid of them is to directly ask any admin to delete them or use the {{db-u1}} tag. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:31, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Nick, thanks for that. Sorry about the delay in replying, been a bit distracted lately. Anyway, once again, thanks. - Nick Thorne 08:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

NZ SAS

Congrats Nick - thought I maybe should mention that new orgn source to you, but you found it first !! It's 2013. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:38, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm going to start a discussion about whether the article should be moved to 1st New Zealand Special Air Service Regiment. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:28, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Another thought. I'd like to move all the carrier strike groups to 'Carrier Strike Group 1', rather than 'Carrier Strike Group One'. This is in-line with the way the rest of the U.S. navy groups are listed on Misplaced Pages and the Navy does it both ways. The point is I can see in the future horribly convoluted titles such as 'Cruiser-Destroyer Flotilla Thirty-Three' or suchlike, which get really ponderous. But I anticipate an enormous amount of resistance from User:Marcd30319. How do you think I should best attempt it? Buckshot06 (talk) 00:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
It would probably be best to use the request move process, and advertise the discussion at WT:MILHIST and WT:SHIPS so that it's not you vs him. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 00:40, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

can you direct me

Hi Nick, I have a description of engines, boilers, and auxiliary Machinery for the USS Iris document dated 1885. I'm trying to figure out if it would be of some use to someone on here. Can you help direct me to someone that might find it useful. Skully09 (talk)skully09 —Preceding undated comment added 17:12, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, The best place to 'advertise' this would be at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ships or Talk:USS Iris (1885). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:13, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
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I tried editing Battle of Jamrud only to find out its protected. When will the article protection be lifted? Caden 16:49, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

The protection is set to expire at 07:12, 8 March 2013 (UTC). Nick-D (talk) 01:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Commercial Application of Military Airlift Aircraft

I'd like to db-spam this. What do you think? Buckshot06 (talk) 09:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I've got a vague (and quite possibly mistaken) memory that it it already had been nominated for prod deletion when it came up years ago. Given that there was a fair bit of discussion of this article (mainly negative) at WT:MILHIST at the time, an AfD might be the better option. I'd vote delete on notability grounds alone. Nick-D (talk) 22:36, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Deleting the "Embassy English" article

Hi Nick, I am the creator of this article and would like to discuss more closely the reason for your deletion of this article. I was aware of the issues the article had from the beginning thanks to actions done by NawlinWiki. He/she PRODed it with regards to promo/advertising style of writing and not enough notable 3rd party references but I then made significant changes about the promotional tone that convinced him/her to remove the PROD. It was made clear that I would have to still work on collecting those references which I have been doing since. Bear in mind, all this only happened yesterday and I'm still finding my way around Misplaced Pages - this was only my first article. So please consider making it available again so that I can do more profound research for those sources.
In regards to notability, what is your view on an entity that has won the best chain school of the year four times in the past six years, has a load of excellence awards from languagecourse.net in recent years and has accreditations from all the major governmental language education bodies in countries where it runs its business? Doesn't the above mentioned constitute quite a major notability? As I wrote to NawlinWiki, I have many more 3rd party sources which I was going to cite under the article in the upcoming days. Embassy English has a dedicated page on its web just for the accreditations and awards, please refer to it here - http://www.embassyces.com/about/accreditation.aspx. I hope this reasoning will help change your mind. thanksKucherjan (talk) 12:39, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kucherjan, I deleted the article as it was total spam - it was referenced only to the organisation's website, and was written in a highly positive tone. Do you have a relationship with this organisation? In regards to what's needed to establish notability, please see WP:ORG - in short, for an organisation to be notable it has to have been the recipient of in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources. I'd be pleased to upload the article to your user space so that you can work on it, but will not do so without assurances that this isn't going to be used to advertise this organisation. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:50, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Category:Australian Aboriginal Tribes issues

I have pointed out the mess we have when Category:Wyandot people seems to be using people to mean something else than Category:People from Michigan. I am hoping people consider more the problem of the issue of multiple people meanings being interspesed before we do anything to make a bigger problem.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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Request for your advice

As you've kindly reviewed History of Gibraltar for FA, I wondered if you had any thoughts or advice on the issue raised at Talk:History of Gibraltar#Personal anecdotes? Please feel free to comment there if you do. Prioryman (talk) 12:42, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Vilyam Genrikhovich Fisher: Small Update

Nick-D,

Article: Vilyam Genrikhovich Fisher.

Another user has made a slight update to the article. I was wondering if you could read the second last paragraph in the "Capture" section to see if it flows with the rest of the article. I have also found and placed a reference to that sentence and added the book to the bottom of that page. It would be appreciated if you could look at it and fix anything that needs fixing. Adamdaley (talk) 04:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

It's not a topic I know anything about Adam, so my odds of improving the article aren't great ;) I'd suggest that you may any changes to the edit which you think would be beneficial. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I understand that you may not know anything about the article. I was concerned that the new additional information in the last 48 hours may have slight (or even a very small percentage) compromised the "A class" assessment. I am currently working on the new information that has been added by Africai. Adamdaley (talk) 03:07, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Canvassing?

This edit may violate WP:CANVASS. The project is not directly implicated in the RfA, the message has some bias ("a long-running member of this project"), and the audience could be partisan. If it is inappropriate, please remove it. Glrx (talk) 02:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

It's standard practice to post such messages for editors whose focus has largely been within the scope of the project - the notification obviously cuts both ways given that it raises awareness of the nomination among people who don't consider the nominee suitable as well as those who do. I have amended the message to remove the 'long standing' bit though. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 02:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, I understand your position. Glrx (talk) 03:01, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Maybe a larger discussion should be had after the current RfA. I can see where such a notification could be neutral, but just as easily it could be used for WP:votestacking, forcing us to look inside the head of the poster to determine their motives for placing the notice to determine if it was canvassing or not. I've been pretty active in RfA for a while now but haven't run across this. To offer a personalized example, if I were to run for Arb (don't worry, it will never happen) and I posted a notice at WP:WER, I would expect everyone to be rightfully upset and consider it canvassing, regardless of the motivation. That is the problem, it puts us in the uncomfortable position of determining motivation, and we are not judges. Again, perhaps a larger discussion is due, after the RfA. Dennis Brown - © Join WER 11:01, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
The trouble I have with calling this canvassing is that it opens the door to the possibility of not being able to post a notification anywhere, except, perhaps, a central 'RFA board' - which could easily get buried and forgotten. What would happen if you held a RFA and nobody came? Having someone post notices themselves that "I'm running for admin", I can see as canvassing. But a notice from another editor on WikiProject pages, neutrally worded? That's another kettle of fish, and we should assume good faith. Of course, this opinion will get you a breath of air, for everything else including the cuppa Joe I so desperatly need there's MasterCard. - The Bushranger One ping only 11:14, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
The flipside is the example I gave, since a Project where an individual is active is more likely to be favorable to them than not. It is difficult for me to picture a project as "neutral", but perhaps that is my lack of imagination. Some yes, others no, so we admin are forced to read their mind when they post it. I just used my best judgement based on my understanding of policy, just as you guys are, this just isn't something that has come up in a long time. Unquestionably, no one was trying to break any rules here, but the lack of clarity on the issue started some drama on the RfA talk page, which I attempted to shut down. As for neutral areas, the user's talk page is surely neutral. FWIW, I can't imagine an RfA that no one would show up for, the gauntlet always attracts plenty of attention. I'm fine with whatever the consensus is, and there are good arguments on both sides, hence the need for a larger, calm discussion or RFC at the Pump or wt:rfa next week. Dennis Brown - © Join WER 15:30, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I for one would prefer more, rather than less, editors that are actually familiar with a candidate voting in their RfA. Alerting individual editors that are friends of the candidate might be vote stacking, but a neutral RfA notification message in a Wikiproject can only lead to a better RfA outcome IMO. --Surturz (talk) 03:08, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that's my view - the people who are best qualified to comment on RfAs will often be the people most familiar with the candidate's history, and so where there's a strong connection to a Wikiproject a notification seems a good idea. This also helps to raise awareness of the process of applying for adminship, which new editors are unlikely to be familiar with. That said, I do see where the arguments against this are coming from. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Aus-NZ productivity recommendations

I think, perhaps, open up a new article just for them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotoruan (talkcontribs) 06:42, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I really doubt that this report passes Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines. It received some media coverage when it was completed, but as far as I'm aware is yet to be adopted by either government. Please see WP:N and WP:NOTNEWS. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:45, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Businessman

Thank you for protecting aka blocking the editing by non-admin users to Business Man telugu page in the Article namespace sir. You did the right thing. It would be better if you extend the expiry period. Thank you sir. Have a nice day and happy editing. Raghusri (talk) 12:30, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to keep the protection duration to a minimum so as to not prevent productive editing - the goal with the shortish protection was to stop the edit war only. Please let me know if the edit warring resumes and I'll either re-protect the article to block the edit warring editor(s). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
O.K. sir. Now i understood your intention after reading this. Surely, after the expiration i will tell you the thing, if the edit warring resumes again (or) not! Thank you for your co-operation. Have a good day. Raghusri (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello sir! No edit warring occured again. If it does then i will inform you. Have a good day and happy editing. Raghusri (talk) 17:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

23rd Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Kama (2nd Croatian)

G'day Nick, did you have anything else you thought should be addressed on this ACR? Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 10:28, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm so sorry - I forgot all about commenting on that ACR :o You've addressed all my comments. Nick-D (talk) 10:32, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Public relations preparations for 2003 invasion of Iraq

An article that you have been involved in editing, Public relations preparations for 2003 invasion of Iraq , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:58, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

AWM images

Hi mate. First off, really like the Old Parliament House shot -- one of the best you've had in that spot... Next, did you discuss something somewhere about the more specialised AWM image licensing they seem to have adopted, e.g. CC BY-NC? I'm finally working on another article, on No. 1 AD, and I see the best relevant photo is AWM copyright and CC BY-NC, which I don't think helps us very much since it can't reused commercially by people ripping it off WP. Possibly I'm just out of practice, but maybe it's better to try a fair use rationale... WDYT? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:26, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ian, The AWM still claims copyright over the photos with those tags I'm afraid (though I don't see how they can sustain a claim over that particular image within Australia...). It's images such as this (picked at random) where they don't claim copyright internationally. The licensing doesn't seem consistent here - this 1959 image (also picked at random) taken not far from where your photo was taken is marked as being PD! Short version: I agree that a fair use claim is needed, though this may be a case of something going wrong in the AWM's database. Thanks also for the nice comment re the photo! Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, at least the no-nonsense "copyright expired -- public domain" is still around, and sometimes you get happy inconsistencies like the Sabre one you've noted. The annoying thing with my No. 1 AD pic is that AWM copyright should in effect mean Commonwealth copyright, which on WP (as opposed to Commons) you could invoke Clause E of PD-Australia since it was taken more than 50 years ago -- but I bet someone would argue the point... ;-) Guess I'll go the FUR route and see how I go... Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
It might be worth sending them an email noting that this image appears to have been miss-labeled and asking that this be reviewed. My understanding is that the Sabre is marked the way the AWM intends things to be marked given that its moved into the public domain and the 1 AD one isn't marked correctly given that it's actually PD; I could be mistaken about this, or there could be something else going on with the 1 AD photo (eg, it could be a non-government photo which has been donated to the AWM, but they're normally pretty good about marking such records in their database). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:59, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Eighth Route Army

Hello Nick-D,

Would it be possible to put a temporary IP editor block on Eighth Route Army -- there is an IP editor from the Philippines who insists on adding a "see also" statement linking to the Malaysian Army, which has bullocks-all to do with the article's topic. I reverted the entries three times, no idea why they are being made, and of course, the IP addresses vary a bit each time so their talk page(s) are worthless in this instance. Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 06:46, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, That gets the prize for the weirdest thing I've seen on Misplaced Pages for a few days. I've just semi-protected the article for a week and warned the editor: please let me know if this nonsense continues. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Nick. Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 18:00, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind

I changed the WM-Au member to a single template that can be categorised in the future. Feel free to undo the change. Bidgee (talk) 11:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

That's a good change - thanks! Nick-D (talk) 07:05, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

AFD - Legal abuse

Thanks for your comment at RSN related to the sole source for this article. I've gone ahead and filed Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Legal_abuse. Fladrif (talk) 17:42, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

No. 485 Sqn

You're on the ball. I was thinknig about giving you a heads-up on this; I'd like to change all the 485-490 series. Then have to figure out whether to rename No. 10 Squadron RAAF to No. 2210 Squadron RAF (just joking)!! Buckshot06 (talk) 22:56, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe you shouldn't do that to 10 Sqn ;) A few years ago there was a discussion over whether the 'Australian' Article XV squadrons should undergo a similar move, and the consensus was that they should remain at No. 4xx Squadron RAAF as this is what most sources call them (while also noting that in many cases the units contained few Australians and weren't under the control of the Australian Government). I'm not sure what the situation for NZ is, but if 'RAF' is more common then the moves would be a good idea. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 23:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
I see 92 Wing wasn't formed until the late 1970s. What were the wings directing 10 and 11 beforehand at their separate bases? Buckshot06 (talk) 23:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Not sure to be honest - Ian Rose will probably know. The RAAF's historical organisation is pretty confusing and very badly documented in published sources. Nick-D (talk) 23:19, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Clearly none of us have anything better to do... ;-) Yep, I think 10/11 Sqns just came directly under the relevant area/operational commands until 92 Wing. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Ian, can we dig up an orbat of the RAAF in 1950, 1960, and 1970, with all applicable wings, groups, and commands? Where would one look for sources? Buckshot06 (talk) 23:43, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I've thought of that myself and have checked in a few areas because I've written most of the articles on RAAF wings here at WP (Nick did the excellent 1 and 80 Wing articles), and I'm working on and off on an article on RAAF area commands, but it's a bit hit and miss. For instance, George Odgers wrote a series of books on the Air Force, generally under the title RAAF or Air Force Australia in the 1980s and '90s, which are fairly useful in that regard, and there's also titles like Defence Reporter and Australian Aviation Yearbook that occasionally pop up in my searches. I checked a book or two Odgers wrote on the Air Force in the '50s or '60s that are in the Mitchell Library but they were more about deeds than organisation, unfortunately. Then again some wings' operations books are digitised at NAA, but not all, and not for all their existence (frustrating). Are you thinking of little orbat articles, or just interested for reference as and when needed? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:20, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
HAve you considered going directly to the Office of Air Force History, http://airpower.airforce.gov.au/Contents/About-APDC/About-APDC/7/Office-of-Air-Force-History.aspx ? Seemingly at Defence Establishment Fairbairn. Would ring them to locate a historian rather than an administration clerk who might obstruct you, and then send that historian an e-mail. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Also would you mind mounting your draft somewhere? Cannot find it in your five drafts. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
To answer your question, would prefer set Structure of the Royal Australian Air Force in 1955 or something of the sort. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I've spoken to the Office in the past, having become acquainted with them when I wrote some of the base articles for the Units of the RAAF in 1994-95 (only wish I'd agitated for articles on wings, groups and commands, but I came to the project very late in the piece)... Anyway, a lot of what they provided me in my early days at WP is now online through the Air Power Development Centre. With unit histories and so on, unless they've been 'published' on the net, they're not that helpful as WP sources.
Re. the commands article, I tend to write my stuff in Word docs that I can work on anywhere, with or without the internet.
Structure snapshot articles sound like a good idea if we can source them -- now I'm getting back into articles a bit, I might raid the books at the Mitchell again and see about taking down the broad organisational data from the Odgers books, and anything else I can find. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Ravi Rikhye at Orbat.com will publish any re-presentations of OAFH docos we might write. Who's your contact at the OAFH- I'll talk to them myself. Buckshot06 (talk) 06:30, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Bugle

Hi mate, just letting you know I've finished a draft of Project News and will quickly go over the other sections, then I'd like to despatch ASAP, since Prioryman/s triple-TFA should occur today (from 11AM our time of course). Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:46, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ian, I've made a couple of tweaks, and it all looks good to go to me. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 01:19, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013

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Book review

Hey noticed you need a book review for the bugle cant wright one this week I am a bit busy. But I was wondering if the book Killing Rommel would be a good book to review for the bugle. Thanks Nhog (talk) 17:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

That would be great - when you're ready, please post the review at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/News/April 2013/Book reviews. We try to get the Bugle Out in (or about!) the third week of the month, so something in the next couple of weeks would be perfect. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:44, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

WW II PR

I've requested a PR for World War II, and thought you should know, as you seem to be a regular editor of that article. -- Aunva6 13:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Norman Selfe

Here it is - relisted. Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Norman Selfe/archive2. Cheers :-) Wittylama 09:12, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - I'll post a review over the weekend. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:24, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Nick. As someone who's commented on the Norman Self nomination, and now that the nomination is nearing the bottom of the FAC list with no new recent comments, I'd like to encourage you to make a statement of support/oppose or add new comments. This is the second time the article has been listed for FA as the first time was closed citing a lack of overt support votes. I'd hate for that to happen again. Sincerely, Wittylama 09:17, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the reminder - when I last checked in a couple of weeks some of my comments had not yet been addressed. I've just commented there. Nick-D (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Eighth Route Army (again)

Hi Nick, any chance Eighth Route Army could be protected for a while again? The "Malaysian Army" linker is back. It is quite odd. Thanks, W. B. Wilson (talk) 08:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've just blocked their latest account and protected the article for a month. As before, please let me know if this happens again. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:58, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks again Nick. Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 14:55, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Op. Hardboiled

Hi, you recently left a review at my FAC :) I think I've addressed all of the matters you raised, if you get chance to stop by and take a look see if there is anything else that needs looking at that would be awesome :D Cheers --Errant 13:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


Naval History

Hi Nick-D, I'm a member of WikiProject Ships. To help naval historians here at Misplaced Pages in the effort of writing and citing naval history articles sometime ago I created the List of ships captured in the 19th century and Bibliography of early American naval history pages. Over the last year(+) I have been tracking down and including names of captured ships and naval history texts for inclusion in either of these articles. I like to think that I have included most captured ships (19th century) and most naval history texts (1700s-1800s) for inclusion in these articles, so if you know of any captured ships or naval history texts that are not included would you kindly include them, either on the page or the talk page of the appropriate article? Any help would be a big help. Thanx -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:54, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, That's not really my area of specialty so I don't have anything to add. I'd suggest posting at WT:MILHIST if you haven't already done so. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Rolf Harris

According to WP:FULL, edits can be requested on the talk page. Please can you unlock the talk page as I have an uncontroversial edit I want to propose. He does live in Berkshire . Widefox; talk 23:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not going to unlock the talk page given that it was only being used to violate WP:BLP. If you tell me exactly what change you'd like to make to the article I'll consider adding the material, but it might be best for this to wait until after the various rumors have died down. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Although almost moot now as the block is expiring..can you put padlock signs on the article and talk page, and my understanding of WP:PP is "If a page and its talk page are both protected, the talk page should direct affected editors to Misplaced Pages:Request for edit, to ensure that no editor is entirely prevented from contributing." I'm no admin, so I guess you're following a higher policy?
My edit is "He has lived in the UK for more than five decades, residing in Bray, Berkshire.
...but now I know the correct place for my edit request is RfE (never needed it before so this has stumped me)...I shall follow that procedure. Do agree with you about BLP violations of course.Widefox; talk 00:29, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
No, I wasn't following some 'higher policy'; I just wasn't aware of that guidance. Cheers, Nick-D (talk) 10:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
OK, no problem  Done - I meant WP:OFFICE as from my limited understanding/experience BLP full for both is rare (there's no template). Widefox; talk 14:48, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
WP:BLP also gives admins discretion to lock talk pages when they're being used to violate the policy (see Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons#Semi-protection, protection, and blocking and the earlier note in the policy that WP:BLP applies away from article-space). I didn't add the protection templates as there's a bot that automatically does this - it doesn't appear to have worked on the talk page though unfortunately. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:41, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Good stuff. I'm guessing the bot is locked out too on full protection. Thanks Widefox; talk 16:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
  1. "BBC Berkshire A majestic painting". BBC. 20 December 2005. Retrieved 4 April 2013.

The nominating of Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian revolution under Hosni Mubarak's rule

I have replied to what you wrote. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for the Baadshah (2013 film) article protection

Hello sir. I request you to protect the Baadshah (2013 film), because the film is released today and so many nonconstructive and test edits are occurring while i am editing. Please protect the article from unregistered users, non autoconfirmed users for a period of two weeks. Hope you will protect sir. Thank you. Raghusri (talk) 12:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, The volume of vandalism doesn't seem very large, and there appear to be far more productive edits from IP accounts than vandalism, so I don't think that it would be suitable to protect this article at present. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:58, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
O.K. Sir. Please see today's edits a lot of nonconstructive edits from IP's. I am reverting those daily. Please check again once. Thank you sir. Raghusri (talk) 09:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Unless I'm missing something (which is always possible!), you appear to have only reverted a single edit today. I don't like IP vandals either, but that level of vandalism isn't even close to the level needed to justify semi-protecting the article. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 11:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
O.K. As per you wish. Raghusri (talk) 14:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Globemaster GAN

Hi mate, just seeing if you were monitoring the review, it's ready for you to check back. BTW, another great shot at the top of the page here, particularly like the dust at the point of landing... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ian, I'm currently editing the article right now to take your comments into account. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

EAst Timor Defence Force

Hi Nick, have recently found some Timorese decrees which suggest the structure of the F-FDTL may have changed significantly; a land component and support component, rather than the structure that we portray at present. Would like to check with the US DOD document you got, but it seems to have been removed: would you mind flipping me 'Embassy of the United States, Dili (2010). "U.S. Military Engagement: 2009 in Review". Embassy of the United States, Dili. Retrieved 18 July 2010' Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 10:59, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll check to see whether I saved a copy of that tomorrow. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 12:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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TFA

Hi mate, discussion at WP:TFAR on a suitable article for Anzac Day this year and one of yours has been mentioned -- see under April 27 -- Charles Eaton (RAAF officer). I nom'ed the latter but Hawkeye suggested doing it on Anzac Day (which probably makes more sense) but I could just as easily shift it to a non-specific date. Your thoughts welcome... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:45, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Ian - I've just commented there. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Guantanamo Bay detainees accused of possessing Casio watches

Hello,

I closed this as delete, but User:Diego has pointed out to me that the BLPPRIMARY issues mentioned in your nom to have been resolved, something that I missed, and something that none of the participants voting "per nom" addressed. COATRACK really does not seem applicable since I don't see a NPOV issue with the article; it is about what it claims to be about. Since the most convincing argument--the sourcing--has been resolved, I am tempted to reverse my deletion. I wanted to get your input first, however. Feel free to reply here, although commenting on my talk page might help centralize discussion. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 01:39, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

John Moulton

In reference to the deleted article John Moulton (medical practitioner) I'm wondering if you might reconsider your opposition to this article. I have recently read WP:NRU and feel that it conclusively proves Moulton's notability for inclusion in Misplaced Pages. I hope you will agree and assist me in it being reinstated. As the team doctor he was an administrator of a "High Performance Union" for a long period and also at the time of winning the Rugby World Cup so he is clearly deemed notable by current standards. Castlemate (talk) 04:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Notability of individuals is determined solely by the availability of reliable and independent sources which provide in-depth coverage of their life. If such sources exist about Mr Moulton he's notable, but notability isn't inherited by his job in the Rugby Team in isolation. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:41, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

ADF

Hey There,

I edited the "Current Expenditure" section of the ADF article with the US concerns about Australian defence spending in 2012. I didn't leave an explanation because I'm relatively new to this and didn't know it was required. The articles cited are from 2012, which is much more recent than many in the overall article and I think still relevant because Australian defence spending has not been raised as a percentage of GDP since. I have taken the word "recent" out though, due to subjectivity.

Regarding your second comment, I think that American defence spending cuts since are irrelevant to the discussion. They have not retracted their critisism and neither has Tony Abbott so I consider that they both stand. Incidentally, even after cuts the Americans spend roughly double on defence as a proportion of GDP as Australia does.

Cheers. Crikeydick (talkcontribs) 13:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I think that this would be best discussed at Talk:Australian Defence Force, and I've moved it there. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Book Review

Nick, I've got a book review for you at the end of on the Japanese Navy's air service. The one on the RN in the Med still needs some work. Feel free to edit as needed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:16, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for that - it's an excellent review. I hope that you'd borrowed the book! I've just posted the review at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/News/April 2013/Book reviews without any alterations. Please let me know when the other review is ready (or post it there yourself :) ). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:48, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Glad you liked it. The RN in the Med review needs further thought, though I'm having problems thinking what else could be addressed in the review. If you've got any thoughts, I'd appreciate them.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 09:43, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
You could expand upon the summaries of the activities of the fleet written by Professor Halpern (eg, do they make the book a good choice for editors looking for an overview of this topic?) and comment on how well selected these documents seem, but there's not really much to be said about compilations of primary sources such as this. Nick-D (talk) 10:43, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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The military history of Australia during World War II began with Australia declaring war on Germany on 3 September 1939. By the end of the war, almost a million Australians had served in the armed forces, primarily in the European theatre, North African campaign, and the South West Pacific theatre. In addition, Australia came under direct attack for the first time in its history. Casualties from enemy action during the war were 27,073 killed and 23,477 wounded. While most Australian forces were withdrawn from the Mediterranean following the outbreak of war in the Pacific, they continued to take part in the air offensive against Germany. Australian forces played a key role in the Pacific War, making up the majority of Allied strength in the South West Pacific. The military continued offensive operations against the Japanese until the war ended. The war contributed to major changes in the nation's economy, military and foreign policy. It accelerated the process of industrialisation, led to the development of a larger peacetime military and began the process with which Australia shifted the focus of its foreign policy from Britain to the United States. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for McDonnell Douglas A-4G Skyhawk

Updated DYK queryOn 12 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article McDonnell Douglas A-4G Skyhawk, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that ten of the twenty McDonnell Douglas A-4G Skyhawk aircraft (pictured) operated by the Royal Australian Navy between 1967 and 1984 were destroyed as a result of accidents? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/McDonnell Douglas A-4G Skyhawk. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Herc in Australian service

Well the article's up now, and submitted for B-Class assessment first off. Also created a DYK nom here, so feel free to tweak or add an alternative (I'm aiming to review someone else's hook on Sunday)... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 16:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Ian - and nice work fixing up that photo. I've just added a few more odds and ends to the article. Nick-D (talk) 00:11, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Great, I don't know why I hadn't used Always There before -- must've confused it with Always First, which I have. BTW, for my next trick, I'll be creating articles for 90/91 (Composite) Wings, the ones specifically/temporarily created for Malaya and Korea. I think I finally have enough data from the usual disparate sources to take them on... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:49, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't use that book as often as I should either, which is a shame as it seems pretty good. It's good to see the links at List of Royal Australian Air Force wings turning blue, though I added another four yesterday! Nick-D (talk) 05:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Yep, I'm going to try and flesh out the 84 and 92 Wing articles eventually as well -- planning to raid the Mitchell's collection of printed RAAF News copies to see if I can't nail down some dates and other useful info. BTW, the Herc article is now at GAN -- took the liberty of listing you as a co-nom so you can take your share of the credit or blame... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'm planning a trip to the AWM Reference Centre in a few weeks time to consult a few really obscure books, including their manuscript which has the key dates and locations for all the RAAF units of World War II - please let me know if I can look anything up for you (I have the status of 86 Wing in 1945/46 on the list to check). Nick-D (talk) 05:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good -- haven't been to the AWM for years as I haven't had occasion to travel to Canberra since my Defence contracting days, but I guess I should bite the bullet and just do it sometime... Till then, WWII wing orders of battle and especially establishment/disbandment dates would help. Aside from 86 Wing's disbandment (if applicable), what I need are:
  • 72 and 73 Wing disbandment dates/locations.
  • 75, 83, 84, and 85 Wing establishment/disbandment dates/locations, and OOBs at any given date/location.
  • 81 Wing establishment date/location.
The other wartime ones I've found on digitised unit histories from NAA. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:17, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Ian, I'll add those to the list. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:04, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Found the 81 Wing info I wanted in an RAAF News in the Mitchell. Another issue indicated that 84 Wing formed on 11 September 1944 and disbanded in 1946, but locations for both those events and any OOB(s) mentioned will still be useful -- as will inaugural COs and any other notables serving with each of the wings I've noted. Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:04, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
OK, nice work. I hope that you didn't have to spend too long going through old newspapers for that information. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:39, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Ian: thankyou for intending to take a crack at Nos 90 and 91 Wings. Buckshot06 (talk) 12:20, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Whining about propaganda again

Nick-D,

In a recent comment on the MILHIST forum, I alluded to what I perceive to be a relatively common practice; that of the introduction of propaganda into the EN Misplaced Pages. This diff is an example of what I referred to.
As a disclaimer, I'm an old guy whose roots are primarily Scottish and Walloon, so I hold no ties to either parties mentioned in the diff. But I find it curious the diff maintains an ethnic distinction in one case while in the other case, the ethnic distinction is simultaneously removed yet promoted to a more official ("government") status. To me, it subtly suggests that the one party deserved to get their tanks smacked by this missile because they were in conflict with the legitimate authority in the country.
Am I just too damned sensitive about this kind of thing? I left the diff alone because it is not too blatant, I don't wish to appear to be a Wiki-crusader, and I agree with the quote at the top of your user page concerning arguments with anonymous entities of the internet. I would appreciate your views on this. If I'm overly sensitive to these kinds of edits, please advise. Thank you, W. B. Wilson (talk) 07:27, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, That edit does seem to reflect a POV of some sort. I don't know much about the 1990s wars in the former Yugoslavia to know whether 'government' is accurate/common usage or not, but it clearly reflects a different viewpoint. This is all over the place though - for example, lots of our coverage of the Vietnam War is written from an American perspective in which the US troops are fighting people identified only as 'Communists', and I imagine that you wouldn't have to look too far to find a questionable use of 'terrorist' or 'aggressor' in articles on the Arab-Israeli conflict. I'm also fond of banging on about the problems with using German terms for WW2-era things for which perfectly good English-language equivalents exist on the grounds that they're imprecise and can have a mystique of sorts attached to them, but I've never won a great deal of support! To cut a long strong short, I don't think that there are any significant programs to deliberately insert biased wording, but this kind of thing does add up to be a significant problem and I personally favour using neutral and plain-English terms. Nick-D (talk) 08:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
for lighting fast action with you nuked every possibility of action of "that" vandal. Dэя-Бøяg 00:43, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much and very well done: I've not even had the time to add a further note at WP:AIV that I've seen only a flash :-) . Regards. --Dэя-Бøяg 00:47, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

No worries - I had a feeling that they'd keep coming back. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 02:42, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm sure he'll back. Anyway, he's back, just to troll (again and again and again) in his talk. Could you please expand the block of Perrys Conscience (and, btw, MidTex) to the option cannot edit his talk page? Thanks. Could be useful to eventual further sockpuppets also. --Dэя-Бøяg 20:12, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Concur that TPA revocation for general trollishness is called for. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
MBisanz (talk · contribs) beat me to it. Nick-D (talk) 10:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Help with editor

I have been involved with this] only as a passerby attempting to help. I don't normally get involved with these things. I noticed on the users talk page you have been involved with this editor previously and I didn't know where else to go or how t go about this. User:G PViB has continued to editwar with the same issue and displays quite the attitude. If you are not the right person to handle can you please notify another admin to review? This guy just isn't getting it, unfortunately. Thanks. 174.118.142.187 (talk) 04:13, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Bbb23 (talk · contribs) has looked into this, and I agree with their response, including their warning for G_PViB to be civil. Nick-D (talk) 10:09, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


Better picture for the Norma Redpath article

Thanks it really is a much better picture dnw (talk) 09:40, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

No worries - I'm pleased to have been of assistance. Next time I'm passing through with a proper camera (rather than a camera phone) I'll try to take a better photo. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:17, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXV, April 2013

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 16:05, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Lockheed C-130 Hercules in Australian service

Updated DYK queryOn 24 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lockheed C-130 Hercules in Australian service, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Lockheed C-130 Hercules (pictured) entered service with the RAAF in 1958, making Australia the first country after the United States to operate the aircraft? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lockheed C-130 Hercules in Australian service. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

"Take it to the talk page"

Obviously I'm interested in engaging in a dialog on the talk page if there is consensus that the material (added by a community banned user) satisfies policies like WP:WEIGHT and WP:BLP. You are, in fact, cordially invited to participate in that discussion. Thus far, however, contrary to your own advice, you and other editors seem to be interested only in edit-warring. Why is that exactly? Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:05, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Why the aggressive post assuming bad faith? I wasn't aware that there was a post on the talk page - thank you for pointing it out. Nick-D (talk) 00:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Obvously a revert with an edit summary of "Take it to the talk page" when there is already a post on the talk page is totally inappropriate. Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
See above - I wasn't aware that there was a post on the talk page. Nick-D (talk) 00:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Did it not occur to you to check? Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:21, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
I do make mistakes occasionally you know. Cheers, Nick-D (talk) 00:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Comments left at RfA

Thank you for leaving comments at my RfA. This is just a friendly notice that I have replied to them. Regardless of your vote, and your decision to continue this conversation or not, I appreciate you taking your time to vote in the the first place. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:01, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment on Buckshot06 talk page.

Thank you for your constructive comments in the ongoing discussion between myself and Buckshot06. However the issue is not one relating directly to an article being written or to specific edits. It is to a specific action that Buckshot06 failed to carry out in February of 2012 in relation to . I am still waiting for him to give any sign that he does understand what the actual issue is.Graham1973 (talk) 05:11, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied on Buckshot's talk page. Nick-D (talk) 08:00, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Wrong answer. I see you missed the one person (Myself) who didn't take part in the February 2012 discussion because someone couldn't be bothered to notify them it was taking place. I cannot trust Buckshot06 for that reason.Graham1973 (talk) 15:50, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Milhist FA, A-Class and Peer Reviews January–March 2013

The WikiChevrons
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted contributions to the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured Article reviews for the period January–March 2013, I am delighted to award you the WikiChevrons. AustralianRupert (talk) 22:43, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

External link

Hi Nick-D, could you please give me the reasons as to why the external link was inappropriate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varunksood (talkcontribs)

Because it had almost nothing to do with the subject of the article. Please see WP:EL. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Question

Hi Nick-D, I'd like to ask you a question about this comment of yours please. You write: "Moreover, given that bans are only ever applied to people who have well and truly exhausted the community's patience..." So, my question is: what is "the community"? For example user Russavia is a member of the community, is he not? On the other hand you and other 3 users left one of the community's project because of Russavia:Jimbo Wales writes: "Russavia, this statement is so horrific that I am more convinced than ever that commons is ethically broken. You should be ashamed. and so on, and so on. So, is this a good thing to "truly exhaust" Russavia's patience or is it a bad thing? Thanks. 76.126.142.59 (talk) 19:09, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I'm not sure that I understand your question (which might be based on miss-reading my comment; bans are applied to editors who have exhausted the community's patience, and not as a way of punishing people per-se). As noted in my edit summary at Commons, I don't have a high opinion of Russavia and am not interested in being part of a project he's leading. Nick-D (talk) 23:10, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Well, I just meant to demonstrate to you that it is incorrect to talk about exhausting the community's patience because there are actually two communities. There are thousands of users editing Misplaced Pages. Usually not more than 30 users participate in the community ban discussions. Usually the users who participate in the community ban discussions are the same users. The vast majority of the users have never taken a part in any community discussions especially in the community ban discussions. Because only 30 users or so participate in the community ban discussions, each vote matters. Russavia participates in the community ban discussions. His vote is taken into account. You do not have a high opinion of Russavia, and you are not even interested in "being part of a project he's leading". Then you probably should not care about Russavia's vote in the community ban discussions, should you? Let's say that there are a few more users like Russavia who participate in the community ban discussions. Then we could assume that somebody who is banned by the community of russavias probably was banned for doing a right thing, and certainly was not banned by the community of Misplaced Pages. Regards. 76.126.142.59 (talk) 00:30, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes, a dodgy local consensus is always a problem. I've never seen it occur in relation to a community ban though in all my years here, and hopefully it's never happened. Nick-D (talk) 10:36, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Owen Gun

Hi, Nick -

Regarding your recent comments on my edits to the Owen Gun article, I would like to make the following inquiry: supposing an editor such as myself does see a weapon credited to one military or another in a firearms museum, is there any way he can use this as a source for an article? I have provided the photograph of the exhibit in question (part of a larger display which included several submachine guns, all supposedly ex-RhSF) but apparently that wasn't enough. The image seems to have been accepted without difficulty by former RhSF veterans I remain in contact with, and the camo scheme - a uniquely Rhodesian SOP type - appears quite authentic.

Perhaps I can get a qualified individual to verify the authenticity of both picture and weapon?

--Katangais (talk) 00:24, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Did you see that exhibit yourself, and what museum is it in? (and does this museum have a reputation for historical accuracy?). I can't find anything on the internet which confirms that Rhodesian forces used the Owen Gun, and a written source would be much superior. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 00:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I've actually seen the exhibit in person - it's at the RSA National Museum of Military History at Saxonwald, Jo-burg. Their official webpage: http://www.ditsong.org.za/militaryhistory.htm.
Thanks! --Katangais (talk) 00:34, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
OK, that's a reliable source. I'd suggest citing the museum display you saw directly then rather than a photobucket image. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:30, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Any suggestions on how I could cite the exhibit directly? --Katangais (talk) 19:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Something along the lines of the name of the exhibit and the date you viewed it would do the job (eg, something like 'National Museum of Military History, Firearms gallery, as at XX Month Year). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 05:09, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Schwarzkopf

Made some changes. Take a look: Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr./archive1Ed! 16:32, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Take another look. —Ed! 00:45, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

In the rush

Hi Nick-D, I'm Sabretoothbeast, I'm apologize regarding to the photos copyright issues that you have warned me. But as an Admin, you should not use your power to block an account easily about issues that is not related to your country (even if it not irrelevant to Misplaced Pages), but i do respect your effort as an Admin to preserve the rules on this site. So, to make sure the longevity of my account i will try not to do the same mistake again. —Preceding undated comment added 18:53, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

OK, great. There is no restriction whatsoever on admins responding to issues in articles concerning countries other than their own, and there's actually a general expectation that admins will work across all articles. Nick-D (talk) 23:19, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Operation Teardrop

Hi Nick, my apologies for not noticing that the bot hadn't told you about this article's main page appearance. I don't know why it didn't and it didn't occur to me to check whether the bot had missed this part of its regular task. And further apologies for the duff image - it looked better than the alternatives but I didn't appreciate the image status problems. Thanks for an interesting article, though - I thought it would be appropriate for VE Day to have something from WW2 and the timing of the Operation fitted nicely. Regards, Bencherlite 15:38, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

No worries. It was a good choice (though I am biased!), and accidents happen. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Input request

Hello Nick-D

I am requesting input from all participants in the discussion from the recent Signpost article on sexism in Misplaced Pages for a proposal at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Football/National teams#Proposed change: consistency in article title gendering. Thank you in advance for any contributions to the discussion. Dkreisst (talk) 21:12, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi

Since I value your judgment as an administrator, perhaps you could look at this and give us your opinion? It went unnoticed, but it's a serious problem with someone putting Nazi references into articles. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 08:39, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

As your RSN thread was structured in such a way that it strongly directed uninvolved editors to conclude that the source was 'Nazi', I don't have any confidence in the results of that discussion I'm afraid. RSN threads should lay out the basic details, and seek genuinely fresh opinions. I'm unfamiliar with these source and don't speak Polish or German so I can't undertake my own assessment. As such, I'm not willing to follow up on this by sanctioning that editor. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:11, 11 May 2013 (UTC)