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| The lead for ] and our TFA blurb states:<blockquote>Although Evans had kidnapped and tortured a black man while leader of the Dallas Klan, as Imperial Wizard he publicly discouraged vigilante actions. </blockquote> This is sourced to Steel Valley Klan, page 7, which says:<blockquote>According to Congressional testimony, Evans led his Klan in the abduction of black bellhop Alex Johnson for pandering. The Klan flogged Johnson ... " It does not say that Evans personally tortured or flogged Johnson, which our article states. <p> Although not a WP:ERRORS issue, the article also says, for example:<blockquote>After Evans sold the Klan's former headquarters, it was purchased by the Catholic Church, and became the Cathedral of Christ the King.</blockquote> But our article on the Cathedral of Christ the King says that:<blockquote>Early masses were held '''in the mansion''' that occupied the land (a former headquarters of the Ku Klux Klan), but '''the house was eventually torn down to make way for the cathedral building'''.</blockquote> Emphasis mine. The text there is uncited, but the image of the cathedral shows it unlikely to have been Klan headquarters. Following up by examining the source in the article (Wade), one finds confirmation that the cathedral was built on the grounds of the former Klan site-- our text is misleading-- the Catholic church purchased the land and built a new cathedral. In fact, we've also given the impression that the Catholic church bought the Cathedral directly from the Klan, when in fact it was first sold to an insurance company and later to the Church. This is at least two instances of subtly incorrect information in this article. I am concerned about the research that went into the article and that a more thorough review be connducted, but at minimum the blurb needs to be reviewed and corrected. ] (]) 04:01, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *Main page concern addressed. Others not within purview here. ]. — ] (]) 04:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ** Thanks for the quick action on this, Crisco! I don't have more time to follow, but I hope this article will receive closer scrutiny, as there are statements that raise eyebrows and are easily checked on Google books. I'm out of time, best, and thanks again, ] (]) 04:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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The lead for Hiram Wesley Evans and our TFA blurb states:
Although Evans had kidnapped and tortured a black man while leader of the Dallas Klan, as Imperial Wizard he publicly discouraged vigilante actions.
This is sourced to Steel Valley Klan, page 7, which says:
Categories:According to Congressional testimony, Evans led his Klan in the abduction of black bellhop Alex Johnson for pandering. The Klan flogged Johnson ... " It does not say that Evans personally tortured or flogged Johnson, which our article states.
Although not a WP:ERRORS issue, the article also says, for example:
After Evans sold the Klan's former headquarters, it was purchased by the Catholic Church, and became the Cathedral of Christ the King.
But our article on the Cathedral of Christ the King says that:
Early masses were held in the mansion that occupied the land (a former headquarters of the Ku Klux Klan), but the house was eventually torn down to make way for the cathedral building.
Emphasis mine. The text there is uncited, but the image of the cathedral shows it unlikely to have been Klan headquarters. Following up by examining the source in the article (Wade), one finds confirmation that the cathedral was built on the grounds of the former Klan site-- our text is misleading-- the Catholic church purchased the land and built a new cathedral. In fact, we've also given the impression that the Catholic church bought the Cathedral directly from the Klan, when in fact it was first sold to an insurance company and later to the Church. This is at least two instances of subtly incorrect information in this article. I am concerned about the research that went into the article and that a more thorough review be connducted, but at minimum the blurb needs to be reviewed and corrected. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:01, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- Main page concern addressed. Others not within purview here. Paging Mark. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick action on this, Crisco! I don't have more time to follow, but I hope this article will receive closer scrutiny, as there are statements that raise eyebrows and are easily checked on Google books. I'm out of time, best, and thanks again, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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Canada floods
"...evacuation of thousands" of what? If it's people, then say "thousands of people". 108.57.17.8 (talk) 01:33, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
2013 North India floods
Death toll increases to 150. Source:North India Floods: Death Toll in Uttarakhand Mounts to 150 and Over 60,000 Stranded; Kedarnath Temple Still Intact Article is updated accordingly. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
- Updated per the RS you've noted, and the article. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
- The official toll appears to be 190 now. You're requested to check. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- @TheOriginalSoni: The article says 210 now. And it would he helpful for admins here if you give the source here as well. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:05, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: BBC says 500+ now. Source. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- This is why we're supposed to avoid exact numbers. Simply use 'hundreds' and then there's no problem of the number constantly changing. Modest Genius 23:19, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- I prefer using a close enough estimate than just the word "hundreds" as it tends to give a much better idea to our readers of how big or small the catastrophe has been. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:58, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Also, the official death count is now 1000 according to NYT. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:58, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Singapore haze
Currently, the item says, "smoke from slash-and-burn cultivation in Indonesia causes the worst haze ever recorded in Singapore." Shouldn't it also be mentioned that parts of Indonesia and Malaysia are affected by the haze? Judging from population data, there must be more affected people in Sumatra and southern part of West Malaysia. Singapore only generates most publicity 222.165.10.249 (talk) 06:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- I also considered asking this but I dunno if the article says that there are also record numbers in Indonesia and Malaysia. The PSI readings in Sumatra are actually worse than SG's, soaring to 500 (compared to 400 in SG) but I dunno if that's a record there. –HTD 17:27, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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