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I'm keeping well out of the way on this as I have a COI when it comes to Apple - ] <sup>]</sup> 23:24, 28 June 2013 (UTC) I'm keeping well out of the way on this as I have a COI when it comes to Apple - ] <sup>]</sup> 23:24, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:I saw the reverts on my Watchlist and noted that a large narrative was being added repeatedly to the Macintosh summary. There is a main article at ] where this could be entered if needed, but it is an overweight pointless bit of sensationalism in this section. This whole narrative actually seems more appropriate in a tabloid than an encyclopedia with soundbite quotes and someone calling other people "idiots" and whatnot. <span style="border:2px solid darkgreen;margin-top:2px;bottom:2px;font- verdana;background:lightblue" > ] ]</span> 23:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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Information about Steve Jobs car is incorrect

Steve Jobs' car, parked in the blue zone outside IL1, just behind BJ's Bar and Restaurant. This was his favorite spot.

A reference is made in the article to Steve Job's car and why it didn't have license plates.

Quote: "Jobs's car was a silver Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG, which did not display its license plates, as he took advantage of a California law which gives a maximum of six months for new vehicles to receive plates; Jobs leased a new SL every six months."

This assumption is based on an article ("Why Steve Jobs' Mercedes Never Had a License Plate") which is factually incorrect. Since Steve Jobs' car did not have a license plate, the bar code with the VIN number is clearly visible in photos. The VIN number for Steve Jobs' car is WDBSK72F67F124082. When you run this VIN number through a web service such as CARFAX, you will find that Steve Jobs was the first and only owner of this car from the date of purchase (08-08-2006) till his death in 2011. The news that Steve Jobs took advantage of a California law and would allegedly lease a new SL every six months is incorrect (this would have been impossible anyways because Mercedes changed the design of the SL 55 during the period 2006-2011).

Screenshots of the CARFAX report with details on Steve Jobs' Marcedes SL 55 AMG can be found at: http://blog.peschfamily.com/2011/08/steve-jobs.html

Raulpesch (talk) 00:14, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Not to mention the SL55 went out of production in 2008 when it was replaced by the SL63 but unfortunately all this constitutes WP:OR and WP:SYN therefore none of this can be inserted into the article. YuMaNuMa 02:34, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
I fixed the reference to point to the actual source of the information. Maybe he leased the same car, or just switched between two identical ones. Dream Focus 03:26, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Which pic? I didn't see any. New worl (talk) 06:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Look to the right and up a bit. Only one pic in this section, so that's it. Dream Focus 17:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 April 2013

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Please include the filmed interview of Steve Jobs conducted on November 14, 1994, by the Santa Clara Valley Historical Association. Please include Steve Jobs role in the PBS documentary, Silicon Valley: 100 Year Renaissance (1998). Please include Steve Jobs starring role in the film: Steve Jobs: Visionary Entrepreneur (2013). Source: www.siliconvalleyhistorical.org Thank you! Sally McBurney, Director of Films. SiliconValleyHistorical (talk) 20:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Went to the website. Claims to be nonprofit, but they keep trying to make money selling you stuff, and don't seem to be telling you much for free. So he did an interview which they took and are making money off of. He did a lot of interviews, and most you can find free online somewhere. Dream Focus 22:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Rivertorch (talk) 06:02, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 May 2013 - For the iSteve films for the film section

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  • iSteve- 2013 Film published by Funny Or Die, starring John Ross Bowie well known for his recurring appearence on CBS' The Big Bang Theory

Raspberrypi (talk) 15:21, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --ElHef (Meep?) 15:39, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Jobs also co-founded and served as chief executive of Pixar Animation Studios;

"Jobs also co-founded and served as chief executive of Pixar Animation Studios;"

Actually, Nolan Bushnell bought Pizza time Theatre from Atari as part of his leaving Tari in 1978. In 1983 Kadabrascope Computer Animation Studios was formed where animation experts formerly of Walt Disney Productions and Hanna-Barbera Productions would produce videos such as a planned Check E. Cheese cartoon. When Pizza Time Theatre had financial problems, it was sold to George Lucas in 1984 and renamed to Pixar. When George Lucas went though a divorce, he sold the company to Steve Jobs.

http://mcurrent.name/atarihistory/cec.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxxxjaxxx (talkcontribs)

Pixar has information about this. Your link doesn't mention Pixar once. Didn't Jobs rename it when he got it? When he got it, it was hardware they were selling. They didn't start making films until after he was in charge. Dream Focus 14:06, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

There is an errant comma in the lead after reference 31 ("Steve Jobs: Master of Innovation"): "master of innovation",, "the master evangelist of the digital age" 68.55.123.86 (talk) 22:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 23:52, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Personal involvement in e-book price hike conspiracy

Charges heard in court; and related info in Jobs own authorized biography."Apple conspired with major publishers to drive up the price of e-books in a scheme that cost consumers hundreds of millions of dollars, a New York court has heard."

It cited a passage from an authorised biography of Mr Jobs by Walter Isaacson, which it said proved that Apple had sought to inflate prices. “We told the publishers, ‘We’ll go to the agency model, where you set the price, and we get our 30 per cent, and yet, the customer pays a little more, but that’s what you want anyway,” the book quotes Mr Jobs as saying.. (Note: "The five publishers who were accused by the government of participating in the alleged conspiracy - MacMillan, Simons & Schuster, Hachette, HarperCollins and Penguin - have already settled, paying out a total of $164m" ; companies don't pay out 9-figure sums if the charges were not deemed to be likely to hold in court..) Suggest: short mention for now perhaps in Management Style or preceding section (since he was personally involved; longer mention in wikipedia article about Apple the company), follow the court case, and update the article later depending on outcome of the court case. Ref from today's UK Independent:

Wozniak narrative - please discuss

Hi all. Okay, there's a huge amount of back-and-forth about the Woz narrative re. Jobs' involvement with the Mac. I've protected the article for a day on the wrong version, so please discuss here now.

Apple co-founder and former Apple engineer, Steve Wozniak, has said that the Macintosh failed under Steve Jobs, and that it wasn't until Jobs left that it became a success. Jobs called the Lisa group, the team that had kicked Jobs out, idiots for making the Lisa computer too expensive. To compete with the Lisa, Jobs and his new team produced a cheaper computer, one that, according to Wozniak, was "weak", "lousy" and "still at a fairly high price". "He made it by cutting the RAM down, by forcing you to swap disks here and there", says Wozniak. He attributes the eventual success of the Macintosh to people like John Sculley "who worked to build a Macintosh market when the Apple II went away".

  1. "Steve Wozniak on Newton, Tesla, and why the original Macintosh was a 'lousy' product". Archived from the original on 2013-06-28. Retrieved 2013-06-28.

I'm keeping well out of the way on this as I have a COI when it comes to Apple - Alison 23:24, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I saw the reverts on my Watchlist and noted that a large narrative was being added repeatedly to the Macintosh summary. There is a main article at Macintosh where this could be entered if needed, but it is an overweight pointless bit of sensationalism in this section. This whole narrative actually seems more appropriate in a tabloid than an encyclopedia with soundbite quotes and someone calling other people "idiots" and whatnot. Taroaldo 23:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
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