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:'''Suggestion:''' Because ] opened with a loaded question rather than a proposal to change the MOS in any specific/concrete way, and because several discussions covering the same part of the MOS (but, in contrast to the "yield" thread, making concrete proposals for change) were started while the "yield" thread was ongoing or shortly after it closed (and because later discussions eclipse earlier ones), I humbly suggest that the "yield" thread has already been 'closed' (meaning, shut so that further contributions are not accepted) by the archive bot, and that any further 'closure' (meaning inference of a 'consensus' for a concrete change to the MOS from the discussion) is probably not possible. In particular, ''''']''''' covers substantially the same ground as the "yield" thread. To a much lesser extent, '']'' opens by questioning a different sentence but the same general section/sentiment of ], '']'' questions whether or not to keep pronouns consistent within an article, which is semi-relevant to the "yield" OP's question of whether or not to say "'she' fathered a child", '']'' rehashes the "inconsistent pronouns" discussion, and '']'' rehashes the "direct quotations" discussion. ] (]) 21:25, 25 September 2013 (UTC) :'''Suggestion:''' Because ] opened with a loaded question rather than a proposal to change the MOS in any specific/concrete way, and because several discussions covering the same part of the MOS (but, in contrast to the "yield" thread, making concrete proposals for change) were started while the "yield" thread was ongoing or shortly after it closed (and because later discussions eclipse earlier ones), I humbly suggest that the "yield" thread has already been 'closed' (meaning, shut so that further contributions are not accepted) by the archive bot, and that any further 'closure' (meaning inference of a 'consensus' for a concrete change to the MOS from the discussion) is probably not possible. In particular, ''''']''''' covers substantially the same ground as the "yield" thread. To a much lesser extent, '']'' opens by questioning a different sentence but the same general section/sentiment of ], '']'' questions whether or not to keep pronouns consistent within an article, which is semi-relevant to the "yield" OP's question of whether or not to say "'she' fathered a child", '']'' rehashes the "inconsistent pronouns" discussion, and '']'' rehashes the "direct quotations" discussion. ] (]) 21:25, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

::{{Not done}}. I totally agree. – ]\<sup><font color="gray">]</font></sup> 10:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


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This discussion was started on 27 July 2013 (UTC); requesting closure by an uninvolved editor. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:24, 18 October 2013 (UTC) This discussion was started on 27 July 2013 (UTC); requesting closure by an uninvolved editor. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:24, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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Oh dear, dare I ask. The discussion started of fairly normally, but issue upon issue upon issue has been added in and on. Many of the remarks simply deal with the conduct of individual editors. Others are getting into the merits of Austrian economics as a topic, not as an article improvement problem. The whole thing is going nowhere fast. I have tagged it as {{tl|stuck}}. Thanks. – ] (]) 06:05, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
:The thread in question is not "stuck", an active subsection of it concerns the possibility of establishing a sanctions regime and the requester here is involved in the articles that might be thus subjected. - ] (]) 14:58, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
::I'll remove the stuck tag, but the discussion simply generates heat at present. – ] (]) 15:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
::I'm going to strike my "stuck" comments on the ANI. Sitush, please "close" this thread with a resolved template. Thanks. – ] (]) 18:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
::This thread is lively and ongoing, and has clearly not reached a stable view such that it's ready for closure. {{ping|Srich32977}}, please withdraw this premature request for closure. ]] 18:07, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
:::I agree with what Specifico said as of the time he said it, but the discussion has since evolved to a consensus for applying general sanctions, so it probably is a good time for an uninvolved admin to look at it for possible closure. --] (]) 19:06, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' Discussion now archived at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::It has been un-archived. The archiving seems to have been a mistake since there was active discussion in the section. --] (]) 16:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:::{{close}} by {{admin|Bbb23}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:47, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


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    Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style

    IMHO the section headed Should we really yield to gender identity when one's biological sex is vitally important? should be closed; discussion had stopped about 2 weeks ago except for User:Gothicfilm's recent contribution. The other sections on the same or related topics are still ongoing. Chris Smowton (talk) 12:18, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

    The discussion was archived to Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Archive 145#Should we really yield to gender identity when one's biological sex is vitally important?.

    After an experienced editor assesses the consensus in the discussion, please either (i) move the discussion with your closing statement back to Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style or (ii) close the discussion in the archive and announce the result on Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:51, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

    Suggestion: Because the "should we yield?" thread opened with a loaded question rather than a proposal to change the MOS in any specific/concrete way, and because several discussions covering the same part of the MOS (but, in contrast to the "yield" thread, making concrete proposals for change) were started while the "yield" thread was ongoing or shortly after it closed (and because later discussions eclipse earlier ones), I humbly suggest that the "yield" thread has already been 'closed' (meaning, shut so that further contributions are not accepted) by the archive bot, and that any further 'closure' (meaning inference of a 'consensus' for a concrete change to the MOS from the discussion) is probably not possible. In particular, WT:MOS#Gender self-identification covers substantially the same ground as the "yield" thread. To a much lesser extent, Archive 146#Gender and direct quotations opens by questioning a different sentence but the same general section/sentiment of MOS:IDENTITY, Archive 146#Inconsistent pronouns questions whether or not to keep pronouns consistent within an article, which is semi-relevant to the "yield" OP's question of whether or not to say "'she' fathered a child", WT:MOS#RfC on pronouns throughout life rehashes the "inconsistent pronouns" discussion, and WT:MOS#Gender, direct quotations and sic rehashes the "direct quotations" discussion. -sche (talk) 21:25, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2013/September#Commas in metro areas

    A long an convoluted discussion affecting several hunderd articles. I can't see any clear consensus. Prefer admin closure please. --Stfg (talk) 10:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Joefromrandb (second close request)

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Joefromrandb (initiated 15 August 2013)? See my previous close request here.

    The close by NE Ent (talk · contribs) was contested at User talk:NE Ent/Archive/2013/September#Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Joefromrandb by the RfC initiator, Purplebackpack89 (talk · contribs); the subject, Joefromrandb (talk · contribs); and uninvolved editor Cyberpower678 (talk · contribs).

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    Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Joefromrandb

    I see you closed this earlier today. Do you intend to interpret whether there is a consensus about Joe's behavior? "Inactive" doesn't seem to be the way most RfCs are closed; most of them instead try to interpret consensus. Can we expect that in the near future? pbp 20:47, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

    I closed per the instructions at inactivity close as the state of the RFC situation seemed to fit the criteria. NE Ent
    When you close, you're supposed to provide a close statement, not "closed due to inactivity".—cyberpower Online 00:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
    Reopen it, NE Ent, and let an admin close it. Your close is only giving PbP yet another opportunity to throw his toys out of the pram. Joefromrandb (talk) 07:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

    User talk:NE Ent/Archive/2013/September#Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Joefromrandb

    There was no subsequent response from NE Ent (talk · contribs), and the discussion was archived.

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    Cunard (talk) 08:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Non-free content review

    15 NFCR sections
    1. WP:NFCR#Fællesrådet for Danmarks Drengespejdere
    2. WP:NFCR#File:Stbold.jpg
    3. WP:NFCR#To Tell the Truth
    4. WP:NFCR#Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes infobox screenshots
    5. WP:NFCR#Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly
    6. WP:NFCR#File:RAK Records label.JPG
    7. WP:NFCR#File:Miami Dolphins 2013 Logo.svg
    8. WP:NFCR#File:Brahmanaidu Statue destruction 2011 Million March Telangana.jpg
    9. WP:NFCR#Promo magazine ads for TV episodes
    10. WP:NFCR#File:Colbert Dinner.JPG
    11. WP:NFCR#File:NewCBBlogo.png
    12. WP:NFCR#File:Alagoas.jpg
    13. WP:NFCR#File:South Dublin County Council Crest.png
    14. WP:NFCR#One Deep Breath
    15. WP:NFCR#Images at Alice (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland)

    A Misplaced Pages:Non-free content review that needs closed. Werieth (talk) 19:06, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

    Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#RfC_on_pronouns_throughout_life

    This RFC, triggered by the Manning controversy, has now been running for 1 month and is not receiving any new comments. Because of its sensitivity, I suggest that it is given a similar level of care to the Manning controversy itself. – Smyth\ 09:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#MOS:IDENTITY RFC: Should the text "When there is no dispute..." be deleted, kept or changed?

    This RfC was started on September 6h. The tag for this RfC seems to have been deleted. Can an admin please close? Thanks. GabrielF (talk) 05:58, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (people)#(entertainer)

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (people)#entertainer (initiated 31 August 2013)? The RfC was originally listed at Misplaced Pages talk:Disambiguation#(entertainer) before being moved to Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (people)#entertainer. The questions posed were:

    1) should we continue to encourage/allow the use of "(entertainer)" as a disambiguator in entertainment-related articles, and 2) if so, under what circumstances.

    Cunard (talk) 09:43, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#RfC:"Should organisations be included in templates such as Islamophobia, Racism and anti-Semitism"

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#RfC:"Should organisations be included in templates such as Islamophobia, Racism and anti-Semitism" (initiated 8 October 2013)? The discussion is listed at Template:Centralized discussion. The opening poster wrote:

    This stems from a discussion at WP:NPOVN#Branding individuals as bigots via Templates - relevant discussions are also at WP:NPOVN#Politically Incorrect (blog) and Template talk:Islamophobia. The templates being discussed are Template:Islamophobia, Template:Racism topics and Template:Antisemitism. Dougweller (talk) 16:12, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

    Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:43, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

    Comment Discussion now archived at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)/Archive 110#RfC:"Should organisations be included in templates such as Islamophobia, Racism and anti-Semitism". Armbrust 08:44, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

    Talk:Main Page#Main page redesign

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Main Page#Main page redesign (initiated 14 September 2013)? The discussion is listed at Template:Centralized discussion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:43, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

    WT:MOSNUM#Imperial measurements

    Would be grateful for someone with a measure of common sense to close this interminable discussion about the use of imperial units on wikipedia, which stems from the thorny question of whether in a few limited circumstances you should put miles before kilometres. I would also suggest a large dose of WP:TROUT all round, a suggestion that reprising this discussion on a monthly basis stops and perhaps a WP:RFCU as suggested at Talk:United Kingdom#Units dispute. Facepalm I really can't believe what people argue over . Wee Curry Monster talk 11:27, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Non-free content review#File:Badge of 723 Communication Squadron.jpg

    This non-free content review needs an experienced closer. Discussion commenced on 27 June and there's been no new comments added since 19 August. Warning: Lotsa plenty of reading here. Thanks, -- Diannaa (talk) 23:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 July 27#Category:Chefs by location

    This discussion was started on 27 July 2013 (UTC); requesting closure by an uninvolved editor. Northamerica1000 16:24, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

    Talk:Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars#Merge

    It seems that the content of this article has already been presented within Serbia_in_the_Balkan_Wars#Massacres. Still, this is controversial case which needs to be closed by administrator who is not involved.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

    Talk:Mario Kart#Collapse or uncollapse characters table?

    You can close it either right now or on 26 October 2013. Your choice. George Ho (talk) 19:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

    Please relist or close WP:AfD/United States Capitol shooting incident (2013)

    Article has been open for more than one week without relisting nor closure. --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

    Talk:List_of_unusual_deaths#RfC:_What_qualifies.3F

    The discussion was closed by a non admin who is well known for holding views decidedly outside of the mainstream Misplaced Pages community, with a conclusion that I do not think accurately reflects the discussion and policies presented. I would request a non involved Admin review. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:18, 24 October 2013 (UTC)