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Hi Inayity, First for all thank you for actually editing Serer creation myth and Ndut initiation rite. I really value the views of editors who actually go through articles and edit them rather than just placing tags. So thanks for that. The more editors especially on African related articles (one of the most under represented) the better.

That said I have two issues I would like to bring to your attention. The first one is the Sundiata Keita article (also see talk page) under Religion section. I believe you split them up from my original edit which was linked to "the Battle of Kirina". That linkage was due to the claim advanced by certain scholars like Niane who tried to link the too. However, if you feel they can be separated no problem, but I think the first sentence under religion needs to be reworded, because it is trying to continue from previous section. Some rephrasing may be necessary, so I'll leave that with you. I have also removed the unsourced content regarding : Islam would go on to become the dominant religion of the region. I think that should go under Mali Empire (or even Mansa Musa if you want who was def a Muslim) if anything not under Sundiata.

My second and last point partains to the concern you have raised to this administrator regarding undue weight of Serer related articles on African articles. As the one who authored some (not all) Serer related articles, can you please point me to these articles you take issue with? I think the admin in question also asked you a similar question. If you prefer you can answer on his talk page (or here) and I will respond here. Just one point, I think the computer server/language is also spelt Serer. Sometimes I do get that as well. Have a look at Serer people for different variations in spelling. I prefer Sereer or Seereer or even the the French spelling Sérère. Indeed many sources about these people are in French not English (Serer). Many English sources about these comes from French sources. Thanks. Tamsier (talk) 16:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

As explained to the admin I have not come across Serer in the abundance or frequency seen since jumping from article to article. One some pages it has double hatnotes, (see also). I searched Amazon (nothing), but as you stated I realized (after asking the admin) that it was French Spelling thing. I have no problem with the deletion of "dominant religion". I took issue with the one source, but have seen other article like Du Bois heavily dependent on one source, so clearly not an issue. But more diverse sources the better.--Inayity (talk) 18:13, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Meles Zenawi

Hi Inayity,

You made the following edit to the lede of the Meles Zenawi article. I was just wondering if you would agree that it is redundant with information already in there, and revert it? Here's what I mean: you added "curbing freedom of press" citing the ref to Blow to press freedom as Ethiopia convicts 24 of plotting rebellion The Guardian on the opposition and journalist arrests. Which is perfectly fine, by the way, however, the line already contains the following: "as well as anti-dissent." (Citations follow, removed here for brevity). To me, it would seem that curbing freedom of press falls under the anti-dissent aspect. So now we're basically saying the same thing twice. What I might suggest is leaving it as "anti-dissent" (which is broader than just freedom of the press), and add the guardian article as a third reference to that sentence. Unfortunately, due to a personal conflict, it would not be appropriate for me to make that edit, hence why I'm asking you to do it. Let me know if you have any questions.⇒SWATJester 10:00, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Saw your edits to the Muhammed Bello article that I had worked on and they were good. I also did the editing yesterday on his brother Abu Bakr Atiku. If you have any comments on that page, they would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for the edits! AbstractIllusions (talk) 02:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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i suggest you not enter into discussions with baseless arguments as you did on spi case & it doesnt matter how many years of experience you have on wikipedia or how long you have been tracking a user..the point is my edits have been stalked by these two individuals on various articles & how did my case become weak? when the sock and sock master is blocked for his behavior? Baboon43 (talk) 22:03, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I was referring to including Midexpress as part of the conspiracy, it is clear the other guy was guilty. --Inayity (talk) 08:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Input

Hi Inayity. As one of the more active and knowledgeable contributors on the Horn of Africa articles, I was wondering if perhaps you wouldn't mind taking a look at the Somalis in the United Kingdom article? An editor has added some material related to race that has been a bone of contention. Specifics can be found here. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I would have a look, looks well heavy. I def have first hand experiences with this, while i do not have any specialist credentials around this specific Somali issue to add content. Will peep and give a note. But there is a complex identity clash, but then again so is the clash between Caribbean ppl and Nigerians ppl in the UK.--Inayity (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Assistance requested for an RfC/U

Hi,

I would like to request your assistance with drafting an WP:RfC/U, at

Thanks!

-- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 22:23, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks good, i read it, I am not experienced at filing these things, but If you publish it at the RfC, I will make comments and support some sort of action. But note they have ceased contributing to the article content, so maybe it will blow over. I think we might be seeing the last of her disruptions. --Inayity (talk) 22:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Agenda?

You claimed that I have agenda? I have none. Btw-do you know how are Bulgarians in UK privileged compared to Japanese? I am looking for that information or possible studies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Questionentity (talk • contribs) 12:43, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

If you were me would you not be suspicious?. Please see the talk page, sure I would like to know also, but that tiny need to find out about a non-English country in Europe does not mean the article fails World representation,.--Inayity (talk) 13:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Tiny? Most European countries don't use English as their primary language. Ukraine has around 45 million citizens, Romania around 21 million, Poland 38 million, Czech Republic 10 million, Serbia 10 million and so on and on. In fact majority of white people aren't English dear Inayity.--Questionentity (talk) 13:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

"Just give them a source"

an RfC you contributed to drafting has been posted

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that the RfC/U you assisted with drafting has been posted here. -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 09:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Moors (moved to correct place by me)

Inayity, are you teaching me by way of trial and error? Or do you have a issue with the acuracy of information from U.S DEPARTMENT OF STATES activities in Morocco? Do you have a issue with historic docmentation from the Avalon Project? Do you have a issue with acurate history being shared? Why are you violating certain terms and conditions here on Misplaced Pages? Actualfactz (talk) 15:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

New editor please spend time reading the rules of wiki, also test your edits out on a sandbox and not mess up entire articles with drivel. --Inayity (talk) 17:39, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Restore discussion for article on Amadu Amadu

An article that you have been involved in editing, Amadu Amadu, has been moved twice since 15 February 2013 (to "Seku Amadu III" & "Amadu III of Masina"). A proposal has been made to move the article back to its original title. If you are interested in this discussion, please participate by going to the discussion page here, and adding your comments. Thank you.--A12n (talk) 03:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Honestly cannot offer an opinion either way. I prefer what ever is more authentic to the African story. I know him as Aḥmad ibn Lobbo and all these names actually confuses me because i am saying who was who again?--Inayity (talk) 10:17, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Religion and Culture in Africa

You can refer to the book Oxford Handbook of Global Religion. In Chapter 52, Traditional African Religious Society the chapter start with: African traditional religion is inextricably linked to the culture of the African people. In Africa religion has been understood as an integral part of life in which every aspect was knit together into a coherent system of thought and action, giving significance and meaning and providing abiding and satisfying values. Religion, culture, politics, and society were part of a seamless whole and no part of it could stand on its own.DrLewisphd (talk) 12:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I didnt have that problem, the problem was the sentence (grammar) which was not 100% clear. it could have been read another way. see my edit notes --Inayity (talk) 12:54, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks, for this edit . I did not look back far enough to see that there was a summary version of the article prior to the vandalized version. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

It will be vandalized some more got keep an eye on it, or lock it. He was either really loved or really hated. --Inayity (talk) 20:49, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Dubious

Thanks for all of the constant watch on the Slavery in Africa page. About the recent dubious tag, what part of the claim do you find dubious. I'll try to resolve it to your satisfaction, but just wondered what you think needs more heft. Thanks. (watching here, so will respond in this thread) AbstractIllusions (talk) 19:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

A lot of this claim rest of the definition of chattel slavery. Which in itself is problematic. But also i have never seen such a claim before. And it is a pretty strong statement, which is very specific. One problem is it uses Sub-Saharan Africa as a barrier. This was not a historical barrier for African cultures movement. Is Ethiopia not in "Sub-Saharan' Africa, certainly Chattel slavery was there pre-Islam, and even probably pre-Christianity. There is far too much dubiousness in it. and i have looked around and cannot find any support from scholars on this point. and it is a pretty major statement to make. --Inayity (talk) 19:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I think there is a misunderstanding of what the claim is that is being made. The claim is: "there is little evidence of widespread chattel slavery being practiced in sub-Saharan Africa prior to the expansion of Islamic legal systems." The claim is not: there was no chattel slavery in sub-Saharan Africa. What the source says is: that we don't know about how chattel slavery (if it existed) in West and Central Africa operated prior to Islamic legal systems that created a legal order and (more importantly) historical evidence for scholars to say what chattel slavery was like in large parts of Africa. North Africa, the Nile Valley and some exceptions (like parts of East Africa) where historical evidence is slightly better than West, Central, and South Africa. The claim that chattel slavery didn't exist is certainly dubious, the claim that we have poor evidence to fully assess it seems much less so. I'm pretty sure that is supported in Volume II of Cambridge Slavery companion, but also is made in Miers and Kopytof, Fage, Lovejoy, the source mentioned (Alexander), Rodney (at the extreme), and a number of other sources. Either way, I reworded it to make the claim more precise, as always feel free to further fix it. AbstractIllusions (talk) 20:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

The rewording is a lot better. Because slavery was so varied. And it is only with the coming of Islam that a "history" of much of the region is actually revealed. --Inayity (talk) 22:08, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Excellent use of the quotation marks: "history" indeed. AbstractIllusions (talk) 00:37, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

History of slavery

Hi Inayity, please see Talk Page. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 16:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps of interest

Now that it's more or less over (I think) it seems unlikely that I will be accused of WP:CAN for mentioning that an ArbCom case involving Apostle12 just wrapped up (again, sorta). As I recall, you contributed to drafting the ill-fated RfC/U, so I thought you may be interested to know this. WP:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race_and_politics. -- # _ 04:34, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks--Inayity (talk) 09:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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ICC

Hi Inayity, first of all a general thanks for your commitment to improve the ICC article. But, please, there is a purpose in using templates, namely to have to edit only once when a factual change has consequences for a couple of articles. Therefore, it is not really sensible to copy the text of a template into the article's body because then editing the template does not any longer affect the article in question. So, in the future, please edit the template. The template for the "ICC member states" template, for example, can be found and edited under Template:ICC_member_states. For any further questions, just ask ... Best regards. --EBB (talk) 16:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed obvious error. --EBB (talk) 16:53, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

• Inayity, Hi. Do you know what is up with the International Criminal Court article and why we cannot edit it? I posted my comments on the TalkPage there and came here but am still uncertain as to what is going on and why... Regards... Steve Stevenmitchell (talk) 04:26, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

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LGBT

Hi! About this edit it has to do with the premise of the book. One of the book's main premises has to do with LGBT. I wouldn't add that to Malcolm X's article himself, but it has everything to do with the book in question. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:13, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

reply on talk page.--Inayity (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I did bring a "rationale" that you just ignored

it went beyond just you don't own...but if you bothered to read the whole thing, you would have seen...I said...

Of course it has a relation. They're both continental "centrisms". How is that totally irrelevant? It's not like I put "Germans in the Civil War" or something, that has nothing to do with anything, out of left field. But this here is a continental or regional "centrist" view article. Obviously there's relation. So I will not put up with front excuses that are not really valid, to cover your real reason for removing, which obviously is you just "don't like".

I mean, how exactly is there "no relation"?

There's Eurocentrism, Afrocentrism, and Asiocentrism. (Yes, such a thing does exist.)

You never bothered to address any of that, but simply edit-warred again, with nonsense excuses of your own, reverted, and removed the comment from your page. I'm done trying to reason with you, as you proved (I kinda knew it from the beginning actually) that you simply can't be reasoned with. There doesn't seem to be much of a point. You have uptight over-scrupulous NON-Misplaced Pages ideas and notions here.

Or look up what "See also" articles are allowed to be. They don't have to always 100% "directly related" to the main article, in the sense you're thinking. They can have some relation or commonality. It's whatever. I don't have time or patience for uptight nonsense or bullying disrespectful dishonest junk. Regards. Gabby Merger (talk) 08:14, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Use the talk page for your concerns, not my talk page. That is where others will engage and resolve this issue.--Inayity (talk) 08:16, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk response

hello....I responded to your comments on the Asiocentrism talk page. Please take a look here. Thank you. Gabby Merger (talk) 18:54, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Reported

i mentioned you here, may go there to defend yourself. thank you--22 Male Cali (talk) 18:14, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

No need to defend myself, seems it has blown back in your face. Also it can be traced. Re: User:Brinkidiom--Inayity (talk) 19:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Matthew Bryden

Hi Inayity. Per appropriate notification, there's a discussion here concerning the Matthew Bryden page (the Horn of Africa political analyst) that you as one of the main contributors to the Ethiopia & Horn-related articles are invited to join. Please also see this. Best regards Middayexpress (talk) 13:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)