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| :::'''However''', there's a WikiPolicy that people have to accept what anonymous editors say they are, sex or gender wise. Nor is there a law (except perhaps the one that probably will be repealed by voter referendum in California.) We can still use ''our own personal criteria'' of who we consider what sex or gender, as far as I know on Misplaced Pages and in the larger world. Please notify me when that Wiki policy or DC or national law has been passed. Meanwhile, don't harass me with what looks to me like ''double standard'' political correctness. '''] ''' 15:43, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br> | :::'''However''', there's a WikiPolicy that people have to accept what anonymous editors say they are, sex or gender wise. Nor is there a law (except perhaps the one that probably will be repealed by voter referendum in California.) We can still use ''our own personal criteria'' of who we consider what sex or gender, as far as I know on Misplaced Pages and in the larger world. Please notify me when that Wiki policy or DC or national law has been passed. Meanwhile, don't harass me with what looks to me like ''double standard'' political correctness. '''] ''' 15:43, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br> | ||
| ::::The diff to your attack at ANI is directly below the warning template above. The diff to proof that you were aware of the issue and of User:Steeletrap's gender is here: User Srich also follows the Hoppe page and other talk pages in which Steeletrap has discussed her gender and sensitivity, so we may reasonably infer that he he knew that when he wrote his surprising denial above. ]] 16:08, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | ::::The diff to your attack at ANI is directly below the warning template above. The diff to proof that you were aware of the issue and of User:Steeletrap's gender is here: User Srich also follows the Hoppe page and other talk pages in which Steeletrap has discussed her gender and sensitivity, so we may reasonably infer that he he knew that when he wrote his surprising denial above. ]] 16:08, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | ||
| :::::That's a link to a section, not a diff. I assume you refer to my ''legitimate'' comment about perceived pro-LGBT bias and ''your false accusation'' that I said something entirely different denigrating other classes of people. Bring it to ANI, but don't post here any more on this topic. It's just harassment, which I have had to bring you to ANI about before. '''] ''' 16:15, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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ANI
Srich is correct in their latest comment at ANI. There seems to be a tendency for you and Steeletrap to drift way off topic. I realise that it might be frustrating whens someone brings up something that happened 2.5 years ago but it is unlikely to affect any outcome now or to attract any administrative action. One reply in rebuttal would probably have sufficed. Similarly, Steeletrap is flogging a dead horse in raising the matter. I'm hoping that Steeletrap sees this because I'm becoming very confused regarding which talk pages I am recently been banned from and so dare not write there! As an aside, I am slightly alarmed that you seem to have been a political activist - you are going to have to be careful how you edit.
I have not intention of getting into a discussion about this note: take it or leave it. I'd also suggest that you don't get sucked into continuing such a discussion here or on, say, Steeltrap's talk page - it will just piss people off. - Sitush (talk) 05:51, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't expect you to reply and will archive this soon. But for the record: my second reply made the point that I had successfully brought him to ANI before for harassment, which is all he was engaging in, bringing up edits from the 2006-2007 period. Note such behavior at an ANI could lead to sanctions for that editor. Steeletrap is banned here and hopefully will remember without my having to remind him again. Just avoid his talk page and you'll be a happier individual. There are many political activists and advocates on WP; some make it their main activism outlet. I actually haven't been active as far as organizing since 2007 since I got fed up with the sexism in peace groups; barely any libertarian activism except opining on message boards, blogs, etc. for almost 10 years. What matters is, is the editing disruptive and against policy, which I don't think mine is. If you do, take me to a noticeboard. User:Carolmooredc 14:00, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.
Your repeated references to @Steeletrap: with the masculine pronoun constitute a personal attack and are unacceptable on Misplaced Pages. You are well aware from past discussions that Steeletrap is a woman. Moreover, as I believe that she has stated to you her particular sensitivity to being denigrated for her transgender status. I have long been concerned about gender bias within libertarian community and I must also tell you that I and thousands of others within the movement consider any misogynist or anti-transgender slur to be personally offensive. Please strike your references to Steeletrap in the masculine gender and replace with the feminine forms. SPECIFICO talk 15:11, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Carolmooredc, I suggest you ignore this nonsense. Steeletrap posted the specific gender identification yesterday . Until then it was a transgender userbox, which could be male→female or female→male. But I am amazed that the use of a pronoun becomes a basis for an NPA complaint? The "he" could not have been a typo from omitting the "s"? A little AGF would be in order rather than extending a "concern about gender bias" in a community to the actions of a particular WP editor. – S. Rich (talk) 15:23, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- There have been several discussions among Carol, Srich and Steeletrap about the latters transgender status and carolmooredc's denigration of this. The infobox has nothing to do with this. Srich, please explain how a "typo" occurs several times and in one short paragraph -- and how would that apply to "his" for "her" ? SPECIFICO talk 15:28, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- As usual SPECIFICO makes false charges without diffs. (A whole Rfc/User could be done on that.)
- This is the same SPECIFICO who here was so insensitive to my concerns about Sexism in April. Actually, sexism tends to be tolerated on Misplaced Pages, as we Wikiwomen have discussed in multiple forums.
- Why Specifico is suddenly so sensitive to alleged dissing of someone who has only hinted at their transgender identify as an M-t-F until, user SRich helpfully pointed out, Yesterday , I can't imagine. (Steeletrap's comments supporting Misplaced Pages downplaying Bill Clinton's sexual attacks on women as a mere public image problem by their proclaiming being a proud woman could mean they are a proud female now who intends to be a proud male later, or vice versa.) Now that I know what they allege they are, I'll be careful in my use of pronouns for them.
- However, there's a WikiPolicy that people have to accept what anonymous editors say they are, sex or gender wise. Nor is there a law (except perhaps the one that probably will be repealed by voter referendum in California.) We can still use our own personal criteria of who we consider what sex or gender, as far as I know on Misplaced Pages and in the larger world. Please notify me when that Wiki policy or DC or national law has been passed. Meanwhile, don't harass me with what looks to me like double standard political correctness. User:Carolmooredc 15:43, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- The diff to your attack at ANI is directly below the warning template above. The diff to proof that you were aware of the issue and of User:Steeletrap's gender is here: User Srich also follows the Hoppe page and other talk pages in which Steeletrap has discussed her gender and sensitivity, so we may reasonably infer that he he knew that when he wrote his surprising denial above. SPECIFICO talk 16:08, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- That's a link to a section, not a diff. I assume you refer to my legitimate comment about perceived pro-LGBT bias and your false accusation that I said something entirely different denigrating other classes of people. Bring it to ANI, but don't post here any more on this topic. It's just harassment, which I have had to bring you to ANI about before. User:Carolmooredc 16:15, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- The diff to your attack at ANI is directly below the warning template above. The diff to proof that you were aware of the issue and of User:Steeletrap's gender is here: User Srich also follows the Hoppe page and other talk pages in which Steeletrap has discussed her gender and sensitivity, so we may reasonably infer that he he knew that when he wrote his surprising denial above. SPECIFICO talk 16:08, 31 October 2013 (UTC)