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Did you actually read my message here? Please reply. I repeat: user:Vcorani is for you to tell us about yourself. User talk:Vcorani is for messages between you and other editors. You will now find stuff that violated these conventions in User:Vcorani/sandbox. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:35, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
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Going wrong
Before you try again, have a look at WP:PRIMER, and read WP:CORP on corporate notability, and WP:RS about the sort of reliable independent sources you need to prove it. Being true doesn't count, being big doesn't count. I deleted an article about a big company whose products were used by millions of people every day. But no-one outside the backroom purchasing departments (and the Infernal Revenue) had heard of them. Why? They made own brand goods for supermarkets. Nothing bore their own name, no-one had written about them - they didn't get an article here. Fair? Maybe not. We have to rely on referencing and verifiability. Not from someone saying "I know them - I worked there for 40 years.". Has to be stuff that can be accessed now and later. If you try again, do it at User:Vcorani/draft (or something like that), don't copy outside stuff, put references in - and ask for an opinion. (If it's a copyvio or sounds like advertising, you'll get an opinion before you ask...) Most admins and regular editors are willing to give an opinion - just put {{helpme}} on your talkpage with a link to the draft to be looked at and a request for opinion. The people that answer those helpme appeals are helpful and friendly - and honest. (Well, they are when they're here. You never know who goes burgling in their spare time...) Good luck, and enjoy editing here. Don't get put off be setbacks - learn from them. Peridon (talk) 19:49, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- I would add a few points to that. Re the top of this page: we do not call other Wikipedians morons and, as I have told you before, we do not shout. I recognised Renold plc as a notable company but I allowed your submission to be deleted because it was utterly slovenly. You have been editing here for three years, you should know by now what is needed for a Misplaced Pages article. You simply insult Misplaced Pages by submitting three stubby sentences. If you actually bother to create a proper article, it will probably stick. But as Peridon says, draft it in a user page. I will be happy to vet it before publication. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:11, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please learn how to spell and. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:15, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- the article was just a starting point for quick reference, not a whole book! I was going to add a little more after today but whats the point when wikipedia deals in only half story information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcorani (talk • contribs)
- Please sign with four ~ things. That's the point about working in userspace first - it gives you time. The only real restrictions there are no attacks, no copyright violations, and no spam. The main article space is, in theory at least, for articles able to stand on their own two feet (or eight wheels as the case may be). A 'stub' should tell enough about the subject to show it is significant, and be referenced to prove it. A userspace draft only needs to meet these criteria when it's about to be launched into article space. Believe me, we're not trying to stop you editing. We're trying to help you get it right - with less hassle. We don't expect a whole book. We do expect at least a stub. If you went to a car showroom, and found three of their cars jacked up and bits all over the floor, what would you think of them? Here, we expect a car that's capable of running (even if it's only a SmartCar), with some fuel in the tank and the battery charged. Peridon (talk) 21:45, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- I suppose putting 'undercon' would help as i never envisaged 'everything' was finalised on them, but at least their was some info. — VC 22:39, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- ps- and to use your peridon car analogy, what would people think of a car showroom when theres nothing in it, which is what you got when my articles were deleted - for brief they were, but at least site site visitors had something to read + a link ! — VC 23:09, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- Why is it so difficult for you to get the concept of a userspace draft? You created a massive one about Lost. A userspace draft does not need any 'undercon' tag. I have restored your sub-stub to User:Vcorani/Renold plc. Now take it from there and, as I said before, ask Peridon or me or any experienced editor before you publish it. And, we repeat, please learn to sign comments properly with ~~~~ — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- This userspace draft I didnt know of, so didnt know I could use it, tho I will - but what does one type in to create it? — VC 15:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Didn't know you could use it?! What is User:Vcorani/sandbox that you have been editing if it is not a userspace page? "What does one type in to create it?" One does not type anything in. One simply follows the link I have already given you: User:Vcorani/Renold plc and then hits the "Edit" tab! Do you understand now? Also, do you understand that you should sign comments with ~~~~? Please reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:29, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- oh i see, i thought that was just for try-outs to see what something looks like if it were published.
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IMDB
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Renold plc
Please see User talk:RHaworth#Renold plc. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Vortigern
A common mistake made by inexperienced users (which I made when I was new) is what we call 'original research', adding material to an article which isn't directly backed by a reliable source. See WP:NOR for a description of original research, WP:VERIFY for an explanation of our policy on verification, and WP:RS, a guideline for sources. I reverted your edit because it was original research. I've also noted that you are adding bare urls to articles. Please don't do this. We use 'inline citations' and all good articles will have these. Usually these can be seen in the form of clickable numbers which take you to the reference at the bottom of the article. WP:CITE tells you how to do this, but if you click on the edit window, at its top you will see a menu bar. Click on that and on the left you will see some templates you can use to automate the process. Note that for books you need to include page numbers and to do that you have to click on 'show/hide extra fields'. I hope this is useful. 81.109.118.115 (talk) 05:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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Daimler Motor Company edit
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- Civility goes both ways - VC 23:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Vandalism
This edit removed 7k bytes of valid material. I call that vandalism - what do you call it? How many more years before you learn to sign with ~~~~? Please answer both questions. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:29, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, i just got back, an noticed the edit you speak of, an can only say someone else must have done it by using my a/c, or via some other way, as i woundnt do what happened. VC 23:34, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
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Please do not add or change content, as you did to Quran, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Time to read WP:RS again NeilN 03:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- YES BUT THE SOURCES ARE ON YOUTUBE, WHICH IS WHY I INCLUDED A SEARCH LINK TO LIST THE SOURCES !
VC 14:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- As NeilN says, YouTube is hardly ever a reliable source and search results are simply unacceptable. Dougweller (talk) 15:40, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Edit to The Road (2009 film)
This was completely unsourced and apparentlly original research. Please read that link and WP:VERIFY. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 10:32, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
REPLY... you wrongly changed the add-on I did to the road film page, as it couldn't be 'completely unsourced' as the film itself was the source! + it had no 'apparentlly original research' as the info came from other Misplaced Pages pages which I just linked to as technical references for viewers. an you spelt apparently with 2 L's when it has 1. VC 14:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- You added an analysis section which is your own thoughts (original research). --NeilN 14:31, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- And I didn't edit the page, see . What you added was against our policy at WP:NOR. Dougweller (talk) 14:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Please read this
After checking over your other edits, reading your user and talk page, and taking into consideration you've been editing for years, it seems, rather than not understanding it, you don't care about our policy of no original research. Please start caring. This is one of our fundamental policies which keeps our articles from degenerating into a mass of speculations and pet theories. The next time you insert original research, synthesis, or poorly sourced info (Youtube searches and videos by " fightIslamicCensore3" are light years away from being reliable) I will ask administrators at WP:ANI to look over your user page and edits and decide if you really belong at Misplaced Pages. --NeilN 13:26, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- YES BUT THE SOURCES ARE ON YOUTUBE, WHICH IS WHY I INCLUDED A SEARCH LINK TO LIST THE SOURCES !
VC 14:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- Youtube sources are generally not acceptable. Secondly, you must provide a link to the exact source and not make the reader weed through search results. --NeilN 14:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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- I don't think this is the place for many people but its all there is so we're stuck with Misplaced Pages :(
AND!
Please spell simple words properly, I found an instead of and at least 30 times on your user page, and I dread to think how many times I would find it on your talk page! Poor spelling is unnecessary and shows ignorance! MattSucci (talk) 18:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- That's because you're too ignorant to realize that people drop the 'd' from 'and' when speaking in the modern world, like they did when 'thee' went to 'the' - its called evolution an you cant stop it.
Staff?
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- you're all staff to me - an some probably have wear swastika armband. :)
Referencing
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- And you still haven't managed to add a reference correctly. Competence is required to edit Misplaced Pages. --NeilN 15:24, 13 November 2013 (UTC)