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Welcome to my talk page. If you've come to complain, whine, moan, question my judgment, my intelligence, my sanity, or tell me off in any way, that's fine. I'm a big girl who can take it. If you've come to chat, compliment me, have a laugh, or discuss articles that's even better.

User talk:JaysCyYoung

He removed warnings which is vandalizm. Ardenn 00:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't talk bollocks! And stop playing games. look at your own behaviour here. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 00:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

This talk page is becoming very long. Please consider archiving. Ardenn 00:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

OK 00:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I left a message on his talk page about meat puppetry, and he attacks me. I did nothing wrong but point out the policy on Meat Puppetry. Ardenn 01:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

He also vandalized the Queen's U talk page. Ardenn 01:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

And you need to stop being so lenient. Ardenn 05:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I've been pretty lenient with you so far. You are the agressor here, you would be the one who would get blocked for disruption. I prefer a lenient approach because i hope you will calm down and simply stop trying to bully him. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 05:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

We'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't think I'm being agressive at all. He's the one who insults me, and violates policy by removing warning tags from his talk page, and insulting me. His pal was warned today by a sysop against personal attacks. However, I'll try to mellow down on the tags and "agressiveness" if you'll start condoning the attacks. Ardenn 05:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear you are going to mellow down. Thank you. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 05:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear you are going to enforce no personal attacks. Thank you. Ardenn 05:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Accusing people of meatpuppeting when they have clearly not done so is a personal attack itself. That is why i said that you were the agressor here. If i were to block anyone for personal attacks it would have to be you :-( I'd rather just draw a line under this though and let the matter rest there. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 05:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Except I have evidence. I won't regurgitate it because it won't accomplish anything. However, pointing out that policy, is not a personal attack. Would you rather I simply report it on WP:AN/I and not say anything? Ardenn 05:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I've already seen your "evidence". It's nothing. I need to go to work now IRL I'll speak to you later. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 05:59, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

At least one of the alleged meatpuppets, as you likely know, is a longtime contributor; indeed, his editing predates that of Ardenn by nearly nine months. Joe 06:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

This is just a quick notice to thank you for freezing edit of my page. This is said with no trace of sarcasm and I am genuinely thankful that you prevented further vandalism of it. The thing that upsets me, and I'm not trying to be disruptive (as I am a long-time contributor on Misplaced Pages), is that the user Ardenn is merely removing information from the Queen's University page without group discussion or consensus. He also ignored three sources or citations that I had provided to validate the veracity and notability of the information that myself and others had written on the page. It seems that he/she may be an administrator and, seeing as you appear to be one Theresa, I would like to express my disappointment at the behaviour of an individual in charge acting in such a manner.

Is there anything that I can do in order to reach an agreement? I have tried to be civil and, while I am upset at the changes Ardenn has made, his one-liners and refusal to co-operate (or even ENGAGE in any meaningful and productive discussion) have merely further incensed myself. Please help if you can. It feels like I have tried everything but I'm not sure why he/she is acting in this manner. Thank you very much once again!

Warmest regards, Jameson.

JaysCyYoung 00:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Citations and plenty of them. I'd be very surprised if he were an admin let me look into that. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 00:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

No he is not an admin. my advice to you is 1) take a break. The article will still be there tomorrow or next week or next month even, Edit it then. 2) Never edit when upset and 3) go through our formal disput resolution methods if all else fails. A Misplaced Pages:request for comments will generate a wider community view on the matter. BTW I have to unprotect you talk page in the morning so that people can talk to you. If i forget please remind me.Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 00:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Sexual harassment article

Thanks for your help. Aine63 and his/her sockpuppets have reverted three times in the past couple of hours, prior to your intervention. You might want to take some action about this if you haven't already. I'll also put a note on the notice board in case you don't want to get involved with blocks. I am unwilling to block this user myself, as I feel I have too much of a conflict of interest. Metamagician3000 02:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking that there was already a breach of 3RR, but technically it will take another revert by Aine63 before that happens. Metamagician3000 02:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

There is a lot more to this than Meta is telling you. I myself have put in a notice to the admins about the deletions in the article today. I'll be surprised if this situation is viewed as a simple 3rr considering Meta's history at Misplaced Pages. He has been vandalising the Sexual harassment article for months, continually deleting and rewriting useful information--all of it factual and backed up with references--and trying to rewrite the article to fit his own personal point of view. When called on his behavior and informed of the rules regarding vandalism, he scoffed, and resorted to personal attacks. I've reported him several times. Contributions to the page are welcome (I've been an active contributor to this and other articles for over a year now) but not at the expense of the contributions of others if they contain factual information or are backed up with references.

BTW: I've never intentionally tried to use a "sockpuppet" revert. I don't always log in when I edit, but there has never been any hidden motive in doing that. Frankly, I didn't even know about a 3rr and that this was a way to get around it. Aine63 03:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm prepared to believe that this person is naive rather than malicious, but you can see the difficulty. There has been a fourth revert, btw. Metamagician3000 04:46, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Interesting Meta since you seem to always have been only malicious from the beginning.

Teresa, the references have not been removed, they remain. Aine63 05:04, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

No they don't look further down the page, you removed two. Also you failed to provide references for your text. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 05:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, Theresa. Meta added some different citations so that matter is now closed. I feel I must let you know that the deleted information, the one that is still in need of citations, is NOT my information. This was added by someone else many, many weeks ago. (I reverted it because of Meta's habit of deleting info he simply doesn't like, even if it is factual and/or backed up with references--this has been the main problem from the beginning.) Controversial articles like the Sexual harassment article are always going to contain information that not everyone is happy with, this will be the same with topics such as abortion, religion, race, etc. We can't simply delete what we don't like just because we don't like it.

Regarding the uncited sentences, if the contributor who added this does not provide their references by tomorrow, I'll try to find them myself and add them to the article. Aine63 20:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

OK thank you. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Ageism

Maybe you could get some of your pupils to be admins. I'm sure they would be more polite than some around at the mo. You are probably included in the "ageism" group I was referring to. Anyone over the age of 28 and under the age of 17 definitely qualifies. Include anyone who has a job, goes to school or is in a pram too. wallie 20:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

No I can't do that to them. They like me! Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

My daughter was a teacher in her gap year at a prep school called Handcross. Do you know it? wallie 21:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

No I'm afraid not :-( Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Handcross is just north of Brighton. wallie 22:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

CALM DISCUSSION IN A HEATED ENVIRONMENT

Feel free not to visit it then. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Kaspersky Trust

Hello and thank you for looking into my case. I left you a message but Jayjg deleted it and locked the page. It is here . I was so confused about why people would think I am this banned user until I saw the last thing JW1805 said in this section . Now I see that someone is playing a joke on me. It is not a funny joke. If this is why you think I am a sockpuppet, please reconsider. Why would I make an account with my name and this banned user's information? This is a joke on me because I changed the pictures of the wrong person, but I did not mean any offense in it. Please tell how I can prove my innocence. --Kaspersky Trust 18:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.150.106 (talk • contribs)

Sorry but I haved at your contributions myself and am convinced that you are a sockpuppet account.Please go away. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 19:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

U of Alberta

Theresa, I think you're an admin, so maybe you can help. I take issue with this kind of comment - I don't think it's appropriate for Misplaced Pages. I don't want to get into a fight, but I don't know what avenues there are for a third party to ask for help. So, "Help!" Thanks! --Ckatz 01:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the comment was extremely rude. However i am reluctant to get involved just yet. You did the right thing in pointing out that the comment was unacceptable. Hopefully he will take heed. I will watch the situation. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 18:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I find it to be a difficult matter to deal with. On the one hand, I don't have a lot of interaction with the editor in question. We tend to work on different articles, so there's not a personal feud or anything. On the other hand, I find his aggressive behaviour (of which there are many, many other examples throughout the project) to be very frustrating. It reminds me of some very unpleasant individuals I used to work with a long time ago, who would do as they please, but quote chapter-and-verse against anyone who displeased them. Couple that with the fact that these actions have already driven away several editors that I'm aware of, and it's hard to just sit back and ignore the damage that I feel is being done. After noticing the coment in question, I actually sat back and thought for a day or so before responding, so as not to react too rashly. It did seem necessary to bring it to the attention of the admins, though. I've no intention of dragging you into the middle of a battle, or even of asking you to agree with anything I've said above. It's enough to know that someone in authority is aware of what's going on, so that things don't get out of hand. Thanks again. --Ckatz 22:22, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

moo

OMG teh stalking

Your codebreaking quiz

Wow, that was awesome. Although I have to say that #11 was extremely "devilish". Well done, I had a lot of fun figuring it all out, and I think the other commenters on Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Mathematics thread have found all the typos I did.  :) -- Deville (Talk) 13:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 17:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

'books adminship

Do let me know here, or on my talk page (I don't have emailuser), if you want adminship on 'books for Theresa Knott, as confirmation. Thanks, Dysprosia 01:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Simple vandalism?

Hi Theresa, I saw that you removed an ip vandal I'd added to Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism with the comment "not simple vandalism". Could you clarify what that means? I'm not challenging the decision, but I don't understand what the phrase is supposed to mean. Thanks! f(x)=ax+bx+c 06:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Simple vandalism means adding obvious vandalism that no one else will argue is vandalism. Blanking an article, adding "Mikey likes to take it up the arse" deliberately falsifying information (if it's obvious) that kind of thing.In the case you mentioned the person was removing a capital letter and replacing it with a lowercase one. He was being disruptive in that he was getting into revert wars and not discussing his chznges on the talk page, however he was not vandalising the article. HTH Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 11:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again, that's exactly what I was looking for. There was actually more to this case than simply changing letter capitalization. If you look at you'll see the edit s/he has been making. In fact, s/he made the same edit after I reported them. f(x)=ax+bx+c 18:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

That appears to be a different editor. But anyway the jordan edits aren't vandalism either. The anon ( in his own mind) is simply trying to improve our article. This kind of editor is best delt with by talking to rather than blocking. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 19:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Philip Sandifer. Trolls?

No, this is somewhat nastier. A group of people are systematically trying to drive off key en.wikipedia contributors, by real life blackmail (or close enough to it while coming within a hair breaking the law). They are having varying success with this. Why are we helping them? This might become a job for WP:OFFICE if we can't deal with this internally. I'd prefer to deal with things internally. Kim Bruning 12:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

What on earth can they do to him worse than they have already done IRL? If phil is happy to have the page, and since the page in not an attack page, then why not let it go through vfd where i suspect it will be deleted anyway. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 12:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Hehehehe. Well, I think it'd all be helping the people attacking him. *sigh* Especially an Articles For Deletion, which always ends up on google with a lot of "not notable"s. Something about the self-destructive behaviour of communities. I recall seeing a paper on that someplace. :-/ Kim Bruning 12:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Are you trying to help him milk the publicity over the WR incident? if it ends up on google with lots of nns why would that matter? Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 12:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... Well, tell you what, if you think it's not going to be a problem, would you care to keep an eye on things and make sure things don't go crazy? Thanks! Kim Bruning 12:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem .I'd be happy to watch the deletion debate, and would not heistate to take unilateral action should the need arise. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 12:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Criticism of Misplaced Pages May I ask why you reversed my writing in Criticism of Misplaced Pages.

User:Jacknstock

Thanks for unblocking this user, I personally didn't want to do it unilaterally, but you have my support. NSLE _(T+C) at 06:59 UTC (2006-05-27)

Thank you for taking an interest in my case and unblocking me. I assure you that I have nothing to do with GNAA. --Jacknstock 13:11, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

That's good to hear. Welcome to wikipedia! Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 19:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

removing warnings

Hi. I see you removed the alert about User:EurowikiJ who removes warnings from his talk page as "not vandalism". But official wikipedia policy about vandalism says

Removing warnings Removing warnings for vandalism or other issues from one's talk page may also be considered vandalism

EurowikiJ is a disruptive user, who does not discuss his reverts and removes sourced material, often with misleading summaries. In particular article, croatian editors such as Zmaj work more constuctively and do not remove sourced material. However, this user refuses to talk, deletes with no discussion etc. Now he even removes warnings from his talk page. Could you please help? Mostssa 11:25, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed him form the vandalism page because he is clearly not vandalising wikipedia. If he is being disruptive then you need to follow wikipedia:dispute resolution. i hope this helps. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 11:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

But removal of warnings from talk pages is not allowed, according to official policy on vandalism Mostssa 11:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

This is just playing games. If the warning was for vandalism and he wasn't vandalising then of course he can remove the warning. Use common sense usurps everything. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 11:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

the warning is for removal of sourced material. there is a template for that 3n-a; he already had 2n-a. Check his talk page. Removal of sourced material, especially with no discussion, is bad and not according to policies, and thats why the warnings are there. He does not discuss, and now removes the warning, which is specifically designed for his behaviour. Mostssa 11:44, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

OK then you need to go through dispute resolution. Start an rfc on him. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 11:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Removal by error?

Hello Theresa, I suppose you had deleted my concerns voiced on the Admin Alerts page, in response to a trolling individual's assertions, by mistake? If not, maybe you could apply yourself to reslving the issue in dispute? Pantherarosa 12:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm wierdness. Your edit did this. Yes it was a mistake/software glitch. I take it you have reinserted your comment? Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 19:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

OK I'm looking into the dispute and i certainly see numerous personal attacks by you. So perhaps you yourself could apply yourself to resolve this dispute by undertaking to remail civil? Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 19:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Bonnie and Clyde

Is it just me or am I being personally attacked on the Talk:Bonnie and Clyde page? Could you keep an eye on this page to keep it civil. I would like to delete everything that doesn't pertain directly to the article content, but that would set off a firestorm of protest. Somehow, this has become about me personally and not what's in the article. Mytwocents 06:31, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Theresa Knott Hi Theresa, welcome to the Bonnie and Clyde struggle! I have left you a detailed explanation of what occurred on that article, but I will sum it here, you seem quite bright, and thus:

• on at least five occasions 4 or more editors achieved cooperative consensus on the article, opposed only by Mytwocents;
• he overrode the cooperative effort, and deleted up to 1/2 the article without posting any facts in dispute, or discussing his deletions - he merely stated he would "edit as I want" and deleted willy nilly in opposition to up to 7 other people, always a minimum of 4 against his opinion alone - and at no point did he dispute facts.
• he requested a peer review, and when that review wanted quotes instead of subjective langauge, and then approved the quotes presently in the article, he changed his mind, and wanted the quotes out, and when that was opposed by the majority, again at least 4-1, with he alone opposing, he merely deleted again up to 1/2 the article.
• when we objected to this, he began citing rules, saying his right to unilaterally decide POV and NPOV overrode our collective judgement, so, in response, we began citing the rules of engagement.
• Mytwocents has cursed me, literally, on another admin's page - Woohookitty - and filed a false (dismissed as ridiculous, they would not even check the ip addresses, which I and the other editor sought) sock puppet charge on me. His behavior, frankly, is the second worst I have encountered on wikipedia, and I base that on personal attacks, which are unrelenting, and refusal to work cooperatively. Essjay will tell you, as will Katefan0, and Cyclepat, all adminis, that our (many of us) trouble with Mytwocents goes back at least six months, for the above reasons.

Please believe the rest of us - Ewulp will tell you, for instance, that he and I have worked for months on this article without a harsh word - are cooperative editors. Mytwocents made this an edit war by wholesale deletions in open defiance of consensus, without discussion. To close, welcome to the most disputed article on wikipedia! old windy bear 10:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

If this is how old windy bear perceives it, so be it. My take is different. I'd be happy if he just learned to indent and use the preview button..... But I would ask that any mentioning of me on the B&C talkpage be deleted, or that the talk page would be archived again, so we can truly start with a clean slate. I request that wikicivility be strictly enforced on the Bonnie and Clyde and Frank Hamer pages. That, to me, means deleting any off-topic or uncivil statements (anything about me). Thanks! Mytwocents 16:43, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

PS, We all miss Katefan0, she was one of the best.

Theresa Knott, I just wanted to thank you for your for effort on the Talk:Bonnie and Clyde page. Your statement served as the trigger, to put Old windy bear and I on the right track regarding civility. Also, what happened to Katefan0, an admin we both admired greatly, has cast any squabbles we had, in a harsh light, and we have turned our backs on uncivil behavior, with gusto. I assume you have already seen this on the talk page. Regarding why I posted the initial message above, some time back you made this brief note on the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents page. It prompted me to look at your contribs, and I liked your style. Woohookitty had recused himself from the conflict, so.... the rest is history. When it comes to civility, I think you will find that myself and Windybear will have the zeal of converts.

I hope you like the Firm but Fair award. I thought of it as a way to reward admins who keep things civil, in a no nonsense, 'no big production nummber' way. Basicly with common sense and by setting a good example. The picture of the cop, handing out a ticket is meant to be very slightly 'tongue in cheek'. I want it to be a cool award. I hope it comes across that way. Since the wikicommunity has grown so large, I think we need more admins to lay down the law early in conflicts. This would serve to check rude behavour, and keep it from escalating into fullblown flaming, edit warring, and personal attacks. Things that seem to be happening at an exponential rate, as we grow larger. Well, thanks again. Mytwocents 03:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:RD/Maths codebreaker game

I happened today upon your post apropos of the code breaker game, and, inasmuch as level 11 has proven to be supremely vexing, I thought I ought to come here and curse you for having written the game thank you for having created an interesting challenge. I have always thought myself to have a rather dexterous mind, but I am eminently perplexed (I hope, at the very least, that my difficulties stem from my being overly familiar with ASCII, à la Larry, rather than from my being a dolt, although I suspect the latter infirmity is the cause), and so I must ask, in contravention of my general disfavoring of seeking help on such things, if you would be so kind as to proffer some hint, either on my talk page or, in the case that you shouldn't like to publicize the hint, via e-mail. Should you help me, in order that I might sleep/not throw my monitor across the room, I will fry these for you... Thanks kindly in advance! Joe 04:48, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Now I feel even worse: the hint that you gave was something on which I'd already thought some, and yet I almost instantly got the answer (of all the different things I'd tried, the proper system wasn't one). Well, I finished level 13, so I can now go back to eating, sleeping, and otherwise leading a normal life. Thanks much for a fun time! I hope you won't inflict such trauma on your students (although, of course, mind-stretching is always good), or at least only for extra credit (which calls to mind a sixth grade math teacher whom I had who assigned ten optional "extra credit" problems each week...with the caveat that, irrespective of one's performance, he/she could earn an "A" for the course only if he/she successfully completed the "extra credit" problems).  :) Joe 17:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

My pupils are a little too young for this particlular one. However I have created a version for younger children with the help of my computer club kids. At the moment we only have it on the school intranet because of copyright concerns on some of the levels, however I intend to sort that out soonish so that the little ones can have fun too. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:22, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Your code game at level 5

The URL http://pages.google.com/edit/theresaknott/v you gave throws up a Login Screen for a Google Account, which I don't have, but anyways what I saw was on page http://theresaknott.googlepages.com/v, where there is a word Ceaser (in "Ceaser cypher" -- at my default browser settings split over two lines). It is also in the page title. I thought this should be Caesar, as in Caesar cipher. (I consider "cypher" an acceptable variant of "cipher" -- although on http://theresaknott.googlepages.com/dog you do spell "cipher"). --Lambiam 10:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Per your message, please change my user name

Please change my name to neutral advocate ASAP. Thank you. Neutral arbiter 06:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Moldovans

Your help on Transnistria was good. Now, this kid named User:Node ue has started to make revert wars on Moldovans. Do something. It takes 2 to make war revert I know. But he supports a stalinist view. --141.14.139.166 19:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Firstly who are you? Secondly there seems to be a lot more people involved than just Node ue thirdly I don't care what his view is as long as his edits are neutral, which edits do you dispute? Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. They call me in different ways. Actually I'm a romanian. But I'm not the one who all expect. I guess we're more than dozen. The edits that are disputed are: Moldovans are Russians supported by User:Node ue, meanwhile Moldovans are Romanians and by no means Russians. --141.14.139.166 20:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

It's Bonaparte, and he disputes anything that disagrees with his Pan-Romanian ideology. —Khoikhoi 20:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You lie. What relation has Pan-Romanian with node's statement that Moldovans are Russians ? --141.14.139.166 20:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

He didn't say they are Russian, he said they declared themselves as russian. Now this is either true or false. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

NPOV

The problem is the node's edits are not neutral. Please see Node ue (talk · contribs). --141.14.139.166 20:12, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Please give me an example edit, and explain why it is not neutral. I know nothing about this topic. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Look, blatant anti-romanian remark: anti-romanian remark --141.14.139.166 20:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

It's very obvious that romanians are not russians! Why would romanians be russians? As Node's statement is? Yes, is true romanians don't love russians due to the fact that Russia took a part of Romania and then created a soviet republic. --141.14.139.166 20:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

So argument that "Note: many Moldovans declared themselves as Romanians or Russians." is wrong because NO Moldovians declared themselves as russian? Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes! When you say Moldovan you say romanian. Because there is also a region in Romania called Moldova and all the moldovans from Romania are romanians. Remember Moldova was split into 2 parts: one become Republic of Moldova after 1945. One is further on part of Romania.

Except for the russian minority from Republic of Moldova which are Moldovan citizens they don't declare themselves as Russians. Why should a romanian declare as russian? Never ever! There were millions romanians deported in Siberia by russians. A russification process was done in Republic of Moldova. Remember that even now in Transnistria (part of R. of Moldova) there are russian troups. European Union, USA, UK wants that russians to go out of there, and they don't allow russian troups to have army there. --83.175.144.14 20:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

So some did declare themdselves as russian then! Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

ONLY russian minority which by no means are not moldovans=romanians. 83.175.144.14 21:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The statement was that many moldovans declared themselves as romanian or russian. You are saying that only those who were russian would declare themselves as russian? This is not a contractiction with what node ue said. Note he did not state that romanian moldovians declared themselves as russian. This looks like a simple misunderstanding to me. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 22:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Personal info

I noticed you removed some personal info that was posted about a user here. Could you please delete the diffs where it was posted? I still haven't learned how to do that myself. Thanks in advance! --InShaneee 20:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You need special privaledges to do it (which fortunately i have but haven't used yet). I've deleted the revision in question. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Really? I was told any admin could do that through some complex proceedure. Also, it looks like the link above to the diff still works. --InShaneee 21:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict):You can delete the entire page and then recreate it ticking only the revisions that you want. For a user talk page this would generally be difficult as they tend to be busy. But the revision is still in the history as a deleted revision so an innapropriate edit summary would still be visible (although that was not the case here). Recently - about a week ago a new feature was added whereby people with the hideuser privaledge could delete the diff entirely so that noone could ever see it again. So far only a very few admins are able to do this. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) Hmm it seems like I need a little practise getting it right! Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again! :) --InShaneee 21:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't thank me yet. it's still not done properly

Really? The diff's gone now... --InShaneee 21:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I think I've done them all now. i had to remove all the diffs from when it was added to when it was finally removed by me. In this case it was a lot because several people edited the page and left the personal info up. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Whew. Well, thanks again for all the help, I appreciate it! --InShaneee 03:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Jayjg new revert war at Ahmadinejad and Israel

I would like you to take a look at the removal by Jayjg of a section in the article. This section was first inserted in mid April, when the speech was widely reported internationally. Jayjg removed it not only without suggesting an alternative, but did not make any mention of the fact that he had removed it in the discussion section. That major change was first discussed after two reversions by other people when I brought it up in the discussion section. I restored it to the state it had existed for six weeks pending a compromise being reached in discussion but it was reverted by a different user. I removed all quotations except one so that the section fit better with the others. Jayjg reverted that also. I find this behavior offensive from anyone, especially an arbcom member. TopRank 16:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The section in question was just a near verbatim reproduction of an uninteresting speech by Ahmadinejad; as part of a cleanup of the article I removed it and explained clearly why in my edit summary. It was subsequently moved to Wikiquote. The removal has also been discussed at length on the Talk: page. None of that constitutes "Jayjg new revert war", and your spamming of this duplicate message on the Talk: page of every single ArbCom member is highly disruptive. Jayjg 17:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry proclamation

Greeting Arbitrator, what do you think of people proclaiming/declaring a sockpuppet war? See my post at WP:AN/I. REgards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

Batman2005's user page

I'm just wondering your views on Moe putting a blatant vandal warning on my talk page for removing the personal attacks from Batman's user page. Note that I was explaining my views and did not begin edit warring - when they continued to object I brought it to WP:AN. Do you think that my actions were that of blatant vandalism? Paul Cyr 19:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

No I don't. You did edit someone else's user page three times, so it looks agressive to me. However I'm sure that you were editing in good faith so it can't be vandalism. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 22:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

In that case would it be appropriate for me or someone else to remove the warning as it was placed without just cause? Paul Cyr 05:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I removed it. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 07:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Atkins Diet - BrianZ

Theresa,

This is user Tommac2. You have reverted my edits of a very signifigant issue that I found with user BrianZ. And I was just curious as to why you did that.

Basically I found something out that was quite disturbing. Have you had a chance to read what you reverted?

I found out that the following was true and I posted the evidence trail for it. Please read all of it as the sequence is important. I will try to keep it short and factual.

1) Brianzs first post was spam of his site "atkins all the way" 2) removed and handslapped by GraemeL 3) Spam cleanup by MonkeyMan ... all forums still in tact after spam cleanup 4) Brian went in and under the pretents of removing peta links from the Atkins Site removed all of the external links. ( All forum links gone )

Then this is where Brians crusade started about cleaning up the sites. I am appauled that this has been allowed and feel this should be punished.

Regards, Tom Tommac2

I reveted for one reason and one reason only. Anon editors were adding the link back in. It was their only activity on wikipedia. Now what I assume is happening is that you, or someone else mentioned the link being removed on the bullatin board and people are coming here from your board with the intention of forcing it back. This cannot be permitted. Whether the link stays or goes must be decided by wikipedians not meatpuppets. That's why I reverted and that's why I semiprotected.

I think perhaps a WP:RFC will settle the matter. That way the wider wikipedia community can comment and the matter will be finally settled. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 22:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

-- I didnt do that. I have no idea who added the site back.

Also the mediation is definitely not going well.

I found some history about the issue at hand. It appears that BrianZ was the first to remove the external links and hid it as a removal of Peta related links.

This is really crazy that BrianZ can just do what he pleases on that site.

What are the next steps I can take?

Regards, Tom Tommac2

Please Advise

Haizum 02:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee

Hi Theresa. It looks like it's been more than a month since the last time you participated in an arbitration case (in fact, -Ril- 2 on March 22). I have moved you to "Inactive" on WP:AC. Feel free to move yourself back to active if you are planning on participating in the near future. Dmcdevit·t 04:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Hryun

Hello. I am Hryun, who re-created the Certainty principle article. (1) FYI, Slicky, who created the first version some time ago, is completely independent side. In the discussion (before re-creation of the article) I recognized that the initial article was not good at all. (2) I repeated many times that I do not want to make unnecessary disturbance here. But Inquisition here fights with me by all means, breaking WP policy (for example, they remove my posts even from discussion pages). (3) Believe me, I am smart enough to make substantial disturbance here. I do apologize that many good Wikipedians, who do not fight with me, will suffer. But I have no choice. With best wishes, Lksfkj 22:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Bring it on. I am smart too and I have a delete button, which you do not. Your threats are stupid, we have substantial experience of trolls here. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 04:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Link spam

--Thresa you have posted that I am logging in at multiple ips and adding atkinsdietbulletinboard.com . I am at two IPs and two IPS only and I sign my name on all my posts. I never added any linkspam. All I did was revert BrianZs External Link edits.

This is the entire deal and I will be 100% truthful here. I use wikipedia quite a bit. But mostly to gather information. I really dont have time for contribution. I am involved in a number of projects regarding the Atkins Diet and have been for the past 10+ years. I run Atkins Diet Bulletin Board. If you do a search on google for the keywords Atkins Diet. I am at #5 and 7 or 6 and 8 with my site cuy.net/atkins and atkins diet bulletin board on Yahoo I used to be #1 for a while then #3. I claim ( without proof ) to have had the first Atkins Diet related website. I think this was before the Atkins Diet site started up. In fact it was before IE was around and before even netscape browser was mainstream. I mostly used lynx to view the simple site.

For I guess the past 10+ years I have been involved in some aspect or another as a key member of the Atkins Diet community. Mailing lists ( again I think I had the first one ) The bulleting board ( which stemmed off of another one that was subcontracted out by me ... I think that was the first bulletin board )

In any case I have been around the block.

I use wiki to gather information and as a first source to do information lookups etc. Well I saw Atkins Diet Bulletin Board listed there and thought that was cool. Then one time I went and saw it wasnt there. Then I looked a little and saw that it was BrianZ that removed it. I know that BrianZ was a member at ADBB and without going into it all again knew that he wasnt a big fan of ADBB so I readded the site. I then noticed that he posted very negatively about me ( all lies ) on Graemels site. I kind of took it personally at that point. And after doing a bit more research I was able to see what exactly was going on.

To be 100% honest my site being listed in Wiki does very little for my over all traffic on my page. At any time of the day there are over 40+ registered users there plus about 100 guests. The board is popular and anyone interested in the Atkins Diet can find it if they are looking or they will eventually get there.

That being said. I dont enjoy the implications that I am a spammer. I am not and I take offence to it. I battle spam all the time on my pages and have been a respected member of the atkins community for quite a while.

I do also think that the site has a place on wiki as I posted. I believe that the site: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=79 should be listed. Please take a peak there and give me your opinion.

I dont believe that wikipedia would be a good place / way to house all of that info but I do believe that a link there would be a helpful external link for someone that is looking for help.

I am not sure why the site has been singled out and removed as linkspam. It is not a commercial site. And it is Free and abides by all of the rules. Most importantly there is exceptional information there that compliments wiki.

This all being said. I give you my word that I will not re-add the site. I just didnt like BrianZ removing it and that was the reason I was insitent in adding it back.

However I would like you to consider reading through the topics at least ... and maybe the content there and consider if for linking on the Atkins Diet site.

That is all. So you can end this and open the site back up. I am happy where things stand and although I would like to see http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=79 listed if it is not deemed appropriate then so be it. (Although I was still never given a reason why it was deemed linkspam and it would be cool to get an explination )

OK,

Thanks Tom Tommac2

:)

Just in case your Wikistress has gone up a little lately, have some of these. :) — Nathan 02:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Than you! Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 07:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Anytime. I quickly became addicted to those last summer, when I was in the UK. (Now they don't sell them in Canada! :( ) — Nathan 19:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protection of my talk page

Thanks for the s-protect on my talk page, its much appreciated. Must be slow day out there today, the trolls and vandals seem to be having a field day :-). Thanks, Gwernol 17:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. If I forget to turn it off please do remind me ( or take it to WP:AN if I'm not about) Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn

Re:Minun Rules the world

He keeps tagging it, can you stop him? Highway 20:00, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Tony has delt with him Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Raleigh, NC

I've been fighting to include some information on prostitution in Raleigh to the Raleigh, NC article. This has met with some resistance from two editors that watch the page. It is my feeling that their objection stems from their desire to promote the city and thereby defend it from facts that might reflect poorly upon the fair city. But they have put their objections in their own words. Can you skim the discussion and add your own opinion? I know you're busy, but we've been reverting for a number of months.

LegCircus 21:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

A graphic request

Hi Theresa - I've seen your name so many times on good edits, I'm starting to become a fan. I hope you won't mind if I make a graphic request :) ... The "Holland Codes" article could benefit from the inclusion of the "Holland Hexagon". The OrphanBot gobbled a nice one that I was unable to secure a license for (was at Image:Holland_codes.gif). A basic example is shown here , (might look better with different text alignment). Here is a more elegant example. . A couple nicely colored examples and . Some also show aditional axes . There seems to be a lot of room for artistic license. I prefer designs that align the categories with the edges of the hexagon, rather than at the corners, but I have seen examples of both styles. If this inspires you, great, and if not, I can live with that. My main interest in the Holland Hexagon, was to follow the life-story of unlicensed image on Misplaced Pages. In some sense, that experiment is concluded, but in another sense, it led me here. Where will it end?

Thanks for all of your good work.

--Michaelfavor 10:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

user:socafan

I originally thought he was another sockpuppet of Johnny Dangerously, based on this: However, this seems less likely, but Essjay seems to think he's a sockpuppet of Dabljuh. I'm not sure what to think any more, but I'm surprised that he didn't e-mail me. Jayjg 16:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC)