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Speedy deletion nomination of Zev Wolfson

Hello Yambaram,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Zev Wolfson for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Wikipedical (talk) 09:42, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Targeted Individual for deletion

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Barack Obama

I've posted a reply to your comment at User talk: Meelar. Meelar (talk) 12:55, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Dianna and thank you for contacting me regarding this matter. After I created the article on Shaul Eisenberg I tried to upload the same photo that the Hebrew article used but was not able to. I decided to do it myself - a photo of the actual person adds a lot to the article in my opinion. Let me directly translate what it says on the original photo page found in Hebrew wikipedia: "This file is copyrighted. However, the uploader of the file strongly believes that the use of it on Misplaced Pages shall be considered as fair use." Now, having said that quote (which I agree with by the way), I'm not going to fight over this photo and start contacting the owner and getting into this whole thing. I'm leaving this issue up to you/the wiki community to decide what to do about the issue. Best, Yambaram (talk) 03:52, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

David Karp

I have removed the information on the David Karp article regarding him being Jewish due to poor sourcing. Firstly, the David Karp mentioned in the bonappetit.com article refers to a different David Karp – David Karp (pomologist). Secondly, the Steve Sailer article makes no mention of David Karp. There is a comment about Karp being Jewish in the comments but that is most certainly not a reliable source. Per Misplaced Pages's policy on biographies of living persons, this information should not be readded to the article unless a reliable source is found. - Kollision (talk) 04:55, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello and thanks for writing me regarding this. I noticed you removed my edits for the second time about Karp's religion, and appreciate your effort in trying to make sure the information on wikipedia is valid and correct. I didn't know the first link mentioned a different David Karp but you're probably right, and the second source does specifically say he's Jewish, type his name in the search bar if you will, and yes I agree that it's not a good enough source. However, I wouldn't have made these comments about him being Jewish had I not known it: I personally remember reading on either the new york times or forbes magazine a statement made by him in an interview in which he said he's Jewish (not an observant though), but was unable to find this article online. Since no wiki-standard-reliable-source can be found/exists to our knowledge as of now, I'll respect what you said and will wait until one comes out to support it. After all, this issue is a little foolish to care so much about..Best, Yambaram (talk) 04:54, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Yambaram. I have twice attempted to edit misinformation in David Karp's personal life section. He was not raised in a Jewish home. I know this because I am his mother. Respectfully, Barbara Ackerman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbarascience (talk • contribs) 22:36, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello David Karp's mother, wow what an honor if you're really her... I apologize for reverting your edits on the page, I never would've guessed that you were the one doing that. So he's not Jewish at all or was he just not raised in the Jewish faith? There're a few sources on the web that say he is, but I tend to believe you. I've just removed this information, as long as you don't tell me otherwise. Apparently, there's a notable woman named Barbara Ackerman, but this isn't you right? click here to see. Regards, Yambaram (talk) 09:20, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Fatah

Please see WP:TERRORIST. This guideline is especially important in Middle East articles because things will get badly out of hand if it isn't followed. Zero 05:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpful links. But are these four links, for example, not enough? . There's no doubt that article has a lot of biases.. Yambaram (talk) 18:18, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Stub tags

Please note that the {{stub}} template does not take any parameters. Instead of {{stub|Judaism}} which you included in Proper behavior precedes the Torah, you could have used {{Judaism-stub}}. And it goes after the categories, not before them - see WP:ORDER. Thanks. PamD 21:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, PamD, for letting me know about these minor mistakes. I didn't do them intentionally and so I'll learn from your comment in future times. Yambaram (talk) 22:03, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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Okay I see, thanks. Well, at least a warning should be sent, I just don't know how to do it and whether I have the permission or not. Yambaram (talk) 16:56, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Outgrow.me

Hello Yambaram,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Outgrow.me for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. - Blanchardb -- timed 00:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me about that, but I have to say that this is impertinence. I truly didn't try to create this article in a promotional way, and hoped the final product wouldn't seem like it, but after collecting information about the website and finishing writing it, it ended up looking a bit like that. But is that really a sufficient reason to delete it and all the work I've put into it? Without even letting me be a part of the deletion process or giving me time to contest it? With an additional 5 minutes of work, the article could have been improved and made proper for Misplaced Pages! Yambaram (talk) 16:27, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

"But is that really a sufficient reason to delete it and all the work I've put into it?" Yes, since your hard work would have to be undone either way. Please note that speedy deletion without discussion is for blatant cases, which, unfortunately, your article was. It needed a fundamental rewrite from scratch to meet our standards.

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Hi sfan00 and thanks for contacting me, I appreciate your concern and work.

As you suggested, I sent an email to "permissions-en@wikimedia.org" with a copy of the permission email from the original photo/website owner. Yambaram (talk) 17:07, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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Ugh, Someone already contacted me regarding this (look above) and I emailed wikiepdia and sent them the "evidence". I'm tired of this, I wouldn't mind if it's deleted since that's what happened to the article. Thanks, Yambaram (talk) 01:28, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Go to Preferences, then "gadgets", then "editing" and check "Remove VisualEditor from the user interface". You aren't alone: I just set up an edit filter to flag that error and they are coming at the rate of four or five a minute.—Kww(talk) 06:09, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated! Apparently I don't have the "gadgets" option.. I guess I'll just wait and see. Yambaram (talk) 06:21, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

What do you see when you go to preferences?—Kww(talk) 15:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I took a screenshot of it but wasn't able to attach it so I'm copying and pasting the options I see there in order:

User profile, Appearance, Date and time, Editing, Recent changes, Watchlist, Search, Misc, Gadgets, Notifications, Pending changes.

I might as well go the the talk page and ask this question, someone should be able to give me an answer, if there is one. Best, Yambaram (talk) 03:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm confused. I told you to select gadgets, and you said you didn't have the "gadgets" option. When I asked what you got, though, you wrote "User profile, Appearance, Date and time, Editing, Recent changes, Watchlist, Search, Misc, Gadgets, Notifications, Pending changes". Why don't you think you have the "gadgets" option?—Kww(talk) 01:26, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Omg I'm really sorry, my apology I have no idea why I said it or how I missed it. What a rare mistake, not typical for me... Now let's go back to editing, thank a lot! Yambaram (talk) 01:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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Nomination of Samuel Westrop for deletion

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Anna Wintour raised in Jewish household?

I'm not quarreling with your edit here, but I do wonder where Forbes got this from. In several years of maintaining this article, and having done most of the research, this is the first time any reliable source has made this claim.

I suspect, based on the text below the entry, that the reporter may have confused the real Anna Wintour with the Miranda Priestly character as described in the novel, where she does have a Jewish background. Perhaps we need to query Forbes on what their source is for this.

Yet another example of a listicle as a cover for poor journalism. Possibly. Daniel Case (talk) 17:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for noticing that, I find this pretty interesting due to what you just said. You might've been confused, but Forbes itself didn't say Wintour is a Jew (they never mention anyone's religion), however they did of course publish that list. The website Jspace.com then picked the women they knew (or thought) were Jewish, and published their own article, in which the author said about Wintour's J(ewish)-connection that she "was raised in a Jewish household". They could be right or wrong and we can also ask them where they got it from like you suggested, but a quick check strengthened this claim in this article, which seems to be a strong and reliable source. Let me quote from there: Cutler, a 47-year-old veteran filmmaker, grew up in a Jewish home in Great Neck, N.Y., and he identifies in an unexpected way with Wintour’s struggle between her public and private personas. “It’s like a classic Jewish folk tale, the story of Anna Wintour and her family,” he said of the editor. “It’s just so Jewish that this is a woman people bow down to everywhere she goes — they worship her, they’re terrified of her, they revere her. But the one group of people she wants to take her seriously — her family — think she’s silly.” So, what do we make of it? By the way, I lived for 3 years in the same county you were born. Yambaram (talk) 20:15, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

This edit of yours conflicted with what I was writing, and since I was in the process of paying for thr work on my car and leaving the dealership anyway I decided to put it off until I could leave, go down the road to the Starbucks I'm at now and get a cappuccino.

Basically, since this morning I've decided we can't use it. I hadn't realized at the time it wasn't from Forbes, it was from Jspace, which makes it less reliable IMO as they're not really known for their journalism (didn't they start off as Jdate ... a dating website IIRC?) The article is unsigned and does not cite sources consistently. For some entries it points to a quote where they identify as Jewish (and for some it's frankly self-evident) but for Wintour there is no information given to support the claim that she "grew up in a Jewish household".

I, too, was at first taken in by the Jewish Journal article, too. But if you read the bit you quoted closely you'll realize that's all it's saying is that a) R.J. Cutler is Jewish and b) he likens Anna Wintour to a character in a Jewish folk tale. That doesn't add up to "Anna Wintour is Jewish."

I think I figured out just how it was that the Jspace writer (probably an intern, I'd bet) got confused in the manner I suspected above. The top Google hit for "Anna Wintour Jewish" is this ask.com page, which might have satisfied the Jspace intern but is emphatically not a reliable source for a claim in a Misplaced Pages article. I suspect that, in turn, either the Jspace writer looking for further verification or the original ask.com respondent found this page, which seems to have relied heavily upon our articles on the movie, book and real people involved without saying so (How do I know? I can easily recognize bits of my own prose in sections which were deleted from our articles in the years since I wrote them). At the bottom of one section is a paragraph ending with "... both were raised in a Jewish household."

But if you read (again) carefully you'll see that the paragraph is discussing not Wintour/Priestly but the similarities between Lauren Weisberger and her protagonist, Andrea Sachs.

So, I don't think the claim has any defensible basis in a reliable source. Not only should we take it out of the article, we should tell Jspace to correct themselves.

So, where in Bergen County did you live? Daniel Case (talk) 21:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Wow that's a good amount of info right there. I like your deep thinking into it and the assumptions you made, and think they're very close to reality - in fact as I checked this issue (whether she's Jewish or not) I found those same websites and got to similar conclusions. So I'll now remove this sentence, even though it might be true - indeed it'd be quite ironic if we found out she's actually Jewish later on in the future. And I lived in Closter, Bergen County, where I graduated highschool last year. Yambaram (talk) 22:41, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I have sent Jspace an email (with the subject line that I should have used for this section, "That's funny, Anna Wintour doesn't look Jewish"). I suppose it could turn out to be true, but I would be genuinely surprised if it were and had gone unmentioned until now. For one thing her brother Patrick followed in their father's footsteps and became a prominent British journalist himself, and no one's ever said anything about him being Jewish. For another, it did not go unnoticed or unmentioned in mid-century Britain if you were that prominent and Jewish. Jerry Oppenheimer's book would certainly have mentioned it. And for a third, with the lineage she had I also doubt that either side of her family was Jewish—while they were certainly Jews among both the British peerage and the Main Line social set, they would have kept it very discreet and may well have kinda-sorta converted to the point of appeasing the turned-up noses among them.

Closter ... I go through Bergen County a lot, but haven't been through there in a while. Daniel Case (talk) 00:19, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Hi Yambaram,

Thank you very much for the barnstar :)

—Ynhockey 10:38, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

2013-09 dubious stat

Comments on other editors

Your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gatestone Institute show a complete lack of good faith and might even discourage other editors from !voting delete. Basically you've accused two editors of being dishonest. Dougweller (talk) 20:41, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Let me ask you to assume good faith on my side first. I didn't blame anyone and definitely didn't intend to do so, and if you look again, by writing "Sadly, I'm afraid a lack of..." I simply expressed my concern about the reasons standing behind the deletion of this article. It's okay to say so because in this case I'm very confident the article should stay Yambaram (talk) 21:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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I believe you are permitted to change your vote at an AfD. I suggest you just strike through the "or Merge" language of your original vote, and put your reason for the strikethrough in an indented comment directly below your original vote. --72.66.30.115 (talk) 22:39, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for writing me regarding this. You may have misunderstood me, but I wasn't saying I'm in favor of merging the articles, I said that neither merging option is good.. Anyway, the two were kept and are alive now and that's what matters! Yambaram (talk) 20:12, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Deleted article "Appsfire" now in your userspace

Hi Yambaram. The deleted article "Appsfire" is now here. I must say, this does seem outside of your usual editing interests, hmm? As always, I am assuming good faith. Pete in Australia aka --Shirt58 (talk) 13:45, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Shirt58 and thanks for your quick respond - I don't know why the blocking of a user required that the article be deleted too if there was nothing wrong with it, but I just uploaded it again anyway. It's funny hearing someone say it's outside of my usual editing interests because I choose to edit such a wide variety of articles and topics... In cased you were wondering if I have any connection to the alleged user: what happened is I simply searched for this article and saw it had been deleted, so I thought why not bring it back. Regards, Yambaram (talk) 20:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Aaron Swartz

I've replied to your question on my Talk page. MarkBernstein (talk) 16:58, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

George Galloway

Hi, I noticed your two edits where you were trying to add defamatory material to an article on a living person. I am here to tell you that any further behaviour like this will lead to a block for you. Should you feel the need to go down this road I cannot stop you, but it would be great if you could stop without administrative action being necessary. Either way, have a good day. --John (talk) 10:55, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

To go down which road? I can hardly believe you're serious because this is really pathetic. Why do you consider this as defamatory material? Reliable sources such as this and that one support what I wrote. How many more source are needed to prove this information is valid, do I need to find a video of him saying it in order to add this to the article? Anyway I'm not going to fight about it, I'm encountering so much unbalanced NPOV recently. Regards Yambaram (talk) 11:36, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Very wise. For future reference, the thing to do is discuss in article talk and acquire a consensus there. --John (talk) 11:43, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

I add that this edit with antisemite tone and based on material from an antisemitic website is particularly unwelcome . If you don't change totally your behaviour on the biographies on living people as well as your general tone when you discuss on wikipedia, your ban will have to be examined. Pluto2012 (talk) 12:12, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Pluto2012, I just reviewed the second source I used for citation and realized it's likely that the website is indeed antisemitic, though it doesn't state it. That was not my original intention whatsoever god forbid. I'm Jewish and so I tend to add the fact that people are Jewish if it's missing (just like an Irish user would probably like to add that a famous actor, for example, is of Irish descent if that actor really is). And what's with my general tone now? I am as calm as can be and have said nothing wrong. Yambaram (talk) 12:39, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Yambaram, I will try to explain why your edits to the Galloway article are problematic. You should carefully read WP:BLP and comply with it in future. The edit I reverted here is a very clear policy violation. You used Misplaced Pages's unattributed neutral narrative voice to state as fact that Galloway is anti-Semitic. You used 2 sources. This source does not comply with WP:BLPSPS. In this context it isn't a reliable source. Your other source here is an opinion piece by Liam Hoare. Are his views notable enough for inclusion ? I don't know. That's the kind of thing talk pages are for. However, your use of that source to support statements that Galloway is, as an undisputed fact, anti-Semitic or that he is regarded as anti-Semitic is a distortion of what the source actually says. Read it again carefully and this time pay attention to what the article actually says about who/what has been accused of anti-Semitism, how it describes Galloway's views and pay particular attention to the care the author took to include "Galloway rejects anti-Semitism publically but he is certainly no friend of Israel". Perhaps there are reliable sources out there that explicitly accuse Galloway, not his party, not other members of the party, of anti-Semitism, but this isn't one of them. If you are still unable to see what is wrong with both of your edits I suggest you stop editing articles where your personal views compromise you edits. Alternatively the matter could be escalated to ensure that you are not able to make these kind of mistakes again in this article or elsewhere. This is not the first time you have made a terrible edit. Setting aside the use of an unreliable source like Bard's Myths & Facts propaganda site in an encyclopedia, this edit, in which you say "The term occupied is considered by many official bodies and organizations as "disputed"" is disturbing. Who are these "many official bodies", what is the nature of these many organizations and where is the genuinely reliable source that supports this statement ? Finally, if you haven't already done so, you need to read about the discretionary sanctions that cover the WP:ARBPIA topic area here. Sean.hoyland - talk 14:49, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Sean.hoyland, I really appreciate your time and input here. I always oppose any kind of vandalism or unethical editing on Misplaced Pages, so let me explain my side. Regarding Galloway, I should've doubled checked the sources and their content, but when a person says "I was re-elected despite all the efforts made by the British government, the Zionist movement and the newspapers and news media which are controlled by Zionism" as The Daily Beast reported here, a simple conclusion can be made about him. Many blogs out there accuse him of being an anti-Semite, but sadly it sure is hard to find a primary source say this since, like I and many others believe, his anti-Semitism is masked as anti-Zionism. Anyway, I'll be much more careful about such topics and will avoid them in the future, and I mean it. Secondly, I'm very disappointed and quite shocked by you calling Mitchell Bard's Myths and Facts book / site a propaganda - this claim can't even be found anywhere on the web... Lastly I suggest you take a look on why I think it's disputed, and to answer your question, these official bodies include Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs among many others, see here. It's very arguable but we mustn't be so one-sided, these sources, for example, say this too: 1 and 2. The "occupied" West Bank is even included in a Misplaced Pages article titled "List of territorial disputes". Finally, thank you guys for writing me. I get the impression of good faith from you. I learned a lesson, and hope that you got something from it as well. -Yambaram (talk) 20:27, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Since nobody else has stepped in, I will: in your previous comment you stated, "... his anti-Semitism is smartly masked as anti-Zionism," which is a WP:BLP violation (WP:BLP applies everywhere in Misplaced Pages, including user pages) and so should be removed.

If you search on terms such as Mitchell Bard or JewishVirtualLibrary on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard you'll find discussions of Myths and Facts. My impression is that you'd find strong opposition to using any source material derived from Myths and Facts.

    ←   ZScarpia   12:23, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

ZScarpia, I changed that sentence as you requested. If this still isn't okay and needs to be completely censored and removed, then I don't know what talk pages and discussion are even for, and the "red line" is far off. I get the feeling that I'm being targeted for unjustified reasons here. Regarding the Jewish Virtual Library, I just spent some time reading the discussion you put links for. Despite the fact that it was 3 years ago, no general consensus was reached, and in the meantime it's been translated into more languages, used for citation in Misplaced Pages and other places, and has become almost undoubtedly reliable - in fact I might raise this issue again at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. -Yambaram (talk) 21:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

As regards using Jewish Virtual Library as a source, there has also been a lot of discussion on individual article talkpages also. What seems to be the position is that individual JVL articles may be considered reliable depending on whether the authors are listed and who those authors are. Part of the problem with the JVL is that one of its stated purposes is advocacy, which means it falls foul of the rule saying that only third-party sources can be used. You might like to contact Avi, who was involved in some of the discussions, to find out what the situation is.     ←   ZScarpia   23:06, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Overlinking

Hi, thanks for your work. Please note that dates and common terms are not generally linked. Tony (talk) 14:15, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the feedback. You're probably talking about this article. Regards, Yambaram (talk) 15:57, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Richard M. Karp

Please do not add ethnic or religious categories to biographical articles, as you did to Richard M. Karp, unless you have (1) a source stating that the person actually belongs to the category, and (2) text within the article, referring to the source, stating the significance of the category to the subject's notability. See Misplaced Pages:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality, and in particular the statement there that "Categories regarding religious beliefs of a living person should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question " —David Eppstein (talk) 16:32, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

After spot-checking your recent edits and finding more with the same problem, I am initiating a mass roll-back. Probably some good edits will be lost in the process. Feel free to redo the ones for which you have appropriate documentation, but again, do not add ethnic or religious categories to biographies, especially of living people, unless they have not self-identified as belonging to that category, there is text in the article identifying them in that category, and there is a reliable source (not just a web site or article where some partisan has collected names, but a publication specifically about that person) identifying them as belonging to that category. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I just left a response on your talk page. Yambaram (talk) 18:48, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

—Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:43, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Jayjg 20:48, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Jayjg 23:59, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Peter R. Orszag

Yambaram, on what material in the article cited did you base this edit? Was it his statement that "My mom is a very warm, typical sort of Jewish-mother type. And my dad has a somewhat, um, different personality."? Jayjg 00:09, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for writing me about this small concern. You may have missed it so let me quote what Orszag himself says that article I cited "My mom is a very warm, typical sort of Jewish-mother type." Orszag is unquestionably a Jew, as this article tells too. Other non-reliable sources, such as this one, agree. May I revert your edit and add that additional JVL source now? Yambaram (talk) 10:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure how I could have "missed it", since I quoted it in my original question to you. A "Jewish-mother type" is not necessarily Jewish (the phrase describes behavior, not ethnicity or religion), and this says nothing about Peter himself. The other sources are not ] and therefore not relevant. So no, you can't revert, and you can't add unreliable sources. Per WP:BLP, please ensure that all sources for claims, particularly about living people, are backed by high quality reliable sourcing. Jayjg 19:30, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

That's so weird, my bad, for some reason my eyes had apparently floated over some your first comment and only now I see your quote from the article. Considering that somewhat questionable quote, his name, his look, the Jewish Virtual library source (it's actually a very reliable website), and another Jewish Telegraphic Agency article, which says he's Jewish in their article here ("Mazal tov: Peter Orszag and Bianna Golodryga ... Jewish budget man at White House meets Jewish reporter from ABC News. They fall in love. And now they’re engaged") all indicate that he's a Jew. If you think that mentioning the Jewish background of such a man with such a position would lead to negative results, and by that I by it would "give bread" to antisemites, then it's totally understandable and I'll drop this case. Yambaram (talk) 20:59, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The only thing that really matters is the new reference you've brought from the JTA, which is a reliable source. You can use that one, if you want. Jayjg 19:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

WP:ARBPIA

Hello Yambaram. Your complaint at WP:ANI#A report against two users for their violations seems to fall in the domain of WP:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles. To be sure that you have the full story about that arbitration case, I'm leaving you the WP:ARBPIA notice:

Please carefully read the following notice:

The Arbitration Committee authorises Misplaced Pages administrators to impose sanctions on editors who edit pages relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Blocks, bans on reverting edits, bans from the entire topic area, or other sanctions may be imposed for disruptive edits to pages relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Before making any more edits to this topic area, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. The arbitration decision affecting edits to this topic can be read here. I will record on the arbitration case decision page that you have been given this notice. You are now formally aware discretionary sanctions have been authorised and can be imposed with no further warning. Please do not hesitate to contact me or any other editor if you have any questions.

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The two users that you complained about in that thread, User:Zero0000 and User:Nishidani were previously aware of the case and now you are also. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 21:48, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for this message, EdJohnston, and for your edit on that page, I'll definitely consider reporting some of my allegation there. Please don't let Nishidani confuse you though. The accusations I listed are about much more than just the Arab-Israeli conflict. Let's see how it goes on. - Yambaram (talk) 22:04, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

Hello, I'm Malik Shabazz. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Jewish Internet Defense Force, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 16:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Malik Shabazz and thanks for writing me about your concern over the sources I used, though some of the which were very reliable. If we're using numerous self-published articles from the JIDF website for citation it the article, then I'm convinced we use these sources (I found new ones) to support what I wrote: 1, 2, and 3. What do you think? Thanks, Yambaram (talk) 17:05, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:IRS, especially WP:SPS. Blogs are almost never acceptable as sources. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 17:25, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for these two links. Please keep in mind that almost never doesn't mean never. Please see this source. Is that one okay? Yambaram (talk) 17:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Nope. Blog posts are almost never acceptable as sources; please read the guideline to understand the very limited circumstances in which they are permitted. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 00:07, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

None of those sources are remotely reliable, and they are all the same source. A handful of people have launched a harassment and defamation campaign against the JIDF, its founder, and innocent people they are falsely accusing. I hope this is not an attempt to try to carry out that same campaign here on Misplaced Pages, as there are rules for reliable sources, and against OUTTING, and rules regarding BLP. --Bobhope101 (talk) 00:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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