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Lyndsey Turner

Hi, I am intrigued by your deletion of the article on Lyndsey Turner. It was fully referenced by strong, reliable sources. I am not contesting, just enquiring after this unusual move after an OTRS request. Thanks Span (talk) 22:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Email me please. Guy (Help!) 22:10, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Span (talk) 22:01, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

This article has been recreated, remarkably clean looking article for a new editorTheLongTone (talk) 13:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Jz, could you comment here? Thanks Span (talk) 01:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you both for the heads-up. I am not averse to a new article (the subject is just about encyclopaedic) but the "brand new user" is almost certainly an individual known to the subject and police. Guy (Help!) 10:02, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Given real world harassment of the subject, it's probably best to leave it for now. Span (talk) 15:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I have asked Ms. Turner to let us know when the issue is resolved, so we can review it then. Guy (Help!) 22:53, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

FYI this article just popped up.--PinkBull 02:53, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Holy Crow. This guy isn't giving up. Span (talk) 02:56, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi I know this is semi-old news as the article has been deleted and whatnot but what "real world harassment of the subject" and Guy asking Ms. Turner about the issue? What is this about? (if you don't mind me asking) LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:02, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

• WP:OTRS Spartaz 21:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

And that means...? LADY LOTUS • TALK 23:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

It means that the subject has emailed the Wikimedia Foundation's email repsonse volunteer team, and I am one of the email response volunteers. We're the folks who deal with hurt, angry people. Guy (Help!) 23:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Ya know I've done Wiki for a while and don't think I ever knew that that was a thing? What was she upset about? (Can I know?) LADY LOTUS • TALK 23:22, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't think I'd be giving much away if I was to say that someone has an unhealthy obsession (and not just with her, by the looks of it). Guy (Help!) 23:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Yea I'd definitely agree with that statement lol LADY LOTUS • TALK 23:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

It's appeared again, as Lyndsey Turner (British director)TheLongTone (talk) 14:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Fastest gun in the Wiki?TheLongTone (talk) 14:33, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Feel free to tidy up the SPI page Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Fairyspit, I don't do a lot of that (I just hit them with the trusty banhammer). Guy (Help!) 14:34, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Fighting the endless fight against sockpuppets!

	Sockpuppet Barnestar
	I wanted to thank you, Amalthea, and Callanecc for your help on the Fairyspit sockpuppet investigation. It's incredibly frustrating when a user won't stop and makes 12+ different accounts but it's nice to know I'm not the only one who knows he's doing it anymore. :) Happy editing. LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Well thank you! I do enjoy a game of whack-a-mole every now and then :-) Guy (Help!) 15:37, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

LOL yea it's a game now, challenge accepted! LADY LOTUS • TALK 16:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

See my entry here... Guy (Help!) 18:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for work on this. Span (talk) 23:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Accreditation and white washing by government addresses

I saw you are interested in accreditation and diploma mills. I was hoping you could provide input at the Cathy McMorris Rodgers page. Rodgers attended Pensacola Christian College in 1990, which was unaccredited until a few months ago (when TRACS approved it). There is plentiful sourcing, such as The Chronicle of Higher Education, about its unaccredited nature. I think when the article says she has a degree and gives the name of the school it should mention the school was unaccredited.

Given accreditation is so important to a school, it would be like saying a business someone worked for was never licensed or insured. Without mentioning the lack of accreditation, people will be misled and assume the institution is a normal, accredited school when it is not. RobinBnn (talk) 14:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

PS. A few days ago I logged nearly a dozen IPs that are from Washington DC and the government, which have been white washing the page, including the accreditation issue. You can see them listed here: Talk:Cathy_McMorris_Rodgers#Why_is_there_no_indication_of_her_political_positions_here.3F. RobinBnn (talk) 14:58, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Yesterday the article was added with a reference by the Washington Post that McMorris attended an unaccredited school. Now an editor's response is that it's inclusion is a "smear attempt" and now his goal is to stop readers from thinking "Rodgers received a substandard education" (Exchange at Talk:Cathy_McMorris_Rodgers#Education_Paragraph.)

Her residence, Washington state, makes it illegal to use a "fake of misleading" degree punishable by five years in prison, and specifically means accreditation (see the law here). I'm getting frustrated dealing with an editor who sees conspiracy and its trying to inject his POV on her quality of education. Any recommendations on what to do? RobinBnn (talk) 16:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The article's talk page is the only proper venue for this discussion. Guy (Help!) 18:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Question

Since you seem to be the go-to-guy about whitewashing lately, could I have your input here (if you have time)? Thanks. BlueSalix (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Ticket #2014013110000511

Did you forward that? I have Patrick's email if you need it. §FreeRangeFrog 18:47, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, already forwarded and closed. §FreeRangeFrog 19:04, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Cheers, mate. Guy (Help!) 00:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

American Conference on Diversity

You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:31, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Rollback on Chiropractic

I shouldn't have to remind an experienced admin like yourself that rollback is only appropriate for undoing problematic edits such as vandalism. Would you be kind enough to review your edit summary for this edit and confirm that you didn't use rollback (or any other tool that you possess as a consequence of being an admin) to revert what are unquestionably good-faith edits, please? Can I also remind you that courtesy to other users dictates that you indicate accurately the version of the article that you reverted to? Your talk page comment "I am rolling back to the point before your mass edit spree" falls short of that, as a glance at the history of Chiropractic will show you. Thanks in advance. --RexxS (talk) 02:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Of course I didn't. You can't roll back across multiple editors (QG plus bots). QuackGuru made dozens of problematic edits in defiance of consensus, it's absolutely standard WP:BRD. I'd be interested to hear who brought this up, since you have to be entirely ignorant of the way MediaWiki software works to make such a claim. Guy (Help!) 09:34, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry you can't just answer a reasonable question without personalising the discussion. Nevertheless, as you've started down that line: I brought it up and I'm pretty certain I know more about wikimedia software than you do. But this isn't a pissing contest. This is me querying what your actions actually were. It clearly wasn't rollback (as that allows no custom message) - so why did you use the term both in your edit summary and on the talk page? You would certainly confuse editors by misapplying the term. As we both know it wasn't rollback, you could have reverted to any point in the edit history, so let me ask you for a second time - what point in the edit history of Chiropractic did you revert to?

As you've raised the issue, there is no consensus to exclude WHO guidelines as a source (and it is used several times anyway), so you don't have "absolutely standard WP:BRD". I do agree that QG made far too many changes to review easily, but your wholescale revert also rejects any good edits he may have made - a classic case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It is also clearly counterproductive as you can see from QG's hurt responses. If you're really concerned about the article, you should be working with him to determine which, if any, of his changes were improvements and seeking a consensus. --RexxS (talk) 14:57, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Wrong venue. Talk:Chiropractic. Guy (Help!) 20:29, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

"While the purpose of article talk pages is to discuss the content of articles, the purpose of user talk pages is to draw the attention or discuss the edits of a user. Misplaced Pages is not a social networking site, and all discussion should ultimately be directed solely toward the improvement of the encyclopedia." Right venue. Still, if you want to evade answering reasonable questions about your edits, so be it. --RexxS (talk) 20:39, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Have you ever considered not lecturing people about doing things the way you think they should be done? I do not choose to discuss this article here any longer. Guy (Help!) 22:06, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Shall I assume you don't want to discuss your behaviour here either? If so feel free to have the last word. --RexxS (talk) 22:15, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

You can assume that I am 50 years old with a highly paid job, two adult sons, a reputation in my industry that has taken me to several continents, and that I devote most of my Misplaced Pages time to handling WP:OTRS tickets and related issues. In other words, you can assume that I think you are being obnoxious. Guy (Help!) 22:36, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

So you do want a pissing contest. Well I'm 61 years old with two adult children, comfortably retired from several very well-paid jobs, and have a world-wide reputation for educating arrogant assoles who think their shit smells of fresh linen. I intend to devote no more of my wiki-time to dealing with you. It's obvious that you neither recognise when you're being obstructive nor intend to reform from that. I'll leave it at that. --RexxS (talk) 23:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Then behave like one adult talking to another, not like one of the fucking teenagers around here. Guy (Help!) 00:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I was going to give up, but I sense the possibility that you might be willing to bury the hatchet. Ok Guy. I'd be pleased to talk to you as one grouchy old man to another :D. Thank you for the invitation. Would you like to draw a line under our exchanges and start again in a spirit of cooperation? If you tell me I have offended you, I'm willing to apologise sincerely. As a gesture of reconciliation, if you tell me the oldid of the article version that you'd like restored, I'll revert myself back to that version. How's that sound? Cheers --RexxS (talk) 02:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Per mail, we're all good now I hope. Sorry to be grouchy, the fault is all mine. I guess you get my perspective now, anyway we can thrash this out on the talk page. Pleasure doing business with you, sir. Guy (Help!) 09:14, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Xfd-privacy

Hi. The "courtesy blanked" template on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Lyndsey Turner (director) is a little confusing on the AfD log, as it's currently transcluding a random courtesy blanked template in the middle of other AfDs. Instead of using {{courtesy blanked}}, do you think you could consider using {{Xfd-privacy}} template instead? Thanks. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 19:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to change it. The template should not transclude, I think I used subst. I'm more concerned about the subject and handling the overspill of a real-world issue to Misplaced Pages, any help is always appreciated. Guy (Help!) 22:07, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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