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], calling people a racist is unacceptable; it's a personal attack, and treating your fellow editors that way could lead to you being blocked from editing. Please focus your work on the content and do not speculate on other editor's motivations. -- ] (]) 16:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC) ], calling people a racist is unacceptable; it's a personal attack, and treating your fellow editors that way could lead to you being blocked from editing. Please focus your work on the content and do not speculate on other editor's motivations. -- ] (]) 16:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

:::: @ ] - and is that OK that he is using you to gove me a warning? Why can he lie about me while i have some proves that he is ignorant. If he is not, than why is he deleting all the data about Poles only, not Serbs, not Russians, but only about Poles - the second largest group of WWII victims right after the Jews? @ ] - i called your data "white-supremacist" because it reminds me of Stormfront forum, where Americans try to make "Aryans" our of Slavic people, and deny the fact that Germans killed 2 million Poles and persecuted the whole nation. It was all race-based. Not politically-based. Race-based hate is called racism and Poles were one of the victims. I dont want to argue no more. I am tired. Do what you want, change it as you wish, you won. I am not strong enough to keep the truth and historical facts on Misplaced Pages. Go and write your own history. Bye. ] (]) 17:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for the deletion

Thanks for deleting the edits on my page. There is another one by the same user speculating on my real-world employment - would you be able to remove that one as well? StAnselm (talk) 03:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Found it. I have already emailed the oversight people, and someone should respond shortly. -- Diannaa (talk) 03:59, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Followup: User you blocked continues BLP violations in unblock request -- I've emailed oversight but if you're awake pls revoke talk privs. EEng (talk) 11:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for helping resolve this, I had already logged off. -- Diannaa (talk) 15:08, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Early Himmler photo

Diannaa: could you look at the suggested early photo of Himmler which Hoops recommended for use in Himmler's article to see if it can be used therein. You know free use/fair use issues MUCH better than myself. Thank you in advance for input, Kierzek (talk) 16:44, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Replied on your Talk. -- Diannaa (talk) 16:58, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 January 2014

Falkland Islands, small return

I mentioned that batch of Falkland Islands copy vios here, as an editor peripherally involved by restoring some of the bad copy has stated they wanting to get more involved in the pages again. As he was topic-banned for other reasons for the time we removed it, I thought I'd point it out so it's clear. I don't see that you'd have a strong opinion about this, but then I thought I should tell you on the chance you thought I framed it incorrectly there. __ E L A Q U E A T E 22:28, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I think your comment was fairly and accurately worded, and I will keep an eye on the discussion for further developments. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

GAN Backlog Drive Award

The Good Article Reviewer's Medal of Merit
For reviewing 3 Good article nominations during the December 2013 GAN Backlog Drive!--Dom497 (talk) 04:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Diannaa (talk) 19:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 January 2014

GOCE January drive

The Modest Barnstar
Thanks for copyediting a total of 5,040 words during the January 2014 backlog drive (and for your help with the barnstars)! All the best, Miniapolis 17:58, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Diannaa (talk) 19:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Complex regional pain syndrome

I have NO clue as to how to PM people on this stupid Misplaced Pages thing. Diana, please email me at exoskeleton aaaaaaaat gmx doooooot de. I would like to discuss the changes on the CRPS page with you. Parts of it are now a real mess for the sake of brevity.----rolander0001

Changes to the article should be discussed on the article talk page. Click on this link to go there: Talk:Complex regional pain syndrome. The reason your addition was trimmed for size is because it was too large, giving undue weight to one treatment, which would give the reader the impression that this one treatment is more important than the others. -- Diannaa (talk) 00:40, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For stopping a vandal within minutes of being reported. Thanks a lot! ミーラー強斗武 (talk) 02:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Diannaa (talk) 02:57, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

User:Yatzhek

Diannaa I was wondering if you can help me please, the user Yatzhek is continuing to revert an edit by themselves which is not correct and I have tried to create a talk section on the article and the users talk page but I am just getting personally attacked and the edit reverted back.

The two discussions can be found here Talk:Black_people_in_Nazi_Germany#Ethnic_Poles]] and User_talk:Yatzhek#Ethnic_Poles_were_Aryans.

I have given evidence that Poles were 'Aryan' but the user is continuing to reply without any genuine text or any sources and is reverting back to the article that is incorrect.

The reasons for the reverts can be found https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Black_people_in_Nazi_Germany&action=history and the user is not actually debating but rather just reverting back without any sources given, the source given does not state what the user is trying to keep into the article.

When providing evidence I am getting replies like "Please stop littering my wall with tons of information which you don't understand."here

Could you be willing to help please?--Windows66 (talk) 14:32, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Both of you need to be careful to not engage in WP:edit warring. It's better if the discussion takes place on the talk page of the article (not on a user talk page) as other interested editors are more likely to see the discussion. I am going to place an edit warring notice on both of your talk pages and I suggest you continue to try to talk to him about the edits, and if he persists, he will have to be reported for edit warring. The best thing you can do to further the discussion is to present multiple sources that back up your point. -- Diannaa (talk) 15:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I've reported the user to the noticeboard here for lack of cooperation and simply reverting the article and personal attacks such as:

"I have an irresistable feeling that you are trying to "steer" the historical truth. You are from England, so you are either anti-Polish racist and hate the fact that Poles suffered racial persecution in their own country, or you are Polish and strongly want to be a full-fledged member of the Stormfront forum. That's all. Thank you."

" How dare you discredit the Polish suffering during the Shoa by saying that Poles were treated as Aryans? https://en.wikipedia.org/Holocaust_victims - Hope you read the whole of my message and educate yourself. Thank you."

It might be nothing but I have noticed User:Tobby72 is doing exactly what User:Yatzhek is doing and copying and pasting material from one articles talk page to another, could you check these are not the same person please? I have a funny feeling it is.--Windows66 (talk) 16:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I have no way to check that for you, as I do not have WP:Checkuser rights. My feeling is that they are not the same person. If multiple people are telling you that you are wrong, it's best if you accept that you might be wrong, or at least that consensus is not with you. WP:Consensus. If you feel really strongly about an issue, there's WP:dispute resolution venues where you can try to get help. -- Diannaa (talk) 16:13, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Could just be a coincidence that both of them copied and pasted the same thing twice into different articles. Multiple people are not telling me that I am wrong about Poles being Aryan, the user Tobby72 does not seem to be agreeing with the user Yatzhek that Poles were "racially non-Aryan" in the slightest, nor that "only Germans were Aryans according to Nazi ideology" (words of Yatzhek), in fact Tobby72 does not dispute Poles were Aryan (not that I am aware of), they were put into the 'Aryan side' of ghettos, the ancestors passport mentioned Poles and no "racial theory" could be found against Poles to satisfy the Nazis racial theories. There doesn't seem to be any issue with other Misplaced Pages editors that Poles were Aryan but the user Yatzhek refuses to admit this and when evidence is given his/her way the user resorts to personal attacks and insults.--Windows66 (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

My opinion is that the level of personal attacks you are experiencing is not enough to warrant a block. We will see what other opinions are posted in your new thread at ANI. -- Diannaa (talk) 16:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

The personal attacks are continuing, I've placed it in the ANI complaint.--Windows66 (talk) 16:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

The user User talk:Windows66 is a person who is racist and antipolish. He deletes all the information about the sufferings of the Polish nation during the war. He is deleting the SOURCED information and replaces them with other subjective data, mostly from his own personal point of view. He is trying to deny the Polish struggle during the World War II. He is dangerous for Misplaced Pages, while he is trying to push his own personal views. The whole problem started when he deleted the information about Black people in Nazi Germany facing the similar struggles to Gypsies and Poles. What is interesting, it was me who places the information about Jews Gypsies and Poles there. What he did, is not reverting my edit, but simply deleted the "ethnic Poles" and littered by talk page with tons of white-supremacist data. I am not from an English-speaking country, but I try to talk here. Dear Diannaa, I'd like you to observe what is he deleting from the articles, because most of his time on Misplaced Pages de DELETES and does not add nothing except his unsourced self-based data. Now i see he was trying to slander me and my reputation and create your point of view on me. Please, do not judge me before you know my knowledge and my hope, that Misplaced Pages will stay a reliable source of information. User talk:Windows66 should be banned for what he does. Take care. Yatzhek (talk) 16:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't take kindly to being called a "racist" and I am NOT anti-Polish so stop saying both of these things. I only delete information that is not verified by academic genuine sources. I have showed you information on why the removal was necessary; on the basis of "race" no Nazi racial theory could be used for the discrimination against the ethnic Poles and they were racially regarded the same as Germans. The whole problem started with stuff like "non-Aryans along with Jews, Poles" being added into articles when firstly it is incorrect and secondly the source given does not even mention Poles. I deleted the "ethnic Poles" from the beginning because the racism against Poles was not 'race based' as they were essentially the same race as the Germans and the Nuremberg Laws classified Gypsies as race enemies which is why I left the text "Gypsies" still there.

Please show me where I have put any white-supremacist data into any article, talk page or anywhere on Misplaced Pages? This sort of stuff should not be taken lightly to say to another, please provide evidence of this. I AM DYING FOR YOU TO SHOW ME THIS.

If you actually went ahead and looked at my contributions, I have actually contributed to crimes against Poles by the Nazis.--Windows66 (talk) 16:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Yatzhek, calling people a racist is unacceptable; it's a personal attack, and treating your fellow editors that way could lead to you being blocked from editing. Please focus your work on the content and do not speculate on other editor's motivations. -- Diannaa (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

@ Diannaa - and is that OK that he is using you to gove me a warning? Why can he lie about me while i have some proves that he is ignorant. If he is not, than why is he deleting all the data about Poles only, not Serbs, not Russians, but only about Poles - the second largest group of WWII victims right after the Jews? @ Windows66 - i called your data "white-supremacist" because it reminds me of Stormfront forum, where Americans try to make "Aryans" our of Slavic people, and deny the fact that Germans killed 2 million Poles and persecuted the whole nation. It was all race-based. Not politically-based. Race-based hate is called racism and Poles were one of the victims. I dont want to argue no more. I am tired. Do what you want, change it as you wish, you won. I am not strong enough to keep the truth and historical facts on Misplaced Pages. Go and write your own history. Bye. Yatzhek (talk) 17:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)