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DYK for Nakayama Tadayasu

On 4 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nakayama Tadayasu, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Nakayama Tadayasu was exceptionally awarded the Order of the Chrysanthemum (pictured) in his own lifetime? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nakayama Tadayasu. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration decision on climate articles frowns on edit wars

You appear to be engaged in an WP:EDITWAR at List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming. Please see WP:ARBCC and note that discretionary sanctions are in effect for all climate related articles. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 06:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

A reply is here. Moonraker (talk) 02:04, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Emil Reich

On 5 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Emil Reich, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Emil Reich became well-known to London high society by giving lectures on Plato at Claridge's Hotel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Emil Reich. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Royal Naval College, Greenwich

I think you may be on the wrong path with categorising Royal Navy officers as "graduates" of the R.N.C. as from 1873 onwards all military branch officers had to pass through in order to reach the rank of Lieutenant, but they also had to go to Excellent and later Vernon in order to qualify for the rank. Having "Passed R.N.C." was just part of the process and to call them "graduates" seems an artificial label. Regards, —Simon Harley (Talk | Library). 07:53, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Purcell O'Gorman

On 9 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Purcell O'Gorman, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Irish nationalist Purcell O'Gorman was caricatured in Vanity Fair by "Ape" as "The Joker for Waterford"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Purcell O'Gorman. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 17:07, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for José Alves Correia da Silva

On 10 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article José Alves Correia da Silva, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Dom José Alves Correia da Silva ordered Sister Lúcia to write down the Third Secret of Fatima? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/José Alves Correia da Silva. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:39, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Lady Mary Clive

On 11 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lady Mary Clive, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lady Mary and her sister Pansy had few childhood friends as they wore such out-of-date clothes? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 08:05, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Lady Pansy Lamb

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Gatoclass (talk) 08:05, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Henry Koster (author)

On 16 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henry Koster (author), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Henry Koster's friend, the poet Robert Southey, encouraged him to write his Travels in Brazil? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Koster (author). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 08:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Royal Naval College, Greenwich

On 21 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Royal Naval College, Greenwich, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Queen Elizabeth II knighted Francis Chichester on the river steps of the Royal Naval College, Greenwich (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Royal Naval College, Greenwich. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Citation template

Hi Moonraker!

I noticed you recently removed a citation template from a couple references. I was just wondering, is there a problem with the template? I'm asking because I use that template frequently. Thanks! Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 15:17, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Wilhelm Meis! I admit I don't like the "Harvard" style template, which should really belong more in natural sciences than in an arts subject, but I wouldn't remove it where it had been used consistently. In Erasure (heraldry), a page I started, the citations followed a different pattern, so I removed it for consistency. By the way, I thought your additions and corrections were very useful. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Moonraker (talk) 15:28, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Very good, then. Alles klar. Danke! Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 03:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Request

I address this request to you because I notice that you have an interest the St Augustine's Abbey article. Would you be so kind as to take a look at my draft User:Vejlefjord/St. Aug's Abbey (Draft) as a possible replacement? I had intended to expand the present article and add inline citations, but I found that much of it is word-for-word the same as other web sites without citations. E.g., the whole first paragraph is the same as http://www.touristlink.com/england/st-augustine-s-abbey.html and http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/churches-in-kent-books-llc/1103418568?ean=9781157087199. That along with gaps in information and dearth of sources cited led me to draft a possible replacement. Please give me your thinking about the draft’s possibilities and what needs to be done?

I have fond memories of the 1956-57 academic year that I spent at St Augustine's College, Canterbury (as a student from the USA) when it served as the Central College of the Anglican Communion and before the College area and the Abbey ruins were separated as they are now. Yes, that makes me very old. Vejlefjord (talk) 17:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for you prompt reply. Of course you are welcome to edit my draft. I have just tried to improve the Queen Elizabeth paragraphs, but feel free to do more. (I no longer have access to the Judith Roebuck book.) Feel free to expand the dissolution of the monasteries while remembering the link to the full article and that the dissolution in only part of the abbeys article. When you have done your editing, please advise me how to use the draft in relation to the present article. Thanks again Vejlefjord (talk) 18:29, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Greetings and thanks for all your edits. You suggested more links so I have added three. Vejlefjord (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Thomas Paine

It seems that we both enjoy editing articles for clarity. I had reviewed the article on Thomas Paine and made quite a few edits a few weeks ago, and now I see your edits. I do not wish to get into an edit war, nor to upset you by reverting all of your edits in one "Undo" edit. I thought I would discuss them with you and see if we can come to an agreement. I feel that a few of your edits were an improvement, but I disagree with a number of them. On a few others I am not sure, and I am asking a fellow editor for his opinion on them.

On the edits you made in the section "Line 21", visible in "View history", I do not agree with any of them. I think you added words that were unnecessary, making the article less concise.

I think you unnecessarily changed "he" to "Paine" too many times. When there is no other single male person mentioned nearby, it is clear that "he" is "Paine".

In the sentence describing his pamphlet "The Age of Reason", you changed "that advocates..., promotes..., and argues" to "advocating..., promoting..., and arguing". I think that here (not always), the direct tense is clearer and more elegant than the present participle. The only thing I would change is "advocates..., promotes..., and argues" to "advocated..., promoted..., and argued" (I realize they should be in past tense).

I do not think the word "the" is necessary before "debtors' prison".

"British writer Edmund Burke" is correct. "The" is not necessary before "British writer".

Paine "became deeply involved" in the French Revolution is better than "Paine became a participant" for two reasons: 1) "became deeply involved in" is much more interesting than "became a participant in". 2) When there is a choice between using a verb (or verb form) and a noun, the verb (or verb form) is usually the better choice. You could change "became a participant in" to "participated in", but that does not give any idea of the degree to which he participated, as the other phrase does.

"Firing", that is, "being fired", is American English. "Dismissal", meaning "firing", is British English. To most American ears, "dismissal" means when a teacher dismisses his or her students at the end of class or at the end of the school day. It is true that Paine was born in England. However, he was a major figure in the American War of Independence (or American Revolution), so I suggest the American "firing" or "fired" be used.

If I find any other things, I'll add them here. Do you feel strongly about the changes you made? Let's discuss. – CorinneSD (talk) 19:39, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Not seeing any reply, I undid all of your recent edits to Thomas Paine, and then made a few individual edits, generally reflecting those of your edits that I felt were constructive.CorinneSD (talk) 20:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Move of SI (UK) to SI (GB)

Could you revert this move? I think it deserves some serious discussion at the very least.

Statutory instruments in the UK are a UK-wide concept, that is why they are referred to as "UK Statutory Instruments", see: . What is more many of the SI's have effect throughout the whole of the UK. The first listed there is an example of such an SI. They are almost all made by the UK Parliament and are UK instruments not "Great Britain" instruments. While NI has statutory rules, they are complementary to, not supplementary of, UK-wide SI's. Just as Acts of the Scottish Parliament run alongside UK Acts. Francis Davey (talk) 16:28, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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Idiomatic

Nice to see your name pop up on my watchlist. Please - if you have time - look at Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme (in progress), for translation of Frewdenspiegel and the like, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:54, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! - "deß" is in wikisource, - should that be changed? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

A difficult call! For me, it depends on the context. If a title (or a name) containing "ß" appears surrounded by English text, then I prefer the double "s". If it's part of a passage quoted in German, then it's better to leave it. This is quite an old-fashioned approach, today's scholars seem to veer away from any form of anglicanization. Moonraker (talk) 00:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

also here and here, FrewdenSpiegel ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:29, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I also found "FrewdenSpiegel". It looks so odd, but perhaps slightly less odd to a British or American eye than to a German one? If it's really the way the title was spelt, then I suppose for consistency we should use it. Moonraker (talk) 00:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

It looks odd to us but that's the feel for the different time ;) - thanks for your improvements! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Princes of Wales line of succession

Do you mind if this is deleted? Bearian (talk) 17:41, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Not much. My main reservation is that the tables in it are useful, and someone has put quite an effort into creating them, so I have copied them to Talk:Prince of Wales. Moonraker (talk) 08:40, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

What next?

Thanks for your edits to User:Vejlefjord/St. Aug's Abbey (Draft). What next? I don’t know what is proper under Misplaced Pages rules. Vejlefjord (talk) 23:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme

On 15 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Philipp Nicolai wrote the hymn "Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme", the base for Bach's cantata, after the plague hit his hometown? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 15:48, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Indemnity Act 1717

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DYK nomination of William Murray, 2nd Lord Nairne

Hello! Your submission of William Murray, 2nd Lord Nairne at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Sorry, you are going to hate me reviewing any of your nomination at this rate! I'm just not 100% sure about the image license so have asked Crisco to have a look - nothing else wrong with the nomination that I can see though; I also like doing historical articles from around that era! SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:13, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Drayson

On 20 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robert Drayson, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that when Richard Branson left high school at 16, his headmaster Robert Drayson predicted he would "either go to prison or become a millionaire"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Robert_Drayson. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for this not getting posted. It may have been my fault for forgetting to add the DYKMake entry to the prep area (I'm fairly new at this). As for changing the hook, I needed a light/humorous hook for the last place, and the quip to Branson seemed ideal. However, both versions had some issues with wikilinks inside quotes, the first was awkward, and the second ALT1 proposed by you, although better, didn't refer to the article topic by name. So I rewrote it, and quite likely took one too many liberties with "high school", for which I also apologise. I would note, though, that "high school" does seem to be equivalent to "secondary school" in pretty much the entire English-speaking world outside of England and Wales, and even in England the term seems to be falling into use (eg here). -Kieran (talk) 17:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for William Cooke (clergyman)

On 26 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Cooke (clergyman), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that William Cooke gave Selwyn College "five thousand rare, valuable, and useful patristic, liturgical, and other works"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Cooke (clergyman). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for William Murray, 2nd Lord Nairne

On 28 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Murray, 2nd Lord Nairne, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lord Nairne was one of the first to rally to the cause of the Old Pretender (pictured) in the Jacobite rising of 1715? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Murray, 2nd Lord Nairne. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Harrias 12:02, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Indemnity Act 1717

On 29 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Indemnity Act 1717, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a medal by John Croker marked the Act of Grace of 1717, which freed from prison hundreds of Jacobites, but not quite all? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Indemnity Act 1717. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Harrias 12:02, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for John Croker (engraver)

On 29 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Croker (engraver), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a medal by John Croker marked the Act of Grace of 1717, which freed from prison hundreds of Jacobites, but not quite all? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Harrias 12:02, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Categorisation of Anglican priests: RFC as followup to CFD

You contributed to the debate at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 November 2#Category:English_Anglican_priests, which I have closed today as "no consensus". (This notice is being sent all participants in that debate.)

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Good of you to let me know, have said something there. Moonraker (talk) 01:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Francis Fletcher (clergyman)

On 16 January 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Francis Fletcher (clergyman), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Francis Fletcher made a map of "Elizabeth Iland" (pictured) while travelling around the world with Sir Francis Drake? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Francis Fletcher (clergyman). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Gibraltar general election, 1988

Thanks for this! :) --Gibmetal 77 12:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, are you planning on covering any more Gib elections? --Gibmetal 77 13:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I'll try to do some more, if no one else gets there first. A surprising gap in our good coverage of Gibraltar! Moonraker (talk) 14:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, I would really appreciate the help! I've added them to the WikiProject's to-do list as a way of keeping track of them. Cheers! --Gibmetal 77 12:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Re: Mark Versallion

Thank you. Will do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PtolemyA (talk • contribs) 19:29, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Franz von Papen

Hi Moonraker. Well - I am a heritage speaker of German so maybe I am inclined to do this. If you'd like to edit out von Papen, I have no qualms with that. Otherwise, I am not sure it negatively impacts the article in any way. I do think it is akin to Sir Walter Raleigh and the like. I would not feel editing out "Sir" Raleigh would be worthwhile, appropriate, or necessary. It's usage merely connotes aristocracy. I know Brits have a hard time imagining that such a thing existed/exists with regard to Germans but it did and it still does. Papen is certainly easier when starting a sentence. If for consistency's sake you feel obliged to edit it, then by all means, do so. It could be edited in either direction. If you take it to task...let me know. :-)

Imperial Civil Service

Hi, on 6 January you moved Imperial Civil Service to Indian Civil Service (British India). Your edit summary was "correct name can be disambiguated if needed, no reason to invent new name!" and it confuses me. The outfit was indeed known as the Imperial Civil Service and it replaced the earlier Covenanted Civil Service of India operated by the East India company & reformed by Macaulay in the 1830s. I think that the change to Imperial Civil Service came about after the Aitchison Commission report in the mid-1880s but I'll have to dig out my books to verify the precise timing. The Imperial Civil Service was one of a three-pronged administrative set-up that also included the Provincial Civil Service and the Subordinate Civil Service.

All of the above is easily verifiable and indeed I think much of it is already cited in the article. Yes, the article needs some clarification but if you were assuming that "Imperial Civil Service" was a made-up name in order to distinguish the Raj period from that of independent India then I think you were misguided. - Sitush (talk) 13:38, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Reply is on your talk page. Moonraker (talk) 22:06, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

shut the fuck up

dont worry about the khalsa.

the khalsa does not need your approval. the khalsa does not live in your world.

do your fucking work, this is fucking wikipedia, the game is much bigger than this you rat.