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I've amended your edit at ]. I think that the phrase is "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" but, regardless, "revolutionism" is an awkward word and one that isn't much used. Hopefully, "acts of violence against the state" does the job in the specific context. I'm still developing the article, so there will be rough spots for a week or two. As always, it'll never actually be finished! - ] (]) 18:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC) I've amended your edit at ]. I think that the phrase is "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" but, regardless, "revolutionism" is an awkward word and one that isn't much used. Hopefully, "acts of violence against the state" does the job in the specific context. I'm still developing the article, so there will be rough spots for a week or two. As always, it'll never actually be finished! - ] (]) 18:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

== Controversy sections ==

I find it interesting that you seem to be targeting Congress politics articles with muck-raking controversy sections, mostly based on press-reported allegations (which are two-a-penny in India and generally never end up as a court case etc). ] and ] are the obvious ones. You clearly do not understand how we deal with these issues in relation to living people, so I suggest that you discuss more and edit less in this sphere until you have a better handle on things. In any event, you are ] at the latter of those linked articles and you'll likely be ] from contributing if you continue in the same vein. - ] (]) 21:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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June 2012

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August 2012

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Please discuss this on the article's talk page. Callanecc (talkcontribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 12:26, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

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I have reverted half of your edit please see the article's talk page Talk:Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. Also note that carrying on an edit war straight after page protected has expired without attempting to discuss is not appropriate behaviour and may lead to an eventual block. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 04:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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Devyani Khobragade

The page was not being "removed". It was retitled. Indeed your incomplete reversion of the redirect left the talk page still pointing to the new title (which is why I am replying here). The issue is being discussed in the deletion discussion. Your actions are undermining focused discussion at the deletion page. Paul B (talk) 16:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Kakadesi, please do not recreate the article at Devyani Khobragade until the AfD discussion, presently at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Devyani Khobragade closes and consensus develops about where the article should be and what it should be titled, if it isn't deleted. There are also issues with copy and paste moves, the content on the page at present lacks attribution and the page should not have been created in such a manner, such behaviour can cause issues that may in future require the pages to be merged to ensure each editor is correctly attributed. Finally, please familiarise yourself with WP:3RR and WP:EW policies - further reverts to Devyani Khobragade will result in you being blocked from editing. Nick (talk) 16:55, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Also, the image you have uploaded is clearly copyrighted, so cannot be uploaded with that license. Paul B (talk) 16:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

I guess we were discussing about the page "Devyani Khobragade" not "Devyani Khobragade incident" for which discussion is going on. Also, there is absolutely enough content for creation of individual page for "Devyani Khobragade" and it should not depend on keeping/deleting of "Devyani Khobragade incident".--KakaDesi 17:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

And the file i uploaded is being used by all the news agencies and if it is copyrighted, then please mention who holds its copyrights --KakaDesi 17:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Kakadesi, I created both pages Devyani Khobragade & Devyani Khobragade incident and I moved Devyani Khobragade to the other page since there is an on-going discussion for AfD. Even though I created the article, I don't hold a right to just go and restore it like that so all I am requesting you is please be patient. Moreover, there are specific guidelines for new pages and it is NOT upto me or you to decide if an article should be on Misplaced Pages or not. Lastly, it is the users responsibility to take notice of copyright, know about it and use it appropriately. Please update yourself on the same. Apologies if I spoke out of turn. Cheers AKS

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I don't need to know who holds the copyright. That's not how it works. We have to give evidence that it is not in copyright (which is very unlikely). The article changed its title, which is why your incompetent cut-and-paste recreation left the talk page pointing to the new title. The AFC discussion includes debate about whether a stand alone article is legitimate, which, IMO is unlikely per standard notability criteria. Paul B (talk) 17:08, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

I guess you should give your humble opinion only when asked, i agree it is a copy paste work. If she was arrested then whats wrong in taking the arrest paragraph from the incident page with references? Misplaced Pages is completely based on references, so according to you everything written in wikipedia is a work of copy paste ?--KakaDesi 17:16, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

The copyright is owned by the UK Government under Crown Copyright, as stated on the page the image was taken from (and attributed to) by the newspaper you took the image from. If you care to visit http://www.chevening.org/ you will see it quite clearly states Crown Copyright. It doesn't state Creative Commons there, nor on the newspaper website you lifted the image from. You need to slow down and listen to what you're being told, Kakadesi, there are processes and policies to be followed, ignoring them all is only going to result in you being blocked, I'm afraid.Nick (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Nick, don't give be threats of being blocked, i am using wikipedia maybe since you were not even born. I know how community based projects work. You are a community volunteer and you better know your limits.--KakaDesi 17:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't a threat. He's just pointing out policies. I guess Nick must be just be approaching his teens if you have been using Misplaced Pages since before he was born. He's a remarkable confident writer for one so young Paul B (talk) 17:41, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Kakadesi, If I were you, I would be more subtle in my approach, esp when you have only 146 total edits and Nick has over 18,000 edits. Take it easy else for sure one day some admin will block you. Misplaced Pages is open for all but that does not mean it does not have any rules. I have over 7,500 edits myself but even today my edits get reverted. We should not take it personally, just an advice. Cheers AKS

Kapil Sibal

Hello user, I appreciate all your edit efforts. Your recent edit on Kapil Sibal does not depict anything about him. I think you're putting about Kapil Sibal not incidents. Controversy section you've added have nothing to do with person also it seems like an incident. Since it's encyclopedia you need to add proved things only. Thanks again, well wishes --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  08:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi 25 Cents FC, last time i checked, wikipedia was a platform for encouraging free voice and it shall remain the same. All edits i made are backed with solid references, so there is no chance of ambiguity. Also i want to clarify i do not belong to/endorse any political party, as a wikipedia volunteer its my job is to let the readers know all the facts and decide by themselves.

  • Don't be in any misconception that wikipedia is/was a platform for encouraging free voice. It's an encyclopedia and no place for personal views(you've to prove what you claim through reliable sources. I'm no to against your edits and don't get offended if it's reverted. It's just that add those things which are completely real than just allegations. For example, a lot of things happens to person's life everyday but we can't add them all here at wikipedia. I'm listing few flaws on Controversies section.

25 Cents FC:These are not about his personal life, all these allegations were made on the actions he did while holding his office of telecom minister and hr minister. Every public servant is accountable for his actions which he performs using power given to him by democracy. I wish you had known that. --KakaDesi 20:51, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Swami Agnivesh Controversy

  • It says "Swami Agnivesh was seen in a phone conversation with Sibal and told something in context to activist Anna Hazare".. now this line need to be added on Swami Agnivesh article in Controversy part. It depicts nothing about Kapil Sibal (it was if it's Sibal who called Swami Agnivesh and told something in context to activist Anna Hazare) I hope you are getting what I'm trying to describe.
  • Neither of your reference proves what you've mentioned.

25 Cents FC :Please read the 4th paragraph of http://www.firstpost.com/politics/expose-did-swami-agnivesh-betray-team-anna-71576.html . I used the exact words --KakaDesi 20:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Internet Censorship

  • You wrote "His move to regulate internet content was strongly criticized across many social networking sites like Facebook, Twitter and Google+." But reference says "The Indian government has asked Internet companies and social media sites like Facebook to prescreen user content from India and to remove disparaging, inflammatory or defamatory content before it goes online."
  • You've added exactly opposite of what your reference says.

25 Cents FC: Please read http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/05/india-asks-google-facebook-others-to-screen-user-content/ and http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/social-media/Kapil-Sibal-under-attack-Twitter-Facebook-users-target-him/articleshow/11018300.cms?referral=PM and tell me what it summarises.--KakaDesi 20:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

In 2G spectrum scam

  • "During his tenure as Telecom Minister his comment about the loss in the 2G spectrum scam being only notional and causing "zero loss" created a public outcry and he had to clarify it later" how it become a controversy if he clarified ?
  • Also there is no mention of 2G scam in source.

25 Cents FC : I didn't even write it, you are trying to be smart and making this article an advert for kapil sibal. Please check the history of article and see who wrote it. But whoever has written it, its true and has references.--KakaDesi 20:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I again request you to add only those content which are truthful and proved. You are adding exact opposite. As of now, I'm going to revert, you can revert it back only with the help true sources. Thanks and well wishes.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  19:43, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Yashpal

I've amended your edit at Yashpal. I think that the phrase is "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" but, regardless, "revolutionism" is an awkward word and one that isn't much used. Hopefully, "acts of violence against the state" does the job in the specific context. I'm still developing the article, so there will be rough spots for a week or two. As always, it'll never actually be finished! - Sitush (talk) 18:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Controversy sections

I find it interesting that you seem to be targeting Congress politics articles with muck-raking controversy sections, mostly based on press-reported allegations (which are two-a-penny in India and generally never end up as a court case etc). Kapil Sibal and Pratibha Patil are the obvious ones. You clearly do not understand how we deal with these issues in relation to living people, so I suggest that you discuss more and edit less in this sphere until you have a better handle on things. In any event, you are edit warring at the latter of those linked articles and you'll likely be blocked from contributing if you continue in the same vein. - Sitush (talk) 21:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)