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Barton in the Beans

Funnily enough!!! I shall be within a few miles of that village on Friday, if I am finished in time I may swing around that way with the camera, as it would be amusing to take a photograph for the page wouldn't it. Personally tonight to coin an old English metaphor I am "full of beans" just wondering where to edit next to achieve a maximum result - any suggestions.... I feel a song coming on. Giano | talk 19:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

As I said full of beans, what do you make of this edit then. Never a dull moment is there? Giano | talk 21:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to type with 100% confidence that Bunchofgrapes is slightly tired of your attitude as well. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I think Giano is bringing up a valid issue for you to consider, EE: anybody you nominate for admin *is* obviously going to have a cloud of suspicion form immediately around them; it's rather a disservice for you to nominate them. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

That doesn't quite answer my question. But thank you for ranting. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

• What exactly is your question dear, you're even less coherent than usual this evening Giano | talk 21:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Please. I never even asked a question, I just realized. Coherent? Who says I'm never coherent? Only people who have nothing better to do than rant and place nonsense on Misplaced Pages. Do us a favour and get a job, feed the kids, and deprive the community of your random baloney. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I apologize to Bunchofgrapes for all of this. I wouldn't have to bother you if Giano would just stop. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

EE, could you do me a favor and stop edit-warring over the EE/HW link in the RfA? You have already admitted here that you were Hollow Wilerding; further fighting over that is unneccessary. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, stalking, I see (and it's evident). No, I didn't admit it, I implied it. Hollow Wilerding was operated by two persons. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:25, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

If you don't believe that it was operated by two people, then you might want to speak with Merlin. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Please go read Misplaced Pages:Harrassment, particularly the section on "wikistalking".

The term "wiki-stalking" has been coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor.

This does not include checking up on an editor to fix errors or violations of Misplaced Pages policy, nor does it mean reading a user's contribution log; those logs are public for good reason. The important part is the disruption - disruption is considered harmful.

In other words, checking up on your contributions is OK -- and sensible, given how disruptive your various incarnations have been at one time or another -- while following someone around making annoying edits on articles they are working on is bad.

As for whether one or another of you puppet accounts was operated by one, two, or fifteen people: who cares? The result is the same. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

What is wrong with you? No, it is not the same. Fifteen different people is not one person. And no, constantly consistently looking at my contributions is wikistalking. Period. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Both your reading comprehension and your grasp of common sense are seemingly faulty. If you were one of the two people who ran Hollow Wilerding, then you must be prepared to take responsibility for anything the account did. That responsibility may be shared jointly with some other party (if you say so), but you both then share full joint responsibility. You were both Hollow Wilerding for all intents and purposes. As for your incorrect definition of "wikistalking", all I can say is that you should go read Misplaced Pages:Harrassment again until you get it. If you edit on Misplaced Pages, you shouldn't mind people examining your contributions. I sure don't. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Blah blah blah. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

In general, I'm sick of your obnoxious excuses and immature piling-up. This will be all. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• Does that mean she's gone again? Giano | talk 07:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Question? If Eternal Equinox admitted to also being Hollow Wilerding -- a banned user -- shouldn't Eternal Equinox be blocked for being a sockpuppet of H.W., and all her IP addresses be banned from editing Misplaced Pages per Misplaced Pages official policy? HeyNow10029 03:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hollow Wilerding isn't banned -- just notorious. The account hasn't even been blocked since around January 22, 2006. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

HeyNow, I have replied on your page. Bishonen | talk 09:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC).

I checked and s/he hasn't violated the 3RR... yet. S/he is editing disruptively however. - FrancisTyers · 16:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

===] reported by User:~~~===
] violation on {{Article|S. A. Andrée's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897}}. {{3RRV|Eternal_Equinox}}: 
* Previous version reverted to:  
* 1st revert: 
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* 4th revert: 

I'm going out, if s/he reverts again, feel free to use the template I part filled out above, if not feel free to delete it :) - FrancisTyers · 16:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

You missed the fact that 22:36, June 7, 2006 (your "original") has elements reverting to EE's version from 20:13, May 21, 2006. EE is in violation already. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Some of us remember that the troubles with HW weren't the offenses but the block evasion. Sitting at a library in Canada and getting every terminal blocked one after another, anything at all to avoid serving the sentence. I suppose we'll see rather a tedious repeat now with this totally different user EE. Geogre 12:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

A small cadeau

Block log

The sound of three people snapping. Bishonen | talk 20:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC).

Mine's longest! I win! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I bake your parding. Quickest thinker wins. Bishonen | talk 21:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC).

Everybody's a winner! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I thought the shortest one won? ++Lar: t/c 03:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

More of a moral victory. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

If shortest won, I won. If longest, Bunch won. If quickest, Bish won. Hence the "all winners" scenario. Except EE, who has complicated matters by block evasion, cursing, making threats, and generally the type behavior which got her/him/them blocked to begin with. KillerChihuahua 20:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

/me casually blows smoke away from the Smith & Wesson, sticks it back in belt. Actually, the first person to notice and remark on the threeway tie wins. Bishonen | talk 20:19, 11 June 2006 (UTC).

Well, according to , it was a case of pure innocence and big blue meanies misunderstanding "pickiness" for moronia and persistence for vandalism. The beat(ing) goes on, and one wonders why it's worth anyone's time. If there were a fulcrum, with all the good done on one side and all the aggravation, destruction, and lying on the other, the beam would knock a hole in the ground deeper than Loch Ness. Geogre 03:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: You signature

Perhaps this is better? I nearly halved the length.--digital_me 04:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Food

How come I don't see you have ever touched one of the most important food articles on Misplaced Pages? the iBook of the Revolution 19:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

What an awful article! I don't know, I'm missing out. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Now I remember...

Thanks, Highway! Very gracious of you. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Food 2

Hi Bunch, I was looking at the FA page and noticed the food section has significantly lower number of featured articles than others (with the exception of the psychology section)... couldn't help but wonder why it is so unloved, considering its importance as one of the basic necessities of our life.

Btw, as the one who has worked on Butter and Cheese, I thought you might be interested in improving Milk. The article has a lot of space for improvement, in my view. --BorgQueen 20:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi BorgQueen! Boy you've been quiet lately!

Yeah, I've looked at Milk a few times. It's not good, that's for sure. Also perhaps it should be split into Milk (biology) and Milk (food and drink) or something like that. Maybe not. Speaking of food, how come you haven't put Durian through Peer Review or up on FA? You're not having perfectionism issues, are you? ;-)

Why aren't there more Food and Drink FAs? Luck of the draw, maybe? I suppose it could be something more -- food articles tend to attract casual editors who add lots of uncited material, Original Research, and bad writing that you then have to deal with (it's no coincidence that my three food FAs were pretty small articles before I got to them, you know!). Fancruft articles have a similar problem, but they are a lot easier to clean up, since there's generally no actual research or scholarship on fancruft topics. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes I've been pretty busy offline. A new person came into my life and am living with him now. A real challenge, since we are from radically different background (he happens to be a Pakistani who "speaks" hip hop) but then life is full of small challenges..

Thanks for the sage advice for Food FA matter. As for our smelly but precious Durian, I know it won't reach FA status without nutritional info and am trying to fix it. Since I know what to do for now I suppose it would be more appropriate to submit Peer Review request after having done something about it. Congrats for the new shiny star — btw don't they have any "wiki sage" barnstar? :-D --BorgQueen 22:27, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, congratulations on your new person! A hip-hop speaking Pakistani sounds like he's from a radically different background than... pretty much everyone on earth?! :-) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

You mean...

...apart from his entire conduct for the 18 months or so since I've been aware of his existence? Don't misunderstand. I really couldn't give a shit if Dreamguy dies of cancer of the ego. I do give a shit that no admin or sysop has made any serious attempt to make him behave like a decent human being (what have you personally done to try and bring any of his type of playground bully into line? I'm just curious). Actually, strike that. I'm quite a way beyond giving a shit about whether anyone is prepared to address the disease that is eating WP from the inside out. Icundell 21:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

What a lovely person you seem to be! Anybody could tell from your charming prose that you're a real pleasure to work with. I know, I know, it's somehow DreamGuy's fault. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Well I suppose you could try the novel approach of checking the facts, rather than wondering what 'seems' to be. I realise that would entail exercising a little responsibility to go with the Admin authority and that it wouldn't be quite so easy to come to such a lazy conclusion, but on the upside you might learn what all those dead Greek blokes were on about. Icundell 15:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Italia victorious

So cruel. Giano knows that if he gives an American a chance to make fun of socc..er..football, the American will rise to the bait. (Help me out here, which was more boring, the 1-0 own-goal England/Paraguay debacle, or the 0-0 Sweden/Trinidad-and-Tobago tie?) And that once I do rise to the bait, I'll be looked down upon as a dumb basketball-and-pro-wrestling-loving 'merican. Well it worked. Some advice for the Swedish team in future games: try to kick the ball through the other team's goal, it makes for a more exciting game. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, well, why does the building Giano gave you have a Danish flag in its window? Or is that just four different people surrendering? There is actually a world cup worth watching: the women's World Cup. Now that's soccer! Finesse rather than brute strength, passes instead of divot-making-contests, and beautiful women "glowing." Wow. Oh, and most of the players are Tarheels. Geogre 03:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

That's the Cross of Saint Geogre, silly! Apparently the Brits have grown weary of their old flag, or something. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 14:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

The Cross of Saint Geogre? Wow. I've interceded in a number of Wiki-disputes, but I don't think any have resulted in miracles. Geogre 15:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

You know what will be a miracle? Getting those jackanapes to stop with this "footnotes must be used and must have my favorite code in them." As intemperate as I was, it was all I could do to not start using very short, very Anglo-Saxon words. Geogre 21:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Cýse! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Look, just let them de-FA all our pages - what will they have to put in their place. Pokemon princesses and pages on pop videos, do you really think that will be allowed to happen? Giano | talk 21:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree! Or worse... Maybe some tripe about the glories of Forza Italia or whatever your sorry team is named... ++Lar: t/c 22:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I suppose Giano is right, but then what they'll choose to replace them with will be Tony's efforts and extensively referenced, with footnotes that blink and have sound effects, articles on "memes." Memes! Don't we all love those bleedin' memes! (And Lar, you're overcrediting them, there. They'll be articles on individual footballers, aged 20, and their vast "careers" and "cultural import." They'll be on "glamour models" (i.e. mammary freaks and silicone sisters), with lots of references that blow their noses at the reader. Geogre 22:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

That may well be the case, so ultimatly the encyclopedia's loss; but I for one only write an FA once, I may add some more information if I discover it, but I am not trooping back to the library (who knows who one may meet!) to re-reference a page, as for me passing FA is the end of the subject. Giano | talk 06:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Tearing through your watchlist?

Heh, you should see my watchlist! I'm in a rush to get it done, tho, as you can imagine. Nothing like vandals calling your fellow editor's employers to make you start thinking about privacy issues! BD2412 T 02:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Autostereogram

Hey hey! I was just wondering about this being moved to 'failed' status when the comments on the FAC page only indicate weak objects based on specific issues which are still being changed. FredHsu has made it clear that he is addressing the issues. Is it that there is a specific timeframe that these things have to be dealt with in? Thanks. Skittle 17:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure what the procedure tended to be. Skittle 18:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey Bunchofgrapes. I know the nomination has been archived, but I continued to enhance it and to add inline citations. I believe it is now done. I'll try to nominate it myself next time. How long should I wait? Please see updated comments on the Review page Fred Hsu 02:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Waaaaaaaaah!

I am SO Queen Elizabeth! Yes I am! Liz 06:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC).

More Boudicca I would have said. Giano | talk 08:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Very well, that will do. As long as I'm treated like a queen and whatever I say goes and Liz admits I'm the only person in the world. Bishonen | talk 09:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC).

• Well unfortunatly for Your Majesty I fear the pretender to your throne is still a long way from abdicating and even further from exile. Sometimes I wonder if the French did not have the right idea after all. Giano | talk 10:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Why are you vandalised so often? You must encourage it somehow. I'd never heard of tea bagging before. Some odd habits sound quite engaging, if one has a willing partner, and even less likely the time; but that one sounds very uncomfortable, make my eyes water just thinking about the possibilities of injury, but at least one learns something new here - must be an American habit. You know there are some very odd people about this place - yes, I have just realised! Anyhow I'm off to bed, the hours of darkness are upon us! Have a restful evening, it must be about time for the first martini in Idaho. I'd drink it if I were you. Giano | talk 21:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• I suppose if I said I found that particular vandalism riotously funny, it would only encourage more of the same? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• Nothing funny about that, I'm still sitting here with crossed legs! - must try to uncross and go upstairs, g'night! Giano | talk 21:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me.

Sorry to bother you. This userUser:ForestH2 still bothering me. I'm innocent, but he is guilty. Because He still send me offensive message. So could you block him for uncivility? *~Daniel~* 03:50, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I just asked him a question on his talk page; I'm trying to figure out what's going on. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Let's me explain how this is happned. First, I don't know this user. This user just take care of my business. Ask me so many questions that I did in Misplaced Pages. It's very inappropriate message. That's the reason I don't accept this offensive message. When I ask about something in other's talk-page. He always asks me Why did you ask this question to them. He suddenly struggled. Later, He also edits my own page without my permission. How Upset about that. *~Daniel~* 03:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

And-Daniel your removing messages. You've already vandalized a couple of pages. You've broken the 3RR. And I don't take care of your busniess. I've already told you-I ask you so many questions because I don't believe that you have some of these warnings under control. You should be 'blocked for violating teh 3RR and removing messages. I edit your user page to fix some grammer of yours which is not the best. I didn't write an offensive message to you-I just gave you a warning for removing warnings and messages from your talk page. You need to stop putting "Please ignore this message" and use the right vandalisim warning templates. I reported you to the admins. And I will request arbatration as I have had it. ForestH2

helios

I planned on creating a full page, but I guess I could make it on the High School's page, as it does make more sense. mikey 03:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Courage

Brave man! Giano | talk 18:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I know. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

What is it with that damn game show? It has people who just can't live with its not being at the page for the debtor's district. Geogre 21:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

We're just lucky they aren't trying to replace the contents of the page. A lot more people look for cruft information than for non-cruft, I'm afraid. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

ok

this place is screwy. how the hell do i know it's right. and you call yourself an encylopedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Briticanna (talk • contribs) 18:29, June 20, 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Bigfoot

Gawd. Bishonen | talk 19:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC).

And you voted against him. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Seen/Appreciate

Seen the reminder. Will comply. Do humbly apologise for error. Martial Law 20:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Deliberate vandal or merely stupid?

Oh look we have little Polly Chuckle back with us. How much longer has this community to endure this woman? Giano | talk 21:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and why have you a picture of a bandaged appendage on your page, is it syphilis week or something? Giano | talk 21:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

You should have told them about that before they made it a featured picture! I think I see what you mean. You've ruined it for me. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I studied first aid in the army, I am never mistaken. I was a trained stretcher bearer but I could have been a surgeon you know, had it not been for my eyesight. Giano | talk 22:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Loren Coleman

Reason I placed Loren's link is that he is a well known Bigfoot expert. Seen him on many documentaries. Link is www.lorencoleman.com. Hope I was not in error. Martial Law 22:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you re-insert Loren Coleman's website ? Martial Law 06:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

RE: Fraudulent

Misplaced Pages rules CLEARLY state that if there are ACTIONABLE objections an article should NOT be given FA status. What is so hard to understand about this? The rules were VIOLATED. Explain to me how they were not. Is this a NPOV website or is it not??? What are the rules for FA status???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jayzel68 (talk • contribs) .

Cornell

As you know, your alma mater Cornell University is up for FAC. I've just completed by freshmen year there, majoring in Computer Science. The other editors and I would like to request a copyedit. Not only are you familiar with the material and could clarify any confusing statements, but you would be a fresh look on the article prose. Also, further comments or a vote on the FAC would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -mercuryboard ♠ 00:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Please do not point out articles relating to Misplaced Pages standards

...when it is clear standards here are selectively followed. Thanks. --Jayzel 21:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I called it vandalism because you even deleted the history of my addition. You did not just revert. That's a "no-no".--Jayzel 21:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what? You must be misreading something; I did no such thing, nor would I even think of it. Article history here —Bunchofgrapes (talk)

If you were not responsible for the deletion in the history, then my apologies to you. It was clearly removed by someone, but appears now to have been re-added. Apologies again. --Jayzel 22:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

RFAR

I have filed an RFAR against User:Eternal_Equinox listing you as an involved party at ]. -- HeyNow10029 23:24, 25 June 2006 (UTC)