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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.
- If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
- If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
- If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss the proper target.
- Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)
Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.
Before listing a redirect for discussion
Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:
- Misplaced Pages:Redirect – what redirects are, why they exist, and how they are used.
- Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion – which pages can be deleted without discussion; in particular the "General" and "Redirects" sections.
- Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy – how we delete things by consensus.
- Misplaced Pages:Guide to deletion – guidelines on discussion format and shorthand.
The guiding principles of RfD
Shortcut- The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
- Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
- If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
- Redirects nominated in contravention of Misplaced Pages:Redirect will be speedily kept.
- RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
- Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
- In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.
When should we delete a redirect?
This page is transcluded from Misplaced Pages:Redirect/Deletion reasons. (edit | history) |
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Further information: Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Common outcomes and Misplaced Pages:Moving a page § Moving over a redirect
The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:
- a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
- if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Misplaced Pages pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").
Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.
Reasons for deleting
Shortcut See also: Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion § RedirectsYou might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):
- The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Misplaced Pages.
- The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
- The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
- The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
- The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
- It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Misplaced Pages namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, were an exception to this rule until they became their own namespace in 2024. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Misplaced Pages:, Help:, or Portal:.)
- If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
- If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
- If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the
suppressredirect
user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves. - Shortcut If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.
Reasons for not deleting
ShortcutHowever, avoid deleting such redirects if:
- They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Misplaced Pages:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
- They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in article text because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
- They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
- Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Misplaced Pages:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
- Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Misplaced Pages in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
- The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.
Neutrality of redirects
ShortcutJust as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}
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Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:
- Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. Climategate → Climatic Research Unit email controversy).
- Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
- The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Misplaced Pages in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Misplaced Pages article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.
The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.
Closing notes
- Details at Administrator instructions for RfD
Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).
How to list a redirect for discussion
ShortcutSTEP I. | Tag the redirect(s).
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STEP II. | List the entry on RfD.
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STEP III. | Notify users.
It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate. may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as: Notice of redirect discussion at ]
Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages. |
- Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.
Current list
June 26
Omi Town → List of Xiaolin Showdown episodes
Some editors have been making articles for the episodes that once were redirected to the page. I am listing this here because this is the next episode on the list that has not been created yet and has a redirect. Ryulong 22:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Wiki fairy → Misplaced Pages:WikiFairy
Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 19:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ~ PseudoSudo 00:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Harmless and the proposal is based on a pointless concept. Chicheley 00:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep unless possibility of confusion with encyclopedic content can be shown. Kusma (討論) 00:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikignome → Misplaced Pages:WikiGnome
Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 19:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ~ PseudoSudo 00:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep It is harmless and no credible reason for deletion has been put forward. Chicheley 00:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep unless possibility of confusion with encyclopedic content can be shown. Kusma (討論) 00:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Kris Craig Interview → User:Pub biographer/Kris Craig Interview
Cross-space redirect Fram 11:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.C:WPCVG → CAT:WPCVG
New (2006-06-12) cross-namespace redirect moved to CAT:WPCVG, common style is Special:Prefixindex/CAT:, see also m:Help:Namespace manager. -- Omniplex 05:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as per below (C:CSD). Proto///type 11:51, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as per below (C:CSD). - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Harmless and the proposal is based on a pointless concept. Chicheley 00:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Giant douche → George W. Bush
This redirect only points to George W. Bush and previously pointed to John Kerry. Silly and pointless either way it originally pointed. Basically its an offensive redirect. Kevin_b_er 05:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.C:UBT → CAT:UBT
New (2006-06-17) cross-namespace redirect moved to CAT:UBT, common style is Special:Prefixindex/CAT:, see also m:Help:Namespace manager. -- Omniplex 05:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry for being dense, but what exactly in m:Help:Namespace manager says that we shouldn't have C: shortcuts? Why do we even use CAT: instead of the shorter C:? Kusma (討論) 05:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think it says that "pseudo-namespaces" (like WP: or WM:) might be transformed into real namespaces. I can't tell you more about it, all I know is that help page, and from my POV Special:Namespaces is either invisible, or not (yet) enabled. No idea who invented CAT:CAT, check the history. It got some traction, see the "Prefixindex" link. Belatedly adding C: would only confuse it more than necessary, one vs. three characters is no huge gain. CAT for category could be also slightly more obvious than C for somebody who doesn't know it. -- Omniplex 05:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as per below (C:CSD). Proto///type 11:51, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as per below (C:CSD). - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Harmless and the reasoning put forward is of no value. Chicheley 00:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is not paper → Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not
inter-wiki redirect Polonium 17:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. See this redirect's previous RfD, and Special:Whatlinkshere/Wikipedia is not paper (344 inbound). ~ PseudoSudo 22:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:ASR; recommend an AWB team repoint the applicable redlinks after this RfD closes. ~ PseudoSudo 22:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Does no harm whatsoever. Chicheley 00:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
June 25
Doweld → List of botanists by author abbreviation
Redirect would have its merit if there was actually such an entry in the list. Otherwise, if the linker/crator cannot be bothered to check the proper botanist, the redirectshould not exist. Circeus 01:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC) Nomination retracted. Circeus 00:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. I have added him to the list based upon his IPNI entry. -- JLaTondre 22:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Louisville Communist Journal → The Courier-Journal
Not a plausible search term (if anyone actually does call the paper this, I really doubt they'd ever search for the nickname over the paper's real name). Seems to exist just to disparage the article it redirects to, see recent POV insertions into that article, which mention this phrase . W.marsh 23:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. The redirect was made by a half vandalism/half Kentucky-related articles user with a grudge against the newspaper. The redirect must be simply for his own satisfaction (or I suppose people he personally tells to search that term at wikipedia.) BabuBhatt 20:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Two google hits for "Louisville Communist Journal". Not a notable nickname. -- JLaTondre 22:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
C:CSD → CAT:CSD
redundant cross-namespace redirect, common style is CAT:, technical background at m:Help:Namespace manager -- Omniplex 19:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Redundancy is not a decent reason for removal of a useful shortcut, that does no harm. Proto///type 22:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, CAT:CSD is short enough. — xaosflux 22:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. I use this shortcut all the time. Misplaced Pages ain't paper, and five characters is more convenient than 7. It irks me a bit, frankly, that I'm going to have to have to remember to type out CAT instead of C for a week until this gets closed. JDoorjam Talk 01:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, useful type-in shortcut, no collision with encyclopedic content has been shown. Once there are plans to introduce a C: namespace, we should certainly delete this, but why now? Kusma (討論) 02:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep since I use this shortcut very often, as I'm sure do other users.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep whom does it bother?! Is there a "C:" namespace? How's this x-space? - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep This so-called policy on "cross-namespace" redirects is absurd and has already done major damage to Misplaced Pages's usability, especially for newer users. It must be stopped now. Chicheley 00:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
"augustus greely" → Adolphus Greely
really unuseful title (was stub), article since moved twice Zigger «º» 07:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Grandmasterka 20:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, unlikely to be searched for.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was deleted per previous RFD (Jan 2006) — sjorford++ 10:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Ugly bags of mostly water → Human
umm... yeah. i was checking "what links here" and this stuck out as rather odd.
- This has already been deleted once, so I've speedied it. — sjorford++ 10:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
The most annoying thing in the world → Crazy Frog
Yes it is annoying, but not that annoying. This redirect represents someone's non-neutral point of view. Omphaloscope » talk 08:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep; "The most annoying thing in the world" was actually the former name of the crazy frog, before it became a ringtone. smurrayinchester 08:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Smurrayinchester. As a side note, if you look at the beginning of the music video (approx 11th second to 17th second) you will see WANTED - the most annoying thing in the world. TheJC Contributions 09:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per above. --Zoz (t) 11:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
WP:0FA → User:Mboverload/Zero Featured Article, WP:*FA → User:Digitalme/Any Featured Article
WP redirects pointing to userspace essays; see WP:1FA's RFD. ~ PseudoSudo 22:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Delete, sure, I see.--digital_me 22:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.June 24
Categories for deletion → Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion
Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 22:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose So what, it's useful. Osomec 16:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per precedents for cross-namespace redirects. Mr. Osomec is ignoring the fact that even without this redirect, Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion will still show up - in position 1 - in the search results, so there is no chance that removing this will cause anyone to lose their way to CfD. Kimchi.sg 18:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - main namespace pollution. -- Omniplex 20:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - useful, as many people forget to type in the "Misplaced Pages:" namespace tag before.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as cross-namespace redirect. --Zoz (t) 13:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Anyone care to say why cross-namespace redirects are bad? Chicheley 23:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ~ PseudoSudo 23:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Request for adminship → Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship
Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 22:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose Obviously useful. Osomec 16:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - non-encyclopedic main namespace pollution. -- Omniplex 20:08, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - useful, as many people forget to type in the "Misplaced Pages:" namespace tag before.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, obviously. Cross-namespace redirect. --Zoz (t) 11:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, obviously. Cross-namespace redirect - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Not obvious at all, but really rather bizarre. Chicheley 23:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ~ PseudoSudo 23:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Requests for Adminship → Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship
Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 22:08, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Yanksox 22:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose Obviously useful. Osomec 16:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - non-encyclopedic main namespace pollution. It already has a shortcut. -- Omniplex 20:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - useful, as many people forget to type in the "Misplaced Pages:" namespace tag before, and many people consider the title to be Adminship, instead of adminship.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as cross-namespace redirect. --Zoz (t) 13:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ~ PseudoSudo 23:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep This so-called policy is based on a completely imaginary problem. Chicheley 23:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Tuçe Kazaz → Tuğçe Kazaz
Typing error while moving from Tugçe Kazaz. CeeGee 15:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep redir created as a result of a plausible typo. Kimchi.sg 10:34, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Autopista → Autopistas de Puerto Rico
Autopistas are found in others countries, including Spain. Autopista really deserves its own article, but until it has one, redirecting to a list of only Puerto Rican ones would be confusing. smurrayinchester 10:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.Devarajan/Filmography → Filmography of G. Devarajan
together with G. Devarajan/Filmography these are pointless and undesirable redirects left over after I moved the page to a more policy complient title. Eluchil404 03:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete both, unlikely search term.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
BATTLE OF HALDIGHAT → Battle of Haldighat
Doesn't quite meet CSD R3, but I think it's unnecessary and implausible. –Dicty (T/C) 12:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was Deleted by EWS23. -- JLaTondre 22:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)James Brady (disambiguation) (disambiguation) → James Brady (disambiguation)
Nobody is going to type "(disambiguation) (disambiguation)" in the search box. —EdGl 18:52, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete - R3 (unlikely typo) Timrem 19:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
June 23
The nominated redirect was speedy delete per WP:ASR. Cross-namespace, reposted redirect with no incoming links. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)Articles for deletion → Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion
Self-referential cross-namespace redirect. Deleted by Cyde (talk • contribs) on 15 June 2006, recreated by Calsicol (talk • contribs) on 22 June 2006. There was one incoming link, which I have now changed to point directly to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion – Gurch 14:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, if possible, as db-repost. --Zoz (t) 14:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was Deleted by Jimfbleak. -- JLaTondre 11:41, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Plant Vagina → Flower
Not a term one would use to find "flower"; nor is it biologically accurate. Flowers contain both male and female organs; and platns have nothing resembling a penis or a vagina. Looks like someone being naughty to me. If anyone with better biological knowledge than I thinks this is appropriate, though, I'll quickly change my mind. EngineerScotty 05:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Whoops, it got speedied. --EngineerScotty 05:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Votes for deletion → Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion
Cross namespace redirect Yanksox 05:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as cross-namespace redirect. --Zoz (t) 12:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: useful to the many wikipedians who still have the term "votes for deletion" in their heads. AndyJones 12:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Those Wikipedians should type Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion. --Zoz (t) 13:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Or even WP:VFD. No reason to have a cross-namespace redirect for that (and since articles for deletion is red, it's not even like it's the same thing as for people with AfD in their heads). --Rory096 06:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Those Wikipedians should type Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion. --Zoz (t) 13:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete all cross-namespace redirects. — sjorford++ 14:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep unless you plan on fixing those 1,500 links. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 20:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: User:Rory096 has a bot to fix this. --Zoz (t) 22:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep for the reasons stated above. Still widely used by many Wikipedians. I know there's a thing against "cross namespace redirects" (whatever the heck that means) but IMO this should be an exception to the rule. I also feel few Wikipedians know to (nor give a darn to) type "Misplaced Pages:...." before these things. As far as they're concerned, these pages are part of Misplaced Pages. If none of that is convincing, then I'm claiming the redirect should be kept as per points #3 and 5 under "avoid deleting such redirects if..." in the "When should we delete a redirect?" section, below. Plus there appears to be a precedent for VFD being kept as a redirect. (AFD goes to a disambiguation page so it doesn't count). 23skidoo 21:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: VFD is not a precedent as it is not a cross-namespace redirect. And VfD had its target changed--Zoz (t) 22:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Convert to soft redirect to discourage cross-namespace redirection. Failing that, delete and repoint all incoming links. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete after orphaning. — TKD::Talk 03:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Self referential, needless. --Rory096 06:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. This isn't even a valid Misplaced Pages term anymore. -- JLaTondre 13:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, it's a cross-namespace redirect (thus violating WP:ASR) and I've orphaned it. --Cyde↔Weys 15:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as a cross-namespace redirect, and one whos meaning we want to discourage anyway. --Hetar 05:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Obviously useful. Osomec 16:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- How is this "obviously" useful? The damn thing has no inbound links and our deletion process hasn't even been called that for a long while. I'm sorry if I don't see the obviousness of this, but I think you do need to explain it, because it's hardly clear-cut. --Cyde↔Weys 23:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - non-encyclopedic main namespace pollution. The target also has several shortcuts. -- Omniplex 20:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete; WP:ASR. ~ PseudoSudo 23:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep People will type this into search. Chicheley 23:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
June 22
Aetherometry → Aether theories
Aetherometry isn't mentioned at all on the Aether theories page, and it is very different from the theories discussed there. It doesn't really have too much in common with aether theories at all, concentrating more on things like leukemia early warning kits and measurements with no uncertainty. Philosophus 21:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- turn in to stub article perhaps the best thing is to make this a short stub article with a definition of what the term does mean. --Salix alba (talk) 10:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, do not create article unless citing reliable sources as per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Aetherometry (second nomination). Kusma (討論) 14:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Pearland JROTC → George W. Bush
No apparent connection, former target was deleted, see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pearland Army JROTC. Rory096 08:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was Speedy deleted R1 by InShaneee (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves). --Rory096 05:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Warren wickman → Warren Wickman
Target deleted Johndarrington 01:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was speedy delete as G6, although it doesn't matter either way. Kusma (討論) 00:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Path integral → Talk:Line integral
Path integral has been rewritten as a disambig, so this seems unnecessary. (I reverted blanking of the redirect, as I feel that it would be better if it were deleted entirely, and it's better discussed as an RfD than an MfD.) — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.June 21
The nominated redirect was Converted to disambig. -- JLaTondre 01:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)Swirl → Swirl (band)
Since the addition of the swirl (organization) page there are now two swirl pages. I'm thinking that the Swirl redirect shouldn't direct to just one of them because if you search for swirl meaning to find the organization you won't be able to find it. Rugadh 21:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was Deleted --Cyde↔Weys 17:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Image copyright tags → Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags
Cross-space redirect. SCHZMO ✍ 21:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. feydey 07:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Yanksox 05:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — TKD::Talk 03:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - non-encyclopedic main namespace pollution. -- Omniplex 20:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Image tags → Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags
Cross-space redirect SCHZMO ✍ 21:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. feydey 07:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — TKD::Talk 03:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - non-encyclopedic main namespace pollution. -- Omniplex 20:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was kept. Don't be a schlong. — Jun. 26, '06 <freak|talk>
Schlong → Penis
I don't beleive that this should be deleted, as it is conceivable that someone might search "Schlong" on Misplaced Pages; however, the {{rfd}} tag was placed on it by 194.66.185.193 at 10:29 on 19 June 2006, so I feel duty-bound to list it here. In other words: keep. Lockesdonkey 20:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. I didn't know what a penis was, but I now know it is a schlong. Misplaced Pages's so damned useful. Seriously, though, keep. Seems an obvious redirect. David L Rattigan 20:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep; common slang term, and deters duplicate article creation. — TKD::Talk 03:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was already deleted by somebody else. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>
A VC → Fred Wilson (venture capitalist)
Redirect to deleted article Bugwit grunt / scribbles 10:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was speedy deleted because I saw no mention of "shain" on the latter page. If I'm missing something, let me know. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>
Shain → Babe: Pig in the City
Makes no sense. Wizard @ 08:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was speedy deleted, cross-namespace redirect, malformed, made no sense. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>
Sqwirl → Image:Manet,_Edouard_-_The_Absinthe_Drinker.jpg
Makes no sense. Wizard @ 07:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was deleted, phrase is not mentioned in target article. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>
Fuck Misplaced Pages → Criticism of Misplaced Pages
Pretentious, useless. Kookykman|(t)e 15:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.Cake Sniffer → Lemony Snicket
- What does the insult Cake Sniffer have to do with the author/character from The Series of Unfortunite Events? All systems go 17:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, but change target to Carmelita Spats, the character who actually uses the (fictional) insult. smurrayinchester 20:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Done. This seems appropriate, since the term is discussed on that page. Keep --Philosophus 00:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as redirect to C. Spats .--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Twentysomething → Twentysomething (disambig)
I'm trying to do a complicated sort of reshuffling to merge Twenty something into its correct spelling Twentysomething while still preserving the talk page and without deleting either page's information. So, basically, I need this page freed up to complete the merge myself. KyleGarvey 19:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- This should be at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. --Rory096 08:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm going to do the move myself, if someone deletes the page. Or at least, I'd prefer to. KyleGarvey 18:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- It should still go to WP:RM, because it relates to a page move. — sjorford++ 18:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm going to do the move myself, if someone deletes the page. Or at least, I'd prefer to. KyleGarvey 18:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
June 20
Richard Sharpe Story Plots → Misplaced Pages:Richard Sharpe Story Plots
Cross-space redirect created by move —Mira 05:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — TKD::Talk 07:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Zoz (t) 12:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ~ PseudoSudo 00:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Napoleonic/Sharpe:Wikiproject → Misplaced Pages:Richard Sharpe Story Plots
Cross-space redirect created by move —Mira 05:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — TKD::Talk 07:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Zoz (t) 12:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Template:Monopoly → Template:LondonMonopolyBoard
The Monopoly template was just a copy of the London game board layout of the board game Monopoly, copied from the Monopoly (game) page. I considered the template name to be too generic, moved the content to Template:LondonMonopolyBoard, and made the necessary change in the article. Nothing now links to Template:Monopoly; it could be deleted. JohnDBuell 01:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Moved from WP:TfD.--SomeStranger 20:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete the redirect is not appropriate as there are multiple versions of the game monopoly. There is no one "official" version that deserves this redirect.--SomeStranger 20:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — TKD::Talk 07:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Arnzy 01:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Zoz (t) 12:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Integrated Science, Business, and Technology → Integrated Science, Business and Technology
Target article was deleted qswitch426 18:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, R1. --Rory096 18:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Integrated Science Business and Technology → Integrated Science, Business and Technology
Target article deleted qswitch426 17:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, R1. --Rory096 18:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Andy anggianto → User:Fiexe
Cross-space redirect Fram 13:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Zoz (t) 13:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per above. - Tangotango 13:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Dismas| 13:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Ac1983fan (talk • contribs) 14:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, R2. --Rory096 17:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Multiple unofficial anthems → National Anthem of Scotland
No obvious logical connection: if someone would look for "multiple unofficial anthems" (however improbable that is), there is no reason for them to expect to be carried to the one for Scotland Fram 13:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Any unofficial anthem could refer to any country --Arnzy 13:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Zoz (t) 13:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as misleading. - Tangotango 13:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, cool the beans... the redirect only exists due to the original author misnaming the article (or rather, naming it as it would appear in text) and it then being moved. /wangi 20:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Change target to National anthem. I have already done so for Multiple unofficial Anthems.-Mathew5000 05:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Change target to National anthem. — TKD::Talk 07:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Bartholomew (Spyro charcacter) → Bentley (Spyro character)
Typo by the Wikipedian creating the article. Actual article was Bartholomew (Spyro character), which has since been merged into Bentley (Spyro character) for lack of notability. No further edit history or apparent internal links to the old redirect. Stratadrake 12:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Clarifying: I've already merged the Bartholomew article's info into the article for Bentley and changed the old article (Bartholomew (Spyro character)) into a redirect. That was when I noticed the redirect in question, Bartholomew (Spyro charcacter). --Stratadrake 00:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep or change destination to Spyro the Dragon (series), depending on how related "Bartholomew" and "Bentley" are. - Tangotango 13:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Note that not Bartholomew but "charcater" was misspelled. Implausible typo. --Zoz (t) 13:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as typo per Zoz. --Arnzy 01:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, very implausible typo, borderline r3. --Rory096 18:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was delete as CSD G4 - repost. Kimchi.sg 14:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
March 27, 1964 → Good Friday Earthquake
If an article for a date is to be created, (which I would oppose, as we don't have any dates around there), it should be an ARTICLE, not a redirect. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 02:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't see anything wrong with this; lots of dates are redirects, e.g. July 8, 2002. It's not so unlikely that someone might type a date into the search box looking for a specific event. For example, if you type July 20, 1969 into the search box, you should be taken directly to Apollo 11.--Mathew5000 03:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: July 8, 2002 redirects to July 2002. A redirect to a different date is different than a redirect to a specific event. July 20, 1969 taking you to Apollo 11 would be a surprise for those looking for the end of the Football War. It shouldn't be Misplaced Pages's job to prioritize one article over another. However, March 27 doesn't list anything else for 1964 so it's not currently an issue in this case. -- JLaTondre 10:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Change target to 1964. Less confusing over the long run. — TKD::Talk 07:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - this date should be linked as March 27, 1964, so March 27, 1964 shouldn't be redirected anywhere. — sjorford++ 15:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: A redirect at this article was previously deleted, and if I remember correctly, one of its incarnations was this very version. Perhaps a speedy as {{db-repost}}? — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 16:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't think any individual date should redirect to an event. Kusma (討論) 17:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was Deleted by Kusma (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves). --Rory096 06:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
July 1979 → July
or perhaps, it's redirecting to 1979. In any case, we don't have any nearby month/year articles or redirects. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 02:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was speedy deleted. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
"Comment Spam Number Mystery" → Comment spam number mystery
No sensible reason why this would ever be referenced with quotes around it, most likely a mistake that was then redirected, but should probably be deleted now Gnewf 19:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, R3. --Rory096 22:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
My Chemical Romance → You know what they do to guys like us in prison
It is a song that should have its own page and not get redirected to the band. All systems go 23:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- I guess you want to delete the redirect You Know What They Do To Guys Like Us In Prison pointing to My Chemical Romance. If you want to create an article about the song, just do so, the redirect does not have to be deleted for that. See the top of this page. Kusma (討論) 23:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
June 19
The nominated redirect was all deleted per precedent, etc. — Jun. 19, '06 <freak|talk>Wikipediest → Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians
Cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Wp wikipedians → Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians
Cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Wp list of wikipedians → Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians
Cross-namespace redirect, trying to be some sort of odd shortcut. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedist → Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians
Cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages community → Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians
Yet another cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikipede → Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians
Unhelpful cross-namespace redirect. Only two incoming links. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
WikiPedians → Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians
Cross-namespace, CamelCase redirect with no particularly useful history and only two incoming links. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was Deleted by CambridgeBayWeather (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves).
--Rory096 06:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
List of cartoon and comic character pairs → List of comic and cartoon character pairs
Reason Target page non-existant CPAScott 19:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.Barine → Arvède Barine
The name "Barine" used to result in a long list of possible entries that use this last name, this list is bypassed if this redirect remains. Bob em 16:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Like what other entries? Aside from Arvède, the only other Barine seems to be a character in a play by Sartre . --Mathew5000 21:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, I have no problem making it into a dab page if there are other entries... but looking through the edit history there was the redirect or just " ]" which didn't automatically redirect... so, I'll say keep unless there is a dab page. gren グレン 22:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Do No Harm(Tv Episode) → Do No Harm (Lost)
No one would type this in, people will be able to find the correct article by visiting Do No Harm. Also no links to the page.TomcageTalk Contribs 10:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Edit: no links except a disambiguation page which is listed for deletion and another redirect which I am about to list. TomcageTalk Contribs 10:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 17:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Wisden17 20:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Do No Harm(TV Episode) → Do No Harm(Tv Episode)
Redirect to another redirect. Unrequired as no one will type this in. No links to the page. TomcageTalk Contribs 10:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and above RfD too. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 17:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per my above comment. --Wisden17 20:45, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
June 18
Knob rot → Gonorrhoea
nonsense redirect, original article was submitted for speedy deletion whoda 21:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nonsense--Jusjih 00:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Probably someone's made up term for it, I don't think this is a valid slang term. If someone brings forward a source it could be saved. Grandmasterka 02:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete would set a dangerous precendent. --Wisden17 20:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per above. --Arnzy 13:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as people may type in this phrase to find out what it means - I've heard this English slang phrase used whilst living in the South-East of England, as well as the North-West. see: , (possibly not the best site: , although it does explain the phrase in the contexts I've heard it), (although it is a UK Government forum, Anne's post explains its meaning to someone who hasn't heard of it before), and Template:Pdf (page 11). TheJC Contributions 23:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
June 17
The nominated redirect was cross namespace gren グレン 22:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)Blank map → Misplaced Pages:Blank maps
Cross-namespace redirect. Mathew5000 20:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was Deleted by Makemi (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves)
Adam Wang → User:MUBOTE
Cross-namespace redirect. Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 16:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves)
Tawkerbot → User:Tawkerbot
... Rory096 14:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.Shadow the Hedgehog (video game features) → Shadow the Hedgehog (video game)
Unlikely to be entered into the search bar. ' 04:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- It is useful in discouraging recreation of a deleted page. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Can't page protections be used for that? ' 04:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Right, but then it would be a {{deletedpage}}. Redirects are always better than random pages with self-references in them that are completely useless. --Rory096 14:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Can't page protections be used for that? ' 04:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, that redirect was created when those pages where merged together. I am not making a vote here, though. Ac1983fan (talk • contribs) 14:04, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- There doesn't appear to be any history there, and the result of the AfD was delete, not merge. Keep anyway, redirects are cheap. --Rory096 17:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Bad-lad and trap-bath splits and æ-tensing → Phonological history of English short A
Odd redirect. No one's going to type in this looking for the phonological history of English short a. I wonder why this redirect was created? Voortle 23:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- It looks like the article was created there in the first place, in which case, keep to prevent anybody recreating it. Redirects are cheap, and "odd" is not a worthwhile reason for deleting. — sjorford++ 13:55, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete then add {{deletedpage}} to the redirecting page. Ac1983fan (talk • contribs) 14:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Er......why? {{deletedpage}} is a last resort, only to be used for acts of repetitive vandalism. There's nothing like that here. — sjorford++ 17:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per sjorford. — TKD::Talk 07:20, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Requested pictures → Misplaced Pages:Requested pictures
Needless orphaned cross-namespace redirect. Rory096 18:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.The nominated redirect was Speedy deleted by Derek Ross (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves) --Rory096 18:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Direct logic → Direct Logic
article doesn't exist — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, R1. --Rory096 17:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was deleted. Kimchi.sg 10:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
WAITES → Waits
If someone's looking for an article on waits they're not going to type it in ALL CAPS. – ∅ (∅), 10:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--SomeStranger 12:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Wisden17 20:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Ac1983fan (talk • contribs) 14:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was Converted to disambig. -- JLaTondre 12:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Kutter → Anton_Kutter
Redirect should be removed and replaced by a disambiguation page referring to Anton Kutter and Hermann Kutter 84.150.250.197 11:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- DONE - article is now a disambig page for all instances of Kutter I could find - Peripitus (Talk) 11:23, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was deleted. Kimchi.sg 11:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Bolos, got to love them... or else! → ]
Appears to be a pointless redir, has only one contributer with one edit, the contributer was in fact queried about it roughly 7 months ago to no avail whoda 11:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Zoz (t) 13:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Unlikely to be searched for, no significant history or incoming links. - Tangotango 09:54, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was Changed target to Tracy and tagged with {{R from alternate spelling}}. -- JLaTondre 14:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Traci → Tracy Brookshaw
There is more than one Traci, but I don't think we should go down the path of disambig pages by first name. JLaTondre 13:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Why not? — Jun. 17, '06 <freak|talk>
- There are exceptions to any generalization as there are famous first names. However, in general a disambig page based upon a common first name is going to pretty useless & hard to maintain when it starts reaching into the 100s of articles. -- JLaTondre 00:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. She's not Elvis. Fan1967 00:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I'm tempted to say that this should redirect to Tracy, a disambig page as a possible mispelling, though I'm not sure if that is the best course of action. Looking to see what others think. Cowman109 01:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Seems reasonable. Checking the "Traci" articles we have () finds pretty much Traci Lords the most notable of the few listed, and she's included on the Tracy DAB page, as are people with other spellings like "Tracey". Fan1967 02:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- In that case... Change target to Tracy per comments above. Cowman109 04:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect to Tracy as a common spelling variant, and add notable people named "Traci" to the list. — Jun. 18, '06 <freak|talk>
The nominated redirect was redirected to neologism. There is a 6-to-3 majority in favo(u)r of doing so, and Rory's argument was convincing. Kimchi.sg 11:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Protologism → Misplaced Pages:Avoid neologisms
There's a bit of history here. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Protologism was closed as delete on 23 March this year. The article was recreated as a redirect a couple of days later, and the redirect was listed here immediately. The RfD did not lead to a consensus, so when I closed it I decided to make the article a soft redirect to wikt:protologism, which I judged to be a good compromise between the various positions taken at the RfD debate (see Misplaced Pages:Redirects for deletion/Redirect Archives/March 2006#March 27). However, this soft redirect did not last long. I'm bringing the redirect up again in the hope that we now do manage to get a consensus.
Personally, I think cross-namespace redirects are to be avoided. I don't think this one is useful enough that it merits ignoring the rule. Thus, delete. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 14:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete would my preference. {{wi}} would be better than a cross namespace redirect. This word does have some (minor) usage outside of Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages should not be claiming it for its own. -- JLaTondre 14:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- It has only very minimal such use and none of it something approaching a reliable source. -Splash - tk 15:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- We had this before, and it should have been deleted then. The only reason this breathes is that someone rather unhelpfully created it as a redirect after AfD had correctly deleted it. Misplaced Pages does not collect navel-gazing neologisms, by redirect or otherwise. And before someone says "but we have X other neologistic redirect", well, yes, perhaps we do, and we should delete that too. -Splash - tk 15:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Splash. Joe 16:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Note that Freakofnurture has some difficult allowing this debate to remain open, presumably as he disagrees with its premise. He's closed it 3 times now, and I've re-opened it. Please would someone keep an eye out, thanks. -Splash - tk 16:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect to neologism, a clear alternative to a cross-namespace redirect and simply an editorial action. --Rory096 17:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the previous RfD said it should be a soft redirect to wikt:protologism, and Splash made that into a cross-namespace redirect. I still think neologism, which is what it was before the last RfD, is a better target, though. --Rory096 17:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- It is no more acceptable to retain a neologism as a redirect than it is any other form. It is just slack editorial standards not to delete this. -Splash - tk 19:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sure it is. Redirects are cheap, and this is used by at least a few outside people. It's harmless. --Rory096 21:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- The problem with retargeting to neologism is that that article hardly mentions "protologism" and does not explain what it is. I think redirects should only be used if the target page actually explains the term. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 04:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- True, but it would redirect to a related term that links to wikt:protologism, so it's better than just nothing at all. --Rory096 15:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- The problem with retargeting to neologism is that that article hardly mentions "protologism" and does not explain what it is. I think redirects should only be used if the target page actually explains the term. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 04:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sure it is. Redirects are cheap, and this is used by at least a few outside people. It's harmless. --Rory096 21:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Change target to neologism per Rory. Kusma (討論) 17:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Change target to neologism per Rory. --Mathew5000 20:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Change target as above. Ac1983fan (talk • contribs) 14:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Jitse Niesen and Splash. Minor concerns that including this redirect in article space violates WP:NEO and WP:SELF. --Muchness 14:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect to neologism, as per above, and as per previous closures by two separate administrators, both of which were reverted by Splash. — Jun. 20, '06 <freak|talk>
- Redirect to neologism, and for what it's worth, I don't think the repeated reversion of the closure of this RFD was at all appropriate. --Cyde↔Weys 04:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Bandwagon speedy change target to neologism; also, maybe add a line in that article about this term referring to a proposed new word. BD2412 T 04:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment It seems there is a realistic chance that Wiktionary will delete their article on wikt:protologism, on the grounds that it's a protologism itself. See wikt:WT:LOP#P. Therefore, the soft redirect option possibly won't work. ais523 10:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is an excellent reason for Misplaced Pages to delete it as well. WP does not collect neologisms, and surely if the project that does doesn't want this one, we don't keep it either. We're just being soft, when we have clear practise and input from elsewhere telling us to get a grip. -Splash - tk 15:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Uh, no there isn't. It was listed at RfV by a new user, who didn't say anything but that it's a protologism. There are 4 sources, it'll easily pass RfV. What makes you think it'll be deleted? --Rory096 06:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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