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	:Considering that this article did not exist before she was killed, I am inclined to agree. ] (]) 00:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)		:Considering that this article did not exist before she was killed, I am inclined to agree. ] (]) 00:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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			Masterstrack.com is a self-published source and can not be used as a reference for this article. As April Jace is a recently deceased person, the article therefore falls under the rules regarding ] which state that one should ]. --] (]) 21:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
			:Masterstrack.com is the premiere news aggregation site for the sport of ]. It has been providing that service since February 1996, initially via ] and now onto its own domain. The editor of the site, Ken Stone is a professional journalist working for the ], and its on line service Sign On San Diego, ] and . Just as every major newspaper has a blog to disseminate aggregated news items (which wikipedia accepts as reliable sources every day), the editor of this site has chosen the blog format. He gets news, which he documents well, from a wide variety of sources and tips from thousands of users, which would include myself. I have used masterstrack.com as a source for edits on the subject since my earliest days writing articles about the subject, more than 5 years ago, without challenge. ] is using this attack on the source as a tool to remove content, as an underhanded tactic to urge for deletion of this article as a whole. What this user specifically sneakily attacked was mentions of April in content generated years before her murder, which would deflate the argument that there is no history. This user started an edit war for said purpose and I am not continuing to revert out of respect for edit war rules. ] (]) 22:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
			::Regardless of whether or not the editor of the site is an ], self-published sources can not be used as sources of material about a living person. As his work in the field of track has previously been published by reliable third-party publications, it can be used in some articles, but never as a third-party source about a living or recently deceased person. If you still believe this source should be used, I suggest you start a discussion at ]. --] (]) 23:56, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
			:::] Done] (]) 00:25, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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Are we now going to create separate entries for every murdered spouse of an actor? This should be deleted and simply merged with the Michael Jace page. TexasChickStuckInCali (talk) 13:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Considering that this article did not exist before she was killed, I am inclined to agree. Paul Studier (talk) 00:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Self-published source

Masterstrack.com is a self-published source and can not be used as a reference for this article. As April Jace is a recently deceased person, the article therefore falls under the rules regarding biographies of living persons which state that one should "Never use self-published sources ... as sources of material about a living person". --Hirolovesswords (talk) 21:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Masterstrack.com is the premiere news aggregation site for the sport of Masters athletics. It has been providing that service since February 1996, initially via AOL and now onto its own domain. The editor of the site, Ken Stone is a professional journalist working for the San Diego Union-Tribune, and its on line service Sign On San Diego, Patch Media and timesofsandiego.com. Just as every major newspaper has a blog to disseminate aggregated news items (which wikipedia accepts as reliable sources every day), the editor of this site has chosen the blog format. He gets news, which he documents well, from a wide variety of sources and tips from thousands of users, which would include myself. I have used masterstrack.com as a source for edits on the subject since my earliest days writing articles about the subject, more than 5 years ago, without challenge. Hirolovesswords is using this attack on the source as a tool to remove content, as an underhanded tactic to urge for deletion of this article as a whole. What this user specifically sneakily attacked was mentions of April in content generated years before her murder, which would deflate the argument that there is no history. This user started an edit war for said purpose and I am not continuing to revert out of respect for edit war rules. Trackinfo (talk) 22:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Regardless of whether or not the editor of the site is an expert in his field, self-published sources can not be used as sources of material about a living person. As his work in the field of track has previously been published by reliable third-party publications, it can be used in some articles, but never as a third-party source about a living or recently deceased person. If you still believe this source should be used, I suggest you start a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 23:56, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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