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| :Read through the talk page archives to get a sense of how we arrived at this name. Also uses news articles (]). --] <sup>'']''</sup> 05:08, 18 April 2014 (UTC) | :Read through the talk page archives to get a sense of how we arrived at this name. Also uses news articles (]). --] <sup>'']''</sup> 05:08, 18 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Removed Sentence
I removed this one line from a section in the Gen Y page. It claimed that Millennials were sometimes referred to as the MTV Generation because of MTV's influence on the millennials.
This is unsupported. MTV dominated the 1980's, but has largely become just another channel since then. The oldest millennials were in high school in the late 1990's, and therefore were not all that influenced by MTV. Furthermore, there is scant evidence to support this. Of the three sources, two of them described Gen Xers, not millennials. The one that did use the term MTV generation to describe what appeared to be millennials (it was not clear who it was referring as the MTV generation) appears to either be a misinterpretation of what the author was stating or a single usage that is an outlier. No one else refers to millennials as the "MTV Generation."
Like members of Generation X, who were heavily influenced by MTV, early members of Generation Y are also sometimes called the MTV Generation.
Echo Boomers
"Millennials are sometimes also called Echo Boomers, referring to the generation's size relative to the Baby Boomer generation, and due to the significant increase in birth rates during the 1980s and into the 1990s."
This doesn't ring true; aren't they called "echo boomers" because they are the children of the boomers and hence, like an echo of the signal that slowly broadens and reduces in amplitude with each cycle / generation?
Also, there is no logical sense in saying that "echo" refers to the large size of that generation, given that an echo is much quieter than the original sound. Calling it Echo Boomer implies that it is a much smaller generation, but then the sentence says that it resulted from an increase in birthrates.
Also, the article has the phrase "G.I. generation", which is not a widely-known term, i.e. mostly unknown outside the US; I've never heard it, amd I don't know what it means.77Mike77 (talk) 18:43, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Further Reading section
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The section currently reads:
Further reading
Espinoza, Chip; Mick Ukleja, Craig Rusch (2010). Managing the Millennials: Discover the Core Competencies for Managing Today's Workforce. Hoboken, NJ: Wiley. p. 172. ISBN 978-0-470-56393-9. Espinoza, Chip (2012). Millennial Integration: Challenges Millennials Face in the Workplace and What They Can Do About Them. Yellow Springs. OH: Antioch University and OhioLINK. p. 151. Stephanie F. Gardner (August 15, 2006). "Preparing for the Nexters". American Journal of Pharmaceutical Education 70 (4): 87. doi:10.5688/aj700487. PMC 1636975. PMID 17136206. "born between 1983 and 1994" Furlong, Andy.Youth Studies: An Introduction. New York, NY: Routlege, 2013. Burstein, David (2013). Fast Future: How the Millennial Generation is Shaping Our World. Boston, MA: Beacon Press. Millennials hit 30: It's the economy, not us (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/millennials-hit-30-its-economy-not-us-2D11981954).
Vandalizing the sources I added years ago
I noticed someone went in and changed the dates in the paragraph I added years ago (with researched sources). They used my sources - the research study and the Australian Bureau of Statistics - to change the start date to 1983, which is wrong. The research study by Mark McCrindle titled: Superannuation and the Under 40s: Summary Report: The Attitudes and Views of Generation X conducted and published on July 18, 2005. In the table, it clearly states Generation X birth dates between 1965 and 1981 (Ages 24-40) and Generation Y as 1982 to 2000 (Ages 5-23). Do the math. I have a copy of the study myself and Mark McCrindle uses the same date ranges in his studies. Please do NOT change these dates as they are backed up by sources. I am checking to see if dates have been changed in other sections (where my sources were added). CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 04:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Someone also vandalized the dates to the sources in the Canada section I added. I changed them back. CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 05:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Based on your edits weren't you arguing over the year 1981 vs. 1982 (in these generational articles) alot back then. See http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:CreativeSoul7981 I need to look for the examples of those disputes in the archives. Please stop POV pushing. Thank you. 172.250.31.151 (talk) 18:39, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
copyvio
was marked for tone, is copyvio; whoever: you wanna put it in, use your own words.
A December 2011 poll showed that Socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view.
And while those numbers aren't very far apart, it's noteworthy that they were reversed just 20 months ago, when Pew conducted a similar poll. In that survey, published May 2010, 43 percent of people age 18-29 said they had a positive view of socialism, and 49 percent said their opinion was negative.
It's not clear why young people have evidently begun to change their thinking on socialism. In the past several years, the poor economy has had any number of effects on young adults—keeping them at home with their parents, making it difficult for them to get jobs, and likely depressing their earning potential for years to come—that might have dampened enthusiasm for the free market among this crowd.
174.19.174.16 (talk) 07:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Pew survey in news
Possibly great source for this article is NBC News analysis of a Pew survey of Millenials. FYI.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:36, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- 61-1099lm added interesting info here but it's way, way too detailed and U.S.-centric for a general article. Perhaps create a new American Millennials article? --NeilN 15:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Political Views
I would like to challenge these statements:
A "Born during or shortly after the Thatcher era, they are less supportive of the economic safety net, the National Health Service, welfare and financial support for the elderly than older generations, and are more likely to support same-sex marriage and the legalization of marijuana."
B "The Economist parallels this with Millennials in the United States, whose attitudes are more supportive of social liberal policies and same-sex marriage relative to other demographics, though less supportive of abortion than their elders."
The source article explicitly mentions that "59% of Americans aged 18 to 29 thought that 'government should do more to solve problems'." By including statement A but excluding the American Millennials' opposing views in statement B, these phrases characterise Millennials as being generally anti-government.
The article also says that UK millennials are "unusual internationally," so I question the value of the first statement in general. If it's "unusual" for Millennials globally, why is it being used to represent their politics on Misplaced Pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangeylettuce (talk • contribs) 23:17, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Why is wikipedia following fad nomenclature ?
The term "millennials" was essentially unhead of pre-2011 and Generation Y has for the last 30 something year been the term that sociologists used for the cohort of people following Generation X. Let not turn this resource into a pop culture reference book, because it's all the sudden popular to use some new term.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=millennials%2C%20%22generation%20y%22&cmpt=q
Google scholar has twice as many papers using the term Generation Y compared the Millennials — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.62.98 (talk) 04:18, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- Read through the talk page archives to get a sense of how we arrived at this name. Also this graph uses news articles (reliable sources). --NeilN 05:08, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Adding ageism to See also
As I stated in my edit summary, the content of ageism seems to bear only a tenuous connection to the specific topic of this article. --NeilN 23:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Silverman, Stephen M. (January 15, 2002). "Colin Powell Joins MTV Generation – Colin Powell". People.com. Retrieved August 24, 2010.
- Tahman Bradley (October 29, 2007). "Obama Unplugged – Obama Talks With the MTV Generation – Political Radar". Blogs.abcnews.com. Retrieved August 24, 2010.
- Kolbert, Elizabeth (April 20, 1994). "Frank Talk by Clinton To MTV Generation". The New York Times. Retrieved April 2, 2010.
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/young-people-socialism_n_1175218.html