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:Listen Ritchie333, I'm done talking to that "editor". Where can I report him so the admins can take a look at his "edits"? And one more thing, please don't put an equal mark between me (with ten GAs and two FAs) and him (who spents 99% of his time messing around with the band's discographies). It is indeed a Herculean task to cope with a 12 year old kid who hasn't heard of punctuation marks and capital leters and find "stressful" when other editos disagree with him.--] (]) 18:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC) | :Listen Ritchie333, I'm done talking to that "editor". Where can I report him so the admins can take a look at his "edits"? And one more thing, please don't put an equal mark between me (with ten GAs and two FAs) and him (who spents 99% of his time messing around with the band's discographies). It is indeed a Herculean task to cope with a 12 year old kid who hasn't heard of punctuation marks and capital leters and find "stressful" when other editos disagree with him.--] (]) 18:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC) | ||
Look at your own fucking speech before you criticise others you stupid idiot, you are a bully, you think you own the Megadeth discography page and revert anything you don't agree with. I gave in to you regarding the formats and label numbers but I won't over this. ] (]) 18:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Rocky and the Natives
Hi Ritchie, I have recently updated and re-submitted an article that I originally prepared for Rocky and the Natives last August. Any help and advice that you could give would be gratefully received. Sally of Kent (talk) 06:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Sally. I'll give you the good news first, since Rocky and the Natives includes Jim Leverton, Andy Newmark and Geoffrey Richardson as members, it passes the notability guidelines for musicians criteria 6 : "Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably-prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." That means it should be accepted.
- However, you've also used ritchieandrhonda.co.uk as a source - well it's nice you think it's a suitable reference, but it's not really what I would define as a reliable source by Misplaced Pages terms (it's our opinions, not hard facts, and while we try and get things right, nobody's job is on the line for it), and if I passed this article, somebody may put two and two together and declare I have a conflict of interest by getting involved with an article that cites a blog I'm involved with. The best thing to do for now it to leave it on the Articles for Creation queue for now, and I'll keep an eye on it. If somebody else declines it, I'll point them at the notability guideline I mentioned above. Ritchie333 13:52, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ritchie, this article has been declined by Bonkers the Clown... is there anything you can do to assist me please? Many thanks. Sally of Kent (talk) 14:36, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- *sigh* Hi Sally. Let me grab @Bonkers The Clown: in here and see what his explanation is. Ritchie333 15:39, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks so much for sorting out the rather strange intervention of Bonkers but my article has now been declined by LukeSurl. Any advice you can offer (when you have a chance) gratefully received. 86.184.202.200 (talk) 04:13, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do. What would help massively if the band got a mention in the national press or major music magazines such as Mojo who often cover this stuff. Ritchie333 15:23, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
GA Review of The Allman Brothers Band
Hey there, thanks for the review! I adore this album as well. I've implemented almost every suggestion you made. Some notes:
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Thanks again! Thardin12 (talk) 20:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- I've copied the above and replied to it on Talk:The Allman Brothers Band (album)/GA1, to keep all comments together - also that's where other editors might chip in with opinions (which happens every now and then). Ritchie333 12:58, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Your request from March 2013
Hi Ritchie333,
In this diff you placed an outdated template maintenance tag on A299 road with an edit summary stating that the junction list added by a previous editor had become factually incorrect, ie requesting someone to put it right. A few days later I came across the article then spent a fair bit of time making it factually correct, complete with notes on the talk page (and the edit summary) on how the information was obtained, ie by reference to a published work (Google Maps). You have deleted the whole table as unreferenced OR. I do not believe it's original research as it can be verified to a publicly available work (original research would be to drive the road, which I didn't). To put a google streetview link in every box would fall under WP:OVERCITE. What are your thoughts on the best way to cite this? Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 23:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'll give you my thoughts, and hopefully that will be some information to go on. I'll use various articles I've worked on as examples :
- I'm not really a fan of lists. They tend not to be rendered very well on mobile platforms, such as the IOS Misplaced Pages app, and can appear "clunky" to end users. Furthermore, the Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Embedded lists states : Embedded lists should be used only when appropriate; sometimes the information in a list is better presented as prose paragraphs. Presenting too much statistical data in list format may contravene policy. As this is one of the few Manual of Style guidelines to be included as part of the good article criteria, it's worth having a look at. Excessive statistics that dwarf prose (as this article did) may be better split off into a separate article in their own right. However, even then the statistics could be written as prose eg: in List of awards and nominations received by The Who, a content fork of The Who.
- The trouble with your list, however, is that you've taken an indiscriminate source as Google Maps prints every business, landmark and feature that it possibly can within reason, without making any attempt to justify whether the entry has encyclopaedic significance. The problem here, of course, is that my definition of "significance" may not be the same as yours or anyone else's, so you end up with things like Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Statutory Instruments of Scotland, 2012 where tempers flare up and strong words are exchanged over whether or not a list article has encyclopaedic importance. I'm not sure what to do about that other than to try and avoid contentious features if you can. M11 link road protest has an annotated map depicting key significant locations of an event. That might be an alternative solution.
- Regarding WP:OVERCITE. I like this essay - political articles and contentious BLPs tend to exhibit these problems. However, referencing content doesn't mean you have to cite every sentence or few words - it just means the information is generally available. For example, take Bournemouth#Climate - the table of minimum and maximum temperatures has a single citation to the Met Office - it doesn't need the individual temperatures citing. Conversely, though, the information Abbey Road#Charts cites each individual chart position. Again, it's really a judgement call on an individual basis.
- All in all, a bit of a can of worms, I'm afraid! Hope that's been of some use, though. Ritchie333 11:40, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the detailed reply, I'm inclined to agree with the disease of clunky pages. A full junction list is something which an article on what is little more than a local road doesn't really need. My second point (to a certain extent anyway) was that I didn't add the junc list originally, but that I responded to a cleanup template which you added asking for the list to be updated - which I did, only for the whole thing to then be deleted! I'm sure you can see why that was frustrating. No hard feelings though as perhaps I should have gone with my first instinct back in March 2013, been bold and deleted the table anyway!
Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 10:15, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- To be honest, I've forgotten why I added the tag but it was doubtless related to the improvements around Manston Airport and just getting a fact check on things. As for just deleting it, well Misplaced Pages encourages you to be bold and just do it, but even then it never hurts to discuss things first. Ritchie333 21:25, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Alcoholic beverage
Its been over one year now, can you please re-evaluate the alcoholic beverage article or make sure that anyone else do it? --David Hedlund (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- I had a look through, and there are still several unsourced sections and an unclosed merge request dating from last month. Those criteria would probably be enough to fail a GA review at this stage, I'm afraid. Ritchie333 10:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
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Absolutely – know it well! My point was just that, of the unsourced text the anonymous contributor added earlier, that particular point was definitely a keeper because, as you say, Lennon's piano comes through loud and clear. I just didn't have a ref to support its inclusion – now fixed by your goodself, of course. JG66 (talk) 12:33, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- To be honest, every time I check my watchlist (and although I seem to be doing lots of edits, I have a lot of other things going on in my life) and see an article I took to GA have a bunch of edits by an IP, my heart sinks. It's not nice to just revert as "unsourced", however tempting, but tagging them obviously confirms the quality has been degraded. It's one of the biggest problems longtime editors face as time goes on and articles get improved. Ritchie333 12:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- I can imagine, and it's something I hadn't even considered actually, having only been around for a couple of years …
- Just to be sure, were you okay with me adding that cite-needed tag? It's something I do with articles I myself am working towards GAN (from memory, McCartney's still got one I added months back). But it might not be too welcome to someone who's expanded the article, I realise. Hope it didn't offend. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 13:24, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- I have no issue in you adding cn tags to unsourced content that should have it, which this did - especially if I didn't add the content in the first place, and the tagger had good faith that it would be quickly resolved (which it did). Where I do get annoyed is if people go ballistic and throw cn tags left right and centre all over an unsourced or poorly sourced article making it look like a complete mess to the reader. Ritchie333 13:50, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
User:GreenLips/sandbox
Ritchie333
Thanks for yours regarding GreenLips/Bill Haney.
Well, I screwed up pretty bad if I somehow gave the impression there was money being exchanged for us helping Mr. Haney getting posted on Wiki. Had I known what I know now, I would have been a lot more accurate in describing our relationship. Mr. Haney has been retired for many years. He has served as a mentor to me and my company sharing his vast knowledge, experience, and contacts with us for one reason only. He likes us and loves books. My company does composition, layout and design of books. Mr. Haney considers printed books to be on there way out and has steered my company toward "specialty books". . . Coffee table style, children's, cook books, etc. Books with a lot of art and design incorporated. I couldn't loose Mr. Haney as a client, as he is not a "paying" client, but I owe him my efforts to help him get posted on Wiki. I'm sorry that in my frustration, I left an inaccurate portrayal of what really is at stake for me. That is my honor.
Mr. Haney deserves to be on Wiki and he deserves my full effort.
Thank you so much for your kindness.
GreenLips (talk) 15:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, well I've had a look. The article as it stands reads like a bit too much like Haney's resume, rather than a biographical article that documents what he has done of encyclopaedic importance, which makes it a bit tricky to pick out the elements that will make an article stick.
- That said, from looking at sources, I think there are probably enough things to confirm he is notable enough for a Misplaced Pages article. I think the best bet we have of making an article stick is to look at what he's done at the University of Michigan - I can confirm he was a student by his record in the UM register, and I can confirm he was editor of the University of Michigan Press in this Michigan Alumus entry. Plus I can find this article in the Toledo Blade about him. There's a Barnes and Noble entry about his golf book and this Boston Globe news article claims he was a "Mark Zuckerberg of his time", which is a great source - if it is referring to the same Bill Haney as this one. This book entry appears to directly associate him with the Institute for Social Research at the University of Michigan, and if that is a specific named appointment at a university, it means he probably passes the notability guidelines for academics, which strengthens the support for having an article. Let me ping @DGG:, who is an expert on articles about academics, and see what he thinks. Ritchie333 16:36, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- First, he is possibly notable, at least under WP:PROF, for having written a widely used textbook in his field Communication and Organizational Behavior: Text and Cases. Homewood, Ill: Irwin, 1967, and a later edition in 1973 which counting all the editions is still held in about 800 libraries according to WorldCat, , and which had several reviews. That is, if he is indeed the author, because the article draft doesn't seem to mention it. If there are other academic publications, that needs to be said, so we can check if he was widely cited. It would help to have the exact title of his position at ISR, along with reliable third party documentation of it: however, it alone would not prove notability unless it was a named or distinguished full professorship, though a full professorship but not a lesser rank would be a strong indication of notability. I considered whether he might conceivably be also notable under WP:AUTHOT, but none of the other books he has written seems to be widely held in libraries, according to WorldCat. (as he published them under a variety of forms of his name, (Bill/William, with and without middle name/initial) I'm not sure I found all of them, but I checked the ones listed above.)
- As for notability otherwise. being head of a several minor publishing companies is not sufficient. I am unclear about his role in University of Michigan Press, which is a major publisher, and this would need citations: he was apparently not CEO, The various other executive positions are not CEOs of major companies, and do not show notability.
- The person of this name in the Boston Globe article does not seem to be him--the career does not match.
- In any event, the article is unacceptable as written, for exactly the reasons Richie gave. It is so much like a CV that I wonder if it is copied from some other source )which is not acceptable). It lists everything he ever did, starting with his high school years; this is not encyclopedic writing--a rational article in an encyclopedia. focusses on what is important. The books he published are not relevant, unless they were famous books where the fact that he published them is so significant as to have major critical comment--I doubt this is the case for any of them. His (routine) community service is not significant, any more than his taste in food, or the sequence of routine jobs as a technical writer. It basically would have to be rewritten from scratch. and even then, if the textbook is his one significant accomplishment, it would be borderline. Th3 guideline for accepting AfCs is whether it would have a reasonable chance of passing AfD, and it would have a chance. Whether it would be actually accepted even if optimally written is unpredictable, but I would accept it and let it take its chances. But if submitted as is, most admins would probably speeedy-delete it as promotional. DGG ( talk ) 20:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
DYK for The Allman Brothers Band (album)
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List of 1960s musical artists
Hi, I started this. Feel free to add more!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:55, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I've added a few off the top of my head. If I can find where on earth my Guinness book of 60s Music has gone, I'll go through that too. And if anyone says "why can't they make music like the 60s best sellers", ask if them if they mean Ken Dodd, who really was a 60s best seller! Ritchie333 10:54, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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Well done. SilkTork 15:00, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ritchie or SilkTork: were either of you planning on nomming this for DYK, or may I do the honours? Thanks, Matty.007 15:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- I have been known to DYK my own GAs, but if you want to do this, go for it! Ritchie333 16:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you! Nominated Template:Did you know nominations/Watford Gap services. Best, Matty.007 16:40, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- I have been known to DYK my own GAs, but if you want to do this, go for it! Ritchie333 16:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
A more detailed review?
Ritchie, I saw your comments at Megadeth's review page. Are you interested in giving the article a more detailed review, perhaps? You saw yourself that it lacks reviewers, and your input can only do well. So, are you in?--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 10:13, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'll have a look through if I can, though as I freely admit I find it difficult to comment on FA quality prose other than "I know it when I see it". Ritchie333 16:32, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
GA Review of At Fillmore East
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Thanks for the review! I've implemented nearly all suggestions. Some notes:
Thanks again! Thardin12 (talk) 19:32, 27 May 2014 (UTC) |
Beatles albums
Hey, saw that you guys got Sgt. Pepper to FA, so congratulations on that. By the way, are you getting Abbey Road to FA as well? I see that we got the ball a-rolling at the WikiProject Beatles.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 13:25, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- I put Abbey Road up for a PR here to zero response. Everyone was busy on Pepper. I haven't got time to get an article through FAC solo. Let's guinea-pig it for an A-class review! Ritchie333 13:28, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- For an album article, it's infeasible to get it to A-class because the Wiki Project Albums has never used that rating. On the contrary, there are several bands already rated A-class, so it's more likely to revive that idea rather than starting this thing with the albums. But anyway, if Megadeth doesn't get through the FA procedure, I'm sure that all of the parties involved there would agree that it should be an A-class article.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 13:36, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'll see if there's any further discussion on the rock music talk page, but I was thinking of checking The Who over and possibly using that as a pilot A class review drive. Anyway, regarding Abbey Road, I'm happy to publicise it a bit more and reopen the PR if people are up for it. Ritchie333 15:36, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- For an album article, it's infeasible to get it to A-class because the Wiki Project Albums has never used that rating. On the contrary, there are several bands already rated A-class, so it's more likely to revive that idea rather than starting this thing with the albums. But anyway, if Megadeth doesn't get through the FA procedure, I'm sure that all of the parties involved there would agree that it should be an A-class article.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 13:36, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
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You cannot close yourself
I realize that you don't want that article to be deleted. But you cannot close the Afd or any other request yourself. You have to ask an uninvolved administrator or even a user who has no involvement. Read WP:CLOSURE#Closure_procedure. OccultZone (Talk) 17:30, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- But WP:AFD#Withdrawing a nomination says "If no-one else has supported the deletion proposal and you change your mind about the nomination, you can withdraw it." Nobody had endorsed the deletion and discussion had run dry for a few days, so it was worth closing per WP:SNOW. You can cherry pick information pages or essays (since neither of those links were actual policies or guidelines) and use them to say that black is white, if you're so inclined! Ritchie333 09:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- There's a delete vote already. You still have to contact 3rd person, if they failed to close, then you may close, but that's the last move. I have notified Northamerica1000 to close this one. OccultZone (Talk) 09:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is now, but there wasn't when I withdrew. I'm sure I've done a similar thing in the past - Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/County of London Plan for example. Ritchie333 09:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- There's a delete vote already. You still have to contact 3rd person, if they failed to close, then you may close, but that's the last move. I have notified Northamerica1000 to close this one. OccultZone (Talk) 09:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Finishing the review
Hey Ritchie, just a reminder to wrap up your review on Megadeth's FAC. You don't need to go section by section as you started if you're busy right now; just leave some general recommendations on what should be corrected. Sorry for bothering you with this again!--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 21:56, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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- I got a second review which found far more issues (most of which will improve the article), so I've put it back on review for the minute. Ritchie333 13:26, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you
You have no idea what a triumph this is. I have no words to thank you. This article will definitely be improved. I now have to give thanks to the other two stellar, generous, beautiful wikipedia editors, who helped me achieve this wonderful triumph. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbara.steinberg (talk • contribs) 15:34, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- No problem. It does look like a useful and interesting article, particularly as it appears to contribute to racial integration. Ritchie333 16:09, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
THANK YOU/HELP WANTED
Hi, thank you for trying to start a discussion regarding Megadeth discography page, can you please please take a look at this and offer your opinion, after us both being unblocked the first thing Retrohead does is decide to falsify a claim about me and has sent me multiple messages of no meaning, after him calling me a troll, someone with no education and other things I am sick of it. Lukejordan02 (talk) 21:20, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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Megadeth
With hold due respect it seems you have made your mind up already that you are going to disagree with me and side with him, he has been personally attacking me now for days, which has caused me great stress and pushes me to bite back. Lukejordan02 (talk) 08:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you think that way - I'm just trying to calm the dispute down, though since I see the discussion has spilled over to ANI I fear it will now end in tears for somebody. If I were you, I'd just ignore him. Ritchie333 08:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- But why is he constantly reverted all my edits no matter what page they are on, he has tried 3 or 4 times to get me blocked even falsifying a claim (please take a look) Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring dispute it being very clear I was reverting vandalism, he has also called me a troll, a german word I can't remember what and an uneducated person, he has caused me so much stress, that I have today bites back (which I know I shouldn't have) Lukejordan02 (talk) 08:57, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- There's a thread on ANI, which means somebody will look at both sides of the conduct and determine what action should be taken. Remember that you both got blocked, so just because one person starts an ANI thread, there's no reason why sanctions may not fall against them too. See WP:BOOMERANG. I would, however, ask both of you to focus on content, not each other, and if you keep butting heads, it's probably worth one or both of you finding something else to edit. Ritchie333 10:01, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply and I appreciate what your trying to do, my mind has only ever been about the edits as I don't see the point in making things personal over the internet, do you understand why I removed the content, I hope you do as I AM NOT A VANDAL, I was just trying to tidy up the page and make it less untidy. Lukejordan02 (talk) 10:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Of course you're not a vandal. You made good faith attempts in your edits to do what you thought would improve the encyclopaedia. You both (and I have to emphasise that it was both of you - nobody took sides) got blocked for 24 hours so that other editors can look at the article and make a judgement call on what direction it can go, without getting disrupted by back and forth reverts on it. Ritchie333 10:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- thank you, I just don't like how retro isn't assuming good faith and has called me names such as a troll and uneducated, and his latest comment about how I should edit places where he isn't interested so I don't interfere with "his" work. I appreciate that he is trying to improve the page and have never thought otherwise but the last time I looked Misplaced Pages was for anyone to edit constructively. Lukejordan02 (talk) 10:29, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Lukejordan02, by now you should have realized what I've been trying to say to you. I'll put it in three simple numbers so that you can understand it without misinterpreting it:
1) Avoid clashing with more experienced editors (including me). How to do this? Well, let's see, how about playing with pages that they are not editing?
2) Don't slander the editor you diasgree with at other talk pages. This causes animosity and is time wasting.
3) When discussing on a certain theme, stick to it. This means when discussing Megadeth's discography, discuss Megadeth's discography (not the reports I've sent to ANI).
- Stick to these three bullets and you'll have no problems with whoever editor.--Retrohead (talk) 10:41, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
|m sorry but you have broken the rules just as much if not more than me.
- 1- Ritchie has already spoke about this.
- 2- you slander more than anyone you made up 2 reports, one of which was reverting vandalism which is exempt from the 3RR and two I didn't revert 3 times.
- 3- I have discussed the changes. Lukejordan02 (talk) 10:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diplomacy | |
For resolving the conflict at Megadeth discography. Wear it with pride. Retrohead (talk) 11:39, 10 June 2014 (UTC) |
Thanks. I take it from this that everyone's happy and the ANI report is no longer needed, so I've closed it. Ritchie333 11:44, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Good call. The user realized he was wrong with the Metallica albums and self-reverted him, so I closed the report for edit warring. I think I deserved a Wiki-break after this.--Retrohead (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Megadeth
Hi, could you please provide your opinion over at the Megadeth discography page, Retrohead thinks that the video albums should be listed in the albums section and I think that they should be listed in the video section because they are videos and it makes it clearer for people to view the page if all the music videos and videos are together and all of the albums are together, kind regards. Lukejordan02 (talk) 14:25, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- I can't see any discussion on the talk page, but to be honest it probably matters to the causal reader as much as whether or not I should have raspberry or strawberry jam on my toast for breakfast tomorrow. If you can't agree, flip a coin and whoever calls correctly gets it. Ritchie333 15:02, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, can you have a word with that user please, I gave in on his constant winning about the other things on the page and I don't see why I should on this when I know I am right, a coin toss isn't going to work here nor should I have to put it down to fate. Lukejordan02 (talk) 17:55, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Listen Ritchie333, I'm done talking to that "editor". Where can I report him so the admins can take a look at his "edits"? And one more thing, please don't put an equal mark between me (with ten GAs and two FAs) and him (who spents 99% of his time messing around with the band's discographies). It is indeed a Herculean task to cope with a 12 year old kid who hasn't heard of punctuation marks and capital leters and find "stressful" when other editos disagree with him.--Retrohead (talk) 18:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Look at your own fucking speech before you criticise others you stupid idiot, you are a bully, you think you own the Megadeth discography page and revert anything you don't agree with. I gave in to you regarding the formats and label numbers but I won't over this. Lukejordan02 (talk) 18:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
GULC
Which entries in the list do not have a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordreaper17 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Almost all of them! If you look at something like List of Hammond organ players, you'll notice every entry has a footnote somewhere which links to a reliable source such as a book, newspaper, magazine or some sort of web-based equivalent that justifies their inclusion in the list. The problem that arises if you don't cite each entry is that mistakes creep in, and list articles tend to be magnets for new editors to add to them, which means they get unwieldy. Ritchie333 17:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC)