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: Hey! Thanks for reminding this very important issue. The reported materials are rephrased a reworded-combination of ]s. The two sections (short-term and long-term) is my own invention and the structure is almost new. I already removed the mentioned parts. However, as you you are an IP, I can't discuss it with you in the ]. ] (]) 06:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC) : Hey! Thanks for reminding this very important issue. The reported materials are rephrased a reworded-combination of ]s. The two sections (short-term and long-term) is my own invention and the structure is almost new. I already removed the mentioned parts. However, as you you are an IP, I can't discuss it with you in the ]. ] (]) 06:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
::Hey! Thanks for being a dick and adding a warning template on an IP talk page instead of fixing your fuck up. Your mindbogglingly idiotic idea that the background section should follow the one editorial you read instead of countless other sources is superb. Way to fuck up a massive section in a highly read article you fucking dolt.

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Hadith of Persians and belief

Hi,

This deletion certainly occurred ages ago, so I admire you for even finding it! The article was deleted according to an AfD, the chief complaint against it being that it constituted "original research." I will restore the article and place it in your userspace at User:Mhhossein/Hadith of Persians and belief. This will allow you to salvage whatever content you think is useful. According to the content that is present in the article, this Hadith has no formal name. I would humbly suggest that you choose a name that sounds more natural in English, such as "Hadith regarding the Faith of the Persians." I have no idea whether such a name is supported in sources; I only know that the current title of the article sounds awkward in English, and that this poor title was cited in the AfD as among the reasons for deletion. Best wishes, Xoloz (talk) 20:34, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikilinking

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Tony (talk) 08:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding this point. I'll take this valuable point into account. Mhhossein (talk) 09:36, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Noureddin, Son of Iran for deletion

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Noureddin, Son of Iran

Hi.. it is ok to use sources in Persian/Farsi. If you can find any Persian/Farsi sources with Google. The more sources the better chance it will Keep. We can read it with Google Translate. Thank you. -- GreenC 14:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your useful comment. I will take it into account. The article deserves to be a wikipedia article.Mhhossein (talk) 19:01, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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I think you deserve this barnstar for adding much needed information to the ISIS article, particularly the section on ideology and beliefs. Well done! P123ct1 (talk) 09:13, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Ideology and beliefs (ISIS article)

I certainly agree that the new section should have greater prominence, but it could only be moved to a main heading near the beginning if it applied to all of ISIS's predecessor organisations (as listed in "Names & name changes"), because although the article calls itself "Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant", it is just as much about those organisations as it is about ISIS itself. If you feel confident that the "Ideology and beliefs" applies to all of them, I would go ahead and put it right near the beginning as a main section (although I guess some of the wording would have to be altered slightly). I am absolutely no expert on Middle East matters, so that would be for you to judge, but if you feel confident, why not do it and see? (I have chopped up and swapped around bits in this article and the al-Bagdhadi one mercilessly, and never had any complaints! Mind you I only did it when I felt on safe ground.) Even if people do object, at least it would get them thinking and realise how important the question of ideology and beliefs is in this case. To me the ideology is ultimately more important than the historical aspect, for it is that which drives events in all religious wars at all times in history. Personally I think this article is too history-biased as it stands now. If people object and say ideology and belief is for another article, I will support you; there should be at least some mention of it in an article like this. And, of course, now the caliphate has been established, this question of ideology becomes pre-eminently important. Be bold! --P123ct1 (talk) 14:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hey! The article is now edited and I've responded to the reviewer's comments. What should I do then? Mhhossein (talk) 04:53, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

ISIS revert

You mentioned me in your post on the Talk page as having reverted you. Please can you tell me what that was? I am not conscious of reverting anything. Was it the removal of "even"? The last thing I want to do is edit-war. I have restored your "even" to be on the safe side. I have not touched your new section on women. --P123ct1 (talk) 08:23, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

@Mhhossein: Of course I will support you in fighting back against all these reverts. You can report vandals/edit-wars at WP:Edit warring (see top of page), but I always find Misplaced Pages's Help sections mind-boggling complex, so perhaps it would be best to ask at the main Help desk at WP:HD how to go about it. Bad luck for getting hit by vandals, but good luck! Let me know what I can do to help. --P123ct1 (talk) 10:56, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Al-Risalah al-Dhahabiah

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A barnstar for you!

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this is for good help and editing pages on Islam. well done. Mehdi ghaed (talk) 21:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Copyright issue

I appreciate your attempt but the entire background section is still in violation. I've done it myself while adding info so I completely understand how hard it is. Fixing some of the wording is not sufficient. You plagiarized the structure as well. It needs to be removed and completely restructured or else you put Misplaced Pages in an inappropriate position. Furthermore, the piece used says a lot that could be disputed.Please remove/heavily edit it.


"Facts cannot be copyrighted. It is legal to read an encyclopedia article or other work, reformulate the concepts in your own words, and submit it to Misplaced Pages. But be careful not to closely paraphrase; the structure, presentation, and phrasing of the information should be your own original creation. The United States court of appeals noted in Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service that factual compilations of information may be protected with respect to "selection and arrangement, so long as they are made independently by the compiler and entail a minimal degree of creativity," as "he compilation author typically chooses which facts to include, in what order to place them, and how to arrange the collected data so that they may be used effectively by readers." You can use the facts, but unless they are presented without creativity (such as an alphabetical phone directory), you may need to reorganize as well as restate them to avoid substantial similarity infringement. It can be helpful in this respect to utilize multiple sources, which can provide a greater selection of facts from which to draw." - WP:COMPLIC (emphasis added)

Hey! Thanks for reminding this very important issue. The reported materials are rephrased a reworded-combination of wp:rss. The two sections (short-term and long-term) is my own invention and the structure is almost new. I already removed the mentioned parts. However, as you you are an IP, I can't discuss it with you in the article talk page. Mhhossein (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Hey! Thanks for being a dick and adding a warning template on an IP talk page instead of fixing your fuck up. Your mindbogglingly idiotic idea that the background section should follow the one editorial you read instead of countless other sources is superb. Way to fuck up a massive section in a highly read article you fucking dolt.