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User:Theyuusuf143 reported by User:AcidSnow (Result: retracted; subsequently blocked)
- Page
- Somaliland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Page
- Military of Somaliland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Theyuusuf143 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to (by me and others)
- Diffs of the user's reverts
One Somaliland:
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
One Talk Page (By me):
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
User is clearly not here to contribute this project. After informing them that he was edit warring, they instead choose to continue and on other pages as well. He has continued to add unsourced content on both pages and add his own personal opinion as well. AcidSnow (talk) 14:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note. AcidSnow, you failed to notify the user; I've done so for you. There are only three reverts at Somaliland (you listed two that are part of one revert). The user hasn't reverted at Somaliland since your warning although they did revert at the other article. Your notion of discussion with the new user is odd. "Can you please come to the talk page?" How is the user even supposed to know that you've posted that message (at both talk pages)?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:43, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, my bad and thanks! I am not sure what happen with forget their username though. AcidSnow (talk) 15:47, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- I have gone and fixed the talk page. Should I retract this report? I had planned to send this in when he broke 4 on one of those articles or if he continued to revert 3 times then move on to another page. AcidSnow (talk) 15:54, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, my bad and thanks! I am not sure what happen with forget their username though. AcidSnow (talk) 15:47, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- AcidSnow, please not that Theyuusuf143 is very new and is unlikely to be familiar with the collaborative norms of editing here. @Theyuusuf143: please take your concerns to the respective talk pages (click the "Talk" tab at the top of the article). Edit warring your preferred text will lead to your account being blocked. - 2/0 (cont.) 16:50, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well it looks like he does not care at all about the rules. He has been edit warring on Hargeisa and has made 5 reverts. He also plans to "desyroy all somalia especially punrland" . As we can clearly see he is not here to contribute to this project. AcidSnow (talk) 10:48, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 48 hours.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Alcatrazzrapper reported by User:Hell in a Bucket (Result: Malformed)
- Page
- Page-multi error: no page detected.
- User being reported
- Alcatrazzrapper (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
Unfortunately there is not one page that is an issue but since Late last year beginning of this year this editor has recieved multiple warnings on genre changes including 6iX Commandments several times and has continued despite several warnings to stop. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 06:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Declined – malformed report. Please use the "Click here to create a new report" link at the top of this page, which gives a template report, and provide complete diffs. If you want administrators to review a user's overall conduct, then you should take it to a different board. If you want us to look at edit warring across multiple articles, then you have to list the articles and the diffs for each.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- User:Bbb23 if you take a look at the talkpage it isn't rocket science, it is very minimal effort required to see all the warnings how long and what they are about. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Atlas-maker reported by User:Epeefleche (Result: Blocked)
Page: Synge Street CBS (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Atlas-maker (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: here, and here, and here
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: here
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours. I was a bit reluctant to block the user because, although he clearly violated WP:3RR, he appears to be leaving Misplaced Pages based on his last contribution to his user page about 12 hours ago. Still, I've seen users say they're leaving but then come back and, meanwhile, they managed to avoid the consequences of their actions.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Keysanger reported by User:Darkness Shines (Result: Article protected)
Page: War of the Pacific (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Keysanger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Slomo edit warring, sort it. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Uninvolved 3rd party here - here is a link to where they sorta tried to work this out. Here is the warning Darkness Shines issued. Frankly, I'm not sure why Darkness Shines wants to bring light to this issue, because it looks like he and Keysanger are equally guilty of edit warring, since they're just reverting each other back and forth. 0x0077BE 20:23, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Result: Article protected two months. This article has been in dispute for seven years. Use {{Edit protect}} to ask for changes that are supported by consensus. The other option would have been to block both parties. User:Darkness Shines must feel he doesn't have enough blocks already. This article has been the subject of many complaints at AN3 and at ANI over the years, but I haven't noticed any sustained admin attention to addressing the problems there. Arbcom has tackled Argentine History but that case has no overlap with this dispute (except for having at least one editor involved in both). Since User:Keysanger is one of the most senior editors working on this article it's disappointing to see how eager he is to revert. EdJohnston (talk) 20:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Soffredo reported by User:RGloucester (Result: )
- Page
- 2014 insurgency in Donbass (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Soffredo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 00:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 618741031 by RGloucester (talk) Why not use short names? For the "War of Transnistria" infobox, we list it as Transnistria despite not controlling all claimed territory."
- 23:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC) "But he's not representing Russia, which is also involved."
- 23:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC) ""
- 21:34, 27 July 2014 (UTC) ""
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 23:59, 27 July 2014 (UTC) "/* Flags in the Campaignbox Post-Soviet conflicts */ notice"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
- This user doesn't seem to "hear" what other people are saying. He repeatedly reinserts edits that multiple people revert, without ever trying to engage in a frank discussion. This is not the first time he has done this. I warned him of discretionary sanctions related to Eastern Europe-related articles, and yet he kept on reverting. I don't know that he needs a block, but I do know that someone needs to explain to him that it doesn't accomplish anything to revert without discussion, especially when multiple editors are saying that one's edit isn't appropriate. RGloucester — ☎ 01:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
User:S20003 reported by User:26oo (Result: Indeffed + master)
- Page
- Exclusive economic zone of Somalia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- S20003 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- Keeps removing cited work, vandalising.
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
- The user keeps blanking sections and replacing it with texts such as This page contains misleading information, and cannot stand. It should be challenged or deleted. I've messaged the user as well as having posted a message on the article talk page. I believe he's using a second account called User:K200003. 26oo (talk) 02:05, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- That's clearly him. AcidSnow (talk) 03:48, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Blocked. K is the master and S is the puppet. Both have been indeffed.--Bbb23 (talk) 08:50, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Tasnuva tahnin reported by User:APerson (Result: Locked)
Page: Surbhi Jyoti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Tasnuva tahnin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments: I'm a completely uninvolved editor who was notified of this on the IRC help channel. Tasnuva tahnin was never warned, and no discussion was carried out on the talk page. I think indefinite semi would be a good idea on the page, too; it's been an IP battleground for a while. APerson (talk!) 02:50, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Page protected (full) for one week. There have been a great many problems with non-autoconfirmed accounts. The reported editor is not autoconfirmed. However, the editor the reported editor has been battling with recently is autoconfirmed, and although that editor hasn't breached 3RR, I'm not inclined to block the reported user given the circumstances. He's also apologized on his talk page. I took an unusual step and reverted the last edits by a new user who made a BLP and formatting mess of the page. What concerns me is whether there's anyone editing this page who is sufficiently responsible to do so in a constructive manner; in other words, what's going to happen at the end of the week? My guess is a repeat of the chaos.--Bbb23 (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
24.36.80.217 reported by AcidSnow (Result: )
Page: Mashriq (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 24.36.80.217 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: Latest revision as of 06:58, 28 July 2014
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Revision as of 04:59, 25 January 2014
- Revision as of 06:55, 28 July 2014
- Revision as of 20:06, 3 July 2014
- Revision as of 07:50, 3 July 2014
- Revision as of 05:10, 7 June 2014
- Revision as of 04:35, 4 June 2014
- Revision as of 04:54, 30 May 2014
- Revision as of 06:28, 16 April 2014
- Revision as of 07:12, 12 April 2014
- Revision as of 06:17, 11 April 2014
- Revision as of 06:40, 5 February 2014
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
All though they have not broken 3Rv, they clearly are being disruptive and refuse to corporate no matter how many times told to. AcidSnow (talk) 07:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Since this is a very slow-burning edit war, and the reverts seem to have been prompt and left in place, what administrative action would change the situation? Short of a multi-week block, all I can think of is an new note requesting that the issues be discussed on the talk page -- SCZenz (talk) 08:59, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I see, can we protect the page at least? AcidSnow (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Page protected for a short time, and Pending Changes implemented indefinitely the panda ₯’ 16:17, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Lugnuthemvar reported by User:Shrike (Result: Blocked)
- Page
- 2006 Lebanon War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Lugnuthemvar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 10:03, 27 July 2014 (UTC) ""
- 12:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC) "Israel retreated. that's a fact and NPOV. the fact that you want it to be indecisive is an attempt to save face for the IDF. making it non NPOV"
- 15:22, 27 July 2014 (UTC) "stalemate is an POV view. withdrawal is fact. check your biases before you post"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 08:15, 28 July 2014 (UTC) "Warning: Violating the three-revert rule on 2006 Lebanon War. (TW)"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
The user was warned by admin not to edit war and yet he reverted after the warning Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 09:25, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 72 hours.--Bbb23 (talk) 09:41, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Zaca4 reported by User:Damián80 (Result: )
Page: What Life Stole from Me (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Zaca4 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Comments:
The user Zaca4, appears to be a puppet Sky0000 (I have requested a verification of accounts). You have started an edit war in the article mentioned only to add information without references and irrelevant. A month ago to explain it in a thousand ways and not seem to mind, I think the user Sky0000 has returned with a new puppet.--Damián (talk) 12:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Let me talk too. I haven't done more than 3 edits there, but he is. I asked from him information , what I do wrong and how I go against rules. He didn't even answer me. Understand, please my edits are necessary, and he hasn't explained me, what I do wrong. I'm very sorry. Zaca4 (talk) 13:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I notice that Damián80 was recently reported for edit warring on another telenovella page here, after three reversions. I think both parties need to review WP:BRD here. Neither party is even using edit summaries. 0x0077BE 13:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- @0x0077BE:, That has to do with this?, Is that case is trying to support the other user?. First I need not explain anything to this person, as it is a puppet of another user who was blocked for a month for this reason. Add death of each character is irrelevant, if wikipedia is to be placed everything that happened in each chapter in a soap opera?. To entertain that come here. For to this you should not come to any consensus. If someone has to know how to die urgency of each character in a soap opera, as you see it, that's why it was created!. Always have placed the characters and the actors. This information that the user attempts to add is irrelevant. So I ask you, if you agree that this information will be added, he believes that wikipedia will become?.--Damián (talk) 16:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- The mention of the previous incident shows that you're aware of the policies on edit warring, and have a tendency to ignore WP:BRD. Regarding the content, that's not an issue for this page. Read WP:BRD. You need to at least try to work it out on the talk page before running for administrative action. You aren't explaining it just to Zaca4, you're explaining it to everyone else who is trying to figure out why editorial decisions were made. 0x0077BE 16:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I say you , too Damian, what that Sky0000 user thing has to do with this problem. I don't know that person. Also if watcher didn't see a few episodes, and he doesn't have chance to watch episodes again, person comes to Misplaced Pages. Also Damian has deleted united states broadcast from many articles without no reason. Why it disturbed you now? Before it you took all information from cast and then broadcast disturbed you. Please, understand, that person thinks that Misplaced Pages's for him, but it's for everyone. I just want to help other people. Also I viewed his talk page archive too, he's been in a lot of edit-wars before also. Also I did also my own article about cast in Corazon Valiente, and he even does not let me refer to it, he says it is poorly written, but maybe for other people it is not. Understand, that person just wants to have fun in wikipedia and wants to look articles like he wants and when someone is trying to hinder him, he comes here and says bad about others. Also I looked to internet, I didn't find such a good programming guides as they were in wikipedia. Please I'm not trying to slander him but I tell how things really look like. Also I'm very sorry for my behavior but with that person is impossible to talk. I hope you understand me. Zaca4 (talk) 16:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- No need to add this type of information, this user a month ago did the same article, and I'm sorry, but I will not be trying all the time to reach a conseso so unnecessary to add information to each art.
A month ago this person did this:
- La impostora June 24, 2014
- June 25, 2014
- Sky0000 (talk | contribs) . . (28,506 bytes) (+1,125) . . (Adding necessary section)
Is it that these edits are correct? and should discuss this in all pages of discussion?.--Damián (talk) 17:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Second Comment: As of this point, Damian is at 5 reverts (1 2 3 4 5) and Zaca4 is now at 3 (1 2 3). Damian is in clear violation of 3RR. Zaca4 is probably guilty of edit warring as well, given the notice. 0x0077BE 17:11, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- It's like you two want, and leave the article as it was before, and mine are not 5 reversals learn to look good. I'm tired of this and this user, all here everyone does what he wants..--Damián (talk) 17:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Already Placed the article "Corazón valiente" as I was before, as presumably are very important items were.e. I tired to continue wasting time user you do what you want.--Damián (talk) 17:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- It's like you two want, and leave the article as it was before, and mine are not 5 reversals learn to look good. I'm tired of this and this user, all here everyone does what he wants..--Damián (talk) 17:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: After Damian self-reverted and decided to "give up", I, explaining my reasoning, restored the page to the version before Zaca4's version, as that was the stable version and didn't have the style and grammar issues, and requested that Zaca4 please justify any further edits in the talk page. Zaca4 then performed his 4th revert on the page, with the "explanation" on the talk page given being: "Can you let me keep that information, here okay?". I do suspect he may be doing some editing as IP, but it doesn't seem to be to create a false consensus or avoid 3RR. 0x0077BE 20:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- The user Zaca4 has not reached a consensus on the article where the edit war began, and started again.
Has not yet reached an agreement to add this type of irrelevant information. And the user wants to start more wars editions.--Damián (talk) 06:45, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- I add this other article that has already started another edit war Part of Me (telenovela): Revision history.--Damián (talk) 07:18, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I didn't start a war, I just made some changes. I am a victim of Damian. Look at all pages, when someone wants to change something always Damian undoes it without no reason. That person harms Misplaced Pages and makes false accusations. I am sorry for all, I maybe will not continue, but I'm not only one, who is guilty, Damian is too. He thinks some pathetic justifications to explain his reverts. Please do something with him, I am really sorry for all but this person thinks that I am again a user, who doesn't let him have fun in Misplaced Pages and who he has to remove with some false accusations. I don't want to start a war but that is not fair that one person does here what he wants and nobody stops him. Also he said me do what you want and now he comes here and says that I am here to start a war. I hope that you understand me. Zaca4 (talk) 07:58, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Verification of accounts that have asked tell the truth, you are a puppet Sky0000, edited in the same way. A month ago I explained on your issues and you do not seem to mind. Also on July 25 just blocking.--Damián (talk) 09:04, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I may admit yes Sky0000 and Zaca4 have same IP, but I don't confirm, that behind them is same person. I am sorry for my behaviour, I promise, I will not touch telenovelas again and please I don't want another month or more, forgive me. That's your decision you punish Damian or me or no. But I say I am not and I won't be first or last person , who has problems with Damian. I hope you understand and you let other better people make changes in telenobela pages. I refuse to do it, I do not want any more problems. Really sorry. Zaca4 (talk) 10:04, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Tomwikiman reported by User:Theironminer (Result: )
Page: Collateral (film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Tomwikiman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
I'm new to wikipedia, so this is my second report on a user, but I'm not 100% clear on how this works. There was a user who kept repeatedly editing the genre for a movie on a page and never stopped. User has been asked to stop but has not responded and continued to edit the genre.
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
User:46.7.249.19 reported by User:Middayexpress (Result:36 hours )
Page: Burao (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 46.7.249.19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Revision as of 14:08, 28 July 2014
- Revision as of 15:01, 28 July 2014
- Revision as of 15:18, 28 July 2014
- Revision as of 16:28, 28 July 2014
- Revision as of 17:26, 28 July 2014
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: ,
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Apparent block evading ip sock of User:Theyuusuf143. Began disrupting the same pages a few minutes after the main account was blocked for 3RR. Along with the just blocked socks User:S20003 and User:K200003, appears to be a meatpuppet associated with the indefinitely banned User:Reer Woqooyi. Also see here ("its mine (somaliland) not for somalia, somaliland army is watching you online, just like we defeated you on the ground") and here ("And yes I asked people on a blog to come and edit some pages"). Middayexpress (talk) 18:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 36 hours Blocked this editor yesterday at 18:14, 28 July 2014 without knowing about this report. Dougweller (talk) 10:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Eric Corbett reported by User:Bloodofox (Result: Pointless squabble)
Page: Kelpie (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Eric Corbett (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- (—reversion of edits by @Kiyoweap:, which were not "vandalism" as Eric states, but rather tags primarily for poor sourcing issues raised on the talk page })
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: (here's the mandatory template: )
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: (discussion here; note also that edit summaries above repeatedly request user to continue using the talk page rather than simply remove article issue tags)
Comments:
This is part of an ongoing issue involving problematic sourcing on the Kelpie article, which was recently a featured article. However, when the article became featured, it was clear that it didn't receive the scrutiny it needed; references to the pseudoscience of cryptozoology were employed and numerous issues relating to sourcing have been raised since. Eric appears to have been a major contributor to the state of the article at that time, and these reversions seem to be related to that fact. :bloodofox: (talk) 18:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Your supposed to link to the 3rr warning you issued, and then where they reverted after you issued it. You still haven't issued a 3rr warning, and Eric hasn't edited the article subsequent to your notice of the discussion here. Furthermore, the 3rr rule is not an entitlement to edit war until you hit it, so you are just as guilty of edit warring as Eric is. Monty845 18:49, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- What, beyond text in an edit summary warning about revert amounts, qualifies as a "3RR warning"? As you can see, Eric edited after that. This doesn't count as a 3RR "warning"? I certainly didn't violate 3RR, and my edits repeatedly ask him to discuss it on the talk page—where I was discussing the issue—rather than simply reverting page issue templates. I'm also unclear about what has happened in the policy; in the past it's been pretty cut and dry—over 3 reverts and it's a block—but apparently that has changed? :bloodofox: (talk) 18:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- ...how embarrassing. I suggest you read up on it a bit more before coming here and throwing accusations around. Cassianto 18:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Generally we prefer to see a {{uw-3rr}} (or non-template equivalent message if you subscribe to WP:DTR), or at least a {{uw-ew}} followed by the editor continuing to edit war. The idea is to make sure that there is no question they were aware that continuing was a violation of policy, and that they then proceeded to do so. Intentionally edit warring up to 3rr, is still edit warring, and that you reported it here shows you knew you were participating in an edit war. Monty845 18:59, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- What, beyond text in an edit summary warning about revert amounts, qualifies as a "3RR warning"? As you can see, Eric edited after that. This doesn't count as a 3RR "warning"? I certainly didn't violate 3RR, and my edits repeatedly ask him to discuss it on the talk page—where I was discussing the issue—rather than simply reverting page issue templates. I'm also unclear about what has happened in the policy; in the past it's been pretty cut and dry—over 3 reverts and it's a block—but apparently that has changed? :bloodofox: (talk) 18:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I was discussing it on the talk page page with your tag-team colleague Kiyoweap, who had yet to respond, which is why I consider your repeated insertion of these defacing tags to be vandalism. Added to which neither you nor Kiyoweap have even the vaguest idea what you're talking about. Eric Corbett 19:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Eric, as we apparently don't need to go this route, let's just keep the sand in the sand box (Kelpie talk page) so we can all play together like nice kids. We can discuss your choice of sourcing there. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- We were already discussing it there. This isn't a route I chose, it's the one that you've chosen. Eric Corbett 19:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Eric, as we apparently don't need to go this route, let's just keep the sand in the sand box (Kelpie talk page) so we can all play together like nice kids. We can discuss your choice of sourcing there. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I was discussing it on the talk page page with your tag-team colleague Kiyoweap, who had yet to respond, which is why I consider your repeated insertion of these defacing tags to be vandalism. Added to which neither you nor Kiyoweap have even the vaguest idea what you're talking about. Eric Corbett 19:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- So let me be clear about this (I've been editing on and off for around for several years, and there certainly have been changes to this situation since I was last pretty active on Misplaced Pages). So, "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of the this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours" no longer applies? It's still at the top of the page, and this doesn't seem to fall under the "exceptions". And there is "preferred" means of warning another user before they hit that cap that, without use, invalidates 3RR? And, to be clear, since I'm reporting this in the first place, I'm guilty of edit warring, despite repeatedly asking the other user to take it to the talk page? Given Cassianto (talk · contribs)'s response, I'm guessing we don't have a civility policy anymore either... :bloodofox: (talk) 19:06, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- The point of the policy is not to block as many people as possible, but to stop the edit warring. That said, its also important not to let 3rr be used by one editor to "win" an edit war by getting the other editor blocked. Eric may well end up getting blocked for his violation of 3rr, but its also clear from the page history that you have a history of edit warring with Eric on this topic before today. You come here with unclean hands. Monty845 19:16, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Has there been an amount of discussion over changing the wording that I quote above? It seems like this policy doesn't really reflect how it's worded on this page anymore, which does indeed seem as cut and dry as I recall it being in the past. If this was all spelled out above, I wouldn't be wasting anyone's time with it (above it says, for example, "consider warning them by placing on their user talk page"—note consider). :bloodofox: (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Some admins are just more eager to block for 3rr violations than others. Personally, I like to make sure an editor has been given ample chances (such as the warning) to cut it out before resorting to a block. In the past I've warned editors with 7+ reverts, and only blocked them if they continued after the warning. My goal is to not block a good faith editor if there is any way to avoid it. That said, because there are admins who do more aggressively enforce 3rr, its best for editors to know that they are always at risk of being blocked when they violate it. If an admin chooses to block Eric in this instance, it would be within their discretion under the 3rr rule. Monty845 19:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Bloodofox: - Seriously? Read the rest of the policy:
- The three-revert rule applies per person, not per account; reverts made by multiple accounts operated by one editor count together. Editors violating 3RR will usually be blocked for 24 hours for a first incident. Even without a 3RR violation, an administrator may still act if they believe a user's behavior constitutes edit warring, and any user may report edit warring with or without 3RR being breached. The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times.
- The bolding is in the original, not mine, but it's exactly what I would have emphasized to explain this to you. Just because you're discussing it and reverting doesn't mean you're not edit warring.0x0077BE 19:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Has there been an amount of discussion over changing the wording that I quote above? It seems like this policy doesn't really reflect how it's worded on this page anymore, which does indeed seem as cut and dry as I recall it being in the past. If this was all spelled out above, I wouldn't be wasting anyone's time with it (above it says, for example, "consider warning them by placing on their user talk page"—note consider). :bloodofox: (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- The point of the policy is not to block as many people as possible, but to stop the edit warring. That said, its also important not to let 3rr be used by one editor to "win" an edit war by getting the other editor blocked. Eric may well end up getting blocked for his violation of 3rr, but its also clear from the page history that you have a history of edit warring with Eric on this topic before today. You come here with unclean hands. Monty845 19:16, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- So let me be clear about this (I've been editing on and off for around for several years, and there certainly have been changes to this situation since I was last pretty active on Misplaced Pages). So, "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of the this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours" no longer applies? It's still at the top of the page, and this doesn't seem to fall under the "exceptions". And there is "preferred" means of warning another user before they hit that cap that, without use, invalidates 3RR? And, to be clear, since I'm reporting this in the first place, I'm guilty of edit warring, despite repeatedly asking the other user to take it to the talk page? Given Cassianto (talk · contribs)'s response, I'm guessing we don't have a civility policy anymore either... :bloodofox: (talk) 19:06, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Bloodofox, did I see you say that you consider something you said in an edit summary to have been an appropriate 3RR notification to another editor? No way. Edit summaries are to give a summary of your edit - not to make direct communication with another editor, especially for the purposes of providing a formal warning the panda ₯’ 19:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I don't want to get off on a technicality. A formal warning would have made no difference to me anyway, as I consider the addition of defacing tags to a recently promoted FA to be vandalism. Eric Corbett 19:59, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- WP:BRD applies here too. After Eric reverted the addition of the tags, the next step is to discuss whether they're appropriate, not to simply replace them. This is especially the case on a featured article. Black Kite (talk) 20:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think they qualify as vandalism as defined by WP:VANDAL, but tagging an FA or any article that has been reviewed by so many people is never a good idea until you have first discussed the concern. We don't give special privilege to FA articles per se, but the very act of passing it means several people think it isn't a problem and that has to be taken into consideration. If you tag and it is reverted, you should have the good sense to discuss adding it back before reverting again. Otherwise, it seems WP:POINTy, as it obvious that more than one person disagrees with you, even before you put the tag up. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 20:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Probably not, but it's vandalism as far as I'm concerned nevertheless. Eric Corbett 20:15, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- As the warring has stopped, the tags have been reverted off and it is being discussed (via WP:BRD) by both parties, I don't see a need to start blocking people just for the sake of blocking people, as there isn't anything to prevent. I think this just needs to go back to the article talk page and be closed, with everyone learning a bit of a lesson what is and isn't warring for the future. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 20:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think we can all assume that Eric has been around long enough to know about 3RR; complaining that he didn't get a formal warning is quite tenuous. Also, this is clearly not even remotely close to vandalism (per WP's definition of the word). Finally, there have been some (brief) talk page discussions about the tagging. Two editors agree that the tags are valid, and Eric disagrees. Seems to me that Eric is edit warring against consensus, even if it is a rather small, local consensus. Not every article has hundreds of contributors watching it, ready to participate in a discussion, so sometimes 2-3 editors is all you get to determine consensus. Since Eric clearly violated 3RR, I believe he should receive a 24-hour block, like any other normal editor would. Of course, we all know that won't happen, because of Eric's privileged status on this site. And therefore, we will perpetuate Eric's belief that he is exempt from most rules (even the ones that are clear-cut and strictly defined). ‑Scottywong| converse _ 20:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- No surprise to see you here campaigning for a block, but three points:
- Where have you see me complaining about the lack of a formal warning?
- Where have you got the idea from that I'm the only one in dispute with Bloodofox?
- What exactly do you think a 24-hour block would be likely to achieve? Eric Corbett 20:34, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I never claimed that either of your first two points were true. I never said that you complained about the lack of a formal warning, and I never claimed that you are the only person engaged in a dispute with Bloodofox. As for your last point, a 24-hour block would reinforce the fact that we actually have rules here, and when those rules are broken, the appropriate consequences are handed out as a result. This would achieve an outcome where editors are less likely to break the rules in the future, since they would know that the strictly defined rules of WP are actually enforced. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 21:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Only in your dreams Scottywong. Eric Corbett 21:26, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. Consistently enforcing the strictly defined rules of WP is a very lofty and unrealistic goal. ‑Scottywong| confer _ 21:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Only in your dreams Scottywong. Eric Corbett 21:26, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I never claimed that either of your first two points were true. I never said that you complained about the lack of a formal warning, and I never claimed that you are the only person engaged in a dispute with Bloodofox. As for your last point, a 24-hour block would reinforce the fact that we actually have rules here, and when those rules are broken, the appropriate consequences are handed out as a result. This would achieve an outcome where editors are less likely to break the rules in the future, since they would know that the strictly defined rules of WP are actually enforced. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 21:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- That's not particularly helpful Scotty, and frankly it's soapboxing and drama mongering. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 20:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your opinion. I disagree that enforcing the strictly defined rules of Misplaced Pages is soapboxing and drama mongering. Perhaps we just need to adapt the wording of 3RR to reflect the reality of when it is and isn't followed. I would suggest adding something to effect of: "Brand new editors are typically blocked immediately upon crossing the bright line of 3RR. Established editors (especially ones that have been blocked dozens of times in the past) are generally given the benefit of the doubt, even if they cross the bright line, especially if they are politically connected with administrators, or if they have become WP:INVOLVED with the majority of active administrators." ‑Scottywong| converse _ 21:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- If we were policemen or judges, then maybe that would make sense, but we aren't here to dispense justice, only to solve problems. Oh, and write articles. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 21:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Do you agree that if rules were consistently enforced, it would prevent editors from breaking them? In other words, if violating 3RR always resulted in a minimum 24-hour block, regardless of the situation or who the editor is, would that result in a reduction in edit warring among established editors? Would that reduction in edit warring be beneficial to the project? Do you believe that blocking Eric would not be preventive, because Eric has shown that blocks have no effect on his behavior? ‑Scottywong| express _ 21:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- No Scotty, I don't. If that were the case, we could replace admin with bots. Plus bots never have axes to grind. We use humans because every situation is different and requires judgement. We pick humans to find the best solution to a problem. When you take a hardass approach to problems, you just reinforce the idea that they don't matter, they are nothing but little text generators, and if they punch up the wrong column too many times, we are going to fucking spank you and document that spanking in your
spankblock log. No thanks. I think we treat them like we want to be treated, as fallible human beings that will screw up from time to time. Once put on notice, as long as they don't screw up again, then no harm is done. If you do it again, oh well, you give us no choice but to block. Block is the last resort, not the first. Your lack of empathy is alarming sometimes. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 22:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)- The only human analysis that is required in the case of 3RR is to determine whether the editor was reverting vandalism. Beyond that analysis, the decision could be carried out by a bot. There is a reason that we describe 3RR using the phrase "bright line". The problem with adopting a more "human" approach to the application of strict rules is that if the humans are impartial. And, if the editor violating 3RR happens to be friends with the human admin analyzing the situation, then that editor enjoys increased flexibility in breaking the rules. The most laughable part of your comments above is how we need to put Eric "on notice" before blocking him. Which of the previous dozens of blocks would you consider not putting Eric "on notice"? How many "notices" does an editor get before we can reasonably assume that he is aware of the rules and is consciously breaking them anyway, because he knows he can get away with it because people like you consciously allow it? The corruption of your character is alarming sometimes, as is your lack of impartiality and sense of fairness. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 22:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- No Scotty, I don't. If that were the case, we could replace admin with bots. Plus bots never have axes to grind. We use humans because every situation is different and requires judgement. We pick humans to find the best solution to a problem. When you take a hardass approach to problems, you just reinforce the idea that they don't matter, they are nothing but little text generators, and if they punch up the wrong column too many times, we are going to fucking spank you and document that spanking in your
- Do you agree that if rules were consistently enforced, it would prevent editors from breaking them? In other words, if violating 3RR always resulted in a minimum 24-hour block, regardless of the situation or who the editor is, would that result in a reduction in edit warring among established editors? Would that reduction in edit warring be beneficial to the project? Do you believe that blocking Eric would not be preventive, because Eric has shown that blocks have no effect on his behavior? ‑Scottywong| express _ 21:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- If we were policemen or judges, then maybe that would make sense, but we aren't here to dispense justice, only to solve problems. Oh, and write articles. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 21:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your opinion. I disagree that enforcing the strictly defined rules of Misplaced Pages is soapboxing and drama mongering. Perhaps we just need to adapt the wording of 3RR to reflect the reality of when it is and isn't followed. I would suggest adding something to effect of: "Brand new editors are typically blocked immediately upon crossing the bright line of 3RR. Established editors (especially ones that have been blocked dozens of times in the past) are generally given the benefit of the doubt, even if they cross the bright line, especially if they are politically connected with administrators, or if they have become WP:INVOLVED with the majority of active administrators." ‑Scottywong| converse _ 21:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- No surprise to see you here campaigning for a block, but three points:
- And there lies the real reason as to why your persisting in this; the good old Eric witch hunt! Cassianto 22:01, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I don't know the ins/outs nor correct procedures in this sort of situation - so my apologies if I'm acting incorrectly. I'm sure many are aware of Bloodofox's previous antagonism of Eric (I know I have seen Bloodofox state that if anyone requires help to go after Eric to contact him but unfortunately cannot find it at the moment, it was around the time there was a dispute concerning Malkin Tower. Bloodofox also reported Eric for 3RR at that time ). Kelpie is a featured article, Bloodofox maintains that one source used (Varner) is, in his opinion, an unreliable source. However, this source was found via Questia, a resource WMF has negotiated for editors to gain access to. Kyioweap decided this morning to tag every ref to Varner determining it, in their opinion, 'a weak source'. Why would Eric or I be expected to find additional sources when neither of us feel Varner is inappropriate/unreliable? SagaciousPhil - Chat 20:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think this discussion should be speedily closed, or is it being deliberately kept open because Eric is the subject? Cassianto 21:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think Scottywong is making that abundantly clear. Eric Corbett 22:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I see you've acquired a new pawn. Congrats. ‑Scottywong| chat _ 22:26, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think Scottywong is making that abundantly clear. Eric Corbett 22:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- If that remark is directed at me, Scottywong - think again - I am no bodies 'pawn', never have been and never will be. Your remark is offensive, un-necessary and certainly un-becoming of an Administrator. SagaciousPhil - Chat 22:41, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- To be clear, my remark was directed at Cassianto. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 23:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- If that remark is directed at me, Scottywong - think again - I am no bodies 'pawn', never have been and never will be. Your remark is offensive, un-necessary and certainly un-becoming of an Administrator. SagaciousPhil - Chat 22:41, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Scotty, you need to stop, now. That is over the line badgering. Your behavior here is more disruptive than the little tit-for-tat on the article. You need to find something more productive to do. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 22:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Scottywong, porting your old grudges here has been unhelpful from beginning to end. Also you don't get to issue personal attacks just because you're an admin, such as calling Cassianto or Sagaciousphil (I took you to be referring to Cassianto, but your arrow was too wobbly for me to be sure) Eric's "pawn". Would you like a formal warning? Please note that I for my part don't normally post on Eric's page nor do I take take his side or anybody's side in the civility wars (in fact, fuck the civility wars), so if you're going to call me part of his entourage or whatever, we'll need diffs. Bishonen | talk 22:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC).
- Bishonen, I honestly have no idea who you are, so I couldn't possibly make a judgment as to whether or not you take anyone's side over and over again, finding a way to bend the rules for them every time their name comes up in a dispute. If you believe I deserve or require a formal warning or a block or some other consequence for my transgressions, then you don't need to seek my permission. But, I must admit that I'm rather confused by your admonishment for a perceived personal attack while in the next breath exclaiming, "fuck the civility wars". ‑Scottywong| gossip _ 23:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I"ve left a notice on your talk page Scotty. Calling my character corrupt, I consider that a personal attack, so you need to either back it up, or strike it. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 23:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- In reality, I don't actually need to do anything. Nor do I intend to. ‑Scottywong| gossip _ 23:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- So that's personal attacks on two separate editors in this discussion because they disagree with you? Do you think that's even slightly becoming of an administrator? Black Kite (talk) 23:26, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- In reality, I don't actually need to do anything. Nor do I intend to. ‑Scottywong| gossip _ 23:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I"ve left a notice on your talk page Scotty. Calling my character corrupt, I consider that a personal attack, so you need to either back it up, or strike it. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 23:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Bishonen, I honestly have no idea who you are, so I couldn't possibly make a judgment as to whether or not you take anyone's side over and over again, finding a way to bend the rules for them every time their name comes up in a dispute. If you believe I deserve or require a formal warning or a block or some other consequence for my transgressions, then you don't need to seek my permission. But, I must admit that I'm rather confused by your admonishment for a perceived personal attack while in the next breath exclaiming, "fuck the civility wars". ‑Scottywong| gossip _ 23:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Is it time for the semi-annual pointless "Eric" squabble??? Surely ya'll have heard "insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."? Can't we just skip to the end where everyone gets tired and disgusted (of the stupid squabble, not Eric per-se) and gives it up? Or do we have exchange barbs for hours to days and then give it up? NE Ent 23:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Its already been going for days. Started at WT:AN a couple days ago. There are still some offshoots of that brewing. Monty845 23:24, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Please note that I have taken this issue to WP:ANI. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 23:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Let's close this as discussion is ongoing at the talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
User:FelixRosch reported by User:Moxy (Result: )
Page: Figure skating at the 2014 Winter Olympics – Ladies' singles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: FelixRosch (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
- - July 24, 2014 - (about Chronological sequence)
- - July 24, 2014
- - July 24, 2014
- - July 25, 2014
- - July 25, 2014
- - July 26, 2014
- - July 26, 2014
- - July 28, 2014
- Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as an edit-warring violation
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: was warned months ago that this behavior is not the norm here. As seen on the users talk page - many concerns have been raised over a period of time.
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: FelixRosch has been involved in some talk page discussions but seem not to be willing to listen to others or perhaps simply does not understand. -- Moxy (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Comments:
- The editor is also involved in other edit wars on multiple pages as seen by the Ukraine: Revision history and Romeo and Juliet: Revision history. We have unacceptable, disruptive, tendentious and dishonest behavior..that could all just be a competence problem as recently pointed out here. Talk:Romeo and Juliet#Criticize the play before it was written again? and Talk:Ukraine#Declarations of War and Casualty/Death toll statistics are not censored by Misplaced Pages policy demonstrates his lack of understand of whats going on pretty well. -- Moxy (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Since I made the competence remark I want to add it did not come out of the blue, but rather was the result of seeing many head-scratching remarks from this editor. He finally seemed to get BRD (perhaps) but adds this. I didn't know Andrew Lih (who has no connection to the discussions whatsoever) holds such an exalted position here. --NeilN 23:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Only involved on the Ukraine talk page, but user does have some issues understanding policy such as WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTNEWS. In general, editing is becoming tendentious on Ukraine. Similar experience a few months ago on Russia, which I have since stopped following to preserve my mental health. While I cannot fully comment on edit warring accusations, there's certainly a lot of WP:IDHT and general tendentiousness. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:20, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Like EvergreenFir, my only interaction with the editor has been through the Ukraine article and the Russia article (see identical editing practices in April) where s/he avoided discussion on the talk page and persevered with adding content contravening UNDUE, NOTNEWS and WP:BALASPS despite lengthy discussions on the talk page demonstrating consensus that these policies and guidelines were of primary concern, particularly in the context of the articles. Once forced into discussions, judging by the lack of comprehension of policies and thrust of the discussions, as already noted by Moxy and NeilN, I've also found myself wondering as to the competence of this user. It's difficult to ascertain whether this is a case of IDHT or truly IDONTUNDERSTANDIT. Either way, it amounts to ongoing disruptive editing. As an addendum, further to the question of competence, I've yet to work out where
"... the normal time frame of 48-72 hours should be allowed for the discussion comments to be collected of all editors involved."
Where did the user find this timeframe for BRD processes? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:11, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Gibson Flying V reported by User:Bagumba (Result: )
- Page
- Rugby league (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Gibson Flying V (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 03:46, 29 July 2014 (UTC) "Reverted 1 edit by 2001:8003:440F:9B01:223:32FF:FE9E:4B9F (talk) to last revision by Gibson Flying V. (TW)"
- 03:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC) "Reverted 2 edits by 2001:8003:440F:9B01:223:32FF:FE9E:4B9F (talk) to last revision by Gibson Flying V. (TW)"
- 03:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 618910916 by 2001:8003:440F:9B01:223:32FF:FE9E:4B9F (talk)"
- 11:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 618663075 by 2001:8003:440F:9B01:223:32FF:FE9E:4B9F (talk)"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 04:06, 29 July 2014 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Rugby league. (TW)"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
Longtime editor of over 7 years is expected to know better. Has been blocked three times before for edit warring/disruptive editing, and has an active topic ban for disruptive editing in another sport area, association football. Editor is also attempting to bully the other editor by giving inappropriate vandalism warnings when IP's edit summary provided an explanation. This is a content dispute and not vandalism. —Bagumba (talk) 04:19, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Similar edits from 2001:8003:440F:9B01:223:32FF:FE9E:4B9F being reverted by two other users previously: 1 2 The most cursory look at the edits in question reveals that they are inappropriate. They had also been discussed on my talk page. Therefore consistently undoing their reversion is quite clearly disruptive. User:Bagumba has a habit of involving him/herself with my edits. Not sure why. Probably due to previous content disputes between us. Stalking?--Gibson Flying V (talk) 04:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- "habit of involving him/herself with my edits": I consider it an occupational hazard of keeping this a civil place. The revert you showed by the other editor gave the reason "No reason to delete a referenced entry". The IP subsequently provided a reason, and nobody but yourself has reverted since, nor edit warred with the IP except for yourself. WP:VANDNOT policy is quite clear: "Bold edits, though they may precede consensus or be inconsistent with prior consensus, are not vandalism unless other aspects of the edits identify them as vandalism." Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 04:44, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- As I said, "the most cursory look at the edits in question reveals that they are inappropriate." Cheers.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 04:46, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Meanwhile, since being warned I have stopped editing the article, whereas the intended target of this report has not, and their disruption has now been reverted by a 3rd editor.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 09:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Kayastha Shiromani II reported by User:Redtigerxyz (Result: 36 Hours )
Page: Kayastha (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Kayastha Shiromani II (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
In my defense, I have been inviting editors for discussion but no one seemed interested. The page has been subject to recent edit wars and I had reverted it to an earlier stable version. A topic has been started by me on the talk page and I would take this opportunity to again advice the editors to act responsibly and not aggressively. --का.शि.. Kayastha Shiromani , The Second. (talk) 11:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- See Talk:Kayastha#Discussion_on_current_version_of_this_Article_https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fw.2Findex.php.3Ftitle.3DKayastha.26oldid.3D618943617 User:Arjayay as well as I have attempted to discuss. The alleged "an earlier stable version" is not actually an earlier version, but a new version added by you. Redtigerxyz 11:56, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment by JJ: Invitation? Walk your talk, and discuss, instead of revert. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:38, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Relax, my friend. This is in fact one of the most stable version which stayed on for many years on wikipedia with minor changes here and there. Here is one instance https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Kayastha&oldid=277047083. I thank you for crediting me with such scholarship. Also you can find the article in sync with this primary authentic source published in 1877. http://books.google.co.in/books?id=AH0IAAAAQAAJ&pg=PP9&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false. You are most welcome. --का.शि.. Kayastha Shiromani , The Second. (talk) 12:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 36 hours regentspark (comment) 14:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
User:77.97.151.145 reported by User:Ritchie333 (Result: Blocked )
Page: Talk:Sega Genesis (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 77.97.151.145 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: (note as this is a war on a talk page, discussion took place on user's talk page)
Comments: Attempt to start an RfC to rename the article to "Mega Drive". Not in itself problematic per se, but the user has previously been blocked for similar discussions, and a long standing consensus is that new discussions that bring nothing to the table is disruptive. Ritchie333 17:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I stopped reverting, but McDoobAU93 and Ritchie333 are colluding with one another and edit warring via each other also so they never hit 3RR, and Ritchie has already conceded he is fine with the RfC and the RfC is nothing to do with these users, it is to seek outside opinion as these users opinions are well known and they enforce their views on others with an iron fist 77.97.151.145 (talk) 17:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Let's correct the record, shall we? You stopped after the 4th revert, and then launched spurious ANIs against two of the three different editors who are tired of this nonsense (including one who is as British as your IP suggests you are). And yes, Ritchie said he was fine if no other editor reverted it. Well, one did, and you couldn't just let it go, so revert #4. Time to move on. --McDoobAU93 17:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- UPDATE: Sergecross73 has closed the ANI, so that is no longer an issue. The IP's behavior, unfortunately, still is. --McDoobAU93 17:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Indrian reverted him also. He has previously been reverted for starting this up yet again in the past. Dream Focus 17:39, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one month by Sergecross73 (talk · contribs). This should be dealt with, now. --McDoobAU93 17:51, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Gamaliel reported by User:Msnicki (Result: )
Page: Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Gamaliel (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Please see edit comment here:
Comments: I am an uninvolved observer and reporter. I don't believe I've ever crossed paths with either editor in this dispute. Gamaliel has been edit warring to change another editor's comments on WP:BLPN. Given that he's admin, the behavior seems especially troubling.
Msnicki (talk) 23:29, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
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