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:In none of those quotes does GWB use the phrase ''"religion of peace"'', so either we change the first sentence or we look for another source. ] 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC) :In none of those quotes does GWB use the phrase ''"religion of peace"'', so either we change the first sentence or we look for another source. ] 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

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Raphael, why is this relevant in an article that discuss the neologism "Religion of Peace": "But an invitation to Rev. Franklin Graham, who dubbed Islam "very evil and wicked" in 2001, to lead a Good Friday service at the Pentagon stirred controversy."? And why do you believe that it says something that is not ] or ] about GWB's "credibility"? -- ] 21:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

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Articles for deletionThis article was nominated for deletion on 20 May 2006. The result of the discussion was No consensus.

Previous deletion

I just noticed the article was previously deleted. Most of those who voted for deletion had a problem with the phrase rather than merely the wikipedia article, though. The entry is longer than a paragraph, and mentions two interpretations, so it's serious enough not to merge with List of ethnic slurs. Andjam 01:01, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Now I'm curious as to what the previous version looked like. Where might I find it? Rearden Metal 07:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Why is the article still here?

The article already had an AfD with the result Delete, so please remove it!! Raphael1 02:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

That version got deleted. If you think this version of the article should be deleted (creation of a previously deleted article doesn't always qualify), I'd appreciate it if you gave the rationale at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Religion of Peace (second nomination). Thanks, Andjam 04:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Why is it a "second nomination", if it's an AfD for a new version? Have the issues of the first AfD ("Non notable offensive slur", "POV attack", "Frequent use by one hatemongering group does not notability make", "POV, epithet, and unwarranted promo for LGF") been addressed? Raphael1 18:27, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

This pointless article must be deleted according to WP:NOT.Timothy Usher

Or else what? You know the drill - put it on AfD if you think it should be deleted. Andjam 07:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Original research

Where are the previous sources for this article? Google searching on Religion of Peace is returning over 2,000,000 hits. That seems like an awful lot of hits for the narrow view of this expression being written about in this article. Netscott 20:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Bush quotes, from White House website

Why was the 'citation needed' tag added, regarding President Bush's public declarations of Islam as a religion of peace? The citation has been here all along, under external links: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html

Bush quotes from this official link:

" Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others."

"The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."

"I have assured His Majesty that our war is against evil, not against Islam. There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction."

"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war." Rearden Metal 23:01, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

In none of those quotes does GWB use the phrase "religion of peace", so either we change the first sentence or we look for another source. Raphael1 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Raphaels latest edits

Raphael, why is this relevant in an article that discuss the neologism "Religion of Peace": "But an invitation to Rev. Franklin Graham, who dubbed Islam "very evil and wicked" in 2001, to lead a Good Friday service at the Pentagon stirred controversy."? And why do you believe that it says something that is not POV or OR about GWB's "credibility"? -- Karl Meier 21:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)