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== And I don't care... ==

''Davey crack corn and I don't care, Davey talk nonsense and I don't care, Davey break articles and it pisses me off, he '''really''' ought to know better.'' I don't give a flying fart if Misplaced Pages is Fark, Slashdot or the bloody BBC, civility be damned, if you wish to tromp about as if you know better than the next man, you better fucking know better. You don't, or you would not have made an incorrect edit twice. Feel free to learn about a subject before you go talking about it. I didn't revert your nonsense in the beginning, it could have been one of 3 other people in the house - but they were completely right and you a total fool. It's dumbasses like yourself that make editing articles here a painful experience. ] 21:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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Past talk:
User talk:David Gerard/archive 1 (4 Jan 2004 - 31 Dec 2004)
User talk:David Gerard/archive 2 (1 Jan 2005 - 30 Jun 2005)
User talk:David Gerard/archive 3 (1 Jul 2005 - 31 Dec 2005)
User talk:David Gerard/archive 4 (1 Jan 2006 - 28 Feb 2006)

Please put new stuff at the bottom, where I'll see it. m:CheckUser requests (sockpuppet checks, etc) should go to WP:RFCU unless you're letting me know about a particular problem we've been tracking, in which case I look here far more often.

At present, I am attempting to write and add "content" to those "article" things which are apparently there for "readers," rather than doing a lot of Misplaced Pages admin work.

Can you keep an eye on Operating Thetan?

JimmyT (talk • contribs) seems to have decided that this is the night to game the system and has already tried to sneak in his original research that the OT I-VII submitted with the Fishman Affidavit are "fake (or forged)" . He's also calling in others to assist in the system-gaming. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Also JimmyT (talk • contribs) has been harassing me on my discussion page. He is evidently another Office of Special Affairs collaborator tasked to disrupt Misplaced Pages and harass editors who disagree with the cofs party line. --Fahrenheit451 15:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Shut up, you 1.1, out-ethics conspiracy kook. Has homeland security contacted you yet? --JimmyT 10:27, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
It's locked, for why I have no idea. There was hardly even any revert war. Maybe someone wanted to lock it in place in a dubious state. Uncrediwikia... SHEESH!!! :) --JimmyT 13:50, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
And thinking more about Fahrenheit451's comment. OSA collaborator? LOL! Maybe Fahrenheit451 is an Office of Psychiatric Affairs collaborator tasked to disrupt Misplaced Pages and harass editors who disagree with the kook line. My guess is as good as his. --JimmyT 13:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The naked sockpuppet

User:IanDaviesFriend nakedly a sockpuppet of User:IanDavies, whom you banned for being a sockpuppet of User:Irate... — ciphergoth 18:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Suspected 'Sock' of Banned User Skull 'n' Femurs

Blueboar I think is a 'sock' of the banned Masonic Editor Skull 'n' Femurs . He uses the same type of language especially the frequent use the word 'crap'. I request a check user for this editor.Anderson12 14:22, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

checkuser request

Hi, would it be possible for you to run a checkuser on Nameme (talk • contribs) and see if it matches up with deleted user Get-back-world-respect (talk • contribs)? I have reason to believe that Nameme is really GBWR avoiding a block and making controversial changes through a sock to avoid further warnings. I'm also being harassed on my talk page by the user. I'm not asking that you take any action: if there's any action to be taken I'll bring it up to arbcom or RfC or AN, or something else. But I'd like to know if they're the same person before I take any action that may make me look like a fool. ⇒ SWATJester Aim Fire!

User:Anderson12

Check user showed it's likely Anderson12 is Lightbringer, is it possible to get him blocked again? Ardenn 16:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Ardenn just got admonished for vandalism and violation of Misplaced Pages guidelines regarding 3rr and making false accusations of vandalism. I consider this false accusation of being a sock another instance of this.Anderson12 13:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I am sure you age getting tired of policing the Freemasonry pages, but please swing by Freemasonry and Talk:Freemasonry and take a look at Anderson12's current rants and vandalism ... if this guy isn't a sock for Basil Rathbone/Lightbringer, then he is a close clone. I think he has violated 3rrr at least... and probably several other guidelines. His attacks are getting personal. Blueboar 19:45, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Never mind... another admin has taken care of it. Thanks anyway. Blueboar 23:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I've been ill most of this week and just spent last night in hospital. Eek! So I plan to be taking things very easy for at least a few more days. There's always other admins around — pop by WP:ANI and say it's something I've been dealing with, and people can see this talk page for verification. Also that Lightbringer appears a really determined mission poster, hence his AC sanction - David Gerard 23:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Off ill

Back whenever. I might try some editing some of these "article" things you Misplaced Pages people claim to have a million of. And here I thought this was a project to write an encyclopedia of policy and userboxes! The things you learn ... (Do we have a million userboxes yet? Maybe by June or July) - David Gerard 23:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Process

Hello Mr. Gerard,

I am sorry that you are ill, and wish you a speedy recovery. On the discussion page for the proposed decision of the Sidaway RfAr, I believe that you have suggested that I have abused process in some way, though I may be mistaken in interpreting your remarks, of course. I have left a fuller reply there, but I would appreciate please an explanation, if you did intend to suggest that I have abused process. How so?

Best wishes and geekily yours, Xoloz 04:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Flu!

My sincere hopes that you feel better soon. It sounds awful. ... aa:talk 05:41, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Particularly on my talk page . Just don't. - David Gerard 12:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Go away!!! --JimmyT 13:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Blanking talkpage

Please do not blank sections of my talk page. --Admrb♉ltz (T | C) 18:25, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, spam rollback - David Gerard 11:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Depleted uranium

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Depleted uranium. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Depleted uranium/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Depleted uranium/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 19:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Rajput again

The day he "resigned" from Misplaced Pages, 20 February, Shivraj_Singh (talk • contribs) made an attack on ImpuMozhi (talk • contribs), accusing him of lying. Suddenly a new editor, Stephanian (talk • contribs), has appeared on Misplaced Pages, created a couple of userboxes out of the blue, and then headed on up to Rajput, where he renewed the allegation on Talk:Rajput.

There was actually a bewildering number of editors banned from Rajput and related articles as a result of that case, but I suppose thr first one to check should be pretty obvious. --Tony Sidaway 06:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Media Stuff

My brother recorded both the radio and TV interviews. I'll email those to you once he sends them to me. Nach0king 20:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

MarkSweep's RFAr

This is regarding your statement in MarkSweep's RFAr. I think this evidence might be of help (in case you hadn't already seen it). --Cyde Weys 02:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFC vandalism?

I'm a bit confused. I started an RFC on Freemasonry, and on there is a whole detailed process that requires subpages to be created and linked to WP:RFC in the appropriate category, along with a statement of dispute. User:Hipocrite, however, claims that the whole process was vandalism by Ril on WP:RFC. If so, Ril certainly put a lot of thought into it. Could you perhaps look into this? I'm more than happy to do things the "old way", but I think this new way (which requires that the RFC be thought about first) will do a lot to get rid of frivolous RFCs, so it would be too bad if it turns out to be vandalism. MSJapan 05:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Freemasonry

If you are honestly watching Freemasonry, can you please do something? Review recent editing history, and determine if the actions of MSJapan, Blueboar and Imacomp are anything more than disruptive edit warring:

and scores more. Hipocrite - «Talk» 12:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Hipocrite. You forgot Chtirrell Imacomp 16:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

WP:AGF. I have and will continue to do so, in the face of your continued bad acts. Hipocrite - «Talk» 19:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Looking for articles to work on?

Hello, David Gerard. I'm SuggestBot, a Misplaced Pages bot that helps new members contribute to Misplaced Pages. You might like to edit these articles I picked for you based on things you've edited in the past. Check it out -- I hope you find it useful. -- SuggestBot 15:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Everyone reading this should try this. User:SuggestBot/Requests is where you request your custom list - David Gerard 16:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFAR

You've been named as a party in an arbitration request by an IP (which I've since blocked for ban evasion), just FYI. IP in question is User:Queeran, just for posterity. NSLE (T+C) at 01:52 UTC (2006-03-08)

Addendum, Tony Sidaway has removed the request as trollish, which it (probably) was. ;) NSLE (T+C) at 04:13 UTC (2006-03-08)
He went as far as phoning Danny at the foundation. WTFFF - David Gerard

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 16:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Raymond Edmunds

Thanks for your note. I don't have any further info on this guy - to be honest, I don't really agree with idea of stating all these theories in the Eloise Worledge article. It sounds too much like speculation, saying it could have been this guy or that guy or whoever, without any actual references? I'm still new to Misplaced Pages so I'd like another opinion.. --Commking 18:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

If the case has third-party documented speculation that's notable, that would be encyclopedic. c.f. Jack the Ripper. - David Gerard 19:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for Comments - Terryeo

I've posted a Request for Comments on User:Terryeo. I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that his persistent misconduct on a range of Scientology-related articles will require an intervention from the Arbitration Committee and probably a lengthy ban. I'll keep the RfC open for a limited period before submitting it to the ArbCom as a Request for Arbitration. Please feel free to add any comments to the RfC, which is at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Terryeo (but please ensure that you add your comments to the right section of the RfC). If you have any additional evidence, please add that to the RfC. I will be posting this note to a number of users who've been directly involved in editing disputes with Terryeo.

This isn't quite the way I'd thought it would turn out when you referred me to the Dianetics article back in December, but that's the way it goes... :-/ -- ChrisO 23:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Gateman1997

Hey um... there is no way Gateman1997 is a sock of JohnnyBGood. First off, wouldn;t it be the other way around, since the latter's account was created last? But they are 2 different people. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 02:56, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Check the remarkably similar contribution record and the timestamp pattern. We got some great patterns putting the lot into a spreadsheet and seeing results come out. - David Gerard 10:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes because they're in the Pacific Time Zone? And watchlists do exist. Where's the CheckUser stuff? I know you have access to it. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Alphax 2

Was this really necessary? Also, please note that I fixed the two supports you accidentally removed in that diff, presumably because of an edit conflict. —BorgHunter (talk) 16:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the edit conflict foulup, thanks for fixing that. I think that someone opposing because he "doesn't like userboxes" is showing stupidity that really warrants approbation - David Gerard 18:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
It's true; I don't think userbox anything is sufficient to oppose. They're just little divs; they're not worth an uproar. But I really didn't think your little blurb at the top of the RfA was appropriate; just vote support and be on your way. That's what I meant. It was mentioned in another neutral vote by User:Deiz, though it did not affect my own neutral vote. —BorgHunter (talk) 20:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, that! I put that in because people said 'why didn't he get someone to nominate him', and I certainly would have done so had I known he was ready for another run. Because really, at this stage having Alphax not be an admin is ridiculous IMO. I'm sorry if it seemed improper; I didn't expect doing so would in fact offend anyone - David Gerard 20:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, think about it this way: If Joe Newbie came in and did that, assuming good faith was assumed, would people really accept that, or would it be removed fairly quickly? Your reasoning makes sense, but I see it as a bit of wikicampaigning, which I don't like considering adminship is "no big deal." I'm a hair away from changing my vote to support now, anyway. Thanks for your quick responses. —BorgHunter (talk) 20:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
You are of course correct, which is why I struck it. I'm sorry, I won't do this again - 22:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Your e-mail

Hi David Yesterday I noticed your message on AN/I about blocking JohnnyBGood and Gateman1997 and how you asked him to e-mail you. It was then stated that you have no valid address entered, to which I replied that it was on your user page. Today I received an e-mail from Gateman, stating that he's e-mailed you twice but received no reply. I'm wondering whether your address is still current on not. Raven4x4x 09:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I've been very ill lately and just got sicker again. I'm dealing with the piles of crap slowly. Apologies to all for delays - David Gerard 14:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

A quick follow-up from Jmk56 (Frances Farmer)

Hi, David--I received a very nice email yesterday from Mr. Wales about this recent dust-up on the Frances Farmer article. I have pretty much divorced myself from Misplaced Pages due to this completely avoidable conflict, but since I see the charming and diligent Wyss has posted about me above, I feel for the sake of balance I need to respond.

In terms of how much of an "expert" I am, as I have repeatedly mentioned, my Farmer research has been used as source material for many books, articles and documentaries, including broadcast documentaries on A&E Biography and NPR, and print pieces in the Washington Post and too many regional and/or web print media to list, as well as Jack El-Hai's definitive biography of Walter Freeman, "The Lobotomist".

And contrary to what Wyss asserts above, I at no time conceded that any of her edits was accurate and indeed she later went back and corrected each and every mistake she made that my attempts to correct ended up getting me "blocked" over. Because Wyss made literally hundreds of edits to the Farmer article over the course of a few days, her errors were manifold, but if you have the desire, you can see that the scores of errors she made she later went back and fixed after repeated messages from me. From my very first attempt to correct her inaccuracies (before I had been "blocked" and indeed even after, when I continued to attempt to correct her "anonymously"--though I signed every correction with my blocked username), I always provided sources for my corrections. Wyss fought me tooth and nail every step of the way.

In terms of Wyss "assuming good faith," if you take a moment to look at both her and my Discussion page histories, you will see her first "assumption of good faith" was to say "I don't know what you're up to" and then to call me a "bonehead," and then, hilariously, to assert that I was not me and had not written "Shedding Light on Shadowland," a copyrighted piece from which she "borrowed" liberally. Not to mention her repeated assertions (right here on your Talk page as well as manifold other places) that I "cloned" her ID. I have repeatedly asked the powers that be at Misplaced Pages to institute an ISP trace (which Wyss herself stated could be done) to trace this cloning activity. Unfortunately I have not heard back from anyone, but hopefully the fact that I have repeatedly made this request shows I have absolutely nothing to hide. I once again vehemently deny I did any such thing. I am a complete Wiki-novice. Wyss obviously has an expertise far beyond mine, and apparently tons of free time, as evidenced by her hundreds of edits daily. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

In the meantime, I notice that Wyss has careened from one conflict to another, evidently ending up being "blocked" herself, apparently several times by Arbitration Committee members. Unlike some, I think Wyss has good intentions, but has a hair-trigger temper and does not like to have her "authority" (whatever that might be) questioned. My one and only interest in this brouhaha was accuracy in the Farmer article. It's unfortunate that one zealous editor with her own agenda fought me for days instead of engaging me and trying to understand that my edits of her inaccuracies were not attacks, but an effort to make sure no more misinformation about Frances Farmer was disseminated.

Now you have *my* side, and I will most likely not be back on Misplaced Pages's shores.

Thank you for reading this. Jmk56 18:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

To David Gerard

File:Paledaffodils.jpg

Hope you get better soon, ignore these trolls, vandals, sockpuppets, KEEP ON BLOCKINGTHEM!!! Keep up the good work, you're a top admin! The image on the right may make you feel better!! --Sunfazer (talk) 18:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Poly Prep Country Day School

He doesn't forget? So why has Harry Reid been unprotected since the 22nd of February?Geni 21:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. You could ... ask him. He's on IRC now, if you have IRC - David Gerard 21:23, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser request for Current arbitration case - Melissadolbeer

Hi,

are either (or both)

any of the following:

?

(apart from Bacchiad and Robert Mclenon these are all very obvious socks of each other)

(SallyGold and Dwho are the most recent)

Thanks,

This is needed for an arbitration case (-Ril-2).

Oh, P.s. Bacchiad's edit pattern over time is here. It matches that of the combined Melissadolbeer sock's quite well.

Bacciad edits about flaky theories of Christian origin, just like Melissadolbeer, and at the same time has a grudge against CheeseDreams, which also appears to be the case with Melissadolbeer.

Robert McClenon also appears to have a strong grudge against CheeseDreams, and heavily edits in the field of Christianity. He also showed up in the KJV RFAR at approximately the same time as Melissadolbeer "discovered" it. For these reasons I think he is a plausible candidate for the sockpuppeteer.

--Victim of signature fascism 17:20, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Hm. I view the allegation that Robert Mclenon is operating these socks as a little better than retaliation for the mudslinging that is going on in RfAr. However, Melissadolbeer and the rest of those listed are certainly a army of disruptive socks (obvious identical M.O.s) whose behaviour over the last nine months or more has been as poor as Ril's. The last full erruption of these socks ended when Ril left the scene and Authentic Matthew was 'sorted' in August/September. However, like a sleeping volcano, there have been small splutters since Ril returned. Most likely, the sockmeister just checks in infrequently, and noticed Ril's new controversies, but it is possible (as Ril suggests) that the whole show is being operated by some other established user. A fishing trip might yield results, but other than that, despite my disagreements with Ril, I've adopted 'block on sight policy' towards this user. --Doc 20:25, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
"Retaliatory" checkusering is basically a no-op as if in doubt I say nothing. If anyone tries to bring up the mere fact of being checked as somehow a black mark, I slap them down promptly - David Gerard 13:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Robert McLenon has never struck me as any sort of malefactor, fwiw - quite the opposite. But I'll try to look at all these later today - David Gerard 13:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages article

A Guardian article, which mentions your name, was reproduced in The Hindu today Link Tintin (talk) 06:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, good! They said the UK version might not actually make it online ... - David Gerard 13:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

X Window System

Thank you for your message. I know you have been quite busy lately, so it's especially good you can keep working on these articles. I don't think I will have any change of getting a photo of an X terminal: there had been some where I work, but I think they have all been dumped at this point. - Liberatore(T) 14:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser/Imposter deletion request

Someone tried to register user:DufferI with my e-mail address. This person is an imposter with my very real personal information. This is fairly unnerving. Please do something about this imposter, and please erase the personal information. Duffer 17:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I've put the user page up for deletion, but if there's a better/faster way, I'd love to use it. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony 17:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
That's a speedy - David Gerard 19:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I had a speedy:attack, but now you've blanked it out! - CobaltBlueTony 19:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:-) It's got the important info ;-) - David Gerard 19:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
You'll see I've deleted the userpage except the very last revision. See WP:ANI. Please let me know of future socks - I am erring on the side of not revealing the IP or range at this stage, but I'll keep an eye out in future - David Gerard 19:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you David. Duffer 19:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Incidents with User:Nuview

Nuview deleted the same paragraph from the article David Miscavige on 6 March 2006 and on 13 March 2006, without discussion or consensus.--Fahrenheit451 18:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

He's been willing to talk to other editors in the past. See if you can get him to at least discuss the issue. He's actually CoS staff, but he's been quite reasonably behaved as an editor (even if few of his edits stay unaltered) and his POV has been good for the Scientology articles - David Gerard 19:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi David, I know checking users' identities is now handled elsewhere, but I'm bringing you a rather urgent case involving someone who has been the subject of an arbcom ruling and who not merely may occasionally use a sockpuppet to circumvent the restrictions placed on them, but may themselves be a notorious hardbanned user blocked permanently by Jimbo. Because of the urgency, and the number of checks in process, I thought it wise to do directly to you with it.

There is certainly strong circumstantial evidence that User:Ted Wilkes, who has been restricted by the arbcom from certain types of editing (and has breached the ban at least 4 times now, leading to a weekly ban) may have been using User:Danny B to get around the restrictions. There are also worrying suspicions that Wilkes may indeed be the notorious User:DW, an infamous individual who terrorised Misplaced Pages and Wikipedians with a host of abusive sockpuppets until permanently banned (along with his long list of sockpuppets) by Jimbo. Having defamed one user by mispresenting an arbcom ruling to claim the user in question was "convicted" of "lying", Wilkes is now targeting me for abuse for enforcing the arbcom ruling and blocking him. (Carrying out personal vendettas is just one of many suspicious similarities, including what is edited, what is written, what explanations are given, editing style, etc between Wilkes and DW.)

If he is Danny B then his breaches of the arbcom ruling with be increased accordingly (if the total exceeds six he will be banned for one year). If he is DW then the issue would become immaterial. He would be instantly permanently banned. FearÉIREANN\ 21:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Check user?

Hi there, I found you from the list of those with check user abilities. I am wondering if you would mind checking if the following IP is connected with a registered account (they vandalized my user page, and I have recently been under heavy attack from several users because of my attempts to NPOV a controversial article): 67.186.215.2 . Thanks very much. bcatt 00:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration

You deleted my response to Ambi's arbitration request. Please don't do this again. DarrenRay 12:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Eh? Not sure how that happened - I didn't backspace or anything - David Gerard 13:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I hope you don't delete my short statement either, but my question to you is could you please disclose any political or other associations that might lead you to have a conflict of interest in relation to participating as a third party in the Arbitration request. I make no allegations and hope you don't take it that way, but I believe that a full disclosure would be welcome to remove any misapprehensions. --2006BC 02:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah: my affiliation is for Misplaced Pages and against those using it for anti-PR in the rest of their lives. HTH. - David Gerard 09:26, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Benjamin, I'd take that as a 'no comment'. LOL. DarrenRay 10:09, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi David. Re DR - I'm a bit puzzled. You've blocked him for a month 2006-03-21 19:15:10 David Gerard blocked "DarrenRay (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 month (restoring 1 month block for gross sockpuppetry to further external conflict on Misplaced Pages). As far As I can see (and I checked until I got bored) DR has a whole string on unexceptionable edits. If he has evil socks, then I guess thats bad, but blocking the DR account for so long seems a bit odd William M. Connolley 19:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Check my note on WP:ANI - Darren Ray (DarrenRay (talk • contribs)) and Ben Cass (2006BC (talk • contribs)) are different people, but they've been working in concert for months, as far as I can tell, as the phenomenon known to the vandal-hunters as the Australian Politics Vandal, under about 1 zillion usernames. They're actually different people, though this isn't clear from the checkuser as each has edited from the other's house (looks like to me) with their own and sockpuppets' usernames. I would say "block by massive admin disgust" except this has been pretty much in effect, and the only reason we have these two to hit with an AC case, etc. is because they are stupidly arrogant and operating out from under cover now. I blocked DarrenRay for a short block, but reinstated Essjay's 1 month block because there ain't no way these people are here to do good, except as a cover for doing bad - David Gerard 20:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'm not going to push this, as I know nothing about DR. If you're convinced of the sockpuppetry, then his denying it counts of evidence of bad faith I suppose William M. Connolley 20:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Sock check on Freemasonry article

David, It looks like another sock of user:Lightbringer (also: Basil Rathbone, Humanum Genus, and a host of other sock names) is back on the Freemasonry page. He is going by the name User:40 Days of Lent which would fit a pattern of picking sock names with religious (and specificly Catholic) meaning. If this is indeed the same person, he has shown himself to be an avid POV agenda pusher who has been banned by arbitration from editing any article relating to Freemasonry. He needs to be cut off before he disrupts the page further. My reason for suspecting him is very simple... the banned user has a "preferred" version of the article that he repeatedly has tried to force upon the other editors. Several times in recent months, his first act was to post this "preferred" version... which immediately starts an edit war as other editors object strongly to the material. As I think you are aware, this finally resulted in having a semi-lock put on the page to prevent him from simply opening a new account and continuing where he left off. However, all this has done is to shift him off the article and to the talk page. Now he simply posts his very large "preferred" version onto the talk page as "proposed additions" (If you look at the archives, this same material has been posted repeatedly). The other editors have already patiently explained why his "proposed additions" are not acceptable (inaccurate, POV, incorrectly cited, and inflamitory just to name a few reasons)... posting it all again is now simply a form of vandalism. Please run a check on this user, and if it is a sock... slap a block on him... again. Blueboar 14:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I would also add that maybe this user's contribs might be of interest. MSJapan 01:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

WP:RCU—anybody home?

Is anyone currently working WP:RCU? As I type this, the backlog is at 88 requests. RadioKirk talk to me 13:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

It varies - David Gerard 20:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Help needed

Hello David, we haven't talked before but I was hopeing you could help me with a problem, since I saw your name on the list of those with check user abilities. I suspect user baku87 may have atleast one sockpuppet if not two, which are druffc and Johnstevens5.

The problem really started when baku87 brought up outlandish POV charges against the Military of Armenia article. Soon he was joined by druffc and just today by Johnstevens5. What makes me suspect that he may have sockpuppets is how the first edits druffc and Johnstevens5 made were on the talk page to the Military of Armenian article. Also, if you check out baku87 contributions, you will see that he has had contact with Johnstevens5 at a time when Johnstevens5 doesn't even have his user page set up. Also, druffc knew about edit summary, something that most new users do not learn after only a couple of edits. Please look into this, thank you in advance!--Moosh88 03:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Since you're familiar with our little realm...

Perhaps you wouldn't mind looking into this unfair block of Duffer, insitgated or orchestrated by individuals whose tactics and behaviors you had become familiar with in Tommstein and Central. If you'd rather not get involved, I'll understand. - CobaltBlueTony 17:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello again David. I'm certain the recent vandals of the Witness pages are connected to the recent imposter and the recently banned user:Central/user:Tommstein. It's all outlined on my talk page. Anonymous harrasment has continued since the imposter incident. The Jehovah's Witnesses: Controversial Issues article (and to a lesser degree the main Jehovah's Witness article and my talk page) has recently been assualted by a cabal of anonymous vandals (or one person vandalising by proxy). Just look at the page histories for those two articles (JW:CI, JW) over the past couple of days. I was hoping you could investigate this matter. It would be most appreciated. Duffer 18:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Gornham (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)

Claims to be a bot operated by WoW etc. It may be wise to run a sockpuppet check before the prospective skirmish. I suspect this might be a MARMOT sockpuppet. --Cool Cat 13:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Anti-metrication

I've moved Anti-metrication to AfD because I felt it needed discussion. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Anti-metrication NickelShoe (Talk) 15:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

No worries, that's how PROD's supposed to work :-) - David Gerard 16:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I swear I'm going to open a shoe store.....

I believe that since Freemasonry has gone back to unprotected, we have another LB sock in the personage of Fyodor Dos (talk • contribs). He's decided that an incorrect line in the occult article regarding etymology is reason enough to call Freemasonry "occult", without bothering to look at the content of either occult or esoteric. His new name is a writer who converted to Catholicism, so the MO is spot on. Can I get an RFCU, and would it really be so awful if I was maybe given the CheckUser permission so I didn't have to keep posting RFCUs that sit and sit because those who are not directly involved think this is a simple content dispute? On that note, though, Lightbringer now has an entry on WP:Long term abuse. MSJapan 04:21, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Fyodor Dos has pretty much made his thoughts known on Talk:Freemasonry, and sock or not (though I'm sure he is) he will be incapable of editing in an NPOV fashion. He also can't back up his claims with any reliable evidence, even when asked. MSJapan 22:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 15:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

DoubleCheckUser

Saw your note on the WP:RFCU talk page. When you have a moment, would you be willing to take a look at this request for a second look. While I think the editor who filed the original request for CheckUser now realizes that we are indeed separate individuals, there is still the matter of some votes which have been cast into doubt by the first incorrect analysis... TIA, —Adityanath 16:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Is this how you conduct yourself?

It's good to know that your blocking me for 12 hours for 'Idiot Trolling' accusing me of being a troll just for making a complaint about the conduct of certain administrators was a BREACH of blocking policy. Also good to know that there were sensible administrators out there prepared to unblock me.

I've not once ever been involved in trolling and the User: Jebus Christ block had nothing to do with trolling. It was a username block. You obviously didn't bother to even read what i'd written on Jimbo's talk page. You just assumed it was a rant about the username and that was enough to accuse me of 'idiot trolling' and being a 'dick'. What the hell kind of conduct is that?

I can't believe I even have to come here an ask this but I would like an appology please.

Thanks,

Jimididit 09:34, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

David, before you engage in further debate with this troll, I highly recommend you run a checkuser on User:Jimididit and User:J is me. Based on J is me's last edit and Jimididit's attack on me in his very first edit and many many many subsequent attacks, I'd put my wisdom teeth on them being the same person. Do us both a favour and run a check, okay? Snottygobble 12:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Snotty, if you can refute my claims I will offer you a full appology. But at this time I still can't see why you associated two IP addresses from different countries with J is me when you accused him of trolling (he is clearly a troll though). I also can't understand why its ok for Grant65 to put a suspected sockpuppet tag wherever he chooses but anyone else doing the same to him is automatically a troll who deserves to be blocked.

Apologies to David for cross-talk on his page.

You might be suprised to hear how many people consider David Gerard to be among our most sensible wikipedians. And your example "sensible administrator" is probably not an authority you should look to. Don't mistake the unblock for imprimatur.
  • If David had droppped a message on your talk "Based upon previous behavior please don't use Jimbo's talk," and then said "disruption" the block summary followed by a semi-plausible rationale on WP:ANI there may have been no unblock.
  • You are deviating slightly from the center of the distribution as far as your behavior goes, you may not have realised. The best thing for you to do right now is go and make some article edits. Uncontroversial ones, fix some typos of do some stub sorting, something productive. You'll feel better, really.
  • Forget an apology. Take this page off your watchlist. Take everyone's talk off your watchlist. Just move along, really.
brenneman 12:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

We now return to out regularly schedualed programming.

other talk pages on my watch list are there as part of my campaign to restore my old username. This talk page is on my watch list because Left a comment here. Why is that an issue for you? Anyway I get it, wikipedia admins stick together like shit to a blanket. Jimididit 03:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Fadix (talk • contribs) Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek

Fadix is getting involved with votes I am involved and breaching the arbitration ruling in my view.

I may be over reacting perhaps but you may want to pass the word to the arbitration people.

--Cool Cat 02:04, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


templates substituted by a bot as per Misplaced Pages:Template substitution Pegasusbot 08:05, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates

Could you please update the commonwealth games section - i have suggested an enry under March 26.

Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Stalking_by_user:AKMask

I suspect AKMask is infact a sockpuppet of Davenbelle as he has been stalking me at least on two votes. He is not a regular voter and is a relatively new editor and had started editing roughly about the same time as davenbelle left. He is overal being a dick as well. Can you look into this? --Cool Cat 14:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Greetings, saw you in the rule-room, and just dropped in to say a big hello. --Bhadani 16:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Running for admin on meta

I am requesting adminship on Meta for the account m:User:David Gerard - David Gerard 19:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

User:MARMOT

He is still active. Have you found the hammer to nail him to the tree? --Cool Cat 18:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Fuck. No. Grrrrr - David Gerard 20:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

? about Terryeo's RfA

Hi, I see you're looking in on this (I was wondering whether UNK and JimmyT were one and the same), and I believe you were once an arbitrator, so I'll ask you the same thing I've just asked ChrisO--is it useful for other editors with knowledge of the situation to sign on and testify on the RfA, if that is basically just going to restate material from the RfC? I see the potential for more confusing back-and-forth talk, as has characterized so many of the talk pages where Terryeo is active as well as the earlier, failed, mediation attempt. I don't want to add anything unless it is going to be percieved as clarifying the issue, as opposed to just creting more "noise." I'd appreciate an arbitrator's perspective--any advice? BTfromLA 18:57, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

If/when the RFAr opens, I suggest just supplying factual and verifiable evidence then; adding a statement of the problem is probably superfluous before then, as you suspect - the RFC covers it pretty well in my opinion - David Gerard 09:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

#en.wikipedia.vandalim -> #wikipedia-en-vandalim_#wikipedia-en-vandalim-2006-04-01T13:27:00.000Z">

Diring the transaction fennc gave away channels ownership to essjay and recently essjay booted me off the channel.

Since I failed to convince User:Angela to take any action (or even consider my case seriously), I decided to create a new chain of channels for my bot. However the main issue is moving/copying all the access settings (on 12+ channels). #wikipedia-en-vandalim has a list of over 200 usrs and I do not want to copy/paste them one by one.

I was wondering if there was any way you could assist. I believe you know quite a number of Freenode staffers.

--Cool Cat 13:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)_#wikipedia-en-vandalim"> _#wikipedia-en-vandalim">

Cyde and SPUI

I have edited your user page, since I have decided that you are a sock puppet of Cyde and SPUI. I base this on emphatical CheckFool evidence, which is indisputable, because I say so. Hope you don't mind. I also removed the photo of you since it's clearly not you, since you're a sock puppet. We all decided that you had all sold your accounts to someone. Not sure who. CheckFool doesn't lie. See: WP:CheckFool

Meta adminship

Yikes, you're RfA is starting to go down in flames over there! Did you rock the boat a little too much or something? I voted support because even though you have strong opinions at least in my experience you generally hold back on using the buttons at inappropriate times :). I'm starting to get a little worried though with the long-time stewards opposing you :\. Just another star in the night 23:37, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Anthere has apparently decided I'm part of an organised invading troll force from en: (I'm wondering what to do with the email she just sent me ... it's amazing) and is MOBILISING THE TROOPS against me. Note the "number of edits" she's been putting on RFA votes (the same behaviour that got someone sanctioned by the AC in the webcomics case, but of course Meta is a different place). What the fuck. It would possibly be taken as an assumption of bad faith on my part to declare that the Foundation is going BATSHIT INSANE of late, but really it's an assumption of bad judgement - David Gerard 04:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Rfas are often unreal. But think it this way, no one threatened to leave wikipedia if your meta adminship were to suceed. --Cool Cat 18:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

MARMOT

These are MARMOT sock, he is talking to me about it on irc. Are they ntl/tor or someting lese. Could be open proxies... --Cool Cat 18:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:03, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Terryeo

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Terryeo. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Terryeo/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Terryeo/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 19:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I know you've removed it...

but AN/I really needed more cowbell. ;-) --GraemeL 21:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I remain unconvinced! - David Gerard 21:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

User:ROGNNTUDJUU!

Thanks for letting me know. I'm glad the situation has been resolved. JDoorjam Talk 23:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Got another suspected of the same guy. User:JamieBattenbo. I wonder if he has (m)any more? —BorgHunter (talk) 00:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, this one looks like he might be a different person, unless the guy is really clever. Suspicious timing and similarities, though. —BorgHunter (talk) 00:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello David. ROGNNTUDJUU! told me you did not answer his email? To be honest this whole thing annoys me a bit. Writing an encyclopedia online seemed like a cool idea to me, but as it turns out there all kind of nerds around. De mortuis... 02:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Missing Barnstar

Please would you kindly remove the missing barnstar, as it is an identifier for those who haven't received any barnstars. Deryck C. of WP:KC, 04:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Invite

Here is your invite to Misplaced Pages:Paranormal Watchers. Martial Law 03:11, 8 April 2006 (UTC) :)

Version 1.0 "Release Version Qualifying"

Hi, I'm interested in your feedback on Misplaced Pages talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Qualifying. It's essentially an idea to use a process similar to WP:FAC to identify and handle articles and lists that would go in a release version. Maurreen 19:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm pleased to see someone actually bothered releasing an en: Misplaced Pages CD that just starts with a couple of thousand hand-checked articles. It makes the whole idea seem less fearsomely huge - David Gerard 19:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thanks (from someone)--BozMo talk 09:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Anthoer sockpuppet check

I got another one for you, this time for a user blocked for a month whom seems to be evading the block (for personal attacks and incivility/trollong).

User in question is: Diyako (talk · contribs) whom changed his username to Xebat (talk · contribs) and now is suspected to have the sockpuppet alias Zanyar (talk · contribs). Zaynar's edits closely resemble of Diyako's and

There is an ongoing infestation on Kurd related articles so it might be a meatpuppet.

Some evidence:

Users first edit was to Kurdish celebration of Newroz (an unlikely hit of a first search and an article Diyako to say the least was very active). Also this edit is intriguing.

--Cool Cat 08:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

WikiEN-l mailing list

Hi David, Sorry to pile another request on your plate. I recently re-signed up to wikien-l but by default new posters seem to be moderated. I think my posts my have disappeared into the rejected pile amid a flood of spam (or have been left lingering in the queue). Would you mind moving me to the approved list? My email address starts the same way as my user name i.e. pcb21@. Thanks for your time, Pcb21 Pete 07:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC).

Pcb caught up with me on IRC. But others annoyed with our occasional laxity to the queue ... please do bug me, Mark Ryan or Fuzheado as needed! - David Gerard 01:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

History undelete please

Hi - you're apparently offering undeletion, according to Category:User_undeletion. I'd be interested in seeing the previous history or text of the Sadness article if possible. I'm adding something on representation of mood in art to the page which it now redirects to, so it might have had useful sources. Here's the AfD entry Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Sadness Thanks if poss. Cedders 09:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The history is still there! They just made it a redirect to Depression. Here's the last version - David Gerard 11:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Many thanks. I think I was confused by the outcome of the vote. --Cedders 21:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

PowerShot

Thanks for adding all the powershot camera battery types. It was a good addtion to the article. I think there might need to be an analogous article created for the A series cameras. -Ravedave 19:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm specialising in the Ixus, but hell yeah! - David Gerard 01:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Haathi Mere Saathi

Restore the deleted edits to that article. (unsigned comment by Holkinjai (talk · contribs), 20:20, 15 April 2006

DAVID GERAD?

Are you the wikitruth person?

Wikitruth

The following appeared on the Wikitruth site:

Ow! Do you know how much a Slashdotting hurts? A LOT. Over 25,000 hit this poor box! Summary: Misplaced Pages has problems and we think we can only criticize it from an external site. The WikiTruth will be back soon!

Until then, support your local hacker convention: defcon, hope, phreaknic, notacon and shmoo!

And for Jimbo's sake, listen to some independent Hacker Media!!!

Thanks for being patient.

-- David Gerard and the Wikitruth.Info Staff

wha?! DavidGerard formed Wikitruth?!
what on EARTH is going on?

(Come join us on #wikipedia on irc.freenode.net. Until the Slashdot storm passes)

I suspect that this is a massive troll. Can you confirm? - Ta bu shi da yu 05:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Nothing to do with me - this is the first I've heard of it. I can think of any number of pissed-off trolls it could be. One site has two sockpuppets of one troll arguing on my talk page ... - David Gerard 06:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
It appears to be the work of Lir, like everything else is - 1. the writing style. 2. the writing style 3. the writing style 4. apparently I'm the source of more of his misfortunes than Raul654 is. I understand Lir got banned from Encyclopaedia Dramatica after he got severely moderated on Misplaced Pages Review. (Where he bitches chronically about my writing on Uncyclopedia.) C'MON ADAM, TELL THE WIKITRUTH! WHAT DID YOU DO TO PISS OFF LJDRAMA? - David Gerard 06:40, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Just a note to let you know I'm adding my own two cents on Wikitruth, at http://www.modemac.com/Wikitruth -- if you or anyone else wants to contribute to this outside page (completely independent of Misplaced Pages), please feel free to head on over. Praise "Bob."  :) --Modemac 01:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Script

Does this look odd to you? -Will Beback 06:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

No idea, ask a dev, which ain't me ... otoh, knowing Jarlaxle, he might honestly have thought putting code into a page would make it runnable - David Gerard 06:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, right. ⇒ JarlaxleArtemis 06:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
My apologies David, I thought you were a dev. Cheers, -Will Beback 07:32, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

need help from someone with checkuser rights an extensive policy knowledge.

I recently received a message at regarding some sockpuppetry. the user want me to email him the IP address of someone defaming him or something. I am just a humble editor with no aspirations towards any sort of administrative role on en. As one of the go-to guys on wikipedia, I figured that you might be able to help the gentleman. Cheers. youngamerican (talk) 13:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

another RfA question

I detect no arbitration committee action thusfar on Terryeo's RfA which was opened April 3. Are the parties involved expected to propose remedies or otherwise do something to push the ball forward? Thanks. BTfromLA 03:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I see that the arbitrators are moving forward with an injunction at this point. BTfromLA 19:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Wiki-David

Hi. I placed myself up for constructive critisism on WP:ER. I'd appreciate it if you could comment there. As a senior member of the community, I think your word would be good for me.-Zero 19:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Saw something you'd appreciate

http://tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=641

had me laughing... figured you could appreciate a little scientology humor.  ALKIVAR™ 18:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Sock on Freemasonry

Hi David, I think we have yet another instance of a User:Lightbringer Sock on the various Freemasonry related articles. In the past this Long Term Abuser has used IPs from Shaw Communications in Calgary (the IP usually starts with 24.68.2....) this time he is using 24.64.223.203. I ran a search through Arin.net and this is also a Shaw Communications IP. His edits such as this and this fit the "lightbringer pattern" ... trying to delete the statement that "Freemasonry is less of a Secret Society and more a society with secrets", trying to omit reference to the Holocaust. Please check it out and block/ban if I am correct. Blueboar 13:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

User:David Duchovny

Hi David--I saw your comment to User:JuliannaRoseMauriello asking him/her to choose another username. I had wondered about that issue with another user, User:David Duchovny, but wasn't sure where to ask about it. Do we have a general policy that users shouldn't take usernames of other people? Thanks. · rodii · 13:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

We sure do. Misplaced Pages:Username says: "Do not use the real name of well-known figure, especially one still living, unless you are that person. Registering a username of a notable figure, and then performing disruptive edits in that "name", or in an attempt to discredit it, will likely result in an immediate, indefinite block. Impersonations of figures who are household names, such as "George W. Bush" or "Winston Churchill", etc., will be blocked on sight." The same applies to picking a name as a tribute. Basically, we have lots of people of varying degrees of fame who do in fact edit on the wiki as themselves. So pretending otherwise is a bad idea. That being the person's real name would be suitable as a reason, of course: I blocked someone who picked the name "Doctor Mengele" saying I'd unblock if he emailed a scan of proof of last name and of his doctorate ... he picked another name - David Gerard 14:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I see someone else has warned him, and left the WP:U link on his talk page for me to follow. I guess we'll see what happens next. Thanks for the response. · rodii · 15:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

zomg survey

Hey David,

If you don't mind, I'd like to hear what you've got to say at User:Linuxbeak/Wikimania_2006/Wikipedian_Survey. Thanks! Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 20:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Seoul Jjang

You blocked Seoul Jjang on the 28th but see last entry at User talk:Seoul Jjang. Is User:Sean Black masquarading as an Admin? I don't see his name on the Misplaced Pages:List of administrators, and it is not my understanding that non-admins can block users.--FourthAve 00:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

  • See #593 on the link you gave. :) FrankB

Hi! Just wanted to thankyou for a good belly laugh in (Gator1 Incident), re:

"I'd add mine except I get far more of them already than I can deal with ;-) Perhaps we could tag it with WP:BADCOP and WP:WORSECOP - David Gerard 21:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)"

Thanks! I needed that! FrankB 07:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Request if at all possible

Hello David, I and a couple of admins have a sockpuppet theory and Wikipediatrix mentioned that you would be the man to discuss this with. Last months both she, I and at least half a dozen other users received from JimmyT a barrage of very serious abuse, personal attacks and wrongful claims of wiki rule breaching (so that our talk pages could be covered in pages of WP:NPA WP:Civil and vandalism warnings which according to wiki policy we aren't to remove). These were all fuelled because of edits to Scientology related articles as he is an admitted scientologist and objects to wikipedia policies regarding POV edits. He was subsequently banned indefinitely. JimmyT claimed to be American. Within days it continued (allbeit in a slightly different and certainly more toned down way) from a new user UNK - again an admitted scientologist claiming to be from Korea. About 2-3 weeks ago he too was banned indefinitely as it was found he was a sockpuppet of JimmyT. Now, "coincidently" we have another admitted scientologist and "friend" of UNK; Nikitchenko this time claiming to be a Russian based artist who was born in Japan (strange but that's his story) and, again, both wikipediatrix and I (moreso than the the others this time) are finding ourselves targets. Again, more subtle but consistently being hassled about every edit, calling mediation committees, and generally making life difficult. To me it all seems too coincidental - especially as he says he lives in Russia but wrote on my talk page that he is a close friend of UNK's, who was allegdedly Korean. Are you able to assist in an IP search or point me in the right direction? Those editor(s) again:

Thank you in advance, - Glen C (Stollery) 00:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

David apologies I missed the note at the top and have listed at requests for checkuser. Sorry for not reading more closely! - Glen C (Stollery) 01:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

A landslide victory for The JPS (aka RFA thanks)

Hey, David Gerard, thank you so much for your vote and comments in my RfA, which passed with an overwhelming consensus of 95/2/2. I was very surprised and flattered that the community has entrusted me with these lovely new toys. I ripped open the box and started playing with them as soon as I got them, and I've already had the pleasure of deleting random nonsense/attacks/copyvios tonight.
If I ever do anything wrong, or can help in some way, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will do my best to correct my mistake, or whatever...
Now, to that bottle of wine waiting for me...

The JPS 22:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Jimbo's alternate account

Have you seen this yet..? -Zero 21:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

On User:Zmmz's behalf

This user is requesting to be unblocked, primarily because they weren't warned about their behavior. I don't disagree with your block, but I do think that it's a bit strange you didn't even leave a block message on his talk page explaining the block and whatnot. Considering the user is also involved in ongoing arbitration, I figured I might ask you to take a second look if you got a chance. --InShaneee 05:05, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Proof that 0.999... equals 1

I find your assumption of bad faith and attempt at personal attack by claiming I took the article to AfD to make a point and was disrupting wikipedia highly objectionable. You were violating WP:AGF and WP:NPA by making such a baseless claim. I DO consider that article to be unworthy of inclusion in the Misplaced Pages. In future I will appreciate it if you refrained from making such claims. Thank you. Loom91 06:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Considering I linked in my response to the wikien-l post in which you said why you were doing it, I suspect you have a bad case of WP:OWN concerning the deletion debate - David Gerard 12:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I see you are continuing to make false allegations. I don't believe you will be able to point me to a post where I said I was putting the article on AfD to make a point. Neither have I made any claims to own the deletion debate, I simply started it and subsequently objected when you made false allegations against me. Loom91 05:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Return of User:Irate

Hi. Today we have had a number of incidents on UK articles, most likely caused by socks of User:Irate - I've left a notice at AN/I, and as you have previous contact with this user you may wish to leave a comment there. Thanks for your time, Aquilina 14:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes

I see you believe that "userboxes should burn in hell". Take a look at User:Ldingley. There's a bunch of Russophobic hate-templates. I believe such pages bring WP into disrepute. --Ghirla 06:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/KDRGibby

I've had a change of opinion on this. Because of Gibby's relentless incivility and personal attacks on other editors, and his edit warring, but in particular because of the unbending nature of his approach to subjects on which he has strong feelings, I think it may (either now or soon) be time to consider invoking the General Probation in his case to ban him from Misplaced Pages completely. I don't think he's shown any sign of trying to work with other Wikipedians, and instead he's treating Misplaced Pages like a corner of Usenet. I no longer cling on to the hope that he has both the capacity and the will to reform.

KDRGibby is placed on general probation. Any three administrators, in the exercise of their judgement for reasonable cause, may ban him from Misplaced Pages if his general pattern of activity is unacceptably disruptive. Such a ban and the basis for it shall logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/KDRGibby#Log of blocks and bans.


I'd be interested in your opinion on this. --Tony Sidaway 12:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion on this on WP:AN. I'd like to see if there are reasonable objections before pressing ahead. --Tony Sidaway 14:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:1.0

As you're "envious" of dewiki, mind having a look at this discussion and giving us your comments? Titoxd 02:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Humble request

Would you please give GraceNote permission to use your name to make a point on his user page? I offered that he could use mine, but in this edit, he thought your name made the point better. Thanks. --Rednblu 07:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

RFA nom

If the offer still stands (in 6 days) I would love to take you up on your offer, # Not yet. I will nominate you myself at the ninetieth day - David Gerard 20:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC), to nominate me for adminship. Pegasus1138 ---- 17:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Goodness yes. Make sure you have answers for the querulous closely interested persons who dissect the previous nom as if another three months never happened - David Gerard 18:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll have them ready, though I assume people will add extra questions after the nom starts. Pegasus1138 ---- 21:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sense of humour

See, I knew you have one ;-) -- Grace Note.

Block that sock! - Lightbringer again

David, accordinmg to this RFCU, we've got another LB sock Newmason (talk · contribs), but nobody has blocked him as of yet. Could you do so? Thanks! MSJapan 13:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ah, so it is. *zap* - David Gerard 23:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but we got another one -User:Naturalism IS satanism. Can we reblock the IP please? MSJapan 15:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
A checkuser has proven we're dealing with Lightbringer here. A block would be much appriciated. He is also working from 24.64.223.203, but it seems that IP is shared with legitimate users. Thank you for your time. WegianWarrior 05:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Cash for Comment

Care to have a peruse over at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Apocrypha Discordia? User:Wickethewok really seems to have an axe to grind. Brother William 11:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

He seems perfectly sincere but with a bad case of WP:OWN of the deletion debate. Looks like a keep to me (all the deletes are "because I haven't heard of it," which is the usual meaning of "non-notable" on AFD), I've added a note to this effect - David Gerard 11:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, it's over 5 days old so closable, so I closed it "keep". First deletion debate I've ever closed! I'm sure I'll now get pissed-off people stopping by here because I read the discussion instead of just counting votes ... - David Gerard 11:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Jamal Curtis

Can you check that user? There is evidence he is a sockpuppet of User:Dzoni. Jakiša Tomić 22:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

There is his another sockpuppet: User:Cetnici. Jakiša Tomić 08:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Sory for distubance. I read WRCU and I think this is obvious case so you don't need to check him. Jakiša Tomić 08:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Odious users

I have brought up a contentious sentence of yours about consensus for banning odious users at the village pump. Would you like to comment? -lethe 21:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

(facepalm) There's no casually obvious statement so obvious that it can't be bent into weird shapes by a really determined process obsessive. I've commented on what I thought I meant at the time - David Gerard 21:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Assistence of an experienced wikipedian is needed

Dear David, I would be very greatfull if you answer my question concerning the NPOV policy. Regards,--AndriyK 11:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Critique

You are priceless and very funny I find. --Rednblu

It's funny because it happened - David Gerard 22:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
But the song lyrics are a work of art. --Rednblu 22:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Not until I find a good rhyme for "cabal" - David Gerard 23:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


RE: Walthamstow town hall image

Only just bothered to log in today and read your message.

Yeah its okay, at least there won’t be any copyright issues now. --Nabs 12:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

"Richard Branson" sock puppet

Hi David. Thanks for blocking the "Richard Branson" user. I noticed you created a category for his sock puppets - I created one earlier at Category:Misplaced Pages:Sock_puppets_of_Universe_Daily. My notice on the Richard Branson username being a sock puppet of a serial sock puppeteer is at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Inappropriate_username.3F. Thanks again, - Reaverdrop (talk/nl/w:s) 16:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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Proposal to warehouse insulting and offensive usernames

Greetings, friend - since your name comes up as a target more than once on the list, I would appreciate your thoughts at Misplaced Pages talk:Changing username#Proposal to warehouse insulting and offensive usernames. BD2412 T 14:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

A gift

For when it all gets a little too much, relax and take solace in the fact that the Cabal carries compensations. robchurch | talk 16:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Lisa McPherson civil case not settled

says that the estate have not received any of the settlement - i've updated Lisa McPherson but lots of other scientology articles make reference to her case being settled (such as Scientology and the legal system) - how should they be updated to reflect this? --84.12.189.210 13:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I'd say just update them with a reference link noting that they are settled, though the settlement has not yet been paid - David Gerard 14:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Wild Cherries

This Melbourne band from the late 1960's is up at articles for deletion along with its members including Lobby Loyde. I have tried adding references to the article as best I can. From my layman's knowledge of Australian rock, Lobby Loyde is certainly notable and it seems this band was as well. . I would be grateful for any advice you could give me. Capitalistroadster 13:54, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Email?

I have a serious article concern with sneaky vandalism. I'm reluctant to paste details and evidence here, as that will help the vandal. Can you let me know a suitable way to contact you otherwise? Many thanks. I'll check back here for a reply. FT2 22:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

You can email me at dgerard@gmail.com - David Gerard 22:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
You have mail. Many thanks for the prompt reply. FT2 12:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Wild Cherries AfD

I had some questions about things you said about WP:MUSIC. I'm confused what you mean about it being US centric. I could see it being biased in favor of industrial countries that have more internet access, but it seems like Australia would be in that category (though google has an obvious recentism bias, as you pointed out). I was also wondering if you could point me somewhere to read about the history and controversy over WP:MUSIC. If it's just buried in the talk archives, say so and I'll go find it. Thanks.--Kchase02 T 00:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The numbers of records for "significance" is US-centric - significance is much lower for Australia, which is a much smaller country. Most of the controversy is in past AFDs - where WP:MUSIC was introduced as "no no it's an inclusion guideline, we'd NEVER use it as an excuse for deletion" and is now being abused as an excuse for deletion - David Gerard 15:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Request to review comment by Terryeo

David, Hate to bother you with this, but I wonder if this would be considered a personal attack, it is from Talk:Altered_texts_in_Scientology_doctrine#Guardian.27s_Office:

"The creepy tactics you describe Antaeus are exactly what Joseph Stalin employed during his purges in the old Soviet Union. Now they are being used by David Miscavige in the cofs.--Fahrenheit451 15:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Now there's a comment ! Whew, really contributory to the article too ! Why don't you discuss parallells to Stalin at alt.news.scientology, rather than here? Or perhaps in some of your Clambake.org esseys? Here, we work with previously published information. Because books, newspapers, government reports, etc. have not compared Miscavige with Stalin, articles can't contain such personal opinion. Oh, btw, its 900+ OT VIII's now, heh. Terryeo 15:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)"

Terryeo is falsely accusing me of writing "Clambake.org essays" and his comment is uncivil.--Fahrenheit451 01:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks to me more like an assumption of bad faith. I note that Terryeo appears to have systematically assumed bad faith of almost any critic of Scientology contributing to the pages. Assumption of bad faith isn't a personal attack per se, but it can certainly lead to one slipping into such - David Gerard 08:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Please review an deletion made contrary to consensus

Please review the deletion of Names of European cities in different languages, and the related articles Names of Asian cities in different languages and Names of African cities in different languages. These were discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Names of European cities in different languages, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Names of Asian cities in different languages, and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Names of African cities in different languages.

The vote was: Keep: Future Perfect at Sunrise Interlingua Trialsanderrors Atillios Carlossuarez46 (me) Kierant Adam78 Khoikhoi Goldom Pasquale Eivind F Øyangen Fastifex Aguerriero Slowmover Lambiam Irpen Olessi Travelbird Nightstallion Agathoclea Folks at 137 Lethe Qviri Riadlem Peteris Cedrins Reimelt Nick C

Delete: Motor Theoldanarchist Mangojuice Dawson Isotope23 WicketheWok Centrx Angus McLellan Masterhatch Tychocat


That is: 27-10 to keep. While I know that it’s not a strict vote-counting exercise, the usual rule of thumb is not to delete unless there is a strong consensus expressed to do so – i.e., give the benefit of the doubt toward keeping. Here, process was thwarted.

The administrator closing the AfD acted contrary to the consensus expressed at the AfD by making his/her own judgment that the content was not encyclopedic. The whole issue of alternate placenames is very much encyclopedic and has been the subject on ongoing debate among Wikipedians, for example at: Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names) and the various disputes about whether to use “Danzig” or “Gdansk” for that city near the Baltic, etc.. Also, similar articles remain extant in several other Interwiki’s (since the article is deleted, the interwiki links are gone too, otherwise I could cite which), so they appear encyclopedic to people who speak other languages. Please restore the articles. Carlossuarez46 18:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

You might be interested to know that Wiktionary provides a better alternative than long lists of cities, though unfortunately this isn't as widely known as it should be. See for example http://en.wiktionary.org/Paris#Translations. -- ChrisO 20:11, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Medals

Yes, it's mine, as seen via a scanner plate... I've probably had a fairly interesting external life but fortunately it's been under the radar, as it were, so no WP:V for you! ;-) -- ChrisO

Need Help with Dragonfiend

Hi! I noticed you were involved in the RfA with Dragonfiend, so I thought I would seek your advice. Several roommates of mine have noted that Dragonfiend seems to be deleting any and all references to Okashina Okashi (OO) (my webcomic) from Wiki in general, using the justification "removing references to deleted article." The article in question was deleted via AfD, so I can understand some of Dragonfiend's edits, where she's eliminated some Wiki links and removed disambiguation links. But is an article being deleted from Wiki also cause to delete entries were referencing the comic name is beneficial to the article? For example, the Neon Genesis Evangelion has a section on popular reaction; a comic from OO was used to illustrate the point to help reference the statements made . However, Dragonfiend removed said example rather than simply de-wikifying the link as is more normal.

Most troubling, my roommates have told me she seems to ignore whatever justifications are presented to keep the references to OO. The Megatokyo Main Characters page, for example, lists Dom and Ed, two characters who are also in OO. Mentioning their presence in OO is important for the same reason you would mention a character in a novel appearing in another series under that character's profile. However, Dragonfiend completely cut any mention of OO from the page using the above reason. When my roommate said: "Adding back non-wikied mention of OO, since it's important to note for encyclopedic reasons places where a given character appears, including other webcomics," and restored the edit, Dragonfiend ignored him and deleted it yet again . He's posted a note on the article's talk page, but she has yet to respond.

A similar case exists with Sparkling Generation Valkyrie Yuuki, where she insists on deleting the fact that OO paid homage to SGVY; such a mention is important given that the influence one webcomic has on another helps establish its notability. Even when one of my roommates said: "A comic being referenced by another comic is important," he was ignored. I've tried engaging her in talks before, but she refuses to acknowledge her own instances of uncivil behavior (such as using the word "vanity" as a slur in AfD discussions, then saying it's justified since she thinks the article is vanity, either not realizing or refusing to admit the rhetorical implications of repeating a single word over and over as an insult).

My question is: does an article being deleted mean that any reference to the subject of that article is eliminated from Wiki completely? Or is it all right to mention in an article an item that, while NN on its own, intersects with a notable topic? If the latter, can you please tell Dragonfiend to stop removing every mention of OO she comes across? She hasn't proved this vengeful against any other deleted webcomic articles in the past, so I'm beginning to wonder why I'm receiving such special across the board deletion treatment. If this is standard Wiki procedure, I'll feel a little better and tell my roommates to stop getting into revert wars with her. Thanks! Xuanwu 08:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Discussion at Village pump

Please have a look at Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)#Resolving_content_disputes. Please help me to find the answer to my questions. Thanks.--AndriyK 14:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

And I don't care...

Davey crack corn and I don't care, Davey talk nonsense and I don't care, Davey break articles and it pisses me off, he really ought to know better. I don't give a flying fart if Misplaced Pages is Fark, Slashdot or the bloody BBC, civility be damned, if you wish to tromp about as if you know better than the next man, you better fucking know better. You don't, or you would not have made an incorrect edit twice. Feel free to learn about a subject before you go talking about it. I didn't revert your nonsense in the beginning, it could have been one of 3 other people in the house - but they were completely right and you a total fool. It's dumbasses like yourself that make editing articles here a painful experience. Janizary 21:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)