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: Basically that's it. There's already substantial content-based evidence to make it very likely he's the same editor reincarnated, but a block on content matching alone is less desirable, especially on a new article where there could be the chance of error. So its mainly to confirm if JHartley is a reincarnation of any previous HeadleyDown ID according to checkuser too. ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] | ])</span></sup> 20:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC) : Basically that's it. There's already substantial content-based evidence to make it very likely he's the same editor reincarnated, but a block on content matching alone is less desirable, especially on a new article where there could be the chance of error. So its mainly to confirm if JHartley is a reincarnation of any previous HeadleyDown ID according to checkuser too. ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] | ])</span></sup> 20:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


{{Inconclusive}} Per Arbcom, if he's acting and editing like a HeadleyDown sock go ahead and block him. ] ] 00:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


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HeadleyDown / JHartley

After finally removing HeadleyDown from neuro-linguistic programming (for the time being) an interesting editor has arrived on another page I work heavily on. He uses a similar phrasing and approach to user:HeadleyDown and HeadleyDown's sock/meatpuppets. HeadleyDown uses a range of IPs around the world, and according to user:David Gerard, he is identifiable from conduct and behavior only. He ran around 20 socks, using them to distort the previous article to his own favored viewpoint, and left with a flurry of socks including attack_s0ck (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), messages from IPs in Hong Kong, the UK and the USA, and a promise to "be back".

As such it's hard to give too many specifics, but those who've edited on on articles he worked on during the last year have got to know his "style" very well. I'm concerned that out of the blue, and after 18 months of peace on zoophilia, JHartley (talk · contribs) arrives with similar style and agenda to user:HeadleyDown, on another controversial article I edit, days after the last suspected HeadleyDown socks/meats are removed from the first article.

There is at least one specific giveaway to HeadleyDown's puppets, and it shows up in JHartley's text too. If requested, I'll email it with DIFFs rather than post them openly, as there are a few really good signs, and I don't want to give them away oopenly.

A current list of HeadleyDown's known socks and meats is at WP:LTA#HeadleyDown and socks/meats and include:

Suspected unconfirmed socks or meats:

FT2 20:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

 Clerk note: Request for clarification. This is mainly to find out whether JHartley is a reincarnation of HeadleyDown, correct?Thatcher131 20:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Basically that's it. There's already substantial content-based evidence to make it very likely he's the same editor reincarnated, but a block on content matching alone is less desirable, especially on a new article where there could be the chance of error. So its mainly to confirm if JHartley is a reincarnation of any previous HeadleyDown ID according to checkuser too. FT2 20:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

 Inconclusive Per Arbcom, if he's acting and editing like a HeadleyDown sock go ahead and block him. Mackensen (talk) 00:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


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HeadleyDown

We recently had User:HeadleyDown blocked along with a whole mess of sock and/or meatpuppets (User:HansAntel, User:AliceDeGrey, User:Camridge, User:Bookmain and others) from the University of Hong Kong skeptics club. Now we have User:Hylas Chung and User:HongKongMasterofSci, who is posting in the same types of places that Headley et all posted to. I'd like a checkuser on this user. He/she and the others blocked seem to think that we're targeting Hong Kong. No. We are targeting this club that has already produced 7 or 8 sock/meatpuppets and who I suspect is going to spur on more so they can influence the Neuro-linguistic Programming article. Hylas came onto the site about the time that Headley et all started being blocked. HongKongMasterofSci came onto the site just today, right after I blocked User:Helen Wu, who admitted to being in the skeptics group. Thanks. --Woohookitty 10:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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HeadleyDown / BrightonRock101

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Almost certainly another sock/meatpuppet related to the banned HeadleyDown sock/meat group mentioned at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Neuro-linguistic_programming#Documentation_of_bans. Evidence -- following ban of the sock/meatpuppet ring there have been ongoing sock attempts to continue vandalizing the article, with the latest being a sock (MastaMan) blocked today, immediately followed by another sock (Attack s0ck), also blocked today, both occurring earlier today (June 12). This seems exactly like one more sockpuppet.

Second, for the record, can we have formal confirmation that the dormant accounts AMaulden (talk · contribs) and JaseC (talk · contribs) were also socks, and have them blocked? Evidence -- in the middle of Arbcom voting and discussion, AMaudlen wanders in out of the blue, acts like HeadleyDown, vanishes never to be seen again when called on it, to be replaced almost immediately by JaseC, who appears out of the blue, acts like HeadleyDown, then also vanishes when called on it, also never to be seen again. Both "new" users in the space of 24 hours when Arbcom voting was being discussed.

List of identified socks:

FT2 (Talk) 18:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

 Clerk note: Everyone listed here except BrightonRock101 (talk · contribs), Oblio Yu HK (talk · contribs), AMaulden (talk · contribs) & JaseC (talk · contribs) have been indef-blocked for sockpuppet use/vandalism. --Srikeit 19:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

FT2 (Talk) 21:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Red X Unrelated. BrightonRock101 is coming from the UK, MastaMan and Attack s0ck from Louisville, Kentucky. Oblio Yu HK (talk · contribs), AMaulden (talk · contribs) & JaseC (talk · contribs) are too old to check. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 07:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)