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Jack, I don't believe you are right in your interpretation. The original research page does not rule out deductive reasoning, the example given is not deductive reasoning. I will get other people's opinion on this. Arniep 15:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Jack, I just think you are misunderstanding the policy. Regards Arniep 15:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Jack, you totally misread me. I would prefer the lists were deleted as I don't see how what country one of your forebears comes from has anything to do with with what these people are famous for (although it may in a few cases). But as long as they exist we should not be subjective about who is or is not included by being picky about words. Arniep 15:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Mandy Moore

Although it was originally submitted by Parys, it appears to not be a hoax. See (you have to register to view the magazine scans) Mad Jack 20:08, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It looks like you are right - so thanks for noticing that. Weird that the magazine made such an error. However, the paragraph that you deleted had some relevant and properly sourced info, so I ought to restore part of it. BTW, I am going to submit this to FA status very soon. Do you have any thoughts on possible improvements/etc.? Appreciated Mad Jack 05:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a fashion magazine. I wouldn't expect them to get everything right when it comes to music (they may even have been taken in by the info on Misplaced Pages). I personally wouldn't re-add it until something official is announced. I'm not really a fan of Mandy Moore myself and I only started keeping an eye on the article when a vandal I was chasing started goofing with it. I do think that the magazine cover scan in the infobox may prove to be a copyright problem in the context it's used in though... --Kurt Shaped Box 19:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

aight

well I'mma look it up cuz lots of french jews moved to the us before the war. But trust me the last name Lyone is definitely not jewish and most likely french. I'll look my sources but thanks for precising before editing, I apprreciated. And actually thanks for launching a debate on these french americans, but you've removed way too many. Time to write some back, I've spent the last two years on working on this project. (though it was for my university). take care buddy Abdelkweli 20:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

leblanc has french ancestry. he's a french-american. his last name is french. What's a french-american anyway? It's like what's an american? nothing they all come from somewhere in Europe. Matt LeBlanc is a french-american! Abdelkweli 20:15, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

From Isis

Yes, Mad Jack - I know. Just trying to interject some humour here; too much tension. :)

Women lawyers

It does, indeed, exist. I've added a few people in the past, and I just checked Allred and saw she wasn't listed, which is a bit unusual. Michael 07:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think it's more significant to have a women lawyers category, as it wasn't common for women to practice law in large numbers until recently. If we had a men lawyers category, who knows how many hundreds we would have listed. Michael 07:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that's very true...In today's society, sexism and whatnot can be twisted in either way...For example, giving up your seat while waiting for a table at a restaurant may be viewed as merely doing it because she's a female, and not doing it may make you look anti-female. The world has gone mad. Michael 07:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Lists

Jack, please at least try and act civily, you do not own these lists however much work you have put into them. Arniep 09:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:MandyMooreImage.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:MandyMooreImage.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page to provide the necessary information on the source or licensing of this image (if you have any), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. feydey 21:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

OR on ethnicity lists

Thanks for letting me know. You're absolutely right, of course. Jayjg 00:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Rudy Perpich

I have re-added Rudy Perpich to List of Croatian Americans. If the source I have cited in the article is insufficient, please read my comments on the article's Talk page in which I have cited a second source providing further justification for Perpich's inclusion in the article. --TommyBoy 02:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

"I've never heard this and can find nothing on it. Get me a source!"

Yes, well, it was a pretty weird fact, lol. Michael 07:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I see. I'm working on the women lawyers...Having to rake through about twenty pages of names (mostly male) on just the American lawyers page is more time-consuming than one might imagine. Then, of course, there's no alphabetical order in the cats...Well, I'd best get back to work. Twenty-two more letters in the alphabet to go, lol. Michael 07:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Finally, I got through all of the American lawyers, adding the females to the Women lawyers cat. Now, tomorrow I shall begin with women lawyers from other nations. It's 5:00 AM, and I should really be in bed. Michael 08:59, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

category links

Wiki is very inconsistent (surprise, surprise) in how to handle category links for articles and categories where both have the same name (such as Lincoln). Not only true for bio articles, but also other types of articles. Is there policy guidance on this? If there is policy, is it clear and unambiguous. If not, something should be proposed and approval obtained as there are many article/category with links in one or other (either may be wrong) and with links in both article and category (usually not helpful). Thanks Hmains 16:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I was not questioning your change to Lincoln, I just looked at Lincoln and saw more possibles for change and have been noting this problem in lots of articles/categories I have looked at in the past several weeks. I had no good idea where the links should be so I did not touch most of them yet and wondered about policy help. Thanks Hmains 16:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Deepwater

Shouldn't Deepwater be considered a 2005 film since it was screened at at least two film festivals in June 2005? I'm not quite sure what Misplaced Pages goes by, but IMDb has it as 2005...-Bri 17:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

As long as you have some sort of method, I'll go with it, becuase it works for me...-Bri 18:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

abdel kweli

my article was named American of French descent not French-Americans. Abdelkweli 15:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


thanks for answering kindly and debating with arguments. I really liked your last message, I guess it's easier to work hands in hands. In the case that you can't confirm how ("much") french someone is, how can you confirm how "much" nationality most americans are? It's more of a debating question, not an aggressive question and I know wikipedia is not the place to debate this but it should be. anyway take care and good luck Abdelkweli 17:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Killer Diller

Just wanted to let you know I wrote articles on Killer Diller and Clyde Edgerton, the author of the original novel on which the film is based. Just wanted to "complete" Lucas' filmography.-Bri 17:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

fansites

Eh, its all good. I'm having delightful fun removing crap, and most fansites are really just total brownnosing BS. Please do replace a link that I shouldn't have deleted, but I feel most of them shouldn't be linked here at all. Desertsky85450 21:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Irish

Jayjg and GN disagree with your interpretation as they specifically say that they must be sourced as "Irish-American" not Irish. Arniep 00:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, Irish-American is a label, as you stated yourself. Arniep 00:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)