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DYK for No Mediocre

On 31 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article No Mediocre, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that "No Mediocre" was intended as "something to uplift women"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/No Mediocre. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Song Notability/Deletion

How come all these songs that have been tagged as Fails Notability haven't been merged or deleted by an administrator yet? Jingalin should be by now and I believe When I Feel Like It should be as well. Just seeing if you can give me some insight as to how long it normally takes for them to decide or if it's even a concern. BlaccCrab (talk) 19:02, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

@BlaccCrab: Administrators do not patrol pages that have that maintenance tag on it. If anyone sees a song as not meeting WP:NSONGS, they may nominate them at Articles for Deletion or boldly redirect them. I would not suggest you not doing the latter, since you seem to not understand WP:GNG or WP:NSONGS, judging by your tagging of "When I Feel Like It". It is more then clear from looking at the references that it was significantly covered in reliable sources. Being old is not a criteria for deletion. STATic message me! 19:17, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Why are you being rude again? I Literally just asked a question. And how exactly is that song not up for deletion? Despite being scrapped (hence old, which wasn't even my point) it didn't make it past the bubbling under r&b/hip hop chart nor rhythmic/hot 100 or any relevant chart. What major publication covered the song? It's probably the only song featuring 2 Chainz that no one even knows existed let alone all the things I just pointed out. BlaccCrab (talk) 05:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

@BlaccCrab: I am not, apologies if you took it that way. I just told you, being tagged with a maintenance tag does not make the article up for deletion. That can only happen if it was placed at WP:AFD. Being scrapped from the album is also zero reason for deletion, I have asked you to see WP:NSONGS and understand what it means. Chart positions do not immediately make songs notable, and songs that chart low or do not chart are not immediately not notable. If you would look at the references section you would see the coverage, but you do not understand WP:N. I have it in iTunes, enough people bought it to make it chart, and it has been viewed 2,000+ times in the last three months, so there are people that certainly know it exists. Why are you refusing to listen to anything I tell you? STATic message me! 16:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Dreams Worth More Than Money

Appreciate the clean up bro, It has been a while since I done this. Some other editor tried to delete the page because there wasn't enough "information," but anything else i add if you want to clean up and make it look nice...go for it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jay2020 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

@Jay2020: No problem bro. STATic message me! 19:59, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj feuds

Refer to Talk:Nicki Minaj for proof if you don't believe me. There is still an ongoing discussion about the feuds and issues in regards of a separate talk page that has yet to meet an agreement. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 18:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

@ChocoLantern88: Of course I saw that discussion. However, it does not have anything to do with their being a separate article at all. If you think there shouldn't be one, WP:AFD is the venue. STATic message me! 19:58, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

MTV VMA's BFV

Hey there. As i see you're interested in hip hop music and sometimes you're editing Juicy J's article. Can you tell me should i put MTV VMA's Best Female Video category at his Awards and nominations section? This year "Dark Horse" is nominated for that award. Just the little problem is that the category is titled "Best Female Video", but when they announce the nominees during the awards they also reveal the featured artist's name (if there is one). Thank ya, waitin' for ya answer --Eurofan88 (talk) 20:22, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

@Eurofan88: IMO I do not think we should, it would look weird and it is not that major of an award for him anyways. STATic message me! 02:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Turn Down For What

Hey,

Just wanted to ask why my edit claiming that "Mad Decent" released Turn Down for What was removed. If you consider the actual ISRC, it was released under Columbia but also as well from Mad Decent which you know is another division of Jefree's publishing. Is there any reason why my revert was edited other than the one I have posted above? If so, please do let me know

Thanks SwervingStyle

Sorry to message again, but I see that you have also reverted my edits made to Cashmere Cat and Mad Decent's roster. I don't see why. Jack U is Diplo's project with fellow artist Skrillex and it was made clear on the official Mad Decent site that Jack U will be releasing everything via Mad Decent's label. Doesn't that allow for the Jack U to be placed under the Mad Decent artist's spot? Additionally, Cashmere Cat has been signed to Mad Decent. He is currently on the roster as two of his new tracks were released under Mad Decent and furthermore, he is taking part in the Mad Decent Block Party. Please do explain in further why I may be wrong,

Thanks

@SwervingStyle: Reliable sources must be cited for all content additions. Who is Jefree? The song was released under Columbia, who DJ Snake is signed to. The Cashmere Cat label addition was not sourced and they are not listed here, since they would be one of the biggest artists on the label, you can be sure they would be listed there. The Jack U addition should have been supported with a citation to a source and Outkast is most certainly not signed to Mad Decent, was that just vandalism or what? STATic message me! 15:02, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Pro Era

Hey. I noticed you pretty much reverted my changes to the article. Before I (or you, or we) put them back I want us to agree on something; the infobox is clearly too long and it sort of makes the top part of the article a bit of an eyesore. Since infoboxes are meant to be a sort of summary I only left the most popular members of the group (obviously Joey Badass, CJ Fly, Kirk Knight, Nyck Caution and Chuck Strangers, plus Powers Pleasant since he's one of the founders of the collective) in the infobox and put that See members below part to let the reader see the entire roster in the Members section. Putting all the musical artists in both the infobox (making it too long) and the section is unnecessarily repetitive in my opinion. My point is even strengthened by the fact that you left the See members below part in the infobox (which maybe should change to See all members below, although not all the members are listed in the article). Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 17:35, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

And I'm not sure whether Kwon Swank's a rapper though. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 17:36, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

@Davykamanzi: What gives you the authority to pick and choose who to list? You're determination of popularity is both WP:OR and not WP:NPOV. It makes sense to list all the musical members. I would like you to point out any high quality article doesn't. Also the columns you tried to make was not proper in the infobox and the ones in the body were also not proper as they clashed with the image. I only left the members link for anyone that is interested in who the non-musical members are. STATic message me! 17:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm not trying to give myself any authority or whatever. It's just my opinion that we shouldn't have to repeat all the members in both the infobox and the section. It doesn't make sense to me. And my reasoning behind the members I named was that since Capital Steez, Joey Badass, CJ Fly and Powers Pleasant are the ones who started the collective, they should be in the infobox, and since then Kirk Knight, Chuck Strangers and Nyck Caution have become prominent members as well, since they appear in most of the group's collective songs and, along with the founders, are usually prominent figures at their concerts and stuff as well. Aside from all that I can agree with you on the matter with the columns. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 18:06, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

By the way I can't see how WP:OR comes in here. I'm picking out information that was already in the article; I don't need to have done original research for that. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 18:08, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

@Davykamanzi: Well we do, at least the musical members. I asked you to point me to any hip hop group or band article that doesn't, and you haven't. When you select a few and call them the "prominent members", that is your WP:OR as you have no source for that. We are supposed to list the whole group, not just a select notable few. STATic message me! 15:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

TF Age Of Extinction cast

Why will you only let Wahlberg and Tucci be the cast on the page for TF4? You revert edits that show the proper cast of the movie and I jus wanna know why. Jacob Sudduth — Preceding undated comment added 04:13, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Eminem videography

Would you care to join me in making such a page? There is also an ongoing discussion on his discography page about splitting the article into an albums discography page, a singles discography page, and a videography page. The structure of Justin Timberlake videography would be a good basis for constructing the page. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:01, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

@SNUGGUMS: I am afraid I would not be able to help you with construction of the page, due to the limited time I have been able to help out on here in the last few months, which has grown increasing less recently. I certainly support the split of the articles, but due to the lack of opposition on the talk page I do not think I need to additionally comment there unless some pops up. Thanks for leaving me a message though, good to hear from you. STATic message me! 06:13, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

No problem, bro. Good to hear from you as well. Snuggums (talk / edits) 10:24, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

808s & Heartbreak

Can you reverted edits by User:Vanillagreek? (the user has been blocked by User:DoRD) And also, tell other admin to change protection level of the page to allow only admin and indefinitely. 183.171.160.95 (talk) 02:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

That page has been the subject of edit warring by a blocked user using multiple sockpuppet accounts and various IP address'. Looks like this issue had been taken care of by the time I had a change to respond to you. STATic message me! 06:16, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

The Pinkprint

It would be appreciated if you looked over and voted on the move request for The Pink Print to the The Pinkprint. Up to this point there hasn't been a direct response as to which spelling was correct. Nicki Minaj herself clarified the question directly stating it was written, "The Pinkprint", (https://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ/status/497117375712329728). Leave either your support or opposition for the move here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:The_Pink_Print#Requested_move_06_August_2014.

Thank you for your time, KaneZolanski (talk) 00:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC).

User Draft

Never seen a user space draft but it was attached to the Talk Dirty (album) page so I got rid of it.BlaccCrab (talk) 16:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

@BlaccCrab: You can identify them by the "User:Andsnurcn/ prefix. Good job on removing the link to it on the Talk Dirty page, as main space articles should never link to user drafts. STATic message me! 14:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Wu

Static Vapor, what's wrong with you? You can't revert edits by more than half a dozen different people, edits that came with summaries, with one shitty edit summary, "vandalism and unsourced content removal". Bullshit. Look at the edits, and look at the terrible condition of the stuff that was removed. You're supposed to be a GA editor: act like one. Drmies (talk) 02:49, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

@Drmies: There is nothing shitty about my edit summary, it explained that revert. You removed over 10,000 bytes of sourced content without a single word in the edit summary, that is most certainly worthy of a warning if you were not an admin. Someone needs to take care with the content removal if there needs to be one and you need to stop adding back the unsourced content. STATic message me! 02:55, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Partly sourced bullshit fan chat is what you mean. And what is your excuse for all the other edits? Drmies (talk) 03:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

• Static, I got a better idea. Why don't we make this article better? The amount of unsourced information is still immense, though the amount of trivia is more manageable. You know how to find the relevant sources and how to format these articles: the band is important enough to deserve a much better article (though I didn't care much for their show on Stewart's show). Drmies (talk) 13:24, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

@Drmies: What I restored right now was not "Partly sourced bullshit fan chat". Drmies, edit summaries that fully explain your removals would just be nice, instead of edits like this with not a single word in the edit summary. I agree that there was a lot of unsourced trivia, and that is why I only restored that one section. That one section is most certainly worthy of including until there is a separate album article to break the information on to. Try to delve deeper then the Daily Show appearance, it kinda sucked. STATic message me! 16:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

OK. Look, there is certainly stuff to be said about that album--but what we're saying now is nothing, nothing of any value whatsoever--just announcements. A Facebook post, a complaint (?) that one guy only worked on two songs, etc.--it doesn't even try to rise above the level of gossip. Plus, I don't see how "RZA has also said he had talked to Adrian Younge about working on a song for the album" is better than "Adrian Younge was to work on one of the songs". "Also" is typically filler, and "said he had talked to" is more verbosity. Note that I didn't even remove it. But have it your way. And that one edit summary you complain about, I had an edit conflict with an IP editor, so please forgive me. Drmies (talk) 22:41, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Transformers "Billing Block"

STATicVapor, there's something despicable going on involving one of your edits. You've seemed to have some good edits to show for, but the edit for the Transformers: Age of Extincsion block is obserd and pointless. Why cast only Mark and Stanley when there's clearly more than one maincharacter throughout the movie? What's the purpose? - Theironminer (talk), 10:38, 10 August, 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 14:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Theironminer: Complain all you want. There is consensus to only list those that are on the poster's billing block. See Template: Infobox film. It says for the starring field you should, "Insert the names of the actors as they are listed in the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release. If unavailable, use the top-billed actors from the screen credits. Other additions by consensus." STATic message me! 17:23, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Then the artists who made that poster obviously didn't care about putting more actors in the credits who play important characters. The 'starring' section shouldn't have to be like what the poster says, if there's more important characters in the movie than Mark and Stanely, then they should be put in that section. And I consider your previous word choice of "complain all you want" to be very rude and uncalled for. - Theironminer (talk), 15:27, 10 August, 2014

@Theironminer: I guess they didn't, some of the actors you added sure deserved to be listed, but this was not an artist decision, it was a studio decision. If you think it should not have to be what the poster says take it to Template talk: Infobox film, because that is what the current consensus of film article editors is. Or if you want local consensus, wait for someone to respond to you on the article talk page. You are being very rude to me, calling my edit "obserd (sic) and pointless", but you think I am the rude one. STATic message me! 19:43, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

We're both being rude right now. I don't "think" you're the rude one. - Theironminer (talk), 16:39, 10 August, 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 20:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes that is what happens when you are rude to someone first, you should know this. Anyways I already gave you suggestions on what to do and you did not respond to any of that. STATic message me! 19:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Bro, I was busy. You can't expect me to get on it immediately. - Theironminer (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

The Lego Movie

Your message to my talk page is patronizing and rude. I hope you know that I've been a Wikipedian longer than you; please don't treat more experienced members in such a demeaning way. As for the edit you reverted, WP:V hardly applies. The relevant information is at WP:MINREF, which states that not everything needs a reference. Per MINREF: "Technically, if an article contains none of these four types of material (BLP material, material that could be or was challenged, direct quotations), then it is not required by any policy to name any sources at all, either as inline citations or as general references".--ɱ (talk) 15:32, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

That is kind of sad then, you should not be adding your own original research to articles. WP:V certainly applies and all subjective content MUST be sourced. You are also directly contradicting yourself, it certainly was "material that could be or was challenged", it was tagged with Template:CN, and then I later removed it. So two editors challenged it and you still restored it without a source. STATic message me! 17:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

I like how you say (in your edit notice for this talk page) "...I'm not new, so please don't slap me with a generic "Welcome to Misplaced Pages" warning template", yet you do that to editors who are older than you? I think you're contradicting yourself. Anyway, the content was not subjective or could be rightfully challenged. The information you removed does not need a reference, being simple, understandable, and unquestionable material. Anyone who has seen the film can tell you that those are themes relevant to the film. It should not have been given a CN tag. Whoever gave it the tag was thinking just like you, that 'whatever content doesn't have a citation needs to go'. The CN tag is only used in good judgement of material that is probably false. As stated on MINREF, "Editors are expected to use good judgment when determining whether material has been challenged." If any editor expresses doubt in the veracity of the material, the proper procedure is to put a CN tag and dispute the fact's truth on the talk page, not merely tag it and delete it soon afterwards. Too many Wikipedians have no sense of proper procedure. Until several editors honestly express doubt in that content's accuracy, the content has all rights to stay.--ɱ (talk) 20:32, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

To be clear - you can't just challenge it because you want a citation. There has to be a strong reason for you to doubt the content's veracity. That hasn't been stated by anyone, so as of now, the content by all means has the right to be included.--ɱ (talk) 20:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

An older Misplaced Pages editor, does not mean you are the wiser one. If you created your account before me and you are still violating WP:V and WP:NOR, then that is a serious problem. The content was certainly subjective and per WP:V all content in a encyclopedia should be cited. Your statement of "Anyone who has seen the film can tell you that those are themes relevant to the film", just proves even more that you do not understand the Misplaced Pages policy of WP:OR. I have seen the film myself, but I would not create a unsourced section about my opinion of the themes the film covers. STATic message me! 04:39, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

You're wrong, an older editor just doesn't necessarily mean I engross myself in the particulars of the many Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines. I am a largely a contributor of content on Misplaced Pages and the Commons, I do not specialise in such trivial matters. And you can say that the information is subjective all you want, but it is simply understandable and unquestionable material. Also, I am surprised that when I tell you standard and certainly courteous procedure for removing content, you just proceed to insult me and my knowledge of policy. And WP:V may tell you one thing, though WP:POLICIES and WP:RULES specify that WP:V and the other policy pages are not hard-and-fast rules that must be obeyed; it's the same reasoning behind WP:IAR. I am in the middle of disputing a WP:V inconsistency anyway; I will get back to you on this. It is still clear that your arguments are incorrect just like so many others have argued this; please see Misplaced Pages:Perennial proposals on 'requiring inline citations for everything'.--ɱ (talk) 11:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Revert per WP:DENY

Please stop reverting back in edits from a banned user utilizing a sock. The reason for reverting his edits the first time around was clear: Revert per WP:DENY. Every time you revert his edits back in you are circumventing policy and giving the sock a victory. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 17:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: The IP address has not been blocked or confirmed as a sockpuppet, and it does not look as WP:DUCK as you think. So you should not be reverting them yet. Since when did they ever edit hip-hop articles? You are jumping to crazy conclusions, if they improved the article then the edit should stay. Once you revert my edit to improve the article, you are reverting me, not the sockpuppet. So you must give a valid reason. Instead of just edit warring and ruining the article. STATic message me! 18:23, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Ruining the article? How silly. There is no deadline in Misplaced Pages. Regardless of whether you think because the edit was good it should stay, DENY policy is clear. And your incivility and personal attacks are noted. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 23:18, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: You most certainly were trashing up the article. Thanks for not responding to the points about the IP address not being confirmed and blocked as a sock yet. You can cry wolf about incivility and personal attacks, anyone including myself reading this obviously can see that, that claim is b.s. STATic message me! 04:49, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

AfD Maat Morrison

Hi, you commented "delete" on Maat Morrison article for deletion. The subject clearly do not fail on WP:MUSICBIO for criteria for musician and ensembles:

11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. 12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

as described in the subject, the musician has reached popularity on national radio rotation (in case of him, international) in the United States. Can you please describe me, why you don't agree with the page, is it bad to help Misplaced Pages adding new musicians?

Have a great day
HaroldSalasI (talk) 04:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

@HaroldSalasI: There is no reliable third party source for his music being played on US radio and it must have been put on rotation, not just played. As for 12, the article does not indicate that happened. When it is "as described in the subject", how do you know it is true and they are not just trying to make themselves seem more notable? It is not bad by creating articles, but we have notability guidelines so not everyone that picks up a mic has a Misplaced Pages article. STATic message me! 16:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

@STATIcVapor:, the music has been put on rotation in DR radio and Colombia radio for 3 months, and been played 100+ times in the US. We claim for a little respect in the talk page, and remain civil when you talk about an article or an user. The artist that I've wrote about, is not "anyone that picked up a mic and started singing/rapping or a camera and record himself", so please keep the professionalism by trying not to direct offend people, or I suggest you to please stay our of my article talk page. HaroldSalasI (talk) 19:42, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Island Records logo

Hey Static, it's Shallowharold. I was looking at the new album by The Gaslight Anthem and I noticed that Island Records has introduced a new logo for their label. It's pretty much the world "Island" in capital letters with their signature palm tree logo hidden inside the letter "A". I don't know if you happened to see it, so here's the new logo straight from their website- which is undergoing a change after Universal Music Group decided to dismantle The Island Def Jam Music Group a few months back. http://www.islandrecords.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shallowharold (talk • contribs)

@Shallowharold: Very interesting. If you can find the logo online it upload it so the image in the infobox of Island Records can be changed. STATic message me! 19:31, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I'm new to this but I've been trying to follow a discussion that you have been involved in and I follow your point. It seems that the article is discussed in many different places in WP and many of the discussions have been moved making it hard to understand what's going on. Could you help me understand how archives and discussions get changed and moved from the subject's talk page. I noticed that this archive ] which says "do not change" cannot be found on the subject's talk page and the archives that are there seem radically different. The resulting new archive on the subject is quite different and misleading. How can one tell when an archive has been changed or removed? Any help with understanding this would be appreciated. Thanks, Nothingknewunderthesun (talk) 20:24, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Calm Down

Ahaha, I misread "unsourced" as "uncensored" on your revert of the Composition section (I thought you minded the n-words); so sorry, haha! --Khanassassin ☪ 00:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

@Khanassassin: Ooookay haha. Yeah I was confused about the censorship talk in your edit summary, but its all good man. I do not mind some bad words at all. I cannot remember the last time I listed to the clean version of a good song outside of radio or television. STATic message me! 06:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Snowgoons Page

hi, this ia manuu from the snowgoons. i want to ask you if you could put our label Goon MuSick in the info section before the old label Babygrande. further could you help me set up the Goon MuSick wikipedia page? you can email too so i can send you all the info at manuu@snowgoons.de

thanks alot for your work peace manuu --Snowgoons (talk) 15:00, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@Snowgoons: Putting it first would be fine, feel free to do that. It is just meant to list every label, not just the current one you guys release music under. I am afraid I would not be able to help you with a record label page as my time on here is much more limited and I hardly write articles anymore. Maybe instead make a section in the Snowgoons about the record label and I might be able to help you with that. STATic message me! 15:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@STATicVapor: I will change it soon but i wanna set the Goon MuSick page first so i can link it. Unfortunatly someone deleted it and i have to rewrite it first. I'll also make a section in Snowgoons page as you suggested. Thanks for your time and help, i really appreciate it. --Snowgoons (talk) 16:48, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@Snowgoons: No problem at all bro. STATic message me! 23:54, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@STATicVapor: update: i placed our target logo image inside the infobox of the Snowgoons page. The label is called Goon MuSick not Goons MuSick (someone wrote Goons MuSick). i fixed it. The Goon MuSick page/article is waiting for a review and is located over here User:Snowgoons/Goon MuSick. I don't know if it's ok to link it (inside the Snowgoons article) yet because the link might change to Goon MuSick once it is on mainstream? wiki is still pretty new to me =) I also moved Goon MuSick infront of Babygrande (info box). have a great day Snowgoons (talk) 08:26, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

@Snowgoons: Yes you should wait until the article is in the mainspace before linking to it. You have a great day too. STATic message me! 17:00, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

So Far Genre

I understand what you mean about the need for neutral point of view in relation to the genre of the song So Far.... I still believe that comedy rap should be placed as a genre however. Can you please help to explain either why that would be wrong, or explain how I can make that so that it is a part of the genre. NewJibaJabba (talk) 05:43, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@NewJibaJabba: It cannot be included, since that is just your opinion or original research. Subgenres need to be cited by multiple reliable sources to be included. STATic message me! 07:32, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok thank you for clarification on this issue. NewJibaJabba (talk) 05:49, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit

I'm new here on Misplaced Pages. Can you edit the article I've created, Denzel Curry. I don't know what you mean by reliable and secondary sources, and I don't want it to be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nba-fan-11 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@Nba-fan-11: When you leave talk page messages, you should sign them with four ~ symbols, just letting you know. As for your question, see WP:RS and WP:IRS. Examples of reliable sources for music subjects are MTV, XXL, The Fader, HipHopDX, Complex, Spin, among many others. See a good example at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albums/Sources. The article is not currently up for deletion, it is a tag that says there are notability concerns. Articles on rappers have to meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. I see that is only has two refs to reliable third party sources (DJBooth and Complex), which is not enough. This is why when you created Bas (rapper) I added a bunch of sources to the article, so no one could question the notability. STATic message me! 00:09, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Yukmouth and reliable sources

Hey man,

The edit I did was regarding associated acts. I added 2 Live Crew and the 2 members Fresh Kid Ice and Brother Marquis.

Luniz the band of Yukmouth did a featuring on the 2 Live Crew album The Real one. At the time of The Real one Fresh Kid Ice and Brother Marquis were the only two members of 2 Live Crew.

See for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/The_Real_One.

Also I still haven't figured on how to attach reliable sources.

Thank You

Filmman3000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filmman3000 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@Filmman3000: The associated acts section is not for one or two time collaborations. It is only for the most significant people to their career, you know people they collaborated with 5+ times. STATic message me! 00:13, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

@Filmman3000: See WP:CITE to learn how to add them to the article and see WP:IRS to learn how to identify them. STATic message me! 00:25, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Screen Gems

Why do you think Screen Gems is not a distributor? Sony Pictures Releasing is just some name pulled off IMDB. Every Sony movie is released under 3 banners, either Columbia Pictures, Sony Pictures Classics or Screen Gems. Go to the Screen Gems film list and see every one of their film's lists them as the distributor. Koala15 (talk) 00:06, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Fresh Kid Ice Page

Dear STATICVapor,

Please Stop tempering with the Fresh Kid Ice page, however I invite you to help me improve it. I have putted a lot of work into it. This gentlemen is one of the founding father and still a current member of the revolutionary group 2 Live Crew, on top of discovering the rapper Flo Rida. If you need citations I will get to it shortly. While Mr. Mixx and Luther Campbell have pages of their own, I don't understand why you are doing this. I also intend to make a page for the other 2 Live Crew Member Brother Marquis. If you want me to improve my writing, my methods, or my style please give constructive feedback but please do not delete my work.

Thank You

Filmman3000

@Filmman3000: I already explained my reasoning to you. The subject is not very significant outside of the group and the consensus of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Fresh Kid Ice was closed as a redirect, so it must stay that way. STATic message me! 21:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

@STATICVapor: Well I disagree with that kind of reasoning we would have to cancel the pages of Dj Yella, Mc Ren, other 2 Live Crew Members, Pete Best, all underground artist, and so forth. The guy is in a major band, discovered Flo Rida, and is the first Asian Rapper on a Platinum Rap Album. If 2 Live Crew never had a Gold record I would agree. So no it must not stay that way. I will debate it and it is not obliged to stay this way. Don't get me wrong I respect your devotion, and please leave my work alone.

Denzel Curry

I edited the article Denzel Curry with more secondary sources as you said. Can you review it now. Nba-fan-11 (talk) 00:08, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Images

Yeah, uploading images to Misplaced Pages. I also redirected Young Sinatra: Undeniable to Logic_(rapper). Why was it nominated for deletion? --Nba-fan-11 (talk) 05:07, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

@Nba-fan-11: Did you look at WP:UPLOAD? Do you want to know how to upload album/single/mixtape covers or images of rappers? As for Young Sinatra, I tried to redirect it, but since you challenged it, I was not going to edit war about it. I will clarify in the AfD that I support redirection, but you could also vote for that too. STATic message me! 17:03, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

@STATicVapor: Yeah, I've read that already but I still don't understand it. And yes, I mean both Album covers, and images of rappers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nba-fan-11 (talk • contribs) --Nba-fan-11 (talk) 05:45, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Nba-fan-11: For album/single covers use this page. For images for rappers, they have to be free images or images you have taken yourself. You can use WP:Flikr to upload some from Flikr. STATic message me! 03:01, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@STATicVapor: Thanks --Nba-fan-11 (talk) 05:45, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	thanks for your help =) Snowgoons (talk) 09:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

X (Chris Brown album)

Hello, allow me to offer my kind critique regarding the apparent edit war over at X (Chris Brown album). I know you mean well, but you shouldn't clutter the page history using edit summaries to communicate when you have a lonely talk page designed for that very purpose. You cannot force BRD on others. BRD can work, BRRRD can not. Thanks for your understanding — MusikAnimal 06:07, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: I kept asking them to start a discussion per WP:BRD, but they refused. I just cannot stand unnecessary, poorly-sourced speculation in articles. STATic message me! 15:24, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Sales figures

I see that you reverted the edit for the sales figure of All of Me. I believe you misunderstood why Hits Daily Double sales figures are not considered reliable. The HDD figures that are considered unreliable are from the building charts and predictions - they collect only information from the major vendors (one day or 3-4 day sales for the prediction and the whole week for the building chart) and extrapolate sales for all vendors in these charts. The extrapolation of the sales is why those figures are unreliable. However, apart from those charts, HDD uses SoundScan numbers and not their own. For example, in this chart, it gives Jason Aldean's previous album (Night Train) first week sales as being 409,000, however its own building chart that week gave the first week sales as 415,155. The 409,000 figure is the SoundScan number. I can give a few other examples. Note that the sales figures in this particular page, although SoundScan figures, are also not used - not because they are unreliable, but because those figures disappear once the album are out so you can't check the figure in the future, and HDD does not allow the page to be cached. The page I cited however is a news item with SoundScan numbers and does not disappear like the other page. Hzh (talk) 11:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Hzh: Alright, I understand. STATic message me! 01:04, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Ariana Grande revert

Hi STATic Vapor,

Can you please tell me why you reverted my edit? I added links to her Facebook and twitter pages. Thanks, Robert4565 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Robert4565: There was a hidden note right there that says not to include her social network sites per WP:ELOFFICIAL. This is because they are easily accessed from her official site. STATic message me! 01:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of DepressedPer -- DepressedPer (talk) 02:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Proposal

There is currently a discussion, you might be interested in, https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Record_charts#Inclusion_of_Amazon.2C_Spotify.2C_iTunes.2C_Beatport_under_digital_charts Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 18:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song)

The article Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of DepressedPer -- DepressedPer (talk) 11:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song)

The article Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Forbidden Fruit (J. Cole song) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of DepressedPer -- DepressedPer (talk) 21:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Image issues from prblematic user

STATic, bro how are you? Long time no chats. I see you are aware of the problematic edits from this user and I recently came across a lot of image related issues from him/her, inspite of locating numerous instances where people have explained WP:NFCC. I warned the user twice, once for uploading unencyclopedic images and the other for removing maintenance template, is there anything else we can do? —Indian:BIO · 09:58, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Hey, yes it has been a long while. If they refuse to abide by the image policies we have there is nothing to do but to report to WP:AIV or WP:ANI. STATic message me! 01:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Double Trouble

IPs or non-admin users are not allow to revert it as on pages for Rihanna's two songs "Russian Roulette (song)" and "What Now (song)". For "Russian Roulette", can you remove invalid source that is a video? And does not says R&B/soul; and "What Now", replace with genre that what composition section says. 183.171.171.130 (talk) 09:36, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I do not at all understand what you are saying. STATic message me! 01:56, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

The Night Runners

Why did you request Deletion of my page The Night Runners?? Did you not look at the references? They are public figures as reported on IMDB, Misplaced Pages, and many more. --Iampixiedust (talk) 22:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

This page should not be deleted because all references have been already previously approved. All references have been well credited from reliable sources such as IMDB, the The X Factor (U.S. season 1) Misplaced Pages page where The Night Runners were then known as "Illusion Confusion" while being on the show. If you google search "Illusion Confusion X Factor" and look at the images you will clearly see that they are now known as The Night Runners and are public figures. No content on this page violates any copyrights. All content is verifiable, and all terms and conditions are met with The Night Runners Misplaced Pages page. This page is credible due to The Night Runners being living public figures in the Entertainment industry, specifically the music industry. I kindly ask that you do not delete this page.

Perhaps you should read A7 in the speedy deletion section as it states: It is irrelevant whether the claim of notability within the article is not sufficient for the notability guidelines. If the claim is credible, the A7 tag can not be applied. Often what seems non-notable to a new page patroller is shown to be notable in a deletion discussion. Meaning just because you may not be familiar with the show "X Factor USA" or "The Night Runners" for that matter, does not grant you the right to request deletion of this page when substantial evidence and references have been cited to discredit your accusation of The Night Runners page being deleted.

Yes I did, none of them are third party reliable sources. Well it is now up for AfD, so the discussion shall decide it. I know what X Factor is, but not even group/singer that makes it to the main show gets an article. They must meet WP:BAND. STATic message me! 04:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Abuse from Koala15 - Run the Jewels - need help

Hi there, I need your help!

I have been watching the activity within the Run the Jewels (album) page and I've noticed that Koala15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Koala15) has been unnecessarily removing other user's contribution to the Run the Jewels album and artists page, despite the contributions being reasonably or well sourced. The recent reasons given by @koala15 for removing other users contribution suggests personal preference. For instance, @koala15 refuses to accept the relevance of non-US labels in relation to the Run the Jewels project. Run the Jewels licensed and released their first album on a non-US label (Big Dada / Ninja Tune), for European release; this information was taken from a valid source. Even El-P of Run the Jewels credits this label with helping to expand its accesibility - see this source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BLnKpEW6pg

Is there a way to report a complaint on this user to Misplaced Pages's admin?

Thanks

@Fasokanesq: Hello, sorry I will not be much help as the page is currently fully protected due to your two's edit war, which you are both lucky for not being blocked for. However on the subject, Template: Infobox album#Label says "only the record label that the album was originally released on should be specified. Where significantly different versions have been released (featuring alternative track listings) e.g. in the US vs UK, the later release date or record label should be mentioned in the article, for example in a Release history section." STATic message me! 04:11, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Recent edits to JGramm Beats

Sup STATicVapor! I recently made a few edits to the article that I had started for JGramm Beats. If you could please review them for me I would greatly appreciated it. Malcolmrevere (talk) 14:44, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

@Malcolmrevere: Out of the references currently in the article, three are considered third-party reliable sources: Complex, Vice and Fact, but out of those three, only the Vice source would be considered significant independent coverage. The other two are only trivial mentions, as the articles are not about JGramm, they only mention him. At this point I think it is a bit WP:TOOSOON for an article on this producer as he is still mostly unknown and reliable sources have not significantly covered him yet. He has yet to meet WP:GNG. STATic message me! 16:26, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

My Everything

You sent me a message on that article, but my account might be hacked, because I don't even know German and did not edit this thing. Thanks, DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 10:22, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Chris Brown's X

Can you add that No Lights will be a Japanese bonus track? http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Chris-Brown_000000000319568/item_X_5535971 (68.58.85.155 (talk) 20:11, 29 August 2014 (UTC))

wrestlemania.

Hi i just want to say thanks for the help but can you add the rumored match for wrestlemania 31 like ttaker vs sting,hogan vs cena,batista vs triple h,and reigns vs lesnar i just want everyone to know so they can at least know what to expect — Preceding unsigned comment added by Undertakerlargestfan (talk • contribs) 14:47, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

@Undertakerlargestfan: Speculation or rumors are not allowed. Do not try to add them, we only put announced matches. STATic message me! 15:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Your Edits

What is your problem? Your edits aren't helping The Angriest Man in Brooklyn. Did you see the movie? In the movie, the characters weren't narrating themselves; the actors playing the characters narrated them like they were a different person. The narration part deserves to be where is was. As well as your edit for Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, "widespread" shouldn't be included because the word was never used in the article, yet you revert these edits with your good faith BS that makes me feel bad. Want to reject these statements? Reply. I'd like to see what comes out of your head onto this section. - Theironminer (talk) 04:23, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Theironminer You have not sourced that and if you see Template: Infobox film it is not proper to include character narrations. As for the inclusion of widespread, if you see the two reliable sources I cited, they both say "widespread critical acclaim". It has always been in the article too. STATic message me! 05:33, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 August newsletter

The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:

1. Godot13 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
2. Casliber (submissions) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
3. Czar (submissions) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
4. Adam Cuerden (submissions) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
5. Cwmhiraeth (submissions) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
6. 12george1 (submissions) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
7. Sturmvogel 66 (submissions), the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
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We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. Matty.007 (submissions), ThaddeusB (submissions), WikiRedactor (submissions), Figureskatingfan (submissions), Yellow Evan (submissions), Prism (submissions) and Cloudz679 (submissions) have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk · contribs) The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Apology

Hi Static I would like to apologize for my bad behavior yesterday creating the talk page Kasirap I will refrain from creating such pages in the future.

Again I would like to appeal to you remove the tag which is on Npk Twice as it states it is in consideration for deletion.

And also please assist me in making the Npk Twice better and to meet every criteria for a wikipedia article of a biography of a living person.

My aim by creating this account was to help bring fourth articles which are reliable from South Africa and other parts of Africa as I am also an Entertainment Magazine editor this side.

Hope you will find it in you to assist and take my apology.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasirap (talk • contribs) 17:54, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Kes Tokyo (rapper)

hi,i want to know what's wrong with the what's wrong with the Kes Tokyo (rapper) page that you keep placing deletion tags on it Spexj (talk) 19:06, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

@Spexj: (talk page stalker) You might want to read the deletion tag, which explains why the page has been tagged. The subject the article describes lacks notability. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 19:12, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The Kes Tokyo article was deleted previously. Evidence is here The user simply added a dab and created the page under a new name. Maybe he/she thought they could beat the system. @Spexj: I just checked the web and Kes Tokyo isn't a notable artist. He fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Not everyone can have a Misplaced Pages page. Versace1608 (Talk) 19:19, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

lol seems like everyone is against the page,to be honest I don't know why. what do you mean the artist is not notable? you might want to Google him again. what does notable mean to you?

Spexj (talk) 19:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you two for the responses while I was out. As for Spexj I will be reporting you as a sockpuppet of User: Mhbent. STATic message me! 01:56, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

#Curious

Hey STATIC, what's up? I would like to ask you a question but probably this is not the right place to ask it. Anyway i'm asking because i'm really curious :D Can you please tell me who is rapping in this song in this song from 2:52? Thanks in advance bro! --Eurofan88 (talk) 20:14, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

@Eurofan88: No problem at all. The rapper at that point is Rich Homie Quan. What I usually do when I am curious in the way you just were, is to look up the song lyrics, as it will usually tell you who is performing what. STATic message me! 02:03, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

G-Unit

It is very clear that Young Buck is resigned with G-Unit. G-unit also just released an EP on G-Unit Records which is why i changed it to 3 albums released. Young Buck is clearly signed as well. There isn't a single source confirmed with anything on their former roster, so why would i have to add one. Take 2 seconds out of your day and google it yourself. It clear news that he is re-signed and G-Unit released a third album. Instead of immediately changing what I just spent time updating, why dont you do some research on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcbedford (talk • contribs) 02:23, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

@Mcbedford: No it is not. He has his own record label, you are just speculating he is signed. Just because he is a part of the group and signed as part of the group, does not mean that he is at all signed as a solo artist. STATic message me! 03:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

AXS

I am just curious about using such sources like AXS for album reviews on articles such as My Everything. I removed the source, but another editor added it back into the article.AdditionSubtraction (talk) 19:52, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

For the Record

Your reverting of this edit was completely wrong. Yes, the IP was a little harsh but he was completely in the right and using language does not necessarily mean he is a vandal. If you had done even the smallest amount of research (ie. Just looking at the wrestler's Misplaced Pages page) you would see that The Ultimate Warrior's birth name is indeed James Hellwig and not Warrior (or, you could have just used common sense). I suggest that in the future you exercise some restraint with your itchy revert finger and make sure you aren't re-adding factual inaccuracies. -- Scorpion 20:17, 2 September 2014 (UTC)