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ANI

I want to thank you for your helpful advice you offered me in a July 24 ANI discussion. It is easy to get lost in all these noticeboards that say "this noticeboard cannot resolve your problem, try the other one" which possibly leads to another board twice that ineffective. I wonder if anyone does that for a living? Sincerely, ItsAlwaysLupus (talk) 00:46, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think all of the noticeboards need a facelift and a new user-friendly algorithm for traversing the maze. It just doesn't work for most editors in the current form. So, I'm clearly in your corner. Viriditas (talk) 01:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

This is a no-brainer. I would virtually welcome any change that involves better usability of Misplaced Pages and the entire elimination of a bureaucratic aspect here that seriously slows down the user experience. I think Misplaced Pages takes itself too much seriously which hurts the overall image of the project and of course has an impact on the number of its fanbase (or userbase if you will). ItsAlwaysLupus (talk) 23:46, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Getty Kouros

Hi. In writing the article I relied heavily of the Getty Kouros Colloquium Report. I still have my copy, so if you would like to indicate what needs referencing I'd be happy to try and help. It should be said that there isn't very much literature on the subject. Twospoonfuls (εἰπέ μοι) 09:37, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

@Twospoonfuls: almost half of the article lacks inline citations. In order for me to pass it (or any other reviewer for that matter), it would require inline citations for most of the article. The reason I contacted you is because I was hoping you could add inline citations, nominate it for GA, and then perhaps myself or another editor could review it. Viriditas (talk) 10:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Paul Conrad

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Fascism or anarchy?

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Regarding this, might be easier for the community to influence the WMF board. By my reckoning we can vote in five seats and four more are appointed by the board themselves. --NeilN 07:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm tempted to reply with a quote from Emma Goldman, but I won't. :) Since you clearly know more about this than I do, may I ask, what is the problem with the board now, and why isn't the community influencing them at present? Viriditas (talk) 09:36, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Probably because voter turnout is so low (I didn't vote, did you?), board members from the community seem to be more of the administrative type rather than the editor type. Imagine if we could get a couple of active editors on there? --NeilN 16:36, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014

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Translation

The sandbox‘s Talk page seems otherwise occupied, so I thought this the next best place to leave a note: I’m getting a bit of cognitive dissonance from the second third passage. If the thesis is that the stele is about a metaphorical game, and contrary to prevailing opinion, it would seem to make more sense to say “More than (about) flowers … More than (about) Demeter & Kore.“ But in that case I would expect the French to read Plus que … rather than Plus de …. OTOH the style is somewhat elliptical, and it’s possible a sophisticated native speaker would read it that way regardless. (Or it may be an idiom of which I‘m unaware.) There may be further discussion in the review that clarifies the intent here.—Odysseus1479 23:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I think you're right. The author of the book seems to be adding an interpretation that succeeds the original one, that initially pointed to the women as goddesses rather than mortals. Viriditas (talk) 23:37, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I‘m beginning to be concerned that the quantity of copy-pasted material (and close translation thereof) may be stretching the boundaries of fair use. Do you think we should continue off-wiki? Feel free to e-mail me to discuss options, if you like.—Odysseus1479 04:44, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure. Can I send you the original the pdf? Viriditas (talk) 08:20, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

That would be great. I‘ve just applied at the Library for JSTOR access, but don’t know whether I qualify or how long it will take.—Odysseus1479 09:53, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, regarding your question in bold, I don’t think so: the passage immediately below says essentially that Hampe’s explanation raises more questions than it answers; the introductory disclaimer suggests to me the foundation for an Occam‘s-razor heuristic. Afterwards the focus turns to the evidence for the dominant view, a positive counter-argument to follow the negative one.—Odysseus1479 07:38, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

That makes sense. However, if you review the original pdf, you'll notice right away why I thought it was a quote. In any case, it sounds like you are able to identify Hampe's original argument as it appears in the book, and Picard's criticism from the review. This is exactly what I want to add to The Exaltation of the Flower article. If you are interested in having a go at it after you've read the entire review, please have at it. Viriditas (talk) 08:20, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Your VPT comments

Hi Viriditas. I can see that you are annoyed about the Reflinks/Toolserver issue and the wider software development situation at the WMF. But sarcastic comments like these and less-than-civil comments like these are not helping. If anything, comments like those are going to make WMF staffers a lot less likely to want to read VPT. On a scale of one to ten of comments that will get the WMF to actually change anything, I wouldn't rate those comments higher than a two. — Mr. Stradivarius 10:22, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I present to you Exhibit A. — Mr. Stradivarius 17:05, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Albinia

Just in case you're not following at the ref desk, I thought I'd let you know I updated Albinia Cust Wherry's ancestor chart. We have another article on one of her ancestors, Sarah Trimmer. - Nunh-huh 21:00, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm thinking of creating a bio, but not much to go on at this point. Viriditas (talk) 21:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

@Nunh-huh: can you take a look at User:Viriditas/Albinia Wherry and make any additions? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 03:09, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

At the moment, I can only think of using the standard ahnentafel template rather than the fan chart, so there can be clickable links. I've changed it, but you of course can change it back if you want. But I regret I don't have any additional biographical detail to add. Beatrix Albinia Wherry, her daughter, married Richard William Oldfield in 1914, and they had two daughters, Albinia and Pandora, but that probably doesn't belong in Albinia Cust Wherry's article. - Nunh-huh 04:03, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Siduri

The quote was in a jpg which was copyvio and later deleted. See Talk:Siduri. Dougweller (talk) 05:50, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Maup Caransa, but we cannot accept original research. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You turned Dutch "de kampen" into "Nazi concentration camps" without supplying a reference for your change. Not OK. Drmies (talk) 03:16, 7 September 2014 (UTC)