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Proposed deletion of Jeremy Garrett

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. — Mr. Stradivarius 04:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Jeremy Garrett

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It is highly suspect that any amount of editing and sourcing to meet the requirements in WP:ALIVE and WP:VERIFY can make this article's subject meet WP:NOTABILITY or WP:BIO guidelines, as this person has not made any truly significant contributions of note, lacks major recognition, and is not otherwise regarded as important in their field, as outlined specifically in WP:ENTERTAINER. This article should be considered for merging or deletion as it meets numerous criteria defined by WP:DEL-REASON, WP:BLP-PROD and WP:SPEEDY rule #A7. Besieged (talk) 22:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

• Delete. Fails WP:ENTERTAINER. Qworty (talk) 23:12, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
• Delete. no evidence of notability. Staszek Lem (talk) 01:08, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
• I tagged the article. I just did copyedit per the Guild of Copy Editors. I was the editor who brought the notibility issues to the attention to the Misplaced Pages communitty. Geraldshields11 (talk) 11:36, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment Indeed, thank you, Gerald. It was your notices that caused me to drill in further to the subject in question and come to the conclusion that this article is probably a good candidate for deletion. Your editing work and attention to detail are highly appreciated, in any event, I just wanted to to be sure no one who was involved heavily in this article would miss their opportunity to comment or vote. Besieged (talk) 19:28, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:15, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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Comprehensive filmographies

Is there any consensus on how comprehensive an actor's filmography should be? For actors with long careers, this could create very large tables which would seem to do little more than repeat imdb. If we do decide to trim them down to something more manageable, how can we best decide what to include? If there is already a policy on this, please feel free to point me towards it. Thank you in advance.Euchrid (talk) 23:17, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't remember if there ever was a firm consensus one way or the other. I do know that many actor article with lengthy filmographies get spun of into their own list style article. Boris Karloff filmography is but one example. I am sure that other editors (like @Erik:)will be able to fill in the gaps of my faulty memory for you. MarnetteD|Talk 23:37, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

My advice would be to look at the Featured Articles and Featured Lists here: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Actors_and_Filmmakers#Articles. As Marnette says, lengthy/full lists are often spun out into their own articles (as with Charlie Chaplin, whose biography article and Filmography List article are both FA class). Since as you note, for most American actors at least, IMDB has a comprehensive listing of their filmography, there is actually no pressing need to present their entire filmography; a "Selected Filmography" of their major film and possibly TV roles could be used. It really depends on how lengthy/complete the article aspires to be (for a short article, a lengthy full filmography seems de trop) and also how significant the roles are. Other things to bear in mind are: (1) Many non-American actors' filmographies are incomplete on IMDB, especially if the actor is a minor one or no longer alive. For instance, for British actors, BFI is often a more complete source, or a source to combine with IMDB. (2) Many actors also have a great deal of theater work -- so the question is, how complete are you going to be on that? In many cases it seems wise to use "Selected" for each of them: screen & stage. Softlavender (talk) 00:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Aashish Mehrotra Biography

I tried to move the article Aashish Mehrotra Biography to Aashish Mehrotra as this would then conform to the naming of bio articles. Instead, I got the message "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason: You cannot move a page to this location because the new title has been protected from creation". Any known issue here? I don't believe that the "Aashish Mehrotra" page exists, but I may be wrong. Folks at 137 (talk) 21:03, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Discussion of Rupesh Paul (Productions Limited)

Contributors to this WikiProject are invited to comment at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Film#Rupesh Paul (Productions Limited). Cnilep (talk) 01:45, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ute Werner

The article Ute Werner has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Subject does not appear to be notable per WP:NACTOR; no significant coverage found from multiple reliable sources. Most cited sources talk about the movie Opie Gets Laid, and not about the subject of the article. The closest there appears to be significant is this 14 paragraph interview here, and its primary subject is on modelling and not the subject of this article herself.

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Vera Vanguard

I'd appreciate uninvolved editors commenting on whether this actress is notable. The creator has confused a web series with a tv series (fixed), and the best I can find about B.O.G.E. seems to be which doesn't make a lot of sense. @Bearian: @Softlavender: @RightCowLeftCoast:. Dougweller (talk) 14:19, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Normally I would opine when pinged, but in this case I am not able to because I'm not a horror fan (I loathe it) and the actress seems to have somewhat of a specialty in that genre. The horror film genre has its own specialization and its own subculture and its own notable/reliable sources & sites, which I am not aware of and am not able to judge one way or another because of lack of knowledge. I suggest involving some editors familiar with that genre. I applaud your decision to seek outside opinions in a case where you have had some previous dealings with the editor who created the article. Just as an aside, based on what I'm able to determine from the article, I do not personally believe the actress meets either WP:GNG or WP:ENT. Hope that helps. Softlavender (talk) 22:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Vera Vanguard was fourth-billed on a web series, B.O.G.E., and had a small part in the YouTube series, Goth Girl. Until consensus changes, web series and even YouTubers are not accorded the same value as cable or broadcast TV. Her Imdb page does not offer much more information. I'm afraid that it would be deleted speedily if re-created without more credits or media. Bearian (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment

I don't know what other editor experience is of this individual but he's unwelcome in this project. When I founded this project it was supposed to attract members who work together in a spirit of collaboration. He exists on wikipedia purely to troll the work of others and add quote farms. Light show, I'm asking you to take your name down and disassociate yourself with this group, it's embarrassing that you've even got the project user tag on your user page which I created.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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