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Talk Page for Worldedixor
This is my opinion on MY Talk page. By reading my Talk page, you must agree NOT to use any of my opinions against me nor "assume that you know my intent". Otherwise please do not "read" my talk page.
Reset
Forgive the long post. It is not like me.
You may be right! Really! And I can see that you are pretty upset. You must be feeling tremendous stress and frustration over this, and I'll bet it is going round and round your head even off-Misplaced Pages. In my personal life, I find that compartmentalizing is the best stress relief. So, I have a suggestion.
I have been reading a lot about your concerns. Keep in mind that I am trying to help you and not gang up on you. Misplaced Pages does not want to lose you. And I do not want to see your frustration spill over to other, good faith editors, and lose them.
My suggestion
I suggest, from this moment, splitting the whole thing in two -- the past and present.
Before this moment: First, take everything in the past and decide what to do with it. Take action in the right forum. Bring it to AN/I if you like. If you want to be heard there: short and to the point. A concise few sentences: 100 readers. A wall of text: 2 readers and 0 users will get involved because they know they will get dragged into a quagmire of billions of paragraphs.
Get rid of all this stuff on your talk page! Move the viewpoints about Misplaced Pages to your userpage. Definitely get rid of the stuff that names specific users. That may come back to bite you. It totally kicks the legs out from under your cause. They will say: "How can you be righteous, and how can we take your side, when you are breaching WP:POLEMIC?"
After this moment: We have both been here long enough to know how reluctant others are to take up a cause when the history is convoluted. Clarity can be the solution to getting you heard. Right now, reset. Like resetting an experiment. You behave perfectly, and expect others to as well. The benefit? From this moment on, if you are done wrong by, then nobody has to dig into a long history with lots of text to figure out who is right. Light will clearly shine, and the culprits will be exposed.
(Concise) thoughts? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:18, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- My sincere thanks to you, Admin Anna. I brought up a chronic problem on WP that is making editors just leave, and did so in the best interest of WP. I did not. I reduced my contributions but I also spoke out. I will stand up for what is right even when I am standing alone. I appreciate your kind advice and will contemplate it. Worldedixor (talk) 23:28, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- A respectful correction to your wrong assumption made in good faith: "You must be feeling tremendous stress and frustration over this, and I'll bet it is going round and round your head even off-Misplaced Pages.". I am not stressed at all. I live a very enjoyable and happy life. This matter frustrates me a bit as I would like to see EQUALITY and JUSTICE on WP and everywhere I can make a difference. But if I see that I am beating a dead horse, I will just join the thousands of competent editors who have opted out of WP. My hope is that my speaking out will help make WP and the world a better place after I'm gone. Worldedixor (talk) 23:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- My sincere thanks to you, Admin Anna. I brought up a chronic problem on WP that is making editors just leave, and did so in the best interest of WP. I did not. I reduced my contributions but I also spoke out. I will stand up for what is right even when I am standing alone. I appreciate your kind advice and will contemplate it. Worldedixor (talk) 23:28, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- I am genuinely pleased that you are not stressed over this.
- A competent editor leaving because the dead horse would not get up? Who thinks a competent editor should be so powerful? Who says a horse should notice us ants? And this is not a dead horse. This is a living, breathing, planet-size, insane asylum. We do our part and hopefully it butterfly effects its way around. Directly trying to change how all these users do things is like herding cats. I just try to take a snapshot of the product as it is right now as say "It is a pretty good encyclopedia, somehow."
- So, could not change it and left? Ha!!!! Try, can not change it by myself, right now, so will influence things in a reasonable way, keeping the viewpoints on my userpage (not the talk page as that is a pretty strange place for it), and carry on building the encyclopedia. Dandy!
- I hate the incivility and swearing. But, I think I have had an influence on the community by being friendly and nice. Staying and continuing is the best way to help, I think.Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
- WOW, Anna. In a few words, you earned the respect and admiration that I reserve for non-toxic admins who personify what a WP admin should be, and that tremendously helps "retain" competent editors rather than removing their joy of editing WP. Another admin with no bias that I genuinely admire is m.o.p. who apparently has enormously reduced his contributions and wish to know what happened. It is my strong opinion that if Dougweller, ATG and their pals learn from you and perhaps copy your non-bias, civility and become role models as required by WP rules, WP will benefit enormously and there would be a lot less need for WP:ANI and lawsuits in Superior courts can be eliminated. Now, I will gladly follow your advice and place my "WP continuous improvement" facts on my user page. Thanks again. Worldedixor (talk) 00:31, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
- I am so happy that everything is heading in the right direction now. I don't know why Master of Puppets hasn't edited since May 6. Maybe he joined the Stone Erosion Enthusiasts Club and they're having a "granite watch". Those can really drag on. :) Thanks, by the way, for moving all of that content to your userpage. (There is still a bit of Dougweller mixed in that you might have missed.) It really is encouraging to know that you are staying. If you ever get worn out by editing hot articles, do what I do and write about some species or glacier or something. It is like a holiday into nature from the mad city. So, my friend, if there is anything you ever need, please ask. Best wishes. :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:20, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
- WOW, Anna. In a few words, you earned the respect and admiration that I reserve for non-toxic admins who personify what a WP admin should be, and that tremendously helps "retain" competent editors rather than removing their joy of editing WP. Another admin with no bias that I genuinely admire is m.o.p. who apparently has enormously reduced his contributions and wish to know what happened. It is my strong opinion that if Dougweller, ATG and their pals learn from you and perhaps copy your non-bias, civility and become role models as required by WP rules, WP will benefit enormously and there would be a lot less need for WP:ANI and lawsuits in Superior courts can be eliminated. Now, I will gladly follow your advice and place my "WP continuous improvement" facts on my user page. Thanks again. Worldedixor (talk) 00:31, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
RfD discussion of Islamic State
- Because you have participated in the move discussion at Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, you are being notified of the RfD discussion at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 September 7#Islamic State. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- "Al Shams" is Arabic for "The Levant." It includes Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Hatay and other parts of Southern TurkeyEricl (talk) 23:22, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
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