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	Whether or not to include on the Clarence page is debatable, but there is no reason to not include it here. The discussion at BLP involved 2 editors, so it does not count as a consensus. ] says to '''consider''' not including info unless they're convicted. It does not say to not include it. Even if it turns out to not be true, it is still notable because it is the reason why he was fired. The article says "allegedly". It does not say that it is true. ] (]) 00:29, 11 September 2014 (UTC)		Whether or not to include on the Clarence page is debatable, but there is no reason to not include it here. The discussion at BLP involved 2 editors, so it does not count as a consensus. ] says to '''consider''' not including info unless they're convicted. It does not say to not include it. Even if it turns out to not be true, it is still notable because it is the reason why he was fired. The article says "allegedly". It does not say that it is true. ] (]) 00:29, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
			: Take a look at ] for me. Allegedly is covered under BLPcrime as well. {{tq\|For relatively unknown people, editors must seriously consider not including material in any article suggesting that the person has committed, or '''is accused of committing,''' a crime unless a conviction is secured.}} Really, the only important thing is that he's fired. We can't cast aspersions of accuse somebody of 'allegedly' doing a crime due to BLP. Imagine if we did that. "X allegedly robbed a bank" or 'Y allegedly raped a girl'. It's just messy and we should err on the side of caution. ] (]) 15:17, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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The fiasco leading to Page being fired

I think it's noteworthy enough to mention on the page. 24.110.21.168 (talk) 03:35, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Agree: Yeah, I think that it was mentioned but removed. That fact should surely be included in the article. - Phill24th (talk). 21:42, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll repeat the comment in the edit box:

Any mention of the allegations raised against Page cannot be included until a successful conviction against him has been secured and reported by reliable sources, per policy.
Please see the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive203#Skylor_Page_at_Clarence_.282014_TV_series.29.E2.80.8E
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Persons_accused_of_crime
Thank you.

23W 22:03, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Further discussion has also been raised here; might want to read it too: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Clarence_%282014_TV_series%29#Skyler_Page_Sexual_Harassment

23W 22:05, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Whether or not to include on the Clarence page is debatable, but there is no reason to not include it here. The discussion at BLP involved 2 editors, so it does not count as a consensus. WP:BLP says to consider not including info unless they're convicted. It does not say to not include it. Even if it turns out to not be true, it is still notable because it is the reason why he was fired. The article says "allegedly". It does not say that it is true. JDDJS (talk) 00:29, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:BLPCRIME for me. Allegedly is covered under BLPcrime as well. For relatively unknown people, editors must seriously consider not including material in any article suggesting that the person has committed, or is accused of committing, a crime unless a conviction is secured. Really, the only important thing is that he's fired. We can't cast aspersions of accuse somebody of 'allegedly' doing a crime due to BLP. Imagine if we did that. "X allegedly robbed a bank" or 'Y allegedly raped a girl'. It's just messy and we should err on the side of caution. Tutelary (talk) 15:17, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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