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	I thank all the editors who have offered support to me on this ] rights drama, whether above or via email. And you as well, ], for my WP:Rollback rights restoration. I was considering taking a longer break from Misplaced Pages, but it's best that I go ahead and respond now, not only so that everyone knows that I'm okay and that there's no need to continue to stroke my ego, LOL, but also so that I go ahead and get back to Misplaced Pages work and put this drama behind me...for the record. '''I am not looking to be a ], and, because I knew that I would likely return to this site, I did not put ] on my user page and user talk page after stating in the WP:Rollback rights ] case that "now I'm out of here."''' I knew that I needed a break from Misplaced Pages to calm down and to better process everything. And that, in case I didn't return, I should go ahead and clear my user page and user talk page. Because I, like a lot of other veteran Misplaced Pages editors (whether good editors, bad editors such as ], or something in between), can't seem to leave this site forever, I have now put ] at the top of my user page and talk page. I saw it on ]'s user page during ], and decided to steal it.		I thank all the editors who have offered support to me on this ] rights drama, whether above or via email. And you as well, ], for my WP:Rollback rights restoration. I was considering taking a longer break from Misplaced Pages, but it's best that I go ahead and respond now, not only so that everyone knows that I'm okay and that there's no need to continue to stroke my ego, LOL, but also so that I go ahead and get back to Misplaced Pages work and put this drama behind me...for the record. '''I am not looking to be a ], and, because I knew that I would likely return to this site, I did not put ] on my user page and user talk page after stating in the WP:Rollback rights ] case that "now I'm out of here."''' I knew that I needed a break from Misplaced Pages to calm down and to better process everything. And that, in case I didn't return, I should go ahead and clear my user page and user talk page. Because I, like a lot of other veteran Misplaced Pages editors (whether good editors, bad editors such as ], or something in between), can't seem to leave this site forever, I have now put ] at the top of my user page and talk page. I saw it on ]'s user page during ], and decided to steal it.

	Like I've told fellow Misplaced Pages editors via email, this WP:Rollback rights matter made me reevaluate some of my approaches to the way that I edit Misplaced Pages, and that I should dial it back in some cases or at least return to the softer Flyer22 that I was at one point. Misplaced Pages hardened me, made me more cynical and a variety of other things, but I need to stop being such a bitch at this place (a sometimes-persona that contrasts how I am in non-Misplaced Pages life, or what some refer to as "]"). As mentioned by others above, I deal with a lot of contentious topics on Misplaced Pages and various ]-pushers, including those who engage in ], whether they are aware of it or not, and it has taken its toll. My mindset changed to where I figured that I have to be harder and colder in this Misplaced Pages environment, dealing with the ~~type~~ of topics and issues that I deal with. Others have mentioned that a person has to have a thick skin to edit Misplaced Pages, at least if you edit contentious topics, and I feel that's true. Add that on to the fact that I battle depression, which I've been open about on my user talk page, as recently as ] (excuse the heading and main topic of that discussion), and it's certainly often not easy for me to edit here. Finding the right balance with all of that can be difficult. So unlike what ] thought, a thought which compelled him to add to ], it's not simply about "losing a flag." One might say, "Well, how about you edit non-contentious topics?" My response to that is that any topic can be contentious at some point, and that my areas of expertise on Misplaced Pages are the more contentious topics (sexual topics, medical topics, and anatomy topics). I am well-versed in science topics as well, and occasionally edit purely scientific topics, but I ] that there are some things that I don't want to make into "work for Misplaced Pages." And as for soap operas, while I used to mainly edit in that area, I no longer mainly edit in that area, and my knowledge regarding all of that is more confined to certain American soap operas.		Like I've told fellow Misplaced Pages editors via email, this WP:Rollback rights matter made me reevaluate some of my approaches to the way that I edit Misplaced Pages, and that I should dial it back in some cases or at least return to the softer Flyer22 that I was at one point. Misplaced Pages hardened me, made me more cynical and a variety of other things, but I need to stop being such a bitch at this place (a sometimes-persona that contrasts how I am in non-Misplaced Pages life, or what some refer to as "]"). As mentioned by others above, I deal with a lot of contentious topics on Misplaced Pages and various ]-pushers, including those who engage in ], whether they are aware of it or not, and it has taken its toll. My mindset changed to where I figured that I have to be harder and colder in this Misplaced Pages environment, dealing with the types of topics and issues that I deal with. Others have mentioned that a person has to have a thick skin to edit Misplaced Pages, at least if you edit contentious topics, and I feel that's true. Add that on to the fact that I battle depression, which I've been open about on my user talk page, as recently as ] (excuse the heading and main topic of that discussion), and it's certainly often not easy for me to edit here. Finding the right balance with all of that can be difficult. So unlike what ] thought, a thought which compelled him to add to ], it's not simply about "losing a flag." One might say, "Well, how about you edit non-contentious topics?" My response to that is that any topic can be contentious at some point, and that my areas of expertise on Misplaced Pages are the more contentious topics (sexual topics, medical topics, and anatomy topics). I am well-versed in science topics as well, and occasionally edit purely scientific topics, but I ] that there are some things that I don't want to make into "work for Misplaced Pages." And as for soap operas, while I used to mainly edit in that area, I no longer mainly edit in that area, and my knowledge regarding all of that is more confined to certain American soap operas.

	As for being able to take criticism and engaging with ], those who have watched my user talk page for months or years know that I am open to criticism. If I was not, the comment at the top of my user talk page about being open to compliments or criticism would ~~not~~ not have been there (and would not be there now). There is a difference between being open to criticism and not agreeing with it, especially if one find's the criticism to be faulty or misplaced. I have made mistakes with the vandalism tools (which, again, are not only for reverting vandalism); I know that and have acknowledged it times before on Misplaced Pages. I'm certain that every other ] has also made mistakes with the tools. I know the importance of not biting the newbies. But as was made clear before (]), reverting a WP:Newbie is not necessarily biting that WP:Newbie, even if it's a revert without an explanation. In the "User talk:Flyer22/Archive 14#Please don't bite the newbies" discussion, editors address how it can be less than sensible to expect WP:Patrollers to leave a manual message for each ] but unconstructive edit that we revert. We are using tools when we WP:Patrol because it is quicker and more efficient. We can revert a lot more problematic edits with these tools than without them. A major difference between WP:Rollback by itself and ], a difference that apparently got lost to some people commenting in my WP:Rollback rights thread, is that WP:STiki, unlike WP:Rollback, does leave a ] when reverting. Sure, its WP:Edit summary when reverting a WP:Good-faith edit is not an explicit explanation, but it's an explanation nevertheless. '''Leaving a message when reverting a WP:Good faith edit , and it's that design that I was following.''' If some people have a problem with that design, it can be discussed on the WP:STiki talk page. That stated, I will do better when reverting problematic edits, including more often considering to leave an edit summary for a WP:Good-faith edit. I might switch over to ] to do that, which gives more options. But as for blanking, I will continue to revert that as WP:Vandalism if it looks like WP:Vandalism; this is per ].		As for being able to take criticism and engaging with ], those who have watched my user talk page for months or years know that I am open to criticism. If I was not, the comment at the top of my user talk page about being open to compliments or criticism would not have been there (and would not be there now). There is a difference between being open to criticism and not agreeing with it, especially if one find's the criticism to be faulty or misplaced. I have made mistakes with the vandalism tools (which, again, are not only for reverting vandalism); I know that and have acknowledged it times before on Misplaced Pages. I'm certain that every other ] has also made mistakes with the tools. I know the importance of not biting the newbies. But as was made clear before (]), reverting a WP:Newbie is not necessarily biting that WP:Newbie, even if it's a revert without an explanation. In the "User talk:Flyer22/Archive 14#Please don't bite the newbies" discussion, editors address how it can be less than sensible to expect WP:Patrollers to leave a manual message for each ] but unconstructive edit that we revert. We are using tools when we WP:Patrol because it is quicker and more efficient. We can revert a lot more problematic edits with these tools than without them. A major difference between WP:Rollback by itself and ], a difference that apparently got lost to some people commenting in my WP:Rollback rights thread, is that WP:STiki, unlike WP:Rollback, does leave a ] when reverting. Sure, its WP:Edit summary when reverting a WP:Good-faith edit is not an explicit explanation, but it's an explanation nevertheless. '''Leaving a message when reverting a WP:Good faith edit , and it's that design that I was following.''' If some people have a problem with that design, it can be discussed on the WP:STiki talk page. That stated, I will do better when reverting problematic edits, including more often considering to leave an edit summary for a WP:Good-faith edit. I might switch over to ] to do that, which gives more options. But as for blanking, I will continue to revert that as WP:Vandalism if it looks like WP:Vandalism; this is per ].

	I will also be leaving my user page blank for a while, with the exception of the Template:Can't retire; this will help remind me that I was once a WP:Newbie, and would have been utterly lost on Misplaced Pages without the help of ]. The blanked user page, without my Misplaced Pages achievements, will also help keep me humble. I will restore it eventually; but for now...very humble is the way to go. ] (]) 23:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)		I will also be leaving my user page blank for a while, with the exception of the Template:Can't retire; this will help remind me that I was once a WP:Newbie, and would have been utterly lost on Misplaced Pages without the help of ]. The blanked user page, without my Misplaced Pages achievements, will also help keep me humble. I will restore it eventually; but for now...very humble is the way to go. ] (]) 23:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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CAN'T RETIRE Flyer22 Frozen tried to leave Misplaced Pages, but found that she couldn't do so…

This user may sometimes share an IP address with Halo Jerk1.

Welcome to my talk page. I have been editing Misplaced Pages since 2007. If you want to know more about me, see my user page. My work, like a lot of others, has been complimented and criticized. And in March 2012, I was even blocked. See the block cases. And it's during that first block case that I learned a lot about WP:Assume good faith and who you can count on to be there for you; that experience has made me more acrimonious towards Misplaced Pages, and this feeling was intensified with my second block case (again, refer to the block cases link). Still, I believe that it's best that I help this site, seeing as many people come here for information (Misplaced Pages is almost always ranking highest in search engines, and that type of thing is always going to bring in a lot of readers) and a lot of those people trust what they read here. So it's my job to make sure that any topic I am heavily editing is as accurate as possible.

Especially see User:Flyer22#Main type of editing style for why what you consider neutral, or what you consider needed with regard to images, likely differs from my view; don't know about you, but I'm following Misplaced Pages policies and/or guidelines in that regard. Any questions, compliments or criticism of my Misplaced Pages work, feel free to leave me a message here on my talk page or email me. If you leave me a message here, I will usually reply here.

I do hope you'll read this...

Leaving over the loss of a flag would just be silly. Let's take what's happened at AN/I as a learning experience and look at the overall picture. Very few of your 149,000+ edits required the use of that flag. Rollback doesn't define you as an editor - your edits do, and those are much much more important. Please reconsider? Dusti 02:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Sad to see you go...

For what it's worth I think that incident could not have been handled more poorly and am 100% in favor of you receiving your flag back if you should decide to return. —Frosty ☃ 04:57, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Sadly, it's just another example of admin overreach. Flyer22 did not misuse the rollback tool, but ProtonK removed it anyway. What did s/he think would happen when a provocative action like that is taken? There was no reason to remove the tool, and I can completely understand Flyer22's frustration (and even retirement) with the fact that another editor was allowed to simply remove the tool without any real evidence of misuse. Until admins realize that they're just regular editors with a few extra buttons, and not Team Misplaced Pages Project Police, good editors will continue to leave the project. LHM 03:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- It was a mistake but did look like a misuse from the reaction. There was no overreach here. Both parries did what they thought was right.--Mark Miller (talk) 11:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
  There was plenty of admin overreach in this circumstance, as well as many others. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish on this page. LHM 14:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Message

Regardless of your ultimate decision, I wanted to let you know you are one of the best editors I've encountered here. You've always been kind to me, mentoring me as I learned, and an invaluable resource for all sexuality-related pages. I do hope you return, but if not, I wish you all the best. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 05:09, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I watch several sexuality-related pages for vandalism and I have seen your valuable edits to them, which doubtless greatly increased their quality. I almost always learn something new when I see your edits. I hope that you eventually return. Best wishes, BethNaught (talk) 11:08, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I am sad to see you leave. You are one of the most valuable people on this project. With the many amazing things you have done for wikipedia. To only get a double slap in the face of two administrators. For the reason I do not like your style and attitude with me. So I will slap you. Why? Because I can. Instead of thinking hey this an editor with over 150k edits, 7 years of experience, and held in high regard by the community. maybe we should talk this through a bit more and in the end maybe even agree to disagree. I might leave as well if admins can do this without consequences. NathanWubs (talk) 13:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

(ec) Very sad to see you go. I wish I arrived in time to comment in the AN/I thread. Thank you so much for your hard work and your help, Flyer22. There's some rich irony in the AN/I discussion; we must be extra nice to newbies but apparently our established editors with 150,000 contributions get a whole nother kind of treatment. Who will take up the slack and keep an eye on sexuality-related pages now that you're gone? --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 14:03, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Your rollback rights have been restored

Good news:

05:27, September 21, 2014 Euryalus (talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:Flyer22 from pending changes reviewer to pending changes reviewer and rollbacker (Per consensus at AN/I thread.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Log/rights

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=626436494#Proposal_that_User:Protonk.27s_removal_of_my_.28Flyer22.27s.29_WP:Rollback_rights_be_overturned

Congrats! -- Brangifer (talk) 05:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

It certainly reminded me of sledgehammers and nuts. -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 05:47, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

This was certainly an overreaction of the heavy handed type. There was no attempt to AGF and err on the side of mercy. It's good that reason won out in the end. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

And it has apparently cost the project a good editor. Yet nothing at all will be done to rein in admin's like Protonk who take such hasty actions. And I'm still very interested in what caused Protonk to audit Flyer22's use of rollbacker to begin with. LHM 05:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Came here to provide a notification, but others beat me to it. Closing comments are here and happy to discuss if required. Euryalus (talk) 05:56, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Yah! Now you can get back to what you're best at: editing important articles and educating the rest of us about policy. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 06:04, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Glad to see this was seen as just the mistake it was. I feel slightly awkward that I was used as the catalyst for this. Can't say you were completely without fault...nor should anyone as you did call a legitimate edit, proven to be accurate, vandalism. But it isn't as if other, even in administration, don't take leaps with our policies. I actually do assume good faith an trust you honestly felt that was vandalism. But I want to at least caution you that vandalism as an accusation hurts those that are wrongly accused...as much as it must have hurt you to have the rollback riht removed. But I also temper that with my knowledge of your outstanding work. Happy editing!--Mark Miller (talk) 11:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

It occurs to me—not for the first time—that if Misplaced Pages paid half as much attention to the way it treats its regulars as the way it treats its newbies, this place would be way happier and a lot more productive. We bend over backwards to be gentle and forgiving to new users, and that's all well and good up to a point, although we sometimes go to such extremes in that regard that articles suffer and patience is exhausted. At the other end of the spectrum, we have administrators and other "power users" who are so entrenched that they can behave abominably with impunity, and they often do. Between these poles resides a vast body of editors who try hard to do the right thing and usually succeed but are nonetheless subject to the most shocking mistreatment when the slightest error is perceived. Whether the error is actually an error doesn't even matter; the allegation is enough. Consider wolves or wild dogs: once the first drop of blood is spilled, the whole pack leaps into action and goes in for the kill. If, by some miracle, the Wikipedian in question survives the onslaught (like, for instance, because she was innocent), her attackers don't forget. They stand ready to pounce, hoping for better luck the next time, and chances are they'll succeed. This phenomenon is woven into the fabric of Misplaced Pages's culture. We abuse our best and our brightest, and by and large we as a community accept that we do this. Whether this state of affairs will be sustainable over the long haul is hard to say. Each year brings a fresh crop of newbies, many of them talented and eager. If they're any good and decide to stick around, they'll soon learn that the honeymoon is brief, the respect accorded to them will quickly evaporate, and neither the quality nor the quantity of their contributions will protect them if a glib wikilawyer with lots of time on his hands takes a dislike to them. Rivertorch's Evil Twin (talk) 14:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Resilient Barnstar
	While it appears that I missed much of what transpired as I do not often look at the drama boards. Hope to see you back to keep up your good work. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!-LHM

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Hate to see such a good content editor leave over an administrator (once again) thinking that their adminship is a badge to police regular editors, rather than just a few extra tools. LHM 15:55, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

We hope that you will return!

After re-logging in recently, I noticed that you had referred to me in a talk page with signzzed (or what ever the user name is), and I am impressed with how you dealt with the situation.

Yeah, the removal of rights was crap, but I hope that you return as you are very important to the community and many people have a lot to learn from your experience.

Best, Jab843 (talk) 19:55, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I second, third and fourth the above message. Your stewardship of various articles is beneficial to the project. OTOH if you need to step away I certainly respect that decision. Best regards to you on WikiP and especially off. MarnetteD|Talk 20:01, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Wishing you well Flyer... The community values the great work you have done and looks forward to your return. Johnuniq (talk) 01:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I sixth the top message and echo the comments of the editors above. This place needs you and will not be the same in your absence. Δρ.Κ. 02:17, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Flyer. Whatever is going on... we need you. I need you. It's a hard-knock world Flyer. And I guess we never get the props we crave in this world and certainly not here. But a lot of people need you and want you here and admire you, so don't go. I was kicked out of the admin corps for (IMO) insufficient reason, and these things happen, and you can't worry about stuff like that too much, you just move on... as I say, it's a hard-knock world. Don't let it get you down Flyer. Herostratus (talk) 10:36, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Between what happened you and Sitush, I've come to the realization this place is run by retards. Whomever compared Misplaced Pages to World of Warcraft couldn't have been more accurate. Getting "got" is the prix fixe three course meal, whereas articles are a cold, wet appetizer. So fuck them. Don't return. They don't deserve you.Two kinds of pork_Bacon 22:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

But we aren't doing this for them. We volunteer here because we believe in the idea of an encyclopedia. Flyer22 and I crossed paths at a few film pages, and she set an example many others could follow. I'm glad to say she even "Thanked" me once. I look forward to seeing her return. (And the longer you wait, Flyer, the more dramatic it will be...) - Gothicfilm (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

We once worked on Frozen (2013 film) together, you remember that? I really miss it, and I really miss you. You are among the most active users on the STiki leaderboard, this encyclopedia and the whole community owe you so much. Please come back, though Misplaced Pages is a voluntary work. It's sad to see so many experienced editors leaving Misplaced Pages for such subtle issues. —ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 09:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	You do great work and Misplaced Pages is much worse off without you. You are appreciated by all those interested in building and encyclopedia! I am One of Many (talk) 05:50, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Thanks for all of your work on Misplaced Pages. It wouldn't be the same without you. Just a note to let you know your presence is appreciated. Viriditas (talk) 23:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

I'll try to keep this short. Flyer22, you are one of a tiny handful of superlative editors I've encountered in my 8+ years here. You are exceptionally perceptive, you have a remarkable capacity to effectively analyze a variety of topics, and you have a superb grasp of at least one extraordinarily complex, confusing, and frequently contentious content area. You also have a thorough understanding of what makes a high-quality article, and you care enough to fight for it, even when confronted by trolls, lunatics, and an unending parade of unscrupulous users seeking to pervert our core ideals in order to further their own personal or professional agendas. Those qualities have stood you in good stead as a content contributor, a vandal fighter, and a contributor to discussions. They also have made you a target—not just of the aforementioned agenda-driven users but also of various editors whose motives or ethics are less noble than your own or whose poor judgment gets in the way of making sound decisions. You're not the first editor to fall prey to their nonsense, and you won't be the last. You are, however, one of the very best. I have no idea whether blanking the pages in your user space is tantamount to posting a "retired" notice, but since various Wikipedians seem to be taking it that way and are imploring you to "return", let me say this much: please consider not only what's best for Misplaced Pages but also what's right for you. Whether you stay or go, I hope you know how much you're appreciated. Rivertorch's Evil Twin (talk) 04:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 August 25#Category:Disney_Princess

You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 August 25#Category:Disney_Princess. Thanks. —ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 09:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)Template:Z48

Thank you to all of the supportive comments above, and supportive emails

I thank all the editors who have offered support to me on this WP:Rollback rights drama, whether above or via email. And you as well, Euryalus, for my WP:Rollback rights restoration. I was considering taking a longer break from Misplaced Pages, but it's best that I go ahead and respond now, not only so that everyone knows that I'm okay and that there's no need to continue to stroke my ego, LOL, but also so that I go ahead and get back to Misplaced Pages work and put this drama behind me...for the record. I am not looking to be a WP:Diva, and, because I knew that I would likely return to this site, I did not put Template:Retired on my user page and user talk page after stating in the WP:Rollback rights WP:ANI case that "now I'm out of here." I knew that I needed a break from Misplaced Pages to calm down and to better process everything. And that, in case I didn't return, I should go ahead and clear my user page and user talk page. Because I, like a lot of other veteran Misplaced Pages editors (whether good editors, bad editors such as WP:Sockpuppets, or something in between), can't seem to leave this site forever, I have now put Template:Can't retire at the top of my user page and talk page. I saw it on Ansh666's user page during this other recent WP:ANI case involving me, and decided to steal it.

Like I've told fellow Misplaced Pages editors via email, this WP:Rollback rights matter made me reevaluate some of my approaches to the way that I edit Misplaced Pages, and that I should dial it back in some cases or at least return to the softer Flyer22 that I was at one point. Misplaced Pages hardened me, made me more cynical and a variety of other things, but I need to stop being such a bitch at this place (a sometimes-persona that contrasts how I am in non-Misplaced Pages life, or what some refer to as "real life"). As mentioned by others above, I deal with a lot of contentious topics on Misplaced Pages and various WP:POV-pushers, including those who engage in WP:Activism, whether they are aware of it or not, and it has taken its toll. My mindset changed to where I figured that I have to be harder and colder in this Misplaced Pages environment, dealing with the types of topics and issues that I deal with. Others have mentioned that a person has to have a thick skin to edit Misplaced Pages, at least if you edit contentious topics, and I feel that's true. Add that on to the fact that I battle depression, which I've been open about on my user talk page, as recently as this discussion (excuse the heading and main topic of that discussion), and it's certainly often not easy for me to edit here. Finding the right balance with all of that can be difficult. So unlike what Dusti thought, a thought which compelled him to add this addition to Misplaced Pages:Here to build an encyclopedia, it's not simply about "losing a flag." One might say, "Well, how about you edit non-contentious topics?" My response to that is that any topic can be contentious at some point, and that my areas of expertise on Misplaced Pages are the more contentious topics (sexual topics, medical topics, and anatomy topics). I am well-versed in science topics as well, and occasionally edit purely scientific topics, but I noted before that there are some things that I don't want to make into "work for Misplaced Pages." And as for soap operas, while I used to mainly edit in that area, I no longer mainly edit in that area, and my knowledge regarding all of that is more confined to certain American soap operas.

As for being able to take criticism and engaging with WP:Newbies, those who have watched my user talk page for months or years know that I am open to criticism. If I was not, the comment at the top of my user talk page about being open to compliments or criticism would not have been there (and would not be there now). There is a difference between being open to criticism and not agreeing with it, especially if one find's the criticism to be faulty or misplaced. I have made mistakes with the vandalism tools (which, again, are not only for reverting vandalism); I know that and have acknowledged it times before on Misplaced Pages. I'm certain that every other WP:Patroller has also made mistakes with the tools. I know the importance of not biting the newbies. But as was made clear before (User talk:Flyer22/Archive 14#Please don't bite the newbies), reverting a WP:Newbie is not necessarily biting that WP:Newbie, even if it's a revert without an explanation. In the "User talk:Flyer22/Archive 14#Please don't bite the newbies" discussion, editors address how it can be less than sensible to expect WP:Patrollers to leave a manual message for each WP:Good faith but unconstructive edit that we revert. We are using tools when we WP:Patrol because it is quicker and more efficient. We can revert a lot more problematic edits with these tools than without them. A major difference between WP:Rollback by itself and WP:STiki, a difference that apparently got lost to some people commenting in my WP:Rollback rights thread, is that WP:STiki, unlike WP:Rollback, does leave a WP:Edit summary when reverting. Sure, its WP:Edit summary when reverting a WP:Good-faith edit is not an explicit explanation, but it's an explanation nevertheless. Leaving a message when reverting a WP:Good faith edit is not a part of the WP:STiki design, and it's that design that I was following. If some people have a problem with that design, it can be discussed on the WP:STiki talk page. That stated, I will do better when reverting problematic edits, including more often considering to leave an edit summary for a WP:Good-faith edit. I might switch over to WP:Huggle to do that, which gives more options. But as for blanking, I will continue to revert that as WP:Vandalism if it looks like WP:Vandalism; this is per WP:VANDTYPES.

I will also be leaving my user page blank for a while, with the exception of the Template:Can't retire; this will help remind me that I was once a WP:Newbie, and would have been utterly lost on Misplaced Pages without the help of Elonka. The blanked user page, without my Misplaced Pages achievements, will also help keep me humble. I will restore it eventually; but for now...very humble is the way to go. Flyer22 (talk) 23:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)